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Khariz
08-13-2011, 03:20 PM
Chaos Maul Information:

Randomly changes how much it adds or subtracts to AS every swing. Ranges anywhere from -50AS to +50AS with average AS of +20.

With each swing the maul changes colors and has a randomized effect. The following effects occur at random on each swing:

Black = Critical Weighting
Grey = Damage Weighting
White = Cold Flares
Red = Fire Flares
Green = Acid Flares
Blue = Lightning Flares
Brown = Impact Flares

First Try (http://pastebin.com/zEcupwZ2)

Second Try (http://pastebin.com/ugRSgTMs)

War Party Task (http://pastebin.com/E3fknqYC)

Failed Shaman Attempt, but Easy Fry (http://pastebin.com/uRi5Qmj8)

Succesful Shaman Kill (http://pastebin.com/WQyXsrd6)

Chaos Maul with Futtilo (http://pastebin.com/g81zQBDe)

This weapon is up for grabs for about 40 mil if anyone wants it. Using a new weapon as my main weapon now. I'm not going to *TRY* to sell it as it's fun, but if someone wants it, I'll part with it.

Also looking for a 10x blessable two-handed sword base, or high enchant (4x+) old style claidhmores in trade (I also have a vultite new-style claid and some silvers if deals need to be made).

Warriorbird
08-13-2011, 08:42 PM
Opinion?

Khariz
08-13-2011, 09:15 PM
Well...I have to take into account that I've been doing warcamps with a vultite claidhmore since I got back. So the crit levels have been off the charts.

That said, taking less instant deaths into account, the maul base certainly hits a lot harder, hit per hit, and its pretty funny to see 3/5+ of the hits in a 5 hit mstrike all flare. The head and neck crits are also just as frequent, but I'm also using the HCW major bane thing.

AS you can see, my AS typically fluctuates from 519 to 599. That's with 0 ranks of Bond complete. When I finish all 5, I should be seeing AS of over 600 with it consistently.

I think I'm going to keep using it as my main weapons. Since 90% of my hunting time is just berserking warcamps, I really have no reason NOT to use it.

Verdict: I like it.

WRoss
08-13-2011, 10:00 PM
10x perfect maul is the reason you shouldn't be using this. Just saying.

Xorai
08-13-2011, 10:17 PM
10x perfect maul is the reason you shouldn't be using this. Just saying.

Agreed. Callinar has one for sale also.

Khariz
08-13-2011, 11:28 PM
Yeah, but how much does such a thing cost anyway?

Buckwheet
08-13-2011, 11:42 PM
Should be around 75ish would be my guess.

Khariz
08-13-2011, 11:43 PM
Should be around 75ish would be my guess.

Yeah see...at this point in my return, that's too much for my blood. I'd have to sell both the chaos maul and my claidhmore to afford that. I think I'll just keep having fun going nuts with these.

Khariz
08-14-2011, 01:34 AM
Added a War Party Task (http://pastebin.com/E3fknqYC) to the logs.

Khariz
08-14-2011, 01:58 AM
Added Failed Shaman Attempt, but Easy Fry (http://pastebin.com/uRi5Qmj8) to the logs.

and

Succesful Shaman Kill (http://pastebin.com/WQyXsrd6)

WRoss
08-14-2011, 06:36 PM
You could probably make a 10x perfect maul for cheaper than the 95-115m it used to take to make it. The fact is, with your end rolls, the 6% df increase is what would make such a huge difference. That is pre crit assignment...so yeah. You could even get away with a 7-8x one.

waywardgs
08-14-2011, 06:41 PM
You could probably make a 10x perfect maul for cheaper than the 95-115m it used to take to make it. The fact is, with your end rolls, the 6% df increase is what would make such a huge difference. That is pre crit assignment...so yeah. You could even get away with a 7-8x one.

You mean BUY a 10x perfect maul for cheaper, right?

Sam
08-14-2011, 06:54 PM
You mean BUY a 10x perfect maul for cheaper, right?

Well you could make one for a bit cheaper than the 2 that I know of were made, since they were done well before the PP price changes.

I definitely lost money when I sold mine for ~ 80m, but that should be expected with pretty much anything you get PP work on.

Khariz
08-14-2011, 07:07 PM
You could probably make a 10x perfect maul for cheaper than the 95-115m it used to take to make it. The fact is, with your end rolls, the 6% df increase is what would make such a huge difference. That is pre crit assignment...so yeah. You could even get away with a 7-8x one.

