Who the hell is Avaia?

[Blazing247]

I was watching a rather funny dialogue between a few people regarding Psinet on the official boards. Then I read this post by Avaia.

<Know what it reminds me of? The good 'ol AOL invasion, with a bunch of snerts running around acting like brats.. (OOH!..she dropped an "Ive been around a long time" reference!")...heh>

Uh, no you haven't. Who the hell is Avaia, and where did she come from? She certainly hasn't been playing more than a few years, and to top it off, she's a cunt.

[Bobmuhthol]

Dumb cunt. w00t.

Link to thread, plz. I may just have some things to say about PsiNet.

[Blazing247]

<https://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=5&topic=3&message= 7988>

I don't know who is worse, Celtar or Avaia.

[Skirmisher]

Its hard to top Celtar

[Bobmuhthol]

That entire thread sucks so much.

Also, the official boards have the WORST layout I've ever seen. It's confusing as hell, not convenient at all, and poorly coded at best. I was going to reply, but it would take so much unnecessary effort.

PsiNet wins, btw.

[Artha]

What bob said.

[Blazing247]

Yes, it is quite hard to top Celtar. I mean, how can we even begin to debate with a man who has played a text based RPG for 11 years. ELEVEN YEARS. I was in middle school then. We are all pwn3d by his mere amplitude of years playing and quitting and playing and quitting and whining and playing and bitching and moaning and quitting and playing and threatening and whining and quitting and selling his items and buying his items back and whining and quitting and then playing the game. I will totally disregard the fact that he couldn't argue his way out of a paper box, and is, in general, a fucktard.

[Edaarin]

Avaia is a fairly high level sorc I've seen while hunting every now and then. I usually refrain from commenting on people who say they've been playing XXX long, because while it's usually bullshit, you never know. Maybe they were some other character back then. Besides, AOL chats for Gemstone wasn't all that long ago.

[Scott]

I just wonder why people throw the "I've been around longer" crap when it means nothing. I don't care if you've been around since 1995, 1997, or 2004 it doesn't matter.

Jim, The Queen (Yes, Queen) of the "When I started playing 150 years ago" or "Back in the good old days" definately is the worst of anyone I've ever met. Shut up, just because you've been playing since GS started doesn't mean that what you say is law, while everyone else is a peon. (Sorry Methais.)

[Scott]

Oh, and I almost forgot about his buying items crap. He BITCHES constantly about bought characters and how they are the downfall of Gemstone and everything. However he is always buying silver and items, but that's ok..... If it wasn't so sad, it would be amusing.

[Blazing247]

<Jim, The Queen (Yes, Queen) of the "When I started playing 150 years ago" or "Back in the good old days" definately is the worst of anyone I've ever met.>

I'll give you the Queen for Jim, but the King is definitely Bleys. Fortunately, that twerpdud finally left. One down, one to go!

I'll give Krakii one thing, he's been around a long time and he never, ever uses it as an argument.

[Kitsun]

Egads, you can feel the heat from this thread from the Today's Posts link!

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Blazing247
I'll give Krakii one thing, he's been around a long time and he never, ever uses it as an argument.

True.

I can usually come up with a list of stuff I dislike about someone. I cant think of anything about Krakii.

[Chadj]

My account is currently down..

Could someone plz do a favor and post the following:
---------------
Avaia, stfu.

Love,
Chadj
-----------------------

it would be much appreciated.

[Artha]

It'd get pulled for masked vulgarity.

[Chadj]

probably :(

[Nakiro]

Here is rather humerous post, if anyone cares to read it. The direct link can be found below.

https://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=5&topic=3&message= 7962

Also... while I don't like the player of Avaia so much, I don't think this topic belongs in character complaints given it is taken from an OOG source.



Interesting little slams here and there, due to my opinion on a product. Btw Omnirus, I knew Omnirus and got quite a bit of his gear when he left. So if you were Omnirus I guess I might think something of your opinion. Now that, is a soapbox topic if there was was one.

So to the rest, yes I've used the old GEnie Fe with the dragon flying across the top of the screen. Which was really painful to get to work. Later on after the deICEing when AOL and then Prodigy and Compuserve got access to the game I also used those FE's. Matterfact I was a friend of(Lord Brimstone) Keith Ledbetter's aka NW Strider for Never Winter Nights on AOL who wrote the AOL FE and passed it out to a few of us. SIMU knew Keith from an older time before 1990 and asked him if they could use the FE. Which was why you all now have the Wizard.

