Joe Paterno fired

[WRoss]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/10/sports/ncaafootball/-joe-paterno-and-graham-spanier-out-at-penn-state.html?_r=2&smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto


STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Joe Paterno, who has more victories than any coach in major college football history, was fired by Penn State on Wednesday night in the wake of a sexual abuse scandal involving a prominent former assistant coach and the university’s failure to act to halt further harm.

Graham B. Spanier, one of the longest-serving and highest-paid university presidents in the nation, who has helped raise the academic profile of Penn State during his tenure, was also removed by the Board of Trustees. When the announcement was made at a news conference that the 84-year-old Paterno would not coach another game, a gasp went up from the crowd of several hundred reporters, students and camera people who were present.

“We thought that because of the difficulties that engulfed our university, and they are grave, that it is necessary to make a change in the leadership to set a course for a new direction,” said John Surma Jr., the vice chairman of the board.

[Jace Solo]

Odd. ESPN said he already did his resignation paperwork? You think they're trying to save money by firing him?

[WRoss]

Odd. ESPN said he already did his resignation paperwork? You think they're trying to save money by firing him?

He filed it for the end of the season.

[BriarFox]

Nothing to do with money. It's mostly symbolic. I don't know if JoePa really deserved it, but it's hard to say without knowing how much he knew about the original incident, and that's hazy. I also think there might have been some simmering resentment of Paterno among the board of trustees from when he was asked to step down in 2004 and he refused.

[Lord Orbstar]

and he didnt even get a piece of that young ass. no justice.

[Jace Solo]

Good Point



Nothing to do with money. It's mostly symbolic. I don't know if JoePa really deserved it, but it's hard to say without knowing how much he knew about the original incident, and that's hazy. I also think there might have been some simmering resentment of Paterno among the board of trustees from when he was asked to step down in 2004 and he refused.

[Some Rogue]

It still blows my mind why more people aren't upset at the assistant who saw the incident with his own eyes, did nothing to stop it, and didn't call the police. He just runs and tells Paterno the next day.

[Parkbandit]

It still blows my mind why more people aren't upset at the assistant who saw the incident with his own eyes, did nothing to stop it, and didn't call the police. He just runs and tells Paterno the next day.

This.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I think the board did the right thing in firing everyone involved.

[Gravebane525]

lol jokes already going round bout this. guy at work just read this one off.

"older women who have sex with young men are called cougars, older men who have sex with young women are Nittany Lion"

[BriarFox]

"Older women who have sex with young men are called cougars; older men who have sex with young men are Nittany Lions."

FTFY.

[AnticorRifling]

That's pretty funny.

[Gravebane525]

FTFY.

lol shows you how much I know about whats going on. guess I wasn't listening close enough when the guy said it.

[Hulkein]

It still blows my mind why more people aren't upset at the assistant who saw the incident with his own eyes, did nothing to stop it, and didn't call the police. He just runs and tells Paterno the next day.

Trust me, as a PSU Alumn and a PA resident, the people who know who he is (McQueary) are furious. He is a coward.

[Drew]

SHOCKING PENN STATE RUMOR: Jerry Sandusky 'Pimped Out Young Boys To Rich Donors'


Sportswriter Mark Madden went on WEEI in Boston and reported a rumor that alleged child molester Jerry Sandusky would pimp out boys to rich donors.

"I hear a rumor that there will be a shocking development from the Second Miles Foundation ... That Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors."

Madden claims it's being investigated by "two prominent columnists."

We'd say this is ridiculous, and that you should take it with a grain of salt. But Madden actually wrote about Sandusky for the Beaver County Times six months ago — long before the scandal blindsided everyone else this week.

Madden also claimed Sandusky was forced out of Penn State in 1999.

"I think you'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told he had to retire in exchange for a cover up."

Sandusky retired at 55 in 1999, a year after Pennsylvania police investigated (but did not prosecute) him for allegedly molesting a boy.

