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Drew
08-03-2011, 01:38 AM
Example:


You search the rolton.
She had nothing of interest.
A rolton decays into a pile of fur and bone.


I get upset by the presumption that my character surverys the genitals of every creature he kills!



Feel free to repeat.

Reltov420
08-03-2011, 01:48 AM
I'd imagine that it's a lot like telling male and female deer apart, or birds, or humans for that matter. It's probably obvious with a lot of creatures.

Donquix
08-03-2011, 02:22 AM
Example:




I get upset by the presumption that my character surverys the genitals of every creature he kills!



Feel free to repeat.

But then how are you going to find the pristine rolton testicles to bring to the questgiver?

Paradii
08-03-2011, 02:47 AM
I'd imagine that it's a lot like telling male and female deer apart, or birds, or humans for that matter. It's probably obvious with a lot of creatures.

ID'ing rodents to sex is not very easy. Rodentia makes up almost half of mammalia.

Thickbeard
08-03-2011, 02:56 AM
Example:




I get upset by the presumption that my character surverys the genitals of every creature he kills!



Feel free to repeat.

I'd be pissed if they didn't presume I look at rolton genitals. :bananahit:

Archigeek
08-03-2011, 03:03 AM
A rolton is not a rodent. Considering how our characters kill thousands of just about everything, we should be able to tell without a second thought don't you think?

msconstrew
08-03-2011, 09:16 AM
A rolton is not a rodent. Considering how our characters kill thousands of just about everything, we should be able to tell without a second thought don't you think?

Yes, especially if the creature is sexually dimorphic.

kookiegod
08-03-2011, 11:33 AM
Y'all frighten me :)

DCSL
08-03-2011, 12:55 PM
I have to say that my character would not be at all surprised that Chiv would look at rolton genitalia.

Fallen
08-03-2011, 01:10 PM
I hate that I am forced to dislike the taste of (most) herbs. There should be a flag where you can toggle the messaging in different ways.

I hate the messaging for all instruments ever, though I think that is more of a 99% of Gemstone type thing.

Asha
08-03-2011, 01:15 PM
Yeah if you mean the music others are playing makes your character feel, then I completely agree with this.

DCSL
08-03-2011, 01:19 PM
I hate that certain retards play the bagpipes or a flute or what have you and talk at the same time.

Latrinsorm
08-03-2011, 01:21 PM
I hate that I am forced to dislike the taste of (most) herbs. There should be a flag where you can toggle the messaging in different ways.I didn't notice your new sig until I read this post. It's pretty fitting, don't you think?

WRoss
08-03-2011, 01:33 PM
There are plenty of rooms which tell me how I feel about certain things. Mostly in the really old CHE houses, but there are some that are around towns as well. YOU DON'T KNOW ME GEMSTONE

Warriorbird
08-03-2011, 02:58 PM
Electric lights. Skating rinks. Zambonis. The removal of things like cashmere and damascened. Fuck that.

DCSL
08-03-2011, 03:08 PM
The unreasonable stance on the Choligate issue.

Fallen
08-03-2011, 03:12 PM
I didn't notice your new sig until I read this post. It's pretty fitting, don't you think?

All hail the Fourth of Lord Aizen's Espada.

Archigeek
08-03-2011, 03:21 PM
House titles like "ambasador" bug me. Ambasador of what? How am I supposed to react to that? House titles make very little sense out of the context of the associated house.

Drew
08-03-2011, 03:24 PM
House titles like "ambasador" bug me. Ambasador of what? How am I supposed to react to that? House titles make very little sense out of the context of the associated house.

I hate house titles period. They've ruined prename titles, and most of them are extremely extremely stupid.

Archigeek
08-03-2011, 03:37 PM
I hate house titles period. They've ruined prename titles, and most of them are extremely extremely stupid.

They make me think of Roundy's grocery store chain and their fearless leader, "Chairman Bob". Ok Bob, if you say so it must be so, because you're the chairman.

I like the concept of giving house officers a perk, but I agree, house titles make very little sense.

