Blatant MA'ing: Dwai--Rasko

[Saberwolv]

Greetings.

Admittingly, I am not a user of these forums. However, I decided to at least give it a try before rushing to any conclusions.

A very interesting incident happened to me yesterday. I had known Dwai and Rasko (and I think somebody else) were all slave to one another, but the blatant lack of roleplaying between their characters is disgusting. I have long been an oponent to MA'ing, and this is a prime example why.

I was curious in knowing, have the members of these forums had similar experiences with Dwaiscko?

To briefly outline my situation, I was in the park grumbling as usual. A younger dark elf was trying to assess my strength (I dont think she liked the way I described her race). Sticking his nose where it doesnt belong, Dwai, the RP'er of the year, decides to cast spells at me to see. Because, as we all know, the Theorem of Thirteen Year Olds says: "The number thinigies are in character!".

With the spell soundly warded off, Dwai gets the air removed from his lungs (It was my duty to demonstrate true wizardry). Rasko enters, out of nowhere, with unstun already prepared. Casts, runs back to TSC where he rots in safety everyday until Dwai calls upon him.

To try and make this as brief as possible, the situation continues....Dwai decides to e-wave the park, Rasko comes to his aid out of nowhere to save him. Rasko gets stuns, Dwai appears magically....yada yada....

Its rather sad. If your going to be so blatant about throwing characters around and treat them all as one, go play an RPG where you can use cheatcodes like "POT O GOLD" .......

~Saber

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Soon, you will be able to fist him. Can't unstun that, bitches!

[Parkbandit]

I believe everyone here knows Rasko and Dwai are played by the "Tool" formally known as Superstar Sean. He used to play some idiot character that was banned for being stupid as well as taking advantage of some duping bug.

He's certainly not worth the time to even attempt to roleplay with as he hasn't the skill set for such complex behavior. It's better to simply play the "How quickly can we get Sean banned once again" game.. like everyone else.

I still say.. 7/1/04

[HarmNone]

If I am not mistaken, there is at least one other thread on these boards concerning these characters. Needless to say, it was not flattering, if I am remembering correctly.

As for this type of player moving to a more suitable game...well, to put it succinctly, ain't gonna happen. In a game where this type of play is a way of life, these idiots would have their heads handed to them. Besides, it is not near so "cool" to be a pain in the ass when everybody else is also a pain in the ass. So, they come to GemStone. Now, they have the best of both worlds. There are plenty of people to irritate the living shit out of, and they can do it (for the most part) with impunity.

HarmNone

[Xcalibur]

For some people, gemstone is just a game like final fantasy or dragon warrior with other people: you can do whatever do "win".

But who didn't used AIM to get help because they died in a far away places? Who used psinet to get help too?

:scared:

[HarmNone]

Umm...I did not use AIM to get help when my character died in an inconvenient place. Does that answer your question, Xcalibur? :)

HarmNone

[Chadj]

Dwaiscko :lol:

And the 'rule of thirteen year olds'... I take offense to that. I never did that when I was thirteen. I wasn't that stupid.

Yes, most of us have had problems with Dwaiscko. Generally, you can kill him if he really gets to you (GM's don't seem to care anymore). Other than that, just try to ignore and avoid him. He's not really worth the effort.

[Chadj]

Oh, and as far as Xcalibur's statement:

Chadj hasn't died in a long while. When he doesn, I NEVER use Psinet or AIM. I normally wait it out. And I havn't used Psinet for information either.

[Weedmage Princess]

Sean should suffer some slow and painful disease that may or may not result in death.

[DeV]

Tell us how you really feel Weedie.. :lol:

[Snapp]

Originally posted by Chadj
Oh, and as far as Xcalibur's statement:

Chadj hasn't died in a long while. When he doesn, I NEVER use Psinet or AIM. I normally wait it out. And I havn't used Psinet for information either.

Sorry, I just have to pull the "BULL SHIT!!" card on you there. I remember a group that was coming out to rescue you because you died, then logged out, and didn't want to decay. So, not only do you use AIM or whatever to get help, but you slam too.

On topic: Dwai/Rasko/Pudgee trio probably won't last too much longer. Seany tends to get bored with his purchases quick (if he doesn't get banned first).

[LordSagan]

It's a game people. Relax.

We use to log out of the game and send GEnie's version of instant messaging to each other to get help when we died there. We logged into chat room to wait for a cleric there. We had people who played multiple accounts at the same time back then, as well.

If Simu didn't want people MAing, then they'd make it so the client couldn't run two instances at the same time. In fact, it's the exact opposite and they made it so you *could* do it by choice.

I'm not saying that some of the twits who MA are just that, twits...but my god people, stop being such tools about it.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by LordSagan
It's a game people. Relax.

We use to log out of the game and send GEnie's version of instant messaging to each other to get help when we died there. We logged into chat room to wait for a cleric there. We had people who played multiple accounts at the same time back then, as well.

If Simu didn't want people MAing, then they'd make it so the client couldn't run two instances at the same time. In fact, it's the exact opposite and they made it so you *could* do it by choice.

I'm not saying that some of the twits who MA are just that, twits...but my god people, stop being such tools about it.

To me, there is a HUGE difference between the example at the beginning of this thread and multi-accounting. Tons of people MA.. but the people who do it with no regard to actual roleplay or to anyone around them need to be strung up by their nipples.