Again, label this under "RUMOR." But Madden has been out in front of this story before, so stay tuned
http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry-sandusky-donors-2011-11

[Atlanteax]

Nothing to do with money. It's mostly symbolic. I don't know if JoePa really deserved it, but it's hard to say without knowing how much he knew about the original incident, and that's hazy. I also think there might have been some simmering resentment of Paterno among the board of trustees from when he was asked to step down in 2004 and he refused.

I consider him to be scrapegoated by the University, which does not want to take any blame, and is using this as an opportunity to get rid of Paterno when he is vulnerable.

Could Paterno had done more at the time of the incident in question? Probably ... but he did do what he was legally required to do ... and he has an exemplary track-record otherwise (no NCAA investigations, his students graduate, etc).

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I consider him to be scrapegoated by the University, which does not want to take any blame, and is using this as an opportunity to get rid of Paterno when he is vulnerable.

Could Paterno had done more at the time of the incident in question? Probably ... but he did do what he was legally required to do ... and he has an exemplary track-record otherwise (no NCAA investigations, his students graduate, etc).

Paterno did what he was legally required to do? Really? Not calling the police?

[Hulkein]

Paterno didn't have to call police under the law. What he did was turn a blind eye to what he had to know was a cover-up of a sexual predator's actions on PSU campus. He deserved to be canned.

[tallkris3]

They had to fire Joe Pa... After all that has gone on and this weekends game being the final home game he coaches... he'd be carried off the field. Photos of Joe Pa being carried off the field would look pretty bad after all the negative stuff that has gone on.

Not exactly what the University is looking for....

[Parkbandit]

Paterno didn't have to call police under the law. What he did was turn a blind eye to what he had to know was a cover-up of a sexual predator's actions on PSU campus. He deserved to be canned.

That is my feeling about this. He certainly didn't do enough.. which would include letting the team take turns beating the shit out of that molester.

[Revalos]

They had to fire Joe Pa... After all that has gone on and this weekends game being the final home game he coaches... he'd be carried off the field. Photos of Joe Pa being carried off the field would look pretty bad after all the negative stuff that has gone on.

Not exactly what the University is looking for....

This is probably the best explanation of why he got fired instead of either allowing him to retire at the end of the season or at least after one more game that I've heard. It is still going to be a potentially anarchic situation at Happy Valley though. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see significant police reaction to any even remotely unruly behavior to stop it from becoming a riot.

[tallkris3]

This is probably the best explanation of why he got fired instead of either allowing him to retire at the end of the season or at least after one more game that I've heard. It is still going to be a potentially anarchic situation at Happy Valley though. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see significant police reaction to any even remotely unruly behavior to stop it from becoming a riot.

I'd be shocked if there wasn't a near riot at the game this weekend.

[Marl]

http://i.imgur.com/Z3fkC.jpg

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Paterno didn't have to call police under the law. What he did was turn a blind eye to what he had to know was a cover-up of a sexual predator's actions on PSU campus. He deserved to be canned.

We so need a good samaritan law.

Seriously though, while it may not be the law, he should have been morally obligated. I'm glad he was fired.

[Hulkein]

he should have been morally obligated. I'm glad he was fired.

No doubt about that man. I agree totally.

[Keller]

So do you think they'll ever link the missing district attorney from the Sandusky case to the cover up?

Dude's been missing since 2005, so unlikely. But it has some intrigue.

[WRoss]

I'd be shocked if there wasn't a near riot at the game this weekend.

According to ESPN, there is rioting as we speak.

[Stretch]

Last night's protest was even dumber than OWS.

Paterno's retirement speech to try to avoid getting canned was delusional.

"That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment, the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can."

[Parkbandit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8BruKiMaIY

Seriously, this guy just made himself look even more guilty. WTF was he/his lawyer thinking to allow this interview?

[Keller]

I hope he gets ass raped by the horse dick of some bull-nostriled black man.

[Parkbandit]

I hope he gets ass raped by the horse dick of some bull-nostriled black man.

He doesn't even deserve that IMO... he would probably enjoy it.

I hope he gets shanked... fucking piece of shit.

I also hope Penn State ceases to exist because they get sued by thousands of people.