DCSL
08-03-2011, 03:50 PM
House titles seem to be a way for certain house officers to get the prename title they've always wanted, nevermind if it makes any sense whatsoever. I refuse to acknowledge them. In that vein, though, my character can't tell someone is a "watcher" or a "rock collector" either so I ignore those postname titles too.

msconstrew
08-03-2011, 03:53 PM
House titles seem to be a way for certain house officers to get the prename title they've always wanted, nevermind if it makes any sense whatsoever. I refuse to acknowledge them. In that vein, though, my character can't tell someone is a "watcher" or a "rock collector" either so I ignore those postname titles too.

Agreed. I don't even know what the level differentiations between Lady/High Lady/Super Grand High Lady/etc are anyway. It's ultimately just more shit to clutter my screen and distract me.

Ausek
08-03-2011, 03:56 PM
Lady/High Lady/Super Grand High Lady/etc


Lady = 20
Grand Lady = 40
High Lady = 70
Grand High Lady = 100 (I think)

Ausek
08-03-2011, 04:03 PM
I know that, I was trying to be a smartass. I failed.

Donquix
08-03-2011, 04:04 PM
0 Novice
3 Apprentice
10 Journeyman / Journeywoman
20 Lord / Lady
40 Great Lord / Great Lady
70 High Lord / High Lady
100 Grand Lord / Grand Lady

and wasn't there another one for the people that got busted down to level 100 when the level cap was implemented?

msconstrew
08-03-2011, 04:04 PM
Lady = 20
Grand Lady = 40
High Lady = 70
Grand High Lady = 100 (I think)

The point was that I don't actually care. I guess it didn't come through clearly enough.

Latrinsorm
08-03-2011, 04:08 PM
0 Novice
3 Apprentice
10 Journeyman / Journeywoman
20 Lord / Lady
40 Great Lord / Great Lady
70 High Lord / High Lady
100 Grand Lord / Grand Lady

and wasn't there another one for the people that got busted down to level 100 when the level cap was implemented?By process of elimination, Super Grand High Lord / Super Grand High Lady. :|

Donquix
08-03-2011, 04:10 PM
By process of elimination, Super Grand High Lord / Super Grand High Lady. :|

Super Duper Grand High Lady of Amazingness Francene, the incredibly amazing ambassador of winning

MotleyCrew
08-03-2011, 04:11 PM
Renowned Lord/Lady

Esteemed

Latrinsorm
08-03-2011, 04:12 PM
I never thought about it, but it makes sense: there can't possibly be an italicized |, it would just be a /.

DCSL
08-03-2011, 04:17 PM
I never thought about it, but it makes sense: there can't possibly be an italicized |, it would just be a /.

That occurred to me too, reading where you were quoted above. Made my day just a little more geeky and non-essential.

Donquix
08-03-2011, 04:21 PM
I never thought about it, but it makes sense: there can't possibly be an italicized |, it would just be a /.

_ \ | / becomes \ | / _

Lets make it happen.

4a6c1
08-03-2011, 04:44 PM
How 'bout "slanty line here, you decide what kind"

Paradii
08-03-2011, 08:12 PM
A rolton is not a rodent. Considering how our characters kill thousands of just about everything, we should be able to tell without a second thought don't you think?

My post wasn't clear. I didn't mean to assume that a Rolton was a rodent. I was commenting on the second poster's claim that most animals are easily distinguished to sex, when in actuality, most are not. I should L2Q.

Latrinsorm
08-04-2011, 11:54 AM
I'll say.

<< My post wasn't clear. I didn't mean to assume that a Rolton was a rodent. I was commenting on the second poster's claim that most animals are easily distinguished to sex, when in actuality, most are not. I should L2Q. >>

Ruabadra
08-04-2011, 05:21 PM
My post wasn't clear. I didn't mean to assume that a Rolton was a rodent. I was commenting on the second poster's claim that most animals are easily distinguished to sex, when in actuality, most are not. I should L2Q.

Have y'all ever seen rodent balls? If a squirrel or a mouse rolls over on its back, and it's a male, trust me, you will definitely know. No, I will not comment on how I know this . . . ;)

Warriorbird
08-04-2011, 05:32 PM
Have y'all ever seen rodent balls? If a squirrel or a mouse rolls over on its back, and it's a male, trust me, you will definitely know. No, I will not comment on how I know this . . . ;)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pqOBRLICPOk/SFwofFN8pxI/AAAAAAAACgs/5lKgQAQeSyU/s400/gere.jpg

Tgo01
08-04-2011, 06:42 PM
I get upset by the presumption that my character surverys the genitals of every creature he kills!

