Orlando parents murdered with hammer, followed by a party

[Jayvn]

http://www.wesh.com/news/28585490/detail.html

is it terrible that my first question was did he play "Can't touch this" at the party? hammertime...

[Jayvn]

(CNN) -- A Florida teen bludgeoned his parents to death with a hammer, stashed their bodies in a bedroom, then hosted dozens of people for a house party, police said Monday.

Tyler Hadley, 17, is in police custody, booked just before 5 p.m. Monday on two counts of second-degree murder with a weapon, according to the St. Lucie County Sheriff's website. Port St. Lucie Police spokesman Tom Nichols told reporters earlier that the teenage boy, who will be tried as an adult, was denied bond.

Around 1:30 p.m. Saturday, Port St. Lucie Police Capt. Don Kryak said Hadley posted an invitation on Facebook, inviting friends to a party at his house.

Sometime after that, police said he used a 22-inch framing hammer to fatally beat his parents -- Blake and Mary-Jo Hadley -- in the head and torso outside their master bedroom door of their Port St. Lucie home. He then dragged them inside the room and used "books, files, towels, anything that he could find inside the home to cover the bodies," Nichols said.

Then, the teenager proceeded to party.

Between 40 and 60 people turned up sometime after 9 p.m., according to police. Nichols said that "during the party and after the party, there was a rumor that perhaps Tyler had killed his parents." But, while saying police wanted to talk to more partygoers, he did not indicate if anyone else saw the dead couple's bodies locked in the master bedroom.

Police became involved after getting an anonymous tip, which led them to conduct a welfare check at the house around 4:20 a.m. Sunday.

Kryak said Tyler Hadley appeared "nervous" when law enforcement officers arrived, telling them his parents were out of town. They eventually found the alleged murder weapon lying between his parents' bodies.

"The crime scene was certainly a merciless killing," the police captain said. "It was brutal."

Autopsies are being conducted on Blake and Mary-Jo Hadley, though police repeated that they believe both died from "blunt force trauma."

Tyler Hadley had dropped out of St. Lucie Centennial West High School and later took classes at Indian River State College, Kryak said.

Nichols said police do not know why the teen, who has made "no incriminating statements," may have killed his parents. There are no plans to charge anyone else in connection with the pair's deaths.

"I've known Mary-Jo since she was in high school in Fort Lauderdale," Charlene Moses, a family friend, told CNN-affiliate WPTV. "They are a nice family. The kids are always nice."

Copyright CNN 2011

[phantasm]

If my children drop out of school, they are also moving out of my house.

[CrystalTears]

A location in Florida != Orlando or Miami. However now I hesitate returning to that state.

And why don't we ever hear, "yeah we should have seen that coming, those people are crazy". They are always nice neighbors. People don't know their neighbors anymore.

[Parkbandit]

Parents: "No, you cannot have a party tonight"
Kid: "Wanna bet?"

[Geshron]

Parents: "No, you cannot have a party tonight"
Kid: "Wanna bet?"

lol, this.

[subzero]

And why don't we ever hear, "yeah we should have seen that coming, those people are crazy". They are always nice neighbors. People don't know their neighbors anymore.

Might be that it's easier to get close to victims if you're a nice guy rather than an obviously deranged psychopath?

[CrystalTears]

Might be that it's easier to get close to victims if you're a nice guy rather than an obviously deranged psychopath?
Who said anything about being close? I said "know your neighbors". I know my neighbor, and she's a raging bitch and I didn't have to get "close" to know that.

[subzero]

Who said anything about being close? I said "know your neighbors". I know my neighbor, and she's a raging bitch and I didn't have to get "close" to know that.

I'm talkin proximity. Most people aren't rocking sniper rifles from towers to kill you. You can think you know people all you want, but you said it yourself. Everyone always thinks people are nice people until they wind up hacking someone's head off. Simply being fucked up in the head doesn't mean these people are stupid. Their game is made easier by them being nice, polite, upstanding people that no one suspects could or would harm anything rather than having to resort to the caveman tactic of street clubbings.

[CrystalTears]

So are you saying that generally people who perform such vicious acts never show any signs of any abnormality or unbalance? Are completely social, nice people then snap? This is the general rule?

All I'm saying is that people don't pay attention to other people's behaviors because they don't care about anything beyond their own personal bubble. No one is aware of what kind of people their neighbors are anymore in any sense of the word. And it seems the bigger the city, the less possible that likelihood is.

A year ago my neighbor across the street had a fire in their home and we weren't surprised. They were loud and inconsiderate neighbors. Not surprised to know irresponsible was a trait as well.

[Bobmuhthol]

I'm glad that people don't pay attention to me. I like to think of it as respecting my privacy more so than dangerous neglect.

[Tgo01]

If the parents didn't see signs that their kid was going to murder them so he could throw a party the chances are pretty slim that the neighbors would have noticed anything.

[CrystalTears]

It was a general observation, not so much specifically with this case.

Moving on.

[Latrinsorm]

I remember hearing somewhere that teenagers, as a rule, have poorer impulse control compared to adults simply due to brain chemistry. If true, this would explain the observations made in cases like these. As adults, we're used to the idea that a generally nice person doesn't do mean, vicious, abhorrent things. We might even go so far as to say that's kind of the definition, but this definition might not be applicable to people without impulse control. Such people could do all the same things as a generally nice person up until the point where they beat you to death with a hammer, and most importantly do all the same things for the same reasons, not as a mask, hustle, snare, imitation. The cognitive part, the generally nice part, simply doesn't have the ability to restrain the impulsive part in that instant. There are no signs for murderous impulses, or perhaps there are signs for murderous impulse in all of us, so there's nothing a neighbor could have noticed as out of the ordinary.