[diethx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8BruKiMaIY

Seriously, this guy just made himself look even more guilty. WTF was he/his lawyer thinking to allow this interview?

No shit. I was watching that after the game last night and as soon as Costas asked him if he was sexually attracted to young boys and he didn't deny it immediately and flat out, I turned to Justin and said guilty.

When someone asks you if you're sexually attracted to children and you aren't, you will immediately deny it flat out no fucking way sir that's disgusting. You won't respond to that question by restating the question, and then say weeeeeell I enjoy young people but no I'm not sexually attracted.

Fucking guilty.

[Parkbandit]

No shit. I was watching that after the game last night and as soon as Costas asked him if he was sexually attracted to young boys and he didn't deny it immediately and flat out, I turned to Justin and said guilty.

When someone asks you if you're sexually attracted to children and you aren't, you will immediately deny it flat out no fucking way sir that's disgusting. You won't respond to that question by restating the question, and then say weeeeeell I enjoy young people but no I'm not sexually attracted.

Fucking guilty.

Well, that and having to explain what you were doing naked in the shower with different little boys and if your junk touched them.. and how it was an accident.. yea, you are a fucking piece of shit pervert that needs to be curb stomped out of existence.

I hope Penn State loses every single lawsuit that is brought against them in regards to this piece of shit.

[diethx]

Well, that and having to explain what you were doing naked in the shower with different little boys and if your junk touched them.. and how it was an accident.. yea, you are a fucking piece of shit pervert that needs to be curb stomped out of existence.

I hope Penn State loses every single lawsuit that is brought against them in regards to this piece of shit.

Agreed - that part just made me shake my head too.

Ok, I get MAYBE showering after practices in the same shower room as them. Still inappropriate, but to admit you were horsing around naked in the shower with them? WTF? Did this guy really think he was helping his case?

[AnticorRifling]

Did this guy really think he was helping his case?

Yes.

Now he gets the good luck finding an impartial jury route opened up.

[Keller]

Maybe he could find an impartial jury on the Neverland Ranch.

[Hulkein]

I also hope Penn State ceases to exist because they get sued by thousands of people.

That's going overboard. You want an entire university around since 1855 to cease because of a scumbag D coordinator and a coverup by a few administrators?

[Keller]

That's going overboard. You want an entire university around since 1855 to cease because of a scumbag D coordinator and a coverup by a few administrators?

Maybe irrational, but I do.

I can't think of a more heinous crime.

[Parkbandit]

That's going overboard. You want an entire university around since 1855 to cease because of a scumbag D coordinator and a coverup by a few administrators?

Perhaps, but I have zero empathy for anyone associated with the Board or Administration. They knew about this piece of shit and they allowed him to retire.. paid him a nice pension and let him continue to have an office in the sports complex... with access to the showers. How the fuck could something like that happen.. given all the evidence in 1998?

It's more than "a few" by the way.... and yes, I'm looking right at Joe Paterno on up.

[Hulkein]

They are cleaning house. Seems to me to be appropriate.

[diethx]

They are cleaning house. Seems to me to be appropriate.

Why did it take so long to clean house?

[Atlanteax]

http://www.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/180/2011/11/14/101056_600.jpg

[Parkbandit]

They are cleaning house. Seems to me to be appropriate.

13 years later is "appropriate"?

I can't imagine how many little boys this sick fuck touched during that 13 year period that could have been avoided had the Board and Administration done what they should have done at the time.

[Hulkein]

Why did it take so long to clean house?

Because the people who knew about the crimes kept it from the Board of Trustees who ultimately had the power to can people from the president on down.

[Hulkein]

13 years later is "appropriate"?

I can't imagine how many little boys this sick fuck touched during that 13 year period that could have been avoided had the Board and Administration done what they should have done at the time.

That's not anything close to what I am arguing. The people in power who are terrible people kept it from the BOT who have now started firing said people in power now that they know about it.

[diethx]

Because the people who knew about the crimes kept it from the Board of Trustees who ultimately had the power to can people from the president on down.

That's exactly the point we're making - why a simple firing of these people who purposely hid the situation is not enough punishment.