What about the fact that your character even bothers to search animals to see if they carried 'anything of interest'? It would take me all of one second to determine what a rat is carrying.

DCSL
08-04-2011, 07:03 PM
What about the fact that your character even bothers to search animals to see if they carried 'anything of interest'? It would take me all of one second to determine what a rat is carrying.

Hey, you can't tell from a glance what they might be carrying in "nature's pocket." You have to search.

Fallen
08-04-2011, 07:06 PM
What about the fact that your character even bothers to search animals to see if they carried 'anything of interest'? It would take me all of one second to determine what a rat is carrying.

I used to not bother to search rats back in the day because I knew I would get the experience when they decayed. People got very, very upset.

Donquix
08-04-2011, 07:18 PM
What about the fact that your character even bothers to search animals to see if they carried 'anything of interest'? It would take me all of one second to determine what a rat is carrying.

In gemstone it takes 0 seconds.

Your gemstone self is much more efficient.

Asrial
08-05-2011, 03:50 AM
I always bring up this one...

[Blue Glacier, Mountain Pass]
Ahead of you a mammoth rockslide has blocked the way. You study the steep mountain slopes around you and wish, not for the first time, that you were part goat.
Obvious paths: southwest

The trail to Icemule is littered with stuff like that.

leifastagsweed
08-05-2011, 12:22 PM
Castle Darkstone messages tell you how to feel constantly and with much overkill.

Also, here is a handy diagram that should help those of you unfamiliar with rolton anatomy:

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6803/roltonjoke.jpg

ganf
08-05-2011, 12:24 PM
I always bring up this one...

[Blue Glacier, Mountain Pass]
Ahead of you a mammoth rockslide has blocked the way. You study the steep mountain slopes around you and wish, not for the first time, that you were part goat.
Obvious paths: southwest

The trail to Icemule is littered with stuff like that.

Sooo...... Are they wrong? You ever trekked up a snowy mountainside? Lived in them half my life. Dreaming you could do things as demonstrated below starts in about the first 5 minutes.

http://www.rxbbx.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/goat_tree_argan_climbing_morocco.jpg

http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/crazy-climbing-goat.jpg

http://do-while.com/img/misc/goat-climbing/goat-climbing26.jpg

And for good measure, a nice collection. (http://do-while.com/crazy-goat-climbing/)

Goats are fucking crazy. My sister in law had an ewe whose head was about knee-high that they could not, by any means, keep behind a fence, no matter how high or well built. She would get out and gobble everything in sight, which led to her being pop-bellied fat, which didn't slow her down in the least. Only goat I've seen ninja kick a donkey in the jaw to steal it's food too.

The pig was her best friend. Best friend in that she would escape her pen and go stand on him. Just stand on him for hours....

ganf
08-05-2011, 12:34 PM
I understand that people get fussy about metaemotions in descriptions, but sometimes I think they're griping just out of habit...

I've seen some really well written descriptions (Not saying in GS, truth be told I hardly read them anymore, got tired of that in the 90's) that impressed reactions and emotions onto my character and honestly felt that they would've been less impressive without them. If you have a really good descriptive writer doing rooms who can make scenery seem an integral part of the storyline... YOUR storyline, even though it's just basically backdrop in the end, taking those moments out of their work makes it rather hollow.

Again, not saying that GS's instances of this qualify, just saying that instead of objecting to it out of hand as a general principle, it might be a better idea to object to it because it was done poorly. Or I might be an obnoxious :monkey: brained twit.

Warriorbird
08-05-2011, 12:45 PM
I understand that people get fussy about metaemotions in descriptions, but sometimes I think they're griping just out of habit...

I've seen some really well written descriptions (Not saying in GS, truth be told I hardly read them anymore, got tired of that in the 90's) that impressed reactions and emotions onto my character and honestly felt that they would've been less impressive without them. If you have a really good descriptive writer doing rooms who can make scenery seem an integral part of the storyline... YOUR storyline, even though it's just basically backdrop in the end, taking those moments out of their work makes it rather hollow.

