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Mycetozan
12-18-2011, 08:50 PM
I am looking for a claidmore to be my main weapon, probably permanently. I am currently level 43. I do not hie nor ambush, but I will probably learn ambush soon. I use half plate for now, but full plate in a week or two. I train as much as I can in dodge. I hunt alone a lot because I am usually in the game only for short spurts and at odd hours. I finally have some coins to spend. These are the options I am considering right now. CAN anyone offer any advice or suggestions?

Mithril Claid +5 6 armor use, 7 dodging, 3 ambush (I don’t ambush but plan to start learning once I get into full plate) 12.5 million. Does not say if it is rechargable. I assume that it is.

2x Claid +10 3 agi, 9 stalk and hide. (I do not train in stalk and hide so that is of no use to me) 10Million Rechargable

+12 claid fully lightened, sancted (sancted is of no use to me) Unknown price

3x claid nice description. Somewhat lightened 20 million

I have seen a few 2x claids recently sell for 7 million. I can just wait for one.


I question whether it is worth all the expense for 5-10 more as points form the claidmore. It seems like I could probably spend less and get AS increases in other ways (i.s. heroism potions). IS there any reason to pay the extra for 2x or 3x in a claidmore? A mithril claid can still hit everything cant it?

The less I spend, the more I can put towards some armor improvements, enhansives, or a better blessable maul (currently use 5x).

Thanks

Loyrl
12-19-2011, 11:15 AM
The enhancives are pretty weak for the price on those claids IMO. I would go with a straight 2x to save money for other things that you need. Once you get armor and containers that are max light/deep, then I would go for expensive stuff that are not really needed.

dszabo
12-20-2011, 06:22 PM
If you're looking for a big picture answer I'd recommend settling for a plain 1x claidhmore for around 3 million. That saves you a bunch of coin for your armor and/or enhancives, gives you the magical claidhmore allowing you to hunt gargoyles and that sort of thing, and as a warrior that 5AS loss isn't going to kill you.

That 5-10 million you save (depending on what option you were going to pick) would go a long ways towards getting you some heavily padded plate armor.

joehollywood
12-21-2011, 12:07 AM
You'd need a 10x claid if you want to hit demons...

Mycetozan
12-21-2011, 10:32 PM
I did not know that there weer 10X claidmores. They must cost well over 100 million. I do not want to hit demons that badly.

One reason thaat I want to get a semi permanent weapon is that it takes forever to bond with the weapon. I do nto want to have to start over again

Gelston
12-21-2011, 10:45 PM
Isn't it 8x and blessed to hit demons? I don't think any claidhs exist that are capable.

dszabo
12-22-2011, 12:37 AM
As a warrior killing power isn't going to be your issue. While it is nice to have your weapon fully bonded to, it isn't that great of an advantage, especially if you berserk a lot.

Permanent armor is a much better investment earlier on especially if you primarily hunt alone. Survivability will go a long ways to increasing your income allowing you to save some chrism/spell up/tip (healer) coin and put it towards the purchase of your future weapon.

Sam
12-22-2011, 12:54 AM
1500 like level kills to fully bond. That's not so bad.

Gelston
12-22-2011, 01:07 AM
1500 like level kills to fully bond. That's not so bad.

Really easy to get by berserking warcamps.

Mycetozan
12-22-2011, 12:08 PM
As a warrior killing power isn't going to be your issue. While it is nice to have your weapon fully bonded to, it isn't that great of an advantage, especially if you berserk a lot.

Permanent armor is a much better investment earlier on especially if you primarily hunt alone. Survivability will go a long ways to increasing your income allowing you to save some chrism/spell up/tip (healer) coin and put it towards the purchase of your future weapon.


Thank you.

After years of playing I recently read the premium stuff and discovered premium points. I leaned that I have quite a lot of them. I could sell them off and get almost any armor. Or I could use them to add enchants, flaring and padding to the 6x plate that I have now. (I cannot wear it yet but almost. I have 135 armor trainings). Right now I have some neat flaring half plate from the ebon gate festival, it has some neat uilt in things (it randomly hums, pulses etc). BUt it is only 2x I think. I usually avoid major wounds but get pricked to death quie frequently.