[Hulkein]

That's exactly the point we're making - why a simple firing of these people who purposely hid the situation is not enough punishment.

Uh, so closing down the university that they just happened to work at, thus affecting ~80k current students, thousands of faculty who had nothing to do with it, and the millions of PSU grads in the world is the right punishment?

Are you drinking this afternoon or are you just not following the conversation at the point where I joined in close enough?

[diethx]

Uh, so closing down the university that they just happened to work at, thus affecting ~80k current students, thousands of faculty who had nothing to do with it, and the millions of PSU grads in the world is the right punishment?

Are you drinking this afternoon or are you just not following the conversation at the point where I joined in close enough?

We're all drunk except you I guess, Hulkein.

[Hulkein]

Well, not really. Keller admitted it was irrational and PB said it was "perhaps" over the top. That leaves you.

[diethx]

I think that Penn State needs to pay, and pay big. Along the lines of PB's original comment - "I hope Penn State loses every single lawsuit that is brought against them in regards to this piece of shit."

[Hulkein]

The point is simple: what happened is horrible. Those in the administration who covered it up should absolutely lose their jobs. The Board of Trustees made sure they did lose their jobs. You want them prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law? So do I. You want the school closed down? That's where I say you sound like someone who is being irrational because it is an emotional subject.

[diethx]

Oh, and I don't necessarily think that Penn State in its entirety should be shut down. Maybe just the football program. You have to wonder what sort of thinking goes on there, what sort of ethics these people preach when in order to prevent a scandal from hurting their football team, they purposely hide child molestation and allow it to continue with who knows how many victims.

[Keller]

Let's remove the context of a university.

Say that this was Microsoft.

In 1998, an executive assistant saw Paul Allen diddle a little boy in his office. The EA reported it her boss who reported it to Steve Jobs. Jobs, being close to Allen and wanting to keep his friend out of trouble, covers it up. He tells Paul he needs to step down. Paul says, "ok, Steve. I wanted to spend more time diddling little kids in my foundation anyways." Steve ignores this and goes about his business.

13 years pass and countless little tots are diddled.

How would you feel about Microsoft? Should we save Microsoft for it's shareholders, employees, and unsecured creditors? What about the worldwide technological infrastructure that depends on Microsoft?

[diethx]

Let's remove the context of a university.

Say that this was Microsoft.

In 1998, an executive assistant saw Paul Allen diddle a little boy in his office. The EA reported it her boss who reported it to Steve Jobs. Jobs, being close to Allen and wanting to keep his friend out of trouble, covers it up. He tells Paul he needs to step down. Paul says, "ok, Steve. I wanted to spend more time diddling little kids in my foundation anyways." Steve ignores this and goes about his business.

13 years pass and countless little tots are diddled.

How would you feel about Microsoft? Should we save Microsoft for it's shareholders, employees, and unsecured creditors? What about the worldwide technological infrastructure that depends on Microsoft?

Steve Jobs?

[Keller]

Steve Jobs?

Billionaire tech guys - they're all the same.

[diethx]

lol

[Hulkein]

Yes you save Microsoft. You fire the people responsible and let law enforcement prosecute anyone that committed a crime to the fullest extent. If the company is closed it only does more harm to innocent individuals. I like the change of context, Keller. Fairly original ;)

Also, for reference everyone, please go back to the beginning of the thread where I completely agreed with Paterno's firing when it happened. I just had to respond to this thread again since people are calling and hoping for things to happen to the University like it will do anything but harm more innocent people.

[Keller]

Yes you save Microsoft. You fire the people responsible and let law enforcement prosecute anyone that committed a crime to the fullest extent. If the company is closed it only does more harm to innocent individuals. I like the change of context, Keller. Fairly original ;)

Also, for reference everyone, please go back to the beginning of the thread where I completely agreed with Paterno's firing when it happened. I just had to respond to this thread again since people are calling and hoping for things to happen to the University like it will do anything but harm more innocent people.

To be clear (which I don't think I have been), I think you "end" PSU by draining the endowment through punitive damages. I'm not advocating that the governor remove it's charter or anything drastic.