Again, not saying that GS's instances of this qualify, just saying that instead of objecting to it out of hand as a general principle, it might be a better idea to object to it because it was done poorly. Or I might be an obnoxious :monkey: brained twit.

Most of us got tired of them in the 90s too, thus being told what to feel gets annoying. But rewriting rooms SHOULD NEVER BE DONNNE. Ridiculous.

Latrinsorm
08-05-2011, 12:57 PM
I understand that people get fussy about metaemotions in descriptions, but sometimes I think they're griping just out of habit...

I've seen some really well written descriptions (Not saying in GS, truth be told I hardly read them anymore, got tired of that in the 90's) that impressed reactions and emotions onto my character and honestly felt that they would've been less impressive without them. If you have a really good descriptive writer doing rooms who can make scenery seem an integral part of the storyline... YOUR storyline, even though it's just basically backdrop in the end, taking those moments out of their work makes it rather hollow.

Again, not saying that GS's instances of this qualify, just saying that instead of objecting to it out of hand as a general principle, it might be a better idea to object to it because it was done poorly. Or I might be an obnoxious :monkey: brained twit.It's a crutch, though, like a laugh track in a sitcom. It's no coincidence that comedies without one tend to be funnier. When I write rooms I want to let my artistry do the convincing, not come at it like a rhino, and if anyone thinks writing text rooms isn't art they should be advised that there's nothing more serious than a rhino about to charge their ass.

Donquix
08-05-2011, 12:59 PM
It never bothered me. I consider things like item and room descriptions in game to be directed at me, the player, not the character. Then it's my job to decide how my character reacts. Giving feelings like that, while on the lazy end of narration, is succinct and effective when the exact particulars of the room/item are inconsequential.

I always felt the same about items like "elven runes of death." ok, now I the player know what they were going for, but it's my decision whether or not my dumb, uneducated half-krolvin warrior knows how to read elven runes or not.

Rinualdo
08-05-2011, 01:01 PM
Wait, people actually read room descriptions in GS?

Fallen
08-05-2011, 01:03 PM
One of the worst is that room in Teras where you mistake that cat (or whatever) for a rat....all 762 times you've entered that room.

Donquix
08-05-2011, 01:11 PM
One of the worst is that room in Teras where you mistake that cat (or whatever) for a rat....all 762 times you've entered that room.

Or the 30 million rooms where you have to search for a path/door/crevice you've been through 5,000 times, the most recent of which was 8 minutes ago on your last hunt.

ganf
08-05-2011, 01:33 PM
It never bothered me. I consider things like item and room descriptions in game to be directed at me, the player, not the character. Then it's my job to decide how my character reacts. Giving feelings like that, while on the lazy end of narration, is succinct and effective when the exact particulars of the room/item are inconsequential.

I always felt the same about items like "elven runes of death." ok, now I the player know what they were going for, but it's my decision whether or not my dumb, uneducated half-krolvin warrior knows how to read elven runes or not.

It can be lazy, or it can be efficient. Picking out details in a 500 word room description gets old quick.

I reiterate. It just has to be done right, and there is only right and balls'ed up beyond belief when it comes to this subject in my opinion.

ganf
08-05-2011, 01:35 PM
Or the 30 million rooms where you have to search for a path/door/crevice you've been through 5,000 times, the most recent of which was 8 minutes ago on your last hunt.

Agreed. Once found it should stay found. With the rare exception of things like trails in snow-blown areas and such where the path/whatever can be easily obscured by the elements.

DCSL
08-05-2011, 01:36 PM
I understand that people get fussy about metaemotions in descriptions, but sometimes I think they're griping just out of habit...

I've seen some really well written descriptions (Not saying in GS, truth be told I hardly read them anymore, got tired of that in the 90's) that impressed reactions and emotions onto my character and honestly felt that they would've been less impressive without them. If you have a really good descriptive writer doing rooms who can make scenery seem an integral part of the storyline... YOUR storyline, even though it's just basically backdrop in the end, taking those moments out of their work makes it rather hollow.

Again, not saying that GS's instances of this qualify, just saying that instead of objecting to it out of hand as a general principle, it might be a better idea to object to it because it was done poorly. Or I might be an obnoxious :monkey: brained twit.

