Bigshot Abandonment

[buzzofthoughts]

I am running bigshot with two characters. It usually works out pretty well, except when my caster is finished hunting, when she is fried or oom, she will occasionally just leave my swinger in a fight and go back to town. My swinger will finish killing the critter she is currently killing, then just stand there and never move, ever. It happens when the swinger is in rt, the caster does not wait for her rt to end and just leaves. My swinger eventually dies because she gets nicked to death. Is there a way to fix this?

[Drunken Durfin]

Every couple that I have know who engaged in swinging ended up separating and eventually getting a divorce. I don't think that there is any hope for you on this.

[Jymamon]

Something about "kill" (which, IIRC, will cause you to automatically swing until the target is dead) seems to confuse bigshot. If you're using some variant of that as your swinger's attack command, try "attack" instead.

[buzzofthoughts]

Every couple that I have know who engaged in swinging ended up separating and eventually getting a divorce. I don't think that there is any hope for you on this.

Yeah, especially when one is a swinger and one is not. Pretty much doomed.


Something about "kill" (which, IIRC, will cause you to automatically swing until the target is dead) seems to confuse bigshot. If you're using some variant of that as your swinger's attack command, try "attack" instead.

She has "attack" as her attack. I am going to try having the swinger as the leader and see if that helps. I really didn't want to do that, because of encumbrance issues, but better a short hunt than a dead bard. Because my caster still has a channel rt, it might still happen, we shall see.

[Gibreficul]

You could always learn to write your own script(s). Just saying... then you'll know why something isn't working properly, and how to fix it if it breaks.


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[Keller]

Don't be afk when you run bigshot so your swinger doesn't die when he is abandoned?

[subzero]

Don't be afk when you run bigshot so your swinger doesn't die when he is abandoned?

BLASPHEMER! BURN, BITCH, BURN!

[Jymamon]

I went poking through bigshot last night to look at something else and I think I know what causes this.

Without going too into , it is a race condition between the leader posting an attack event and the followers responding to it. It is possible to have the leader detect no valid target and the follower(s) detect a target. The leader attempts to wait for the followers to be out of RT, but they can swing again between the detection and the actual move. Result is your followers are still in the attacking loop while the leader is blissfully looking for something better to do.

I've started playing around with a fix, but I'm not content with it yet. I just wanted to post the details in case anyone else wanted to go muck with their local scripts as well.

[Gibreficul]

What I'd do is put one of those loop band aid scripts in play here. If at any point the TAILS are not in the room with the HEAD, retreat.

Kinda funny for me how such a "great" script needs so many damn band aids. SOME PEOPLE think I'm just being a dick when I say, WRITE YOUR OWN, but I'm being brutally honest.

As for you Buzz of thoughtlessness...


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[subzero]

Gump sat alone on a bench in the park

[Jymamon]

What I'd do is put one of those loop band aid scripts in play here. If at any point the TAILS are not in the room with the HEAD, retreat.
Band aids are never appropriate. Fix things or don't fix things. (How Yoda-ish, though I didn't intend it.) "Hacks" are just bad code trying to sound cool.


SOME PEOPLE think I'm just being a dick when I say, WRITE YOUR OWN, but I'm being brutally honest.
I generally agree with the sentiment, but bigshots's design is pretty sound (and I'm too lazy to bother with TK UIs even though they're useful). It just needs a massive cleanup. As for just writing my own... sure I could, be see Fred Brook's (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Fred_Brooks) and planning to throw one away. Re-using someone else's code, at the right times, let's me use that as the "pilot" while learning from what they did right and wrong.

(Hell, I wouldn't've even know about DRB w/o bigshot and most of my code now relies upon the cross-process data sharing it makes possible.)

[TheEschaton]

Man, I should write my own OS every time I complain about Windows crashing. Cause I have that kind of time.

[buzzofthoughts]

What I'd do is put one of those loop band aid scripts in play here. If at any point the TAILS are not in the room with the HEAD, retreat.

Kinda funny for me how such a "great" script needs so many damn band aids. SOME PEOPLE think I'm just being a dick when I say, WRITE YOUR OWN, but I'm being brutally honest.

As for you Buzz of thoughtlessness...

Thanks for the advice, Gibrefi fool (see what I did there)


Don't be afk when you run bigshot so your swinger doesn't die when he is abandoned?

That would pretty much defeat the purpose of playing Shattered, but thanks.

[deadly]

anybody find a fix for this yet ran into same issue here.

[Gelston]

Thanks for the advice, Gibrefi fool (see what I did there)

Gibrefecal would have been better.