Say there are 25 kids that step up. They all win civil suits and are awarded $50M each. That is $1.25 billion, or 83% of PSU's endowment. That would effectively end PSU as we know it. Should we protect PSU? Does it deserve immunity?

[Hulkein]

No it doesn't deserve immunity. Where do you get $50m per victim? Are these cases worth that much? I honestly have no idea. What did the generic church abuse victim get for a settlement?

[Parkbandit]

To be clear (which I don't think I have been), I think you "end" PSU by draining the endowment through punitive damages. I'm not advocating that the governor remove it's charter or anything drastic.

Say there are 25 kids that step up. They all win civil suits and are awarded $50M each. That is $1.25 billion, or 83% of PSU's endowment. That would effectively end PSU as we know it. Should we protect PSU? Does it deserve immunity?

What about all the kids in his charity? What about all the kids that went to the school after PSU negligently made it an unsafe place to go? What about his neighbors?

I think this will be far more than 25 lawsuits when it's all said and done.

[Parkbandit]

No it doesn't deserve immunity. Where do you get $50m per victim? Are these cases worth that much? I honestly have no idea. What did the generic church abuse victim get for a settlement?

Yea.. just so we're clear, I'm not asking the Government to shut down PSU.. I'm saying that if after settling all the lawsuits, it folds up into bankruptcy, I won't shed a tear for PSU.

[TheEschaton]

Can a state university fold, though? I don't know how state school endowments are actually funded from the state itself, vs. from private donors.

[Revalos]

PSU won't fold. Their athletic program is basically done though. Their endowments will mostly be fine outside of those who pull their funding due to this scandal, lawsuits will be settled for fractions of what they ask for.

I imagine we'll see a self imposed 1 year "death penalty" next year in order to basically clean house from top to bottom of anyone associated with Paterno/Sandusky...maybe even some removals of all the Paterno related kitsch that surrounds the campus (statues/plaques). The only way PSU football can survive this is to do that, otherwise they are inviting future lawsuits against remaining legacy issues.

[Atlanteax]

If PSU is financially at risk because of the potential lawsuits involved...

I would say that it speaks more to the outrageous sums demanded/settled for in such litigation nowadays.

What makes these incidents so "special" compared to child molestation incidents going on elsewhere in the US?

Or is it "oh, PSU has an endowment ... lets go after as much $$$ as imaginably possible!!!" ?

[Parkbandit]

If PSU is financially at risk because of the potential lawsuits involved...

I would say that it speaks more to the outrageous sums demanded/settled for in such litigation nowadays.

What makes these incidents so "special" compared to child molestation incidents going on elsewhere in the US?

Or is it "oh, PSU has an endowment ... lets go after as much $$$ as imaginably possible!!!" ?

Demanded/settled is generally greater against a deep pocketed organization than it would be against a normal J.E. Public.

[tallkris3]

So these folks won the molestation lottery.

Guy works at Penn State, he goes to jail and they get rich.

Had he worked for John Doe's quickie mart, he just goes to jail and victims get nothing.

[Parkbandit]

So these folks won the molestation lottery.

Guy works at Penn State, he goes to jail and they get rich.

Had he worked for John Doe's quickie mart, he just goes to jail and victims get nothing.

They would at least get a Slurpee at the Quickie Mart... but essentially you are correct.

[WRoss]

The Duke Lacrosse players got a shit ton of money after the allegations against them turned out to be false.

[Parkbandit]

The Duke Lacrosse players got a shit ton of money after the allegations against them turned out to be false.

I hadn't heard that.. but good for them. They deserve it.

[Keller]

If PSU is financially at risk because of the potential lawsuits involved...

I would say that it speaks more to the outrageous sums demanded/settled for in such litigation nowadays.

What makes these incidents so "special" compared to child molestation incidents going on elsewhere in the US?

Or is it "oh, PSU has an endowment ... lets go after as much $$$ as imaginably possible!!!" ?

What makes this special? Are you serious?

This is not just a couple of boys being diddled by a PSU employee.

This is boys being diddled AFTER PSU's administration had been given notice of the diddler's nature. In my view, culpability for every single child molested after they were given notice is shared by everyone that knew about it and did nothing.

