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Mycetozan
12-16-2011, 12:42 PM
I want a nice Claidmore, but i do not have enough silver. However I do have a lot of Premium points. How many do I need to sell to get about 5-6 million silver? How many for 10 million?

I have 9000 premium points but I want to keep some to customize my junk, I am hoping that i can sell 3000 or less but I do not know how many you need to sell to get a good price for them.

THanks

Senglent
12-16-2011, 12:47 PM
just look in the high-end folder to get an idea. Then grab a block and put it up for auction. You will get a good price for them.

if memory serves correct someone sold 3600 points a month or so ago for like 25 million I think.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=67563 here is the link to their sale, you can see there is some flux. Lots more examples if you go look.

Archigeek
12-16-2011, 04:00 PM
I have purchased about 15,000 points in the last 4 months, all for around 6000-6500 per point. Some people pay more, others pay less.

As for claids, ones that are less than 3x enchanted cost a lot less than they used to, largely because the treasure system keeps dropping enchanted claids. You should be able to get a claid in that realm of enchant for about 750k per point of enchantment. There's a fair amount of variability, but that's probably not a bad place to start. Once you get to a 3x claid, the price edges closer to 1m per point of enchantment. 4x and higher, you should still expect to pay in excess of 1m per point of enchantment. There are plenty of past sales you could check for more refined information and more accurate numbers.

Androidpk
12-16-2011, 04:03 PM
Have anymore 3x or 4x claids dropped lately?

Sam
12-16-2011, 06:07 PM
Also, please don't use that nice big block of premium points on alteration scrolls.

Ardwen
12-16-2011, 06:17 PM
or lightening or deepening items!

Androidpk
12-16-2011, 06:24 PM
Spend it all on prescripted items!

Mycetozan
12-16-2011, 07:28 PM
Also, please don't use that nice big block of premium points on alteration scrolls.

I have some 6x full plate that I want to make 8x and then add padding and/or flares or something neat. I will have to get some advice on that. I have some armor wth elemental flares (from the Ebons Gate) that I really get a kick out of when I get hit ot tackle sonthing and it stuns them.

I may use some of the points to alter my armor and my claidmore once I get one. It is stupid to add flares to a claidmore? Can it even be done? I am not looking for the best possible statistical path, but something that I can have fun with (which is one reason that my warrior can send mana). I get a kick out of the elemental flares in my armor and when I get a high level blessing the resulting flares are neat and often helpful. There might be neat flares that i could add to a claidmore.

I have only altered a couple of things about 10 years ago and I never used any premium points that I can remember. I really do not know anything about the whole system except a little bit that I read while chilling in TSC.

It probably would be better to just sell them all or most of them and use the coins to buy really neat stuff, but I have a specific look that I want and probably will not find it just being sold on PC. Wiating for alterers does not work for me because it is very rare that I can stay in gemstone for more than a couple of hours at a time (rarely even that long) and the few times I waited around for a merchant to draw names, I am almost never selected. Thus, I will probably end up using some of the points for alterations.

However someone recently told me that FWI merchants come and usually get to everyone there for alterations. I will look into that when I have time (I barely have time to play gemstone, let alone spend hours and hours reading about the process and when events occur etc.). I need to find out when FWI merchants come and how long you need to be there to get an alter. Maybe I can just pay someone to get something altered for me rather than using PPs?

By the way. I also have quite a lot of lower level stuff that I would like to sell. However I have no time to get it sung to, put it up, check the boards do the transaction, etc. Are there people who find the attirbutes and sell stuff for you?


Thank you for the infomration.

Mycetozan
12-16-2011, 07:51 PM
just look in the high-end folder to get an idea. Then grab a block and put it up for auction. You will get a good price for them.

if memory serves correct someone sold 3600 points a month or so ago for like 25 million I think.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=67563 here is the link to their sale, you can see there is some flux. Lots more examples if you go look.

funny, one block sold for 6,944 per point and one sold for 5,555 per point. That is a big range. But the average is 6249, which is exactly the average of what Archigeek said he pays for them.

They are worth a lot. How often do you get more? I have no idea, i just read the premium stuff a couple of weeks ago, looked it up and discovered that I have a whole lot of them. I had seen some of the preimum information before, but never read all of it and never got to the part about premium points. If it says how often you get more, I guess I still have not read that far.

This may not be the place to ask, but I want to get a claidmore and just keep it for good. I do not want to have to continually re-bond to different weapons and risk losing them. Is 3 x sufficient? I do nto see a huge advantage of 4x given the price difference. I can add 35 as points through COL signs, what is another 5 points? It does nto seem like a big enough deal to justify the cost. In fact, I am not sure that 3x is really enough of an advantage over 2x. It looks like 2x claids are selling for 6-7 million and 3x for 20 million with 4x going for 40 million. For 20 million silver, I am certain that I can find somethign else that will give me more than a 5 point AS bonus. When comparing 2x to 3x, it seems the same. For 13 million silver I can probably find a lifetime supply of heroism potions or somthing that would give me a bigger boost than just 5 points. Am I missing somthing?

