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Tendarian
05-24-2004, 05:50 PM
Yanno i always figured if i didnt live in the US i would choose Canada as my second choice. However i enjoy when the mail comes still so since reading this ive decided the UK it is.


Family wants answers after fetus returned in cardboard box
Last Updated Fri, 21 May 2004 4:49:56

THUNDER BAY, ONT. - A Northern Ontario First Nations community says it wants a full investigation into how a hospital allegedly mailed the remains of a miscarried fetus back to the family in a cardboard box.

"I was appalled and upset and disappointed of what had happened to this fetus," North Caribou Lake First Nation Chief Zeb Kenequanash told CBC News Online.

"The mother went hysterical after she found out the unborn child came through the mail."

Kenequanash is calling for a full police investigation and a coroner's inquest into the incident. The family, who live in North Caribou Lake, a remote community hundreds of kilometres northwest of Thunder Bay has also retained a lawyer.

In March, the woman was medevaced to Sioux Lookout hospital, said Kimberly Whetung a senior policy adviser with the Chiefs of Ontario, which represents 134 First Nations across Ontario.

The woman had completed her first trimester but miscarried at the hospital. Because the hospital did not have a pathologist on staff, the fetus was sent to Thunder Bay Regional Health Sciences Centre, Whetung said.

The family requested the fetus be returned to the community. The mother was told that the remains would be taken from the hospital to a funeral home.

Instead, the fetus was sent by Purolator in a cardboard box to the wrong address – a post office in Pickle Lake, a community about 300 kilometres from North Caribou Lake. It was labelled "diagnostic specimen" and "room temperature."

Whetung said the box had been stamped with two addresses, the Pickle Lake address and the family address in North Caribou Lake. The box eventually made its way to the North Caribou Lake post office where it sat for six days.

On May 10, nearly 40 days after the miscarriage, the mother picked up the box.

The box was battered, partially opened and with only one piece of tape around it, Kenequanash said.

Kenequanash said the mother did not know what was in the box when she opened it. He said the fetus was wrapped in plastic in the box and badly decomposed.

Ontario's Health Minister George Smitherman pledged to investigate the incident.

"My immediate reaction was shock and dismay and disgust," Smitherman said.

Smitherman said it his understanding that this is the established protocol for transporting remains because of the transportation challenges in the remote area. But Smitherman said he did not condone the practice.

"I am not expressing confidence that those protocols are appropriate," he said.

Kenequanash said he had never heard of any similar incident like this before.

National Chief of the Assembly of First Nations, Phil Fontaine, said in a statement he was "appalled that such an inhumane action can take place in this day and age."

"I pray this will never happen again to any family, anywhere in Canada."

Late Wednesday night the Thunder Bay Regional Health Sciences Centre issued a news release offering its condolences to the family. It said that since the identity of the family has been released it will now be possible to investigate the situation.

Written by CBC News Online staff

Betheny
05-24-2004, 05:53 PM
Hahahhahhahhahhahhaha.

Stupid Canadians!

Kurapira
05-25-2004, 12:15 AM
Uhm... What exactly is the point here? How are Canadians stupid? I think any one, no matter where you came from.. can be stupid. So, again.. what's the deal?

Tendarian
05-25-2004, 12:23 AM
The point is some lady got her dead decaying fetus in the mail. When i get one in the mail here in MN(which has to be damn close to life in southern canada id assume) then it wont be as funny. Everyone likes to think people in other countries are stupid,thats life. Remember that story about England where people were answering wrong to easy questions and looking stupid? That was funny too. It dont mean everyone there is stupid so quit being so defensive. Yanno i hear about a 10/1 ratio of stupid american jokes to stupid other country jokes. Whats the point of asking whats the point?

Kurapira
05-25-2004, 12:26 AM
The point of asking what the point is, is to only to figure out what your point was. AKA: obviously I didn't see the humor in this, so I was trying to get your point of view.

Also, I wasn't on the defensive. I have no reason to be.. I'm not Canadian.

Tendarian
05-25-2004, 12:29 AM
Its no haha funny i admit. Its OMG how could that happen,thats fucked up funny :)

Snapp
05-25-2004, 12:32 AM
Ew, gross and a half.