[DaCapn]

Man, I should write my own OS every time I complain about Windows crashing. Cause I have that kind of time.

Lich hunting script is to complete operating system as Lincoln-log cabin is to Empire State Building.

[TheEschaton]

I think the comparison is more like "writing a program for public use? Support it, or don't bitch when people come back with bug reports."

[DaCapn]

I think the comparison is more like "writing a program for public use? Support it, or don't bitch when people come back with bug reports."

Admittedly, I thought that my comment was a little silly in hindsight (just attacking an off-hand comment) but you expanded on it such that you're even more wrong.

[Gibreficul]

I think the comparison is more like "writing a program for public use? Support it, or don't bitch when people come back with bug reports."

You're just stupid dude. Such a left wing liberal retarded perspective... You owe me, so get to work while I sit back and do nothing but bitch about it. This is an OPEN SOURCE. Any code that is shared is subject to have errors by the very nature of OPEN SOURCE. The beautiful part is that even if there are some bugs, it is OPEN SOURCE which means the end user has final control over the code... so YOU the end user can adjust and modify it, and even find/remove errors if they exist. The responsibility of using OPEN SOURCE falls on the end user, not necessarily the initial coder. The initial coding is often specific to the original coder and their wants and needs and doesn't necessarily have to represent a global user scenario. The original coder should not be expected to do anything outside of what they have chosen to share, even if it is riddled with bugs. Users like you, however deter coders from sharing because of your bullshit attitude of expecting them to cater to your every whim, or even provide any support for your ungrateful ass.

By your logic, people don't kill people, gun manufacturers kill people. So any time someone gets shot, it's the fault of gun manufacturer who should have put something in their gun design to make sure it doesn't hurt a human, not the ignorant piece of shit who took aim and fired it... right? no? Exactly retard. I think the best "bug fix" would be to remove the script from the public's access so retards like you stop bitching about it.

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Fix your fucking slurpee machine before someone gets hurt!

[TheEschaton]

I think the comparison is more like "writing a program for public use? Support it, or don't bitch when people come back with bug reports."

The red rep I got for this post was "Get the fuck out of my country, we don't owe you shit."

LOL, mad cause you sad, bro?

Edit: Since I see Gib's post mirrors the rep I got, I'm gonna assume it's him. You're a giant douche and I'm more successful than you. My family has done more in two generations in this country than your irrational Pittsburgh loving ass has done in however many your shitstain family has been here, and we're all pretty liberal.

[DaCapn]

Edit: Since I see Gib's post mirrors the rep I got, I'm gonna assume it's him. You're a giant douche and I'm more successful than you. My family has done more in two generations in this country than your irrational Pittsburgh loving ass has done in however many your shitstain family has been here, and we're all pretty liberal.

Gib signs his neg rep. BTW: My grandfather was a badass also.

[TheEschaton]

My grandfather was a truck driver in India, and made less in a year than I currently make in a week, and I'm in the public sector.

Unless you're saying that you left that rep. ;)

[Gibreficul]

The red rep I got for this post was "Get the fuck out of my country, we don't owe you shit."

LOL, mad cause you sad, bro?

Edit: Since I see Gib's post mirrors the rep I got, I'm gonna assume it's him. You're a giant douche and I'm more successful than you. My family has done more in two generations in this country than your irrational Pittsburgh loving ass has done in however many your shitstain family has been here, and we're all pretty liberal.

You just opened up the wrong fucking can.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb227/xN05F3R4TUx/Private/go_fuck_yourself.gif

My grandmother's genealogy was done back in the 80s, and traced her bloodlines back to some pretty interesting places. Most interestingly to me was a recognized name from the Pilgrims on the Mayflower. That puts me about 14 generations in this country. Interesting enough, they all stayed northern, (Puritans) and are recorded as aiding the underground railroad during that whole slavery debacle. (So my ancestors didn't own them, they freed them.)

More recently, and maybe even more interesting is that her father (or grandfather, it's odd when you always hear your parents referring to people that were dead by the time you were born.) was an obstetrician, and recognized as having performed the first successful c-section surgery in Pittsburgh, and continued to perform them with success.

That's just the tip of the iceberg man... what has YOUR 2 generations done? Let me guess. Take advantage of race specific government funding/grants and affirmative action jobs. <Not impressed>

Back on topic, I stand by my original idea. Take responsibility for scripts YOU run, and stop bitching when something is given to you for free. All I wanna do is physically beat that fucking sense of entitlement out of you, because I'm not sure I'll get through that strong force field of stupidity you've built up around you any other way.

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