[Atlanteax]

What makes this special? Are you serious?

This is not just a couple of boys being diddled by a PSU employee.

This is boys being diddled AFTER PSU's administration had been given notice of the diddler's nature. In my view, culpability for every single child molested after they were given notice is shared by everyone that knew about it and did nothing.

Again, what makes it so "special" vs molestation continuing elsewhere, where people have shamefully done nothing despite being aware?

The point is that this is not limited to PSU ... and that PSU should not necessarily be punished "more" *because* it has a sizable endowment.

Make an example out of the school officials involved, yes ... make a payday out of it due to the existence of an endowment, no.

[Parkbandit]

Again, what makes it so "special" vs molestation continuing elsewhere, where people have shamefully done nothing despite being aware?

The point is that this is not limited to PSU ... and that PSU should not necessarily be punished "more" *because* it has a sizable endowment.

Make an example out of the school officials involved, yes ... make a payday out of it due to the existence of an endowment, no.

That's the way the legal system currently is.. slip and fall in Tiffany's and you will sue for more money than you would if you slip and fell in Joe's Dollar Store.

[Atlanteax]

Yes, but that does not make it "right".

[Keller]

Again, what makes it so "special" vs molestation continuing elsewhere, where people have shamefully done nothing despite being aware?

The point is that this is not limited to PSU ... and that PSU should not necessarily be punished "more" *because* it has a sizable endowment.

Make an example out of the school officials involved, yes ... make a payday out of it due to the existence of an endowment, no.

It's really a retarded question.

It's not being punished more. The plaintiffs are able to collect more because the defendant has more money.

If you got into a car accident with an indigent driver w/o insurance and a rich driver without insurance, is the rich driver punished more because he is rich, or because he can pay for the damages?

[Atlanteax]

South Park is roasting Penn State hardcore tonight...

Child protective services guy = "on a scale of one to ten, how old do you have to be to stay away from Penn State?"

Keller must be laughing up a storm.

[Keller]

South Park is roasting Penn State hardcore tonight...

Child protective services guy = "on a scale of one to ten, how old do you have to be to stay away from Penn State?"

Keller must be laughing up a storm.

I will have to watch it.

The only TV I watch these days are sports and the HBO/Showtime drama of the quarter.

[Atlanteax]

(bumping most relevant Joe Pa / PSU thread I could search for)

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-07-12/penn-state-report-joe-paterno-role-sandusky-scandal-louis-freeh-investigation?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D178182


Joe Paterno and Penn State's most influential administrators did not concern themselves with the victims of abuse at the hands of now convicted child molester Jerry Sandusky, Louis Freeh's seven-month investigation concluded. The report was released Thursday.


Freeh said Paterno was powerful enough to have stopped Sandusky's unprecedented access as a retired coach "if he wished." Sandusky retired in 1999, but that did not appear to be an action related to the 1998 incident, Freeh said

I can agree with the later. Considering Paterno was aware that something was 'off' with Sandusky in 1998/1999, why not just move to bar Sandusky from being on campus to fully ensure no harm comes to the football program?

[Atlanteax]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8191027/penn-state-hit-60-million-fine-4-year-bowl-ban-wins-dating-1998


The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998, the organization said Monday morning.
The career record of Joe Paterno will reflect these vacated records, the NCAA said.
Penn State must also reduce 10 initial and 20 total scholarships each year for a four-year period.


By vacating 112 Penn State victories over a 14-year period, the sanctions cost Paterno 111 wins. Former Florida State coach Bobby Bowden will now hold the top spot in the NCAA record book with 377.


Emmert had warned Penn State last fall that the NCAA would be examining the "exercise of institutional control" within the athletic department, and said it was clear that "deceitful and dishonest behavior" could be considered a violation of ethics rules. So, too, could a failure to exhibit moral values or adhere to ethics guidelines.
The Freeh report also said school had "decentralized and uneven" oversight of compliance issues -- laws, regulations, policies and procedures -- as required by the NCAA.

"Brutal" just about sums it up...

