Converting to pure, how does this look?

[Beguiler]

In a few more trainings, I'm looking at converting from polearm to pure. At level 50, this is my projected traininig:

Elf Bard:

At level 50: Ranks X

Armor Use 36 (0.7X)
Shield Use 51 (1.0X)
Brawling 102 (2.0X)
Multi-Opponent Combat 10 (0.2X)
Physical Fitness 25 (0.5X)
Climbing 20 (0.4X)
Swimming 20 (0.4X)
Perception 27 (0.5X)
Arcane Symbols 20 (0.4X)
Magic Item Use 20 (0.4X)
Harness Power 51 (1.0X)
Mental Mana Control 26 (0.5X)
Spell Research 67 (1.3X)
Minor Elemental 30 (0.6X)
Bard 37 (0.7X)
Elemental Lore 51 (1.0X)
Air 51 (1.0X)
Mental Lore 51 (1.0X)
Manipulation 51 (1.0X)
Telepathy



She is already adept at all instrument types. Is there really any need for her to go beyond the initial 15 ranks of manipultation lore, or should I continue for the other benefits?

While she's pure, she is 2x brawling, should she pick up some telepathy lore? and how much?

She has 10 ranks of MOC for FoF, should I add another 5 and use mstrike with my brawling weapon?

[DaCapn]

I'd imagine that with the runestaff updates brawling is a less attractive option. You could 1x THW and probably have about an extra 0.5x-0.75x from magical skills. Get your air lore up and sing up a sonic runestaff. Of course that puts more emphasis on manipulation lores. Maybe runestaff pure bard is only really viable at level 58 once you can get 60 manipulation ranks. Haven't seen much chatter about that.

[Sheikh]

2x shield, 0x brawl is what I would do, that got me all the way to nelemar

[Savageheart]

Generally speaking hows this look? Toward the 2x shield build
@Lvl 52
54 Armor Use
108 Shield Use
54 Physical Fitness
54 MIU
54 Harness Power
15 MmC
31 MnE
50 Bard
35 Air
54 Manip
15 Climb
15 Swim
20 Percep

[Buckwheet]

Here is my post cap bard:



Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 160 60
Shield Use.........................| 302 202
Brawling...........................| 201 101
Physical Fitness...................| 201 101
Arcane Symbols.....................| 102 24
Magic Item Use.....................| 200 100
Harness Power......................| 201 101
Elemental Mana Control.............| 102 24
Mental Mana Control................| 102 24
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 175 75
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 105 25
Climbing...........................| 105 25
Swimming...........................| 140 40

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 75

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 117

[Beguiler]

Thanks, lots to think about!

[Tenzle]

I'd imagine that with the runestaff updates brawling is a less attractive option. You could 1x THW and probably have about an extra 0.5x-0.75x from magical skills. Get your air lore up and sing up a sonic runestaff. Of course that puts more emphasis on manipulation lores. Maybe runestaff pure bard is only really viable at level 58 once you can get 60 manipulation ranks. Haven't seen much chatter about that.

Do THW ranks actually stack with magic ranks for runestaff defense?

[DaCapn]

Do THW ranks actually stack with magic ranks for runestaff defense?

Purely an assumption on my part. Makes sense to me that they would stack up to a limit, but it's not like we have a shortage of things that don't make sense. Someone fixskilling to a THW warmage would be a good candidate for testing.

[Neparr]

Question on the armor training values for buckwheets post cap bard. Why the 60 ranks? Is that a particular magic number to shoot for?

[DaCapn]

http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Armor_Usehttp://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Armor_Use

[Neparr]

Sorry, i should have given more detail in the question. I looked there before i asked but didn't see an exact correlation between 60 ranks and having fully trained off both MnE and Bard spell circles for an armor type. Unless he is wearing Augmented or Double chain and just living with not fully training off the spell hindrance for the MnE circle.

[Constal]

Buckwheet.. why only 130 lores?