Tim Tebow

[Stabbyrogue]

I was a doubter, but Christ.

I think I'm a fan now.

$100 on Denver Broncos money line to win each of the last 6 games would have won $38,450.

[msconstrew]

Whatever. Special teams won that game, not Prayer McPrayerson.

[Drinin]

I haven't bet against Tebow since he took over the show in Denver. They'll be in the Super Bowl this year and then the world will end.

[Ardwen]

Marion Barber won that game for denver

[Stabbyrogue]

So you guys think that Orton would have won all these games?

[Keller]

Marion Barber won that game for denver

The Lord works in mysterious ways.

[Rinualdo]

So how does one get down with Jesus? Do I gotta send money somewhere or attend a webinar or something?

[NocturnalRob]

Marion Barber won that game for denver
But he's not on the Broncooooh, I see what you did there.

[Androidpk]

I'm even more excited about next weeks game against the Pats now.

[Tsa`ah]

So you guys think that Orton would have won all these games?

As much as I like Orton, his battles with Grossman in Chicago for the starting position, the trade for Cutler, and then Denver's draft of Tebow pretty much killed his confidence. His career in the NFL has been playing second seat to inferior QBs.

It was pointed out in week 11 ... Orton isn't a motivator, he's bland. Tebow is the opposite. He finished last season, yardage wise, in the league's top 10 with three less games than the other 9 guys. He could have averaged 500 a game and it wouldn't have made a difference.

Tebow is this year's wild cat. He'll get some results until the rest of the league adjusts, then he'll have to learn to play his position or suffer the fate of every other QB in the league that is on the receiving end of lots and lots of hard contact. As far as the post season goes .. they'll see it, but only because the AFC west is a collection of best of the bottom of the barrel. Don't count much coming of it though.

[Latrinsorm]

So you guys think that Orton would have won all these games?Do I think Orton could have set up a 59 yard field goal try? Yes. The real question is if they played each of those games 10 times, do you think the Broncos would have gone 60-10, or even won the majority?

I saw a great stat today that Tebow just set the record for most 4th quarter / overtime game-winning drives for a quarterback in his first 11 starts or something. The old record-holder? Jake Delhomme. The point being: let's not suck his popsicle just yet.

[Parkbandit]

Do I think Orton could have set up a 59 yard field goal try? Yes. The real question is if they played each of those games 10 times, do you think the Broncos would have gone 60-10, or even won the majority?

I saw a great stat today that Tebow just set the record for most 4th quarter / overtime game-winning drives for a quarterback in his first 11 starts or something. The old record-holder? Jake Delhomme. The point being: let's not suck his popsicle just yet.

Never heard of the term "Delhomming"... what's it look like?

[Stabbyrogue]

I'm not saying that he's the next Peyton Manning. I'm saying that it's been fun to watch.

[Soulpieced]

Here's my thing. I get that no other QB's have ever done what Tebow has done. But how many other QBs are the size of your average fullback/tight end/linebacker, have 38" verticals, and can bench 400 pounds? Slightly different mold than Michael Vick, and if he can continue INITIATING contact rather than absorbing it, I think he'll be ok. Mug also has huge arms and a major stiff-arm.

[Latrinsorm]

I'm not saying that he's the next Peyton Manning. I'm saying that it's been fun to watch.If we calculate fun based on utils following Jeremy Bentham blah blah blah I'm a nerd no it hasn't!

Ok ok, it has. :)
Never heard of the term "Delhomming"... what's it look like?5 picks and a lost fumble. Tebow is shrewdly avoiding such a performance by not throwing more than 5 catchable passes in any given week.

[Parkbandit]

If we calculate fun based on utils following Jeremy Bentham blah blah blah I'm a nerd no it hasn't!

Ok ok, it has. :)5 picks and a lost fumble. Tebow is shrewdly avoiding such a performance by not throwing more than 5 catchable passes in the first 3 quarters in any given week.

FTFY

[Shaps]

I love these conversations:

Fact:
Tim Tebow is ranked 14th in QB rating out of 32 starting QB's.

Fact:
He started after virtually no practice at the QB position during training camp.