The difference between those FE's and what Psinet does, is that those work within the guidelines that SIMU set and guided by SIMU. Psi net is not like that, its independent and not under any control or regulation by them. Btw Keith also passed around an auto roller as well. Of course there was one from the GEnie of the boards years before. Really clunky though.

All of this is incidental though, just as the time Ive spent here are not of any factor either. Which is alot longer then you Wincit's player, since you made a point of mentioning something about that though it had nothing to do with this debate. Lets get back to the point of the subject.

People are easily swayed and very easily do the by and large get used to something, whether its good or bad. Other people soon follow, its the herd mentality that humanity is prone to. The very unfriendly, rude and profane manner in which people behave on those chat channels, will after a time spill into GS. Actually its already started from what I noted in the past couple months.

Along with that attitude will come more and more ooc comments, remarks and insults. Actually we are seeing that on the crystal amulet, and once schools out this will increase quite abit in my opinion. People will moan and groan about the ooc stuff in the game but nothing will get done about it and it will grow like a festering sore of a bought character's shallow souled body.

We'll grumble but we'll get used to it, whats worse is many will get drawn into using Psinet because they'll feel left out. The aids are quite good, but soon that won't be enough. Soon they'll tune into the chat channels an though disgusted by what they read, one day they'll reply and cut back at some snipe. After a bit they're hooked in and trading insults left and right and talking about the superbowl, the latest video card, how much they want to bend the Olsen twins over a table.. etc etc. And that's how I see many people becoming just as bad as those total snipes you hear right now on the chat channels.

After a while most will use psinet and we wont hardly ever see an ic remark. or the IC and OOC will be so well blended that it will truly become a glorified chat room ala the Red Dragon Inn.(Which on its good nights was pretty good but on its bad nights was dreadful)

Of course this is just my opinion, but I'm pretty good at judging human character or lack of. So if it didnt' go this way I would be pleasantly surprised. Even this scenario becomes halfway true or half as bad as I'm predicting, it will be to much in my opinon.

Jim/Celtar

[Nakiro]

Heh, to add, this was all taken from a less than 24 hour test trial of Psinet... and Avaia has never used it herself to my knowledge.

[Warriorbird]

I love how Avaia complains about OOC coming into game... and then signs her posts on the official forums as Avaia.

Her whole passive agressive approach to RP is a topic by itself.

[Edaarin]

Heheh when I see 20 threads that had all but sputtered suddenly pop up again, all by the same person, that's when I know Conan's back.

On a side note, I'd like to reaffirm my position that the vast majority of the people on OOC chat should never reproduce lest they continue to pass on their combined mental capacity of a carrot.

[Artha]

After reading a couple of her posts, I'd have to agree with bob. She's a stupid cunt. She also sucks at arguing.

[Blazing247]

Heh, I missed that post by Celtar. It is duly noted, however, that he once again dropped a GEnie reference. Avaia sucks, but Celtar SUX.

[Galleazzo]

Psinet OOC chat is a bunch of tools and idjits, no error. So I don't use it. That's all.

[Bobmuhthol]

When so many morons occupy the planet, do you really expect to not run into them?

I don't bash the PC because of its stupid members, and you shouldn't be bashing PsiNet for that reason. PsiNet has seen a lot of dumbasses, but most aren't. It's not the people you have a problem with, it's the discussion. Or, if you do have a problem with everyone that uses PsiNet's OOC channel, you have a problem with the following people:

Saturninus Taelrak Thorns Missoni
Graysalin Drevenn Dirik Syphaer
Darwar Wilvar Stunseed Khayo
Harliegha Archales Chalon Minnonn
Seagrave Avery Nalina Talman
Elestus Cayge Maliku Daergard
Geshron *Cancel Krumble Mordreith
Razox Veredox Huka Taneandra
Sanggios Marvyra Thelan Taylir
Whispersdeath Ambraisha Bhambi Dazmar
Arinvar Kithus Daegal *Tayre
Mazzeya Bobmuhthol Nasse

[Warriorbird]

Pff. I like to sort've rove through the PC. Why didn't you say that in one of those threads?



[Edited on 5-31-2004 by Warriorbird]

[Nakiro]

Originally posted by Galleazzo
Psinet OOC chat is a bunch of tools and idjits, no error. So I don't use it. That's all.

You don't use the chat client, or you don't use Psinet?

Oh wait, where you aware that the former was possible?

[The Cat In The Hat]

Originally posted by Warriorbird
I love how Avaia complains about OOC coming into game... and then signs her posts on the official forums as Avaia.