I think you're entirely missing the point of this thread. These are super RPer asinine complaints. This is for us to complain about incredibly inconsequential minutiae.

Warriorbird
08-05-2011, 01:40 PM
I think you're entirely missing the point of this thread. These are super RPer asinine complaints. This is for us to complain about incredibly inconsequential minutiae.

NOOO! It's for him to claim to be Showal!

DCSL
08-05-2011, 01:54 PM
NOOO! It's for him to claim to be Showal!

He better be driving a Jeep Patriot, then.

ganf
08-05-2011, 01:56 PM
You're right DCSL. I noticed this topic of metaemotion in another thread that either died off or hasn't passed my limited scope of observation since and continued the conversation I had going with myself in it.

Yay for egocentricity!

Drew
08-05-2011, 04:16 PM
I always bring up this one...

[Blue Glacier, Mountain Pass]
Ahead of you a mammoth rockslide has blocked the way. You study the steep mountain slopes around you and wish, not for the first time, that you were part goat.
Obvious paths: southwest

The trail to Icemule is littered with stuff like that.

My friend and I have an inside joke where we send each other this snippet: "What you wouldn't give for a hot bath, a good meal, and a tankard of mulled wine!"

It's on the Icemule Trail in one of the slippy rooms and has always bugged us.



One of the worst is that room in Teras where you mistake that cat (or whatever) for a rat....all 762 times you've entered that room.


There's a room near Melgorhan's (sp?) Reach where a hawk flies overhead. That hawk has been circling for twenty years now.

Tgo01
08-05-2011, 05:17 PM
There's a room near Melgorhan's (sp?) Reach where a hawk flies overhead. That hawk has been circling for twenty years now.

There is also a messenger in a room description in Icemule, I think whoever was waiting for that message has died years ago.

Drew
08-05-2011, 05:49 PM
There is also a messenger in a room description in Icemule, I think whoever was waiting for that message has died years ago.

Yep I know exactly what you're talking about. I don't mind descriptions like "people run to and fro on their business" in room descriptions because that just establishes the general "traveled-ness" of the room, but I don't like it when they get specific like that.

Tolwynn
08-05-2011, 05:52 PM
Things like that should have been made into randomly firing or timed scripts instead of being painted into the room descriptions, if anything.

Drew
08-05-2011, 06:05 PM
Things like that should have been made into randomly firing or timed scripts instead of being painted into the room descriptions, if anything.

Yeah most of this stuff came before lazy scripts.

Stanley Burrell
08-06-2011, 02:47 AM
I stopped playing GS because no one wanted to furry RP with me and hypnolactate yiff with my tremendous pulsating rolton dong of greater hairiness.

But yes, when I am tasked to hunt down a particularly dangerous rolton the messaging is frustrating because I FUCKING KNOW it has an extra pair of testicles and/or ovaries.

I really need to go to sleep, bye.

Drevihyin
08-06-2011, 03:58 AM
Common Rolton

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/riverduck/11017.jpg

Zombie Rolton

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/riverduck/11163.jpg


Particularly Dangerous Rolton after removal...


http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/riverduck/imagesCANZ53UH.jpg


http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/riverduck/imagesCA6NGTU5.jpg

Asrial
08-06-2011, 06:49 AM
My friend and I have an inside joke where we send each other this snippet: "What you wouldn't give for a hot bath, a good meal, and a tankard of mulled wine!"I always think to myself on these (this stuff doesn't bug me.. it's like DCSL said that it's just little things that you contemplate in passing).. "what if this time I want a COLD bath, a BAD meal, and some stale water?!"

Apathy
08-06-2011, 10:31 AM
How 'bout "slanty line here, you decide what kind"

For some reason this post struck me as very racist.

4a6c1
08-06-2011, 02:28 PM
Absolutely. And why shouldn't it be? Every sentence should be given the opportunity to be racist.

Cephalopod
08-06-2011, 10:33 PM
INVASION!
http://www.pulsarmedia.eu/data/media/1053/Shaun%20The%20Sheep%206.jpg

Merala
08-06-2011, 11:35 PM
After a bandit slices my vocal cords:

!R>111
All you manage to do is cough up some blood.
!>cure neck
All you manage to do is cough up some blood.
!>roll eyes
You roll your eyes.
!>
You begin to feel a little better.
!>
You feel at full magical power again.
!>prep 1104
!>
All you manage to do is cough up some blood.