And while you are right up to a point.. it really IS just a game.. there are things that should be maintained. I believe roleplay is one of them.

[Galleazzo]

Originally posted by HarmNone
As for this type of player moving to a more suitable game...well, to put it succinctly, ain't gonna happen. In a game where this type of play is a way of life, these idiots would have their heads handed to them. Besides, it is not near so "cool" to be a pain in the ass when everybody else is also a pain in the ass. So, they come to GemStone. Now, they have the best of both worlds. There are plenty of people to irritate the living shit out of, and they can do it (for the most part) with impunity.Yeah. People keep telling me that a Gemstone: FAllen will solve GS's problems like that, and I say back it ain't going to happen. What these tools are all about are bitchslapping other folk, only they don't like it so well when they're the punching bags. Fallen you'll have the folks at the top of the heap, and everyone else gets to be their bitches and grovel, and that kind isn't about grovelling.

[Chadj]

Snapp, wtf? I have died 3 times in the past 4 months, and all 3 times I decayed.

[AnticorRifling]

How many times has Chadj died when you weren't driving the bus?


Ohh yeah, I MA but I'm not a tool about it, at least I think I'm not....

[Artha]

People keep telling me that a Gemstone: FAllen will solve GS's problems like that, and I say back it ain't going to happen. What these tools are all about are bitchslapping other folk, only they don't like it so well when they're the punching bags. Fallen you'll have the folks at the top of the heap, and everyone else gets to be their bitches and grovel, and that kind isn't about grovelling.

I think the thing with Fallen is that GMs will be freer with the lock outs because they'll still get money, and other people don't have to deal with this sort of crap.

[Snapp]

This is what I'm referring to Chadj...

Originally posted by Chadj
Bah, i will admit, i did a mechanics abuse.. Wow, i think thats my first time ever doing it... I was short on time, and didnt feel like getting my ass killed and dragged/fogged, and then healed, and then rezzed.. didnt have the time. But then again, no excuse :(


taken from: http://www.forum.gsplayers.com/viewthread.php?tid=895&page=21

Taken from a while ago, but don't act high and mighty like you've never used AIM or cheated a little bit. :P

[Chadj]

Look at the date man. That was back when I still hunted in Anwyn, which was sooo 2003. I meant of recent date. I wasn't clear in my words... thats my fault.

But wow.. Touché my good man. Touché.

[Chadj]

By the way, thanks. It's a bit off topic, but I was wondering why I had Kodiakc highlighted as snert. I totally forgot.


Kodiakc [subdued]: "it was when gs3 came to the web"
Kodiakc [subdued]: "wasnt ice age before we came to the web?"

[HarmNone]

MAing is not a problem, as far as I am concerned. I played more than one character and had three accounts. I know many people do. For the most part, I believe that most of those who MA do it well.

Personally, I chose not to have one of my characters help another of my characters, unless it was roleplay related in some way. Each of my characters stood on his/her own merits. That was my preference. However, I do not see a problem with someone who MAs and DOES have one character help another.

The problem arises, in my view, when a jerk like Sean MAs for the purpose of causing disruption and ruining the enjoyment of other players. Bringing in an older character to deal with the PvP issues created by a younger character is what is being discussed here, as I see it....not harmless MAing.

HarmNone

[TheEschaton]

I have more than one account. It took me a long time before I'd even have more than one account signed on at a time, but I'm at a happy place, where I don't mind having more than one character signed in.....I just go out of my way to not really have them interact with each other. At least not in public (which includes all hunting grounds).

Cue Edaarin to point out the one time I did, though he knows better than to post a log (cause he doesn't have one). I try, on the occasions where my characters do meet, to at least have them interact with each other/others around them.

It's funny when people hate one of your characters, and comes to your other character to bitch about said first character.

-TheE-

[DCSL]

Yes. Sean/Dwai/Rasko is a complete ass. His absolute disregard for even the veneer of role-play has long irritated me whenever he shows up. It'd be so much easier if he'd just be.. quietly OOC, but the boy doesn't know the meaning of 'discretion'.

As for MAing... I've seen it done relatively well, I've seen it done as though the person were typing with their ass. It's one of those things that can be good or bad, enriching or irritating, and I find it better to take it on a case-by-case basis rather than making roundly stereotypical remarks about all engaged in it.

[TheEschaton]

Let's be honest. I don't think it can ever be enriching.

Not if you're trying to play two characters at the same time, and by playing I mean actually RPing as them.


-TheE-

[DCSL]

Originally posted by TheEschaton
Let's be honest. I don't think it can ever be enriching.

Not if you're trying to play two characters at the same time, and by playing I mean actually RPing as them.


-TheE-


Well, I dunno how enriching it is for the person playing them... I mean, I hardly ever play my two accounts at the same time, especially not actual role-playing. It overloads my brain to try.

But I did see one very well-done instance. A guy played his two characters as twins, the identical finish-each-others'-sentences kind of twins. This would have been virtually impossible with two people.. IMs would have to be exchanged at the speed of thought.

It was amazing! It was hilarious when appropriate, touching when something happened to one of the twins, dramatic when they both fell in love with the same woman. I can't say how much I regret the fact that the guy doesn't play anymore. I aspire to that kind of role-playing with just one character. I really don't know how he did it.

I know that's just one instance but I found it 'enriching'. Enough so that I'll hold off from condemning all MAers for this guy's sake.