Tuxedo Gin
12-16-2011, 09:03 PM
You're not really missing anything. People have always had hard ons for claids and the price is inflated because of it. You could probably buy a 0x or 1x claid and drop millions on enhancives and come out ahead.

If you want advice on your points, sell them all in one or several blocks and use some of your earnings to buy alteration scrolls from others. Big blocks of points are going to get rarer as people keep cashing out. You'd get plenty of silver to buy loads of nice gear and then pay 2m or so for an alteration scroll from somebody when you're ready.

Kitsun
12-16-2011, 09:19 PM
Blowing points on alters is a really mediocre option. If you're not in a rush, wait for the next big pay event and hire someone or get a buddy to get alters done for you. Big blocks of points are worth a whole lot more.

Androidpk
12-16-2011, 11:21 PM
Just buy my 3x claid for 20m and call it a day!

loxe
12-17-2011, 05:09 AM
i am currently in the market for a 6200 point block.
pm me you decide to sell off that many

thanks
John

dszabo
12-17-2011, 05:04 PM
How do you not know the answers to your own questions and have 9k PP? "Can you add flares to a claidhmore?" - Are you serious? Although, with 9000 PP you should have been around when the dwarven claidhmores were released with vibe flares way back when, sans weighting.

Mycetozan
12-18-2011, 07:58 PM
How do you not know the answers to your own questions and have 9k PP? "Can you add flares to a claidhmore?" - Are you serious? Although, with 9000 PP you should have been around when the dwarven claidhmores were released with vibe flares way back when, sans weighting.

Simple. I play the game occasionally. (since I am not sure when, it was on AOL when I first started playing and you had to pay AOL by the minute).

I do not spend much time reading the tomes of information available online. There is too much of it and that aspect of the game does not interest me all that much. I do not study the statistics or the tables, etc. I just like to role-play. I am not trying to build the perfect warrior. Sometimes I make choices that are less than statistically ideal, but conform with my role playing choices. (thus, I will use a claidmore, not a maul or lance even though those may be better cho8ices statistically). I will not ever read all the endless charts and tables of information. Numbers are not my thing. I will follow advice from others, or just wing it. I rely on others who are into the number crunching for advice on that sort of thing. Fortunately thee are a lot of people who are into the numbers and things and are very happy to share their advice.

An no. I never heard of the Dwarven claidmores. I used a dull claidmore from a hobgoblin through level 38. Then I got an invar claidmore which broke on a gargoyle. Now I use a damage weighted mattock until I can find a new claidmore that will serve me for a few years. That is the extent of my knowledge about claidmores.

So I guess the answer on the flares is "No"?

Too bad. I get a kick out of this flaring armor that i just bought at Ebons gate. However I should have bought the full plate too.

Brosif
12-22-2011, 02:52 PM
To answer your question on if a 3x claid will hold up, yes, it definitely will. I use a 4x claid (grant it, it's old style), am finally approaching cap, and it does more than fine. I'm sure you'll be more than viable with a 3x one for forever and if you like claids that much then go for it.

Fallen
12-22-2011, 02:57 PM
Anything with weighting (damage or crit) cannot have flares outside of a few rare circumstances that I am sure exist in GS. But the answer is no, in the traditional sense, no flares for claids. Same goes for padded armor and flares. It's a no-go baring special circumstances.

Some Guy
12-22-2011, 03:08 PM
To me even paying 3-5 mil for a mithril claidhmore isn't worth it. Aside from being able to swing at more shit, you're paying millions for a +5 AS boost. One of the magical invar ones for close to 1 mil is worth it, but I never understood why someone would pay up to five times as much just for another +3.

Magical claids are kinda a status thing I guess? If I had loads of silver to drop I'd go for a 3X or 4X one.

Senglent
12-22-2011, 04:08 PM
I used a dull claidmore from a hobgoblin through level 38. Then I got an invar claidmore which broke on a gargoyle. Now I use a damage weighted mattock until I can find a new claidmore that will serve me for a few years. That is the extent of my knowledge about claidmores.

So I guess the answer on the flares is "No"?



Rule number 1) Any non-magical weapon (i.e. does not have an enchanters mark) will shatter on a stone creature, and from the bard song whatever it is. (magical metals of course will not, cause they are magical)

As for flares, nothing weighted or padded (damage or critical) can have flares as it takes the same slot on the weapon/armor.

Litholain or something like that is looking for a big chunk of Points, he has the silvers to spend if you want to sell them. Check under the wanted folder, he posted there.

EDIT: Ohh and a claid off a critter who gens with them normally, like the one you got from the Hobgoblin, has less weighting then one you would buy from the backroom of Tykels. Just so you know.