I am thinking about getting some 7 or 8x HCP flaring or spiked plate. I have hears lots of people complain about spiked plate. I have some flaring half plate and I get a kick out of it, escpecially when somehting hits you for three points and gets stunned for a while.

Anyway is 7x or 8x HCP flaring full plate sufficient as forever armor? If crit padding better than damage padding?

does it cost more to get padded or high enchant plate altered in appearance?

On the other hand. I do not want to sell of fhte premium pionts and then wish that I hadn't. People must be buying them for a reason. They seem to be in high demand. It seems like I could sell them all in one day with ease. (I should be able to get almost 40 mllion for the ones I have left. From what I have seen 50 million will buy pretty much any armor. i still would have 10 million left for a claidmore).

The reason that I want to have a bonded weapon is so it will return to my hand. I am slowly training in disarm, but it will be a year before I have significant protection from getting disarmed. Right now, skeletal lords take my weapon with some frequency. Spectral miners case some spell that makes me itch like mad and drop my weapon. Of course I woudl not be hpolding a claidmore in either skeletal lords or spectral miners, but the point is I do nto want to buy an expensive claidmore and then drop it somewhere.

Sam
12-22-2011, 12:54 PM
Don't spend PP on alterations, just watch the announcements. There are plenty of "free" alteration opportunities, especially if you're premium.

Also, tell me more about this large amount of premium points.

dszabo
12-22-2011, 12:57 PM
You hit on another perk of going spendy armor over spendy weapon. You can't lose your armor to itchy curse or disarm.

Depending on the number of points you have though, and if you know of a suit of armor you could purchase, your coin would probably go further buying a "pre built" suit of armor versus building your own. Your armor cannot have flares and padding; one or the other. I would highly recommend padding over flares on your "permanent" armor as flares are fun, and a little useful, nothing beats padding.

You're only talking heavy padding, via the PP, so I would also say you should go with crit padding. Damage padding on full plate is great for a warrior, but if the cap is only 10 HP per swing (it is random) it's not really worth it when you could have 10 points of crit weighting, which would help you survive the maneuver attacks.

It costs the same to alter something regardless of its stats.

Avoid the spikes on your full coverage armor as it will provide a -10 to ALL maneuver defenses - including disarm. Your best bet, if you absolutely have to have them, is to get spiked accessories, helm for headbutt etc.

Mycetozan
12-22-2011, 01:59 PM
Don't spend PP on alterations, just watch the announcements. There are plenty of "free" alteration opportunities, especially if you're premium.

Also, tell me more about this large amount of premium points.

Not so large anymore. I discovered that I had 9000 premium points. I sold 2600 of them, but I think I forgot to include the 400 for the alter scroll (unless that gets credited int he 2600. Si I have either 6000 or 6600 left. Not a huge amount I guess, ut I think it is worth abot 40 million. Since I have somewhat over 20 million now, that should be enough to buy some really fancy armor, a claidmore and maybe a bit left over (maybe I will get a better blessable weapon than my 5x maul).

If I sell the premium points and buy sme fancy armor, then I have a lot of armor to sell. I have some 6x pfull plate. Some estched vultite full plate that I bought form a merchant earlier this year for $1 million (I think it has some cripts or something bt I never found out why it is special), my flaring half plate which apparently can be further unlocked, but I am not sure what it will do, a 4x - 5x augmented breast plate and a 4-5x regular metal breatplate (plus some 2-3x brig with lockpick enhancement that I found in a box). I have a handful of magic items that I do not know what they do as well.

Anyway I need to start selling some of this stuff off. What is the best waay to do that? Just put it on PC? Do I need to have a bard sing to it, or will people know what it is fromt he description? How much do I need to pay a bard to sing to fifteen or twenty items? It seems like a PIA, I am half tempted to just sell it all as is, but I will give finding a bard with half an hour to waste a shot. (I have a pocekt bard that is level 14 or so, but he nevers gets any useful information from loresinging and cannot even hold some of the armor).