Fact:
He is 6-1. 2 best win % of any active QB.

Fact:
He doesn't throw interceptions - listen to any other team talk about a rookie QB and that is the biggest thing they ask, ball control.

Fact:
Show just his stats compared to another similiar QB's in a blind "who do we want to be our QB"....

And you'd pick Tim Tebow.. OVER Michael Vick or most anyone else.

[Latrinsorm]

Fact:
Show just his stats compared to another similiar QB's in a blind "who do we want to be our QB"....

And you'd pick Tim Tebow.. OVER Michael Vick or most anyone else.Here's a stat that continues to interest me. In keeping with your theme, I'll leave them unlabeled for now.
Broncos points per game with Quarterback A starting: 21.0
Broncos points per game with Quarterback B starting: 20.5

Isn't that bizarre? We can also count offensive touchdowns while each QB was in the game.
Quarterback A: 2.00 per game
Quarterback B: 2.00 per game

Seriously! 9/4.5 for Orton and 17/8.5 for Tebow. It seems impossible, but it is true nonetheless.

[ZeP]

I was a doubter, but Christ.

I think I'm a fan now.

$100 on Denver Broncos money line to win each of the last 6 games would have won $38,450.

Didn't Jesus have to beat down some bookies or something that one time?

[Swami71]

http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/197910/you-play-to-win-the-game.gif

Poor Orton (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8_buda5vWo)

[Parkbandit]

Poor Orton (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8_buda5vWo)

Holy shit, that's funny. "My wife wears a Tim Tebow jersey to bed!"

[Bregus]

Here's a stat that continues to interest me. In keeping with your theme, I'll leave them unlabeled for now.
Broncos points per game with Quarterback A starting: 21.0
Broncos points per game with Quarterback B starting: 20.5

Isn't that bizarre? We can also count offensive touchdowns while each QB was in the game.
Quarterback A: 2.00 per game
Quarterback B: 2.00 per game

Seriously! 9/4.5 for Orton and 17/8.5 for Tebow. It seems impossible, but it is true nonetheless.

Turnovers per game;

Quarterback A: 2.25 per game
Quarterback B: .5 per game

Time of possession:

Quarterback A: 26:37 per game
Quarterback B: 31:29 per game

Every time Quarterback A (it's Orton!) played the opponent had 1.75 more possessions and an extra 5 minutes to score.

They can both score the same amount of points on offense and Tebow still gives the Broncos a better chance to win the game.

2 of Orton's 3.5 losses were by 3 points.


Let's also put it like this;

Down by 3 pts. Ball on -opponent's- 38 yard line. 2:00 warning.

This was the scenario week 3 @ Tennessee. Orton was sacked, threw an incomplete pass, and then an interception on 3rd and 11 from the 39 (inside Prater's range).

[Latrinsorm]

Turnovers per game;

Quarterback A: 2.25 per game
Quarterback B: .5 per game

Time of possession:

Quarterback A: 26:37 per game
Quarterback B: 31:29 per game

Every time Quarterback A (it's Orton!) played the opponent had 1.75 more possessions and an extra 5 minutes to score.

They can both score the same amount of points on offense and Tebow still gives the Broncos a better chance to win the game.

2 of Orton's 3.5 losses were by 3 points.


Let's also put it like this;

Down by 3 pts. Ball on -opponent's- 38 yard line. 2:00 warning.

This was the scenario week 3 @ Tennessee. Orton was sacked, threw an incomplete pass, and then an interception on 3rd and 11 from the 39 (inside Prater's range).These are good points, but I think you go too quickly from "more turnovers" to "more opponent possessions". If we look at Denver's punter, he had 23 punts over the first 5 games (4.6) and 59 over the last 9 (6.56), for a net increase of 1.96 opponent possessions per game. Certainly it's plausible that an interception leads in general to better field position, so not all possessions are created equal, but it's still useful as a rough figure.