Yet, I can still manage to heal myself just fine with a completely missing/broken/mutilated neck.

BriarFox
08-06-2011, 11:36 PM
The empath circle, including offensive spells, can always be cast through wounds. It's just a necessity of its design.

Tgo01
08-06-2011, 11:45 PM
The empath circle, including offensive spells, can always be cast through wounds. It's just a necessity of its design.

Yes but it is silly that you can have no limbs, no eyes, be bleeding from the ears, chest, abs and back and heal yourself just fine, but someone garrotes you and suddenly all you can do is cough up blood.

Merala
08-06-2011, 11:47 PM
The empath circle, including offensive spells, can always be cast through wounds. It's just a necessity of its design.

Unless you have your vocal cords sliced.

Tolwynn
08-06-2011, 11:50 PM
Ranks right up there with CMAN pokes, pinches and tweaks able to lock down a character longer than them having limbs lopped off or being transfixed by a lance.

The Three Stooges would be able to stride the lands of Elanthia as colossi, crushing all who dared cross their paths.

Drew
08-07-2011, 12:02 AM
Handing it to you carefully, a sales clerk says, "Here's your girl. Hope you enjoy it."

Is this the bathhouse merchant?

BriarFox
08-07-2011, 12:05 AM
Unless you have your vocal cords sliced.

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. Yeah, that is stupid.

Warriorbird
08-07-2011, 05:22 PM
I stopped playing GS because no one wanted to furry RP with me and hypnolactate yiff with my tremendous pulsating rolton dong of greater hairiness.

But yes, when I am tasked to hunt down a particularly dangerous rolton the messaging is frustrating because I FUCKING KNOW it has an extra pair of testicles and/or ovaries.

I really need to go to sleep, bye.

http://tehresistance.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/4assed_monkey.gif

Drew
08-07-2011, 06:01 PM
House titles seem to be a way for certain house officers to get the prename title they've always wanted, nevermind if it makes any sense whatsoever.

Also here: Willow Guardian Ranpalandil


Let me say it again: I hate house prenames so much.

TheEschaton
08-07-2011, 06:15 PM
What exactly is involved in being the guardian of a willow?

SayGoodbye
08-07-2011, 07:35 PM
He's the head of Willow Hall.

Drew
08-07-2011, 09:54 PM
He's the head of Willow Hall.

This quote continues to apply:



House titles seem to be a way for certain house officers to get the prename title they've always wanted

AnticorRifling
08-08-2011, 08:29 AM
What exactly is involved in being the guardian of a willow?

Ask Val Kilmer.

Paradii
08-08-2011, 12:24 PM
Ask Val Kilmer.

ten points.

Asha
08-08-2011, 12:30 PM
Ask Val Kilmer.

Sigh.
I have no more rep for you at this time, so I'll just say well played Sir. well played.

Elvenlady
08-08-2011, 02:40 PM
Sigh.
I have no more rep for you at this time, so I'll just say well played Sir. well played.

Then allow me to do so on your behalf because I'm nice like that.

Asha
08-08-2011, 03:08 PM
Then allow me to do so on your behalf because I'm nice like that.

Well played Sir. Well played.

Taernath
08-09-2011, 12:47 PM
You remove a shot of whiskey from in your leather rucksack.
s>drink whisk
You take a drink from your shot of whiskey.
s>drink whisk
You take a drink from your shot of whiskey.
Nice.
s>drink whisk
You take a drink from your shot of whiskey.
s>drink whisk
You take a drink from your shot of whiskey.
Ah! Refreshing, indeed!
s>drink whisk
You take a drink from your shot of whiskey.
s>drink whisk
You take a drink from your shot of whiskey.
Mmmmmm...that hit the spot.
You have only one sip left.
s>drink whisk
You take a drink from your shot of whiskey.
Mmmmmm...that hit the spot.
That was the last drop.


I'm such a pussy.

Stry
08-09-2011, 02:00 PM
Hey, for a gnome, that's a LOT of whiskey! ;)

Warriorbird
08-09-2011, 08:43 PM
I miss "Thoughts on Roleplaying" being a serious business folder.