Her whole passive agressive approach to RP is a topic by itself.


Actually, she signs her posts "Avaia, player of"

Avaia's opinionated, cold, and a bit on the loner side but thats how she chooses to play and it works for her. Avaia the character I like, Avaia the player I dont know beyond her posts on the official boards, but Ive seen her post some intelligent things and she CAN be nice at times.

Her argument, and the whole argument about Psinet I dont much care for. I use Psinet, I love Psinet and I think Jamus needs to be cut some slack and I really don't think that discussion belongs on the official boards.

Avaia's all in all a good girl, cut her some slack eh? I've NEVER seen her break character or anything. But then again im not one of her close friends, Im just some chick thats had the opportunity to interact with her on quite a few occasions, one in which she wanted to blow my limbs off, but hey, we're past that now ;)

Cat

*Im hung over, had a typo!

[Edited on 5-31-2004 by The Cat In The Hat]

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I've NEVER seen her break character or anything.>>

That doesn't give her the right to act like the queen that knows everything about people, GS, PsiNet, Simutronics, and roleplaying as a whole. Fuck her and her stupid argument. It sucks. She sucks. PsiNet wins.

[The Cat In The Hat]

No you're right, she does have a tendancy to act like she knows everything, people have faults and this is one of hers but...

I've been reading her posts on the official boards for a long time and there are only a few times when I've seen her state something as fact, or reply to someone elses statements of fact, and be wrong. So... she's not stupid by any means, just very opinionated. Do I think she's wrong about this whole Psinet thing? Absolutley. Do I think shes entitled to her opinion? Without a doubt yes. But I don't agree with her stiring up that hornets nest as bad as she has there. That was a bad judgement call on her part, everyone makes them shes not a "cunt" for doing so.

The issue of Psinet is a touchy one simply because it allows people without 116 to locate, and it allows me to check my bank balances even after I've dropped Preemie and so on... Its a wonderful program and I cant see playing without it now.

Aparently Avaia's never used Psinet so IMO she really shouldnt be involved in that argument because she's not an employee of Simu. But she is indeed entitled to her opinion.

Cat

[Bobmuhthol]

I don't know how Jamus feels on the matter. He knows more than I do on how PsiNet works, obviously, but I have a sense of it. It's that knowledge that allows me to make the conclusion that these people have no business crying about PsiNet because they don't know how it works.

The thing about locate is it doesn't locate the person. It just displays the last room description they saw because that information is stored by PsiNet. PsiNet does this in the same way the Wizard or StormFront recognize new rooms for MOVE commands in scripts. Being that the Wizard is just a front end, this is very much possible and not harmful in any way. It has no negative effects if people know how to use it.

The only problem with that is people. People think that because Jamus knows how to do these things, he's automatically doing something wrong. Everything that requires being linked to PsiNet is done on a computer used only as a server, and Jamus has only remote access to it, as it's not with him.

If people want to claim PsiNet is doing this or that, or making roleplay less abundant, they can fuck off. Sure, they're entitled to have an opinion. Sure, they're entitled to voice that opinion. That doesn't mean they have to, especially when they're stupid and wrong.

[Edited on 5-31-2004 by Bobmuhthol]

[The Cat In The Hat]

Jamus does quite well on answering any question he's asked, so hopefully she'll become more informed on it and tone down some.

I've made the offer to Jamus to help him (free) with a new website so hopefully he'll take me up on it. Maybe make a bit more informative one.

Cat

[Warriorbird]

Seems like she's worked extra hard on making it "Avaia, player of" lately. Maybe she can be learn.

:chuckle:

I think she's unquestionably a very intelligent person. Minus her whole my way or the highway bit (PSInet being a great example) and the passive agressive stuff over RP in general, I'd have nothing against her.

[Blazing247]

I never said Avaia wasn't an intelligent person. I don't know her from a random cumstain on hotel bedding, so I'll take your word for it. I dislike...no, I hate...how she has the holier than thou attitude on nearly ever topic she debates.

And when she dropped the "I've been around a long long time" phrase, that's what set me off. She hasn't, and even if she had, it doesn't fucking matter. I'm not even going to say how long I've been around cause you know what, that makes me look like a tool. Well, unless it's a general discussion about that topic.

p.s. Nice CompUSA pic. Too true.

[SiKWiDiT]

Damn, I remember the Red Dragon Inn. I was like twelve then.

Do people still do the chatroom roleplay stuff anymore?

[The Cat In The Hat]

Well... I've been back playing GS for almost 2 years now and Ive always seen her posts signed "Avaia, player of" I on the other hand sign my posts on the official boards with my player name just so there's no confusion as to who I play.