Mycetozan
12-22-2011, 04:24 PM
Avoid the spikes on your full coverage armor as it will provide a -10 to ALL maneuver defenses - including disarm. Your best bet, if you absolutely have to have them, is to get spiked accessories, helm for headbutt etc.

Thank you. I only use tackle. I do nto tink it likely that I will get headbutt for a long time. Do any spiked accessories work with tackle?

kookiegod
12-22-2011, 08:21 PM
I got a bard who can do it.

dszabo
12-23-2011, 01:40 AM
Have a bard sing to most things, have a warrior assess your weapons and armor if a bard shows weighting/padding on said items. After you have all the pertinent information you'd be best off posting all that in the appraisal folder, unless you're willing to go pure auction style with a minimum bid of 1 coin and no buyout. You should be able to get some pretty good buy out figures out of the appraisals folder.

Ceyrin
01-07-2012, 01:02 PM
Thank you. I only use tackle. I do nto tink it likely that I will get headbutt for a long time. Do any spiked accessories work with tackle?

Arm greaves and body armor spikes can activate on tackle. I don't know if having both increases your chances.

Mycetozan
02-15-2012, 04:57 PM
Thank you for your help.

Now I am loking at a couple of options.

Mithril Claid (+5) that enhances armor use, dodging and ambush (I do not amush) With a lot of charges left 12,500,000

GLaes Claid (+15). 20,000,000

Various ora claids (+10) 10,000,000

A regular mithril claid (+5) 4,500,000.

As I mentioned, it seems like the added AS is not worth the extra money. I can probably find something to provide an extra 10 as for a lot less than 15 million silver, or something to add 5 as for less than 5 million silver. So far I have not heard any reason to pay extra for a claid over mithril, other than "It is studly to have a 3x claid" Besides, for my warrior it is uaully not a concern hitting a creature or doig a lot of damage. I do not see that another plus 5 or even plus 10 will help all that much.

The mithril claid with dodging enhancives is appealing (I already have armor traning to full plate, so the armor enhance does little good and I do nto ambush). On the other hand, does it make more sense to buy a palin mithril claidmore for 4.5 million and use the extra 8 million to buy something else that will enhance dodging?

Does dodging skill help defend agasint CMAN attacks?

Is there such a thing as a permablessed claimore?

Oh one other quesiotn, any advice as to crit padded full plate vs. fusion full plate (2 slots) ?

Thank you.

Sam
02-15-2012, 05:23 PM
No permablessed claids.

If you're only starting to wear plate, I would suggest padding of some sort, unless you really need those enhancive slots. When you get more redux, switching to fusion may make more sense. Wear a crit padded helmet at least.

Also I have a sweet 4x mattock with 30 points of weighting that I'll sell for the low low price of more than all those claids combined.

Jeril
02-15-2012, 06:40 PM
I'd say just go with the plain mithril unless that bonus to dodge is a large one, meaning 10+.

No idea what level you are but you may want to look into ambushing, its a lot better to kill something in one swing then getting lucky.

I went from 0-100 without any padded armor, still don't have any either. Only time I ever wanted it was when I was getting hit with stone fist. I am sure there are other times where padding would have prevented me from dying but not enough to worry about it.

Sam
02-15-2012, 10:35 PM
If you drink while you hunt, padding can be very helpful.
Playing drunk also really makes me miss Staunching.

Androidpk
02-15-2012, 10:41 PM
My glaes claid is permablessed, mwuahahaha!

Roblar
02-16-2012, 12:58 AM
Does dodging skill help defend agasint CMAN attacks?

Dodging doesn't help against CMAN attacks, at least it hasn't yet replaced CM as the primary skill in defending against manuevers as we were told would be the case. Maybe it is a factor in particular cmans, don't know.


Oh one other quesiotn, any advice as to crit padded full plate vs. fusion full plate (2 slots) ?

You can have the best of both if you add crit padding to fusion plate, which you can do.