[WRoss]

Eddie Robinson is the winningest coach in NCAA D1 at 408 victories. He coached Grambling State University from 1941 until 1998.

[Back]

They may as well shut that campus entirely, bulldoze it down, and pour salt on the earth where it once was.

[SHAFT]

It's not the official "death penalty", but it might as well be. The chances of Penn State rebounding from this are slim to none.

[Parkbandit]

It's not the official "death penalty", but it might as well be. The chances of Penn State rebounding from this are slim to none.

I'm fine with it... it should be the death penalty the way the University covered up the sexual assaults.

Let Penn State burn IMO. They have no one to blame but themselves.

[Androidpk]

I agree with the punishment, think it should have been worse but oh well. And what was up with all the hippies protesting the removal of the statue? That shit was hilarious.

[audioserf]

Have they said why they're leaving Paterno's name on the library? Seems inconsistent with removing the statue, and definitely inconsistent considering the punishment.

[WRoss]

Have they said why they're leaving Paterno's name on the library? Seems inconsistent with removing the statue, and definitely inconsistent considering the punishment.

Because he was the champion of staying quiet.

[Back]

Because he was the champion of staying quiet.

Repped.

[diethx]

Because he was the champion of staying quiet.

:lol:

[WRoss]

You all are bringing tears to my eyes! So kind!

[audioserf]

Because he was the champion of staying quiet.

*stands up and begins slowly clapping*

[Ardwen]

Perhaps he donated the largest to the library fund, thats often how buildings at universities get named after all

[Atlanteax]

Perhaps he donated the largest to the library fund, thats often how buildings at universities get named after all

They essentially said that was why they are leaving his name up there.

[WRoss]

Perhaps he donated the largest to the library fund, thats often how buildings at universities get named after all

Harvard sold their naming rights to the bathroom in their law school.

http://abovethelaw.com/2012/02/true-story-harvard-law-sells-naming-rights-to-its-new-bathrooms-and-a-berkeley-law-professor-couldnt-be-happier/

[Latrinsorm]

The weirdest moment for me watching it on Sportscenter was when they put up a selection of football people tweets. One was from a Penn State player, Adam Taliaferro (whose name in Italian means "cut iron", as every Mentalist fan knows): "NCAA says games didn't exist..I got the metal plate in my neck to prove it did..I almost died playing 4 PSU..punishment or healing?!? #WeAre"

What makes it weird is considering it as a rallying cry: "Yeah! What about all the kids who were permanently maimed for our entertainment? How dare the NCAA infringe on that?"

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I thought the NCAA set these penalties up in a pretty clever way. The system put football above literally everything else, so there have to be football related penalties. The system had no regard for child abuse, so now it has to pay $60m for the express and specific purpose of preventing child abuse and assisting the victims of it. It's crazy to me that an amateur football program can make tens of millions of dollars a year in the first place, but they do so redistribute away.

[SHAFT]

Bill O'Brien will be eating well till 2020

"Any sanction by the NCAA of a) loss of scholarships or b) bowl eligibility due to the actions of the previous staff or lack of institutional control prior to 2012 will immediately result in an automatic extension of coach's contract at 2016 total compensation and bonus package in years equal to the number of years of the sanctions. "

Chalk this up to an intelligent agent. Bravo whoever you are, bravo

[Atlanteax]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8338225/penn-state-nittany-lions-jerry-sandusky-trial-cost-school-nearly-17-million


HARRISBURG, Pa. -- Penn State's costs for legal fees, consultants and public relations firms hired to help deal with the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal have reached nearly $17 million.

The university said it has spent almost $16.8 million through June 30.

Nearly $10 million of that went to seven firms for what Penn State calls internal investigation and crisis communications. Nearly $4 million went for university legal services and defense.

The university is also facing lawsuits from Sandusky's accusers while the NCAA leveled a $60 million fine against the school in July.

The school says the costs for the legal defense and public relations are not paid by student tuition, taxpayer funds or donations. It says the costs will be covered by insurance policies or interest payments on loans it makes.

That's a lot of cash that could had instead been allocated towards education...