Kurapira
05-25-2004, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by Tendarian
Its no haha funny i admit. Its OMG how could that happen,thats fucked up funny :)


Not trying to derail the topic here.. but I'm sure someone will bitch about that I did. :rolleyes: Anyways.. if you find these things "haha, that's fucked up funny." then you would probably enjoy the Nick Berg video.

Tendarian
05-25-2004, 12:46 AM
The difference is that this fetus was already dead. I dont wanna laugh at an innocent man getting his head sawed off. But its the same kind of thing ill give you that.

Xcalibur
05-25-2004, 09:57 AM
We have stories of how dumb AMERICANS are. When anti-American want to laugh of you, they bring the story of the guy that lived 10 years with a doctor's tool inside of his body, a girl that was pregnant and give birth, WITHOUT KNOWING SHE WAS PREGNANT.

And stuff like that.

Since CAnada = 35 million

And

Us = 300 million...

You guys got more idiots than us.

P.S. Ontario folks (most ontarian westerners) are idiots:bleh:

Miss X
05-25-2004, 10:18 AM
I refuse to believe anyone can carry a pregnancy to full term and not know. Those who claim it, in my opinion are in denial.

On topic.... wow thats really bad. I guess things like that could happen anywhere though. There are stupid people everywhere, I have a hard time avoiding them! ;)

Xcalibur
05-25-2004, 10:20 AM
You sure are forgetting an aspect of the USA:

Drugs.

:up:

Skirmisher
05-26-2004, 02:24 AM
They get mail in Canada?

Apathy
05-26-2004, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by Xcalibur
You sure are forgetting an aspect of the USA:

Drugs.

:up:

Just think about all the people we put to work with our drug habit. The growers, the shippers, the cookers, the transporters, the dealers, the doctors, the pharmacists (DWDs or Dealers With Degrees), the police, the DEA, the BATF, the border patrol, all those sniffing dogs, rappers, artists, porn stars, truckers, gang members, my fellow 2nd and 3rd shift zombies, bartenders, professors, students, I forgot what the hell I was talking about.

Xcalibur
05-26-2004, 10:49 AM
That why english sux, too.

Drugs in french = the stuff that is bad for you, pot, crack and stuff

Médicament = good drug (pain killers, bla bla bla)

Booh you, you understood.

Tendarian
05-26-2004, 10:52 AM
Wow no one does any illegal drugs in Canada?

And of course every country has idiots but some countries have a bigger percentage of them :)

Xcalibur
05-26-2004, 10:54 AM
Totaly agree.

Even if we have 25% of idiots while you guys have 10%, you'd win;)


:baa::up::baa:

05-26-2004, 11:06 AM
Well America can kick Canada's ass so neener neener
:grouphug:

Kadumi
05-26-2004, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by The Edine
Well America can kick Canada's ass so neener neener
:grouphug:

oh holy hell that was funny!

Xcalibur
05-26-2004, 11:25 AM
What would be the point of kicking Canada's ass?

Since when kicking your #1 ally is a good thing to do?

:barf:

05-26-2004, 11:26 AM
you mean Great Brittan?

Xcalibur
05-26-2004, 11:32 AM
I mean Canada. Go open up your economical books, Vice-Roy.

:socool:

05-26-2004, 11:33 AM
oh I know your are largest trading parter, all the more reason we should just take you over since we can not tax your imports because of NAFTA

Xcalibur
05-26-2004, 11:38 AM
TRY THEM!
HAHHAHAHA

We have 40,000 soldiers and 10 subs

:socool:

THAT IS SARCASM

05-26-2004, 02:10 PM
Um X, we have 2million soldiers and nukes.

Xcalibur
05-26-2004, 02:29 PM
Nukes us, and the fallout will be all over the US AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

sux to be Canadian...

Latrinsorm
05-26-2004, 02:41 PM
I am positive we have weaponry capable of decimating Canada without harming any (important) parts of the U.S.

05-26-2004, 04:17 PM
America did not devlope the Neutron Bomb for no reason, we had the take over of Canadia on our minds X.
:lol::smilegrin:

05-27-2004, 12:35 PM
It's time to make America Jr. fall!

- Arkans

Xcalibur
05-27-2004, 01:28 PM
Reason?:)

Destroy em all, but leave us there. We enjoy being the Paris and London of America:cool:

Wezas
05-27-2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Xcalibur
Reason?:)

Destroy em all, but leave us there. We enjoy being the Paris and London of America:cool:

Girls with hairy pits, boiled meat, and warm beer?