I guess my question is WHY would I do that? From the logs you can see that I already face very little danger. I don't need to do a raw 6% additional damage just for the sake of seeing larger numbers.

If my goal is to cause additional critical kills, I can just switch back to my 4x claidhmore and get way more % critical kills than a 10x perfect maul is going to afford me (except for blunt hits on heads and necks). The only time this isn't going to be true is when the perfect combination of 30 point higher endrolls and 6% additional damage meet to push a critical threshold that doesn't get randomized to a death hit via the heavy+ critical weighting on each swing of a claidhmore, which statistically isn't going to be that often.

If we aren't talking about merely criticals and we are comparing only a 10x perfect maul to the chaos maul...sure, there would be a consistently higher (but variable due to the chaos maul swinging at 10x sometimes) endroll and 6% extra damage, but how often does that actually translate to a critical death rather than merely additional damage? Again, setting aside heads and necks...the answer is not all that often. It's certainly not directly proportional to the 6% damage. The answer lies in a percent considerably less than 6%.

If I ever get my hands on a 10x perfect maul, I'll be happy to compare the exact numbers with the chaos maul and a 4x claidhmore, but for now, I'll go with my assumptions and not shell out an additional 100mil to find out. (Realize that I have ran these exact numbers with an 8x maul vs a 4x claidhmore as well as and 8x maul versus a 6x claid-weighted mattock. No the maul wasn't perfect, but it gave me a good idea).

I'm satisified with either/both of the weapons that I currently have. Is that odd for me as a player? Yes, but I don't have 2.5 trillion coins in assets any more to play around with shit, hehe.

Sam
08-14-2011, 07:18 PM
Hey, you don't *need* a 4x claidhmore either buddy!

Khariz
08-14-2011, 09:06 PM
Hey, you don't *need* a 4x claidhmore either buddy!

Yeah, but I've already have one of those. I don't already have a 10x perfect maul!

Donquix
08-14-2011, 11:22 PM
regardless, the chaos maul is way more fun.

COME ON GOOD COLOR COME ON GOOD COLOR....AHH DAMAGE WEIGHTING! WHAMMY!

Khariz
08-15-2011, 12:38 AM
regardless, the chaos maul is way more fun.

COME ON GOOD COLOR COME ON GOOD COLOR....AHH DAMAGE WEIGHTING! WHAMMY!

Exactly.

Added log of Chaos Maul with Futtilo (http://pastebin.com/g81zQBDe)

Khariz
08-15-2011, 09:13 AM
Here's an example of what happens a lot any why I'm not concerned about 10x.

You rage across the battlefield, striking with unrelenting fury!
Your maul turns black!
You swing a black chaos maul at a Grimswarm troll guard!
AS: +595 vs DS: +438 with AvD: +40 + d100 roll: +73 = +270
... and hit for 97 points of damage!
Knocked back several feet by blow to abdomen.
The troll guard is stunned!
Your maul turns blue!
You swing a blue chaos maul at a Grimswarm troll raider!
AS: +600 vs DS: +352 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +62 = +348
... and hit for 165 points of damage!
Incredible smash to what used to be a stomach!
[You have earned 60 recognition points.]
The troll raider falls to the ground and dies.
You swing a blue chaos maul at a Grimswarm troll cleric!
AS: +597 vs DS: +489 with AvD: +44 + d100 roll: +69 = +221
... and hit for 71 points of damage!
Hard hit shatters shield arm.
The troll cleric is stunned!
Your maul turns white!
You swing a white chaos maul at a Grimswarm troll guard!
AS: +592 vs DS: +290 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +57 = +397
... and hit for 191 points of damage!
Massive blow punches a hole through the troll guard's chest!

Edit: Just realized this may be meaningless without context. My 4x weapon AS would be about 550.

BriarFox
08-15-2011, 09:43 AM
If you're thinking about a 10x perfect maul, just spend 15m and get a 7x perfect maul to use for a few and see how you like it.

Khariz
08-16-2011, 04:46 PM
Using a new weapon as my main weapon now, so this thing is up for grabs. Edited the first post to include information and roundabout price if someone wants it. I'm not going to *TRY* to sell it as it's fun, but if someone wants it, I'll part with it.

Also looking for a 10x blessable two-handed sword base, or high enchant (4x+) old style claidhmores in trade (I also have a vultite new-style claid and some silvers if deals need to be made).