Yes she can have a "My way or shut up" attitude but I think it suits her character and I applaud her RP. As for her attitude on the boards, I just overlook it because there's nothing her or anyone else could ever say that will upset me or ruin my real life. Hope that goes for everyone else here as well. So just overlook her.


Cat

[Edited on 5-31-2004 by The Cat In The Hat]

[DCSL]

Originally posted by SiKWiDiT
Damn, I remember the Red Dragon Inn. I was like twelve then.

Do people still do the chatroom roleplay stuff anymore?

I probably shouldn't be admitting to it, but yes, I did.. up until I was about nineteen, I think. Played in RhyDin, though, which was an expansion of the RDI chatrooms. I think I actually miss the RhyDin Sparring Ring sometimes... which just goes to show I'm a huge dork. :rolleyes:

[SiKWiDiT]

Yeah, I played in RhyDin a lot. My favorite hangout was the 'Moonlit Lake'.

[DCSL]

Originally posted by SiKWiDiT
Yeah, I played in RhyDin a lot. My favorite hangout was the 'Moonlit Lake'.

Har, I remember that place. Shigeru X and I used to go in there.

To be on topic.. uh.. I like Avaia 'cause she likes my art (I'm bribe-able) and she's fairly open about role-playing with unknowns, which many people aren't. No idea on her posts.. I don't seem to read any topics she debates in.

[Blazing247]

Bonus points to Methais for PWNing Rakkash on the official boards.

[SpunGirl]

The fact that there's a character named Nasse irritates me. The fact that Bob doesn't like her makes me feel better. She should just quit now.

-K

link to methais pwning?

p.s Avaia is a dumb bitch

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by The Cat In The Hat
Yes she can have a "My way or shut up" attitude but I think it suits her character and I applaud her RP. As for her attitude on the boards, I just overlook it because there's nothing her or anyone else could ever say that will upset me or ruin my real life. Hope that goes for everyone else here as well. So just overlook her.

However the problem is that her attitude as her charater is spilling over onto the boards which are merely players speaking to each other. The boards are not really for IC speaking (that's a different rant altogether). So if her attitude is the same both as her character and her posting behavior, then it seems she has a problem separating the two, or she's just merely playing herself. Not much of a roleplayer if you play yourself, but that's just me.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

PSINET rocks, OOC chat is full of idiots (me included), but they are entertaining ones at least. When I get tired of the bullshit, I switch to another channel where 4 of my friends are on. When I get tired of the silence, I switch back to OOC and listen to the idiots.

Anyone who says the OOC channel isn't full of idiots, is an idiot. Listen to the conversations there. I will admit there are some cool mechanics conversations, general conversations, and other stuff too, but predominately the chatter is people calling each other a fag, butt pirate, homo or to STFU. That, my fellow idiots, is idiotic.

[Warriorbird]

Interesting note, CT. And she complains about OOC...

[The Cat In The Hat]

Well... I pretty much play myself and I think it's RP. IRL I would never meditate to take someones wounds or fight some scarry firey thing with a stick.

Everyones defanition of RP differs. To me it's playing yourself if you want to, but thats not to say I just play myself and thats it. I get into quests, but every choice she makes is a choice *I* would have made givin that same situation. Personally I find im too much me to play someone completley different, and im well aware im likely not makeing any sense right now since im sleepy!


Avaia can be a bit harsh, if thats how she is IRL then she needs some pills to fix it BUT it takes every kind to make the world spin, and if she wasnt her then there would be nothing to bitch about, and we ALL need things to bitch about.


Cat

[Blazing247]

Cat so = Avaia.

:yes:

[Chadj]

Originally posted by Blazing247
Cat so = Avaia.

:yes:

rofl. :rolleyes:

[Galleazzo]

Originally posted by Nakiro
You don't use the chat client, or you don't use Psinet?

Oh wait, where you aware that the former was possible? I don't use the chat client. Psinet kinda rocks.

[Caramia]

Eh, never heard of Avaia before she got loud on the boards in the last few months. Seen her around, seen her CS, she's probably hunting Wyneb or Snow Madrinols, or playing it safe in the Stronghold and Bonespear.

Found her comments about Psinet being a cheat and OOC a bit hypocritical since she admitted to using IMs occasionally.

[Bobmuhthol]

Avaia hunts in the Rift.

[HouseofElves]

Avaia the character is fine. A supreme Dhe'nar bitch. That's cool, balance and all that it's good to have some people who take Dhe'nar seriously(I guess).