I also want to point out something about fumbles, since you are counting those lost as turnovers (and why wouldn't you?). It has been established (ha!) that every team has a 50% chance of recovering fumbles over time, and that deviations are merely statistical noise. With this in mind, we should note that the Broncos lost 5 of their 7 fumbles in their first 5 games (1.5 more than we would expect) but lost 7 of 15 in the last 9 (0.5 less than we would expect). This changes the turnover numbers to:

Orton Express: 1.95
Tebowmania: 0.56

Decreasing the margin by about a third of a possession per game. There is certainly noise in every other statistic, but this one is really easy to correct for.

[Parkbandit]

I just made a character in SWToR named Tbow (some fucker took Tebow) and when you do a /kneel it looks like you are Tebowing.

[Atlanteax]

Now Tim Tebow is interfering with education across the nation!!!

http://riverhead.patch.com/articles/tebowing-lands-four-students-suspensions-nationwide-press-coverage?ncid=webmail10


Announcement of a simple one-day suspension for four student-athletes at Riverhead High School went viral on Thursday as news broke that the students — who administrators say were creating an unsafe environment by blocking the halls — were emulating one of the most talked-about athletes in America over the past two weeks: Tim Tebow.

In an act known as "Tebowing" — according to Tebowing.com, "to get down on a knee and start praying, even if everyone else around you is doing something completely different" — the foursome was part of a larger group seen in a YouTube video kneeling in the halls of the school. One of the students told Yahoo! it was "out of respect for Tebow, and because 'Tebowing' is the new thing to do."

Tebow — a second-year quarterback who has led the Denver Broncos to six straight wins — is known for his devout Christianity and intensity on and off the field. The act has gained popularity as the Broncos have continued to pile up late-game wins.

The students — brothers Tyler and Connor Carroll, and their friends Jordan Fulcoly and Wayne Drexel — had reportedly started the practice on Monday, according to a report in the News-Review.

Yahoo! Sports broke the story early Thursday, later making it to local media. The story also found its way onto ESPN's Sportscenter, which reported that two of the students' suspensions were lifted after administrators found that they were not warned as the other two were.

Superintendent Nancy Carney released the following statement via email: "It’s wonderful that our students look up to sports heroes such as Mr. Tebow, but we can’t allow students to create unsafe situations in school. Students cannot block hallways and prevent other students from getting to class. A couple of students who were spoken to previously did not heed to the warning given by administrators, and they were disciplined accordingly.

"We hope that these students and all of our students continue to look up to the positive role models in public life; we just encourage them to do it in a responsible way."

[Latrinsorm]

Passively blocking a hallway? Lucky they didn't get maced.

[DoctorUnne]

Brady is like Tebow in the 4th quarter, and he's like Tebow's 4th quarter in every other quarter too.

[Keller]

Brady is like Tebow in the 4th quarter, and he's like Tebow's 4th quarter in every other quarter too.

Can you imagine the magic Bellichick could make with Tebow.

It would be like MJ + Phil Jackson or Bill Walton + John Wooden.

Unstoppable.

[Latrinsorm]

Can you imagine the magic Bellichick could make with Tebow.

It would be like MJ + Phil Jackson or Bill Walton + John Wooden.

Unstoppable.Redundant, Tebow already knows what the defense is going to do through divine revelation.

[Parkbandit]

This was awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul2dhNaQgxM

[DoctorUnne]

No matter how much the refs tried to hand the game to Pittsburgh they couldn't stop Tebow!

Those of you with daughters better go lock them up. Roethlisberger's offseason just started.

[Drew]

I was as excited during this game as if the Dolphins had been playing. Love watching this Tebow kid do business.

[Stabbyrogue]

Hell of a game. I think I'm the only person in my circle that gave the Broncos any chance at all. Let the gloating begin.

[Drinin]

I'm a Steeler fan and I was rooting for the Broncos. They're just fun to watch.

[tallkris3]

I'm a hater... I still hate the man.

[Bregus]

Tebow = Antichrist??
http://boston.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/could-tim-tebow-really-just-be-the-antichrist/

Hitler reacts to Tebow beating the Steelers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD6B1CXXgM0

[DoctorUnne]

The Tebow train derailed in the same place it did in the regular season. Against the Patriots.