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Telfaahga
06-14-2004, 05:22 AM
Someone mind throwing up a archer training plan and stat placement for an elven warrior. thanks

Drew
06-14-2004, 06:35 AM
strictly archery or will he be using other weapons as well?

Parkbandit
06-14-2004, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by Telfaahga
Someone mind throwing up a archer training plan and stat placement for an elven warrior. thanks

How about this... post your plan and we will look it over. Put forth SOME effort here.

Chadj
06-14-2004, 09:05 AM
lol. Fair enough.

And yes, you might want a second weapon in that.. I do not have a warrior anymore, and havn't had one since 5 months prior GSIV, but isn't having a second weapon standard these days?

Parkbandit
06-14-2004, 09:11 AM
It's so cheap.. I certainly would.

I would train in brawling or two handers as well as ranged.

But that's me. :)

Chadj
06-14-2004, 09:13 AM
That would work pretty well. I would probably use brawling and ranged, so that I could use it as a backup with low RT if I get caught off guard without enough time to set up a cross-bow or what not.

Parkbandit
06-14-2004, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by Chadj
That would work pretty well. I would probably use brawling and ranged, so that I could use it as a backup with low RT if I get caught off guard without enough time to set up a cross-bow or what not.

I don't believe you get any benefit from training in brawling when using ranged weapons any longer... if you do, it's minimal I'm sure.

Most Archery guides for GS4 no longer promote brawling training.

Chadj
06-14-2004, 09:23 AM
Blargh. That blows.

The only two ranged things I got are my rogue and my ranger.. neither of which train in brawling and archery. But I am a bit behind on my ranged information apparently.

Artha
06-14-2004, 09:30 AM
Don't do it as a warrior. Do it as a rogue or a ranger. Trust me.

Parkbandit
06-14-2004, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by Artha
Don't do it as a warrior. Do it as a rogue or a ranger. Trust me.

Absolutely.

You can hide better as a rogue.
You can master gambits which allows movement in hiding as a rogue.
You can use Camo as a ranger.

Artha
06-14-2004, 09:48 AM
Not to mention that you won't be able to hide in heavier armors, stalking and hiding will be more expensive, ambush will be more expensive, and you don't really need redux since you're in hiding all the time.

100% Wool
06-14-2004, 10:03 AM
*ROGUES
- gambits
- stealing
- more dodging
- better hiding
- picking
- can cast 404 or 405,I forgot which one aids in aiming
- can learn ewave, great archer spell

*RANGERS
- some nice ass spells
- 601 * helps with remaining in a hiddin position while sniping
- 603-604 * I THINK it may help with aiming [ not TOO sure on this ]
Things may have changed since I was last an archer
- 606 * takes off 1 rt from your base firing
- 608 * auto hide outdoors +30 AS until you come out of hiding
so you can KEEP firing with +30 AS if you're good at hiding
-613 * self explanitory, and I believe it helps with aiming as well
-619 * great way for crowd control
-640 * GREAT ass fucking spell for an archer

--------

I'm sure I'm missing shit,but yeah. Whatever
No idea why you would want to be a warrior archer unless its for RP reasons, or to fall back on a second weapon

Anebriated
06-14-2004, 12:07 PM
go with a ranger IMHO.

If you want to train in brawling then go VOLN. If you go with a secondary swinging weapon(not suggested) then go COL. If you go the first route i can help you as my ranger is an archer/brawler and is very successful in it.

to add to Barumples list:
-617 * increases crit damage done with Voln Fu
-618 * lets you dodge an incredible amount of attacks as well as aids a great deal in your Voln Fu MB

between my 1x dodging, mobilies and wall of thorns(640) I would say maybe 35% of attacks from a like level creature make it through and actually have a chance to hit me.

Artha
06-14-2004, 12:22 PM
Go with rogues. You'll still respect yourself in the morning.

[Edited on 6-14-2004 by Artha]

Chadj
06-14-2004, 12:24 PM
It depends on how you hunt.

If you hunt like a warrior, walking into a swarm with plate, and comin out with a shit load of minors and a full mind, then go with a rogue. The will be able to take hits a lot better.

But if you are the type that likes to make sure things don't get past your DS check.. Go with ranger. They have a ton of spells, and won't get hit as often.

Artha
06-14-2004, 12:27 PM
...the idea is not to get hit at all. That's why you hide, and stay hidden.

Chadj
06-14-2004, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Artha
...the idea is not to get hit at all. That's why you hide, and stay hidden.

Fair enough.

Parkbandit
06-14-2004, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by Chadj
It depends on how you hunt.

If you hunt like a warrior, walking into a swarm with plate, and comin out with a shit load of minors and a full mind, then go with a rogue. The will be able to take hits a lot better.



LOL... who hunts like that? A smart warrior would simply not attack a huge swarm if he/she knew they would get a shit load of wounds.

Anebriated
06-14-2004, 09:33 PM
This is why I will never have multi fire or any of that crap.


>608
You make a simple motion, quietly invoking the Camouflage spell...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture.
You blend into invisibility among the surroundings.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
H>fire def
You remove a single arrow from a bundle of arrows.
H>
You nock an arrow in your Ardenai long bow.
You fire an arrow at a kiramon defender!
AS: +337 vs DS: +172 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +100 = +288
... and hit for 91 points of damage!
Incredible shot to the eye penetrates deep into skull!
The kiramon defender falls back into a heap and dies.
The arrow sticks in a kiramon defender's right eye!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
HR>
* Edaarin just bit the dust!
HR>fire second def
You remove a single arrow from a bundle of arrows.
H>
You nock an arrow in your Ardenai long bow.
You fire an arrow at a kiramon defender!
AS: +337 vs DS: +122 with AvD: +23 + d100 roll: +62 = +300
... and hit for 105 points of damage!
Awesome shot shatters ribs and punctures lung!
The kiramon defender falls back into a heap and dies.
The arrow sticks in a kiramon defender's chest!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
HR>loot
You come out of hiding.
You search the kiramon defender.
It carried nothing of interest.
A kiramon defender crumbles away into dust.

Trinitis
06-14-2004, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by Chadj
It depends on how you hunt.

If you hunt like a warrior, walking into a swarm with plate, and comin out with a shit load of minors and a full mind, then go with a rogue. The will be able to take hits a lot better.



LOL... who hunts like that? A smart warrior would simply not attack a huge swarm if he/she knew they would get a shit load of wounds.

My barbarian does.. But then again, its in his RP to do so ;)

Celexei
06-15-2004, 10:34 PM
is there anyway to set up a good plan for a ranger/brawler archer with 1x armor, and still be a good skinner?