From what I've seen on the boards, she's a lonely little person with little else to do then confuse IC and OOC post, and nit pick every little post to try and make the previous poster seem like a dumbass but actually just giving herself that award.

I'm not a fan.

[The Cat In The Hat]

Originally posted by Blazing247
Cat so = Avaia.

:yes:


Uh... no. Guess again.


Cat

[Parkbandit]

Gee... I miss the official boards so much.

Not.

[Blazing247]

I almost wish I had the desire to go to Simucon so I could tell the players of Avaia and Celtar to get a life. I feel this would be the pot and the kettle scenario...you know, cause anyone who attends Simucon obviously has no life... :flamewar: :whistle:

[Parkbandit]

I find Celtar and all of his characters fun to roleplay with. I also find that Jim has plenty of a so called "life".

Never heard of Avaia though.. so I have no opinion about her or her player.

[Trinitis]

If I remember right, Jim moved to WA, not too far from where I live. I wanna say he moved in with a lady who plays GS as well..but I can't remember for sure.

[CrystalTears]

Last I heard he moved to WA to live with Heathyranne/Ashby. But that was about a year ago so I'm not sure if that's still the case.

I've ranted enough about Jim in the past to not want to rehash that all over again. Although I'm guilty of it myself, he needs to learn to let things go after a while.

[Edited on 6/1/2004 by CrystalTears]

[CeltarLomion]

Yep, live in WA. :) With Heathyr still. Err Avaia's been for the last seven or eight years.

Jim

p.s: btw CT, I dont even recall what it was I need to let go of. So I guess I did let go of it. I was trying to recall and I'm drawing a big blank. :)

[Nakiro]

Welcome to PC forums Jim.

[CeltarLomion]

Thanks :) Finally got around to emailing and asking for a password because I guess the server kept burping when I'd attempt to open an account.

Jim

p.s: these damn smilies to the left crack me up. Keep distracting me when I go to post. :socool:

[Blazing247]

Jim, I think she was referring to your inability to let old memories be just that...old memories. What the game was 12 years ago and what the game is now are vastly different beasts, and nobody really cares for the incessant history lessons. You either need to adapt, or find a hobby you enjoy. My refuge from the Simu boards is slowing slipping away...

[Mistomeer]

Originally posted by Blazing247
Jim, I think she was referring to your inability to let old memories be just that...old memories. What the game was 12 years ago and what the game is now are vastly different beasts, and nobody really cares for the incessant history lessons. You either need to adapt, or find a hobby you enjoy. My refuge from the Simu boards is slowing slipping away...

Yeah, I'll agree with that. Among other things. That's not to mention that just because someone's been around since Genie, doesn't make them right, not by a long shot. I don't have any memorable RP experiences with Jim's characters in game, but I know that reading his posts on the Official Boards is like a stereotypical conversation with your grandparents: "When I was your age, I walked to school barefoot in the snow..."


Of course, I think there's plenty of threads on this on the PC.

[CeltarLomion]

Sort of amusing that I've posted a few times as CeltarLomion and Lomion and never mentioned those things, but you two did. Sort of a common theme, whether I mention such things or not.
Personally I'd rather not hijack this thread into a "Damn it Celtar's here and life is now going to suck thread".

Someone asked queried about me, so I responded. Rather straightforward and simple. Don't make it into something it wasn't.

Jim

[Galleazzo]

Yeah, I'm real down with the idea that someone who started a thing a year ago knows a lot more than someone who started 10 years ago.

Some of you who say you hate history lessons'd be the first to jump all over a 3 week newbie telling you how you should be playing this game, and you know it.

:noob:



[Edited on 6/3/2004 by Galleazzo]

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I like Jim, quirks and tendency to preach aside ;p He's fun to rp with, and fun to talk to out of the game. So what if he's been playing since he had that Atari 800 and voices his opinion -- we all do too!

PS - I hated my Atari 800, the keyboard was those pressboard things... where the keys are all flat and there is a rubber mat on top of it... When I got an Apple ][e I was in heaven!

[Trinitis]

Jim, you two are in Walla Walla? Or Yakima? I can't remember. I'm thinking you two are the ones I had a short conversation about Claar Cellers on the offical boards..

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by CeltarLomion Personally I'd rather not hijack this thread into a "Damn it Celtar's here and life is now going to suck thread".


Jim

:whistle:

[Warriorbird]

I like Jim except for his play.net address not forwarding... and his associating my moods to any other person.