This is why it's important to restrict teenagers' access to certain things, like alcohol, firearms, cars: anything that further compromises their ability to control impulse or exacerbates the consequences of losing control. Why else would we bother with those restrictions?

[DeV]

Hammered before the party even started. This is really unfortunate. In other news, his use of a hammer just may have averted a potential gun control debate.

Mental illness is a family affair and whether families ignore the signs or not... eventually somethings got to give.

[Tgo01]

This is why it's important to restrict teenagers' access to certain things, like alcohol, firearms, cars: anything that further compromises their ability to control impulse or exacerbates the consequences of losing control. Why else would we bother with those restrictions?

And hammers.

[Liagala]

I remember hearing somewhere that teenagers, as a rule, have poorer impulse control compared to adults simply due to brain chemistry. If true, this would explain the observations made in cases like these. As adults, we're used to the idea that a generally nice person doesn't do mean, vicious, abhorrent things. We might even go so far as to say that's kind of the definition, but this definition might not be applicable to people without impulse control. Such people could do all the same things as a generally nice person up until the point where they beat you to death with a hammer, and most importantly do all the same things for the same reasons, not as a mask, hustle, snare, imitation. The cognitive part, the generally nice part, simply doesn't have the ability to restrain the impulsive part in that instant. There are no signs for murderous impulses, or perhaps there are signs for murderous impulse in all of us, so there's nothing a neighbor could have noticed as out of the ordinary.

This is why it's important to restrict teenagers' access to certain things, like alcohol, firearms, cars: anything that further compromises their ability to control impulse or exacerbates the consequences of losing control. Why else would we bother with those restrictions?
Are you being a little too subtle with your sarcasm, or are you actually arguing that teenagers are biologically programmed to have so little impulse control that a situation like this could happen with an otherwise ordinary, well-adjusted kid?

[Parkbandit]

In other news, his use of a hammer just may have averted a potential gun control debate.


This. I'm still waiting for the "We need tool control!" and "Hammers don't kill people, people kill people" signs.

[diethx]

Hammered before the party even started.

Okay, that was pretty hilarious.

[Latrinsorm]

Are you being a little too subtle with your sarcasm, or are you actually arguing that teenagers are biologically programmed to have so little impulse control that a situation like this could happen with an otherwise ordinary, well-adjusted kid?I would argue that a situation like this could happen with any otherwise ordinary, well-adjusted person. Teenagers (generally) having a biological impulse control issue just makes it much more likely for it to happen with them.

Good people do terrible things sometimes, because people are not rational beings. The extent to which our rational selves are in control of anything in the world is vastly overestimated in our culture.

[AnticorRifling]

I don't think you understand what well-adjusted means if you're thinking a well-adjusted person would beat his/her parents to death con hammer. Not to mention beat them to death, throw them in a room, and then throw a party in das same house.

[Parkbandit]

I would argue that a situation like this could happen with any otherwise ordinary, well-adjusted person. Teenagers (generally) having a biological impulse control issue just makes it much more likely for it to happen with them.

Good people do terrible things sometimes, because people are not rational beings. The extent to which our rational selves are in control of anything in the world is vastly overestimated in our culture.

So, in your mind.. a well-adjusted, otherwise ordinary teenager could take a hammer and repeatedly smash his mother and father in the face until they were dead?

Riiiight.

[Parkbandit]

I don't think you understand what well-adjusted means if you're thinking a well-adjusted person would beat his/her parents to death con hammer. Not to mention beat them to death, throw them in a room, and then throw a party in das same house.

Fuck you and your fast typing sausage fingers.

[TheEschaton]

Is it horrible that I read the title and started singing "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" under my breath like a psycho?

Bang bang Maxwell's silver hammer, came down, on her head (do do dooo do)...

[Vindicate]

Only horrible if you think of Steve Martin singing it.

[Latrinsorm]

I don't think you understand what well-adjusted means if you're thinking a well-adjusted person would beat his/her parents to death con hammer. Not to mention beat them to death, throw them in a room, and then throw a party in das same house.I think my explanation is more consistent with the evidence than any other.

[subzero]

So are you saying that generally people who perform such vicious acts never show any signs of any abnormality or unbalance? Are completely social, nice people then snap? This is the general rule?

I'm saying that you probably don't know your neighbors as well as you think you do. Mere observation as a neighbor isn't going to necessarily provide the insight required to see situations like these coming. This particular case is a rather striking example of that. His own parents didn't see it coming. Neighbors? Heh.


"We need tool control!"

Buy a condom.

[phantasm]

Would this story resonate any differently if the kid had killed his neighbors, shoved them in a room and thrown a party at their house?

[Liagala]

Would this story resonate any differently if the kid had killed his neighbors, shoved them in a room and thrown a party at their house?
It would still be seriously fucked up, but at least your neighbors aren't your family.

[Drisco]

Parents: "No, you cannot have a party tonight"
Kid: "Wanna bet?"

I also lol'd


Hammered before the party even started.

And at this one :(

[AnticorRifling]

I think my explanation is more consistent with the evidence than any other.

Assumptions aren't evidence.

We don't know if the parents saw warning signs and ignored them. "Not my kid, he's a rock star". We do know that the "news" likes to pick the local yokel to interview for shit like this "Well we was just eatin chicken skin from the KFC dumpster when we heard the screams. I said Becky Sue I bet my mullet that good, quiet kid done did somethin".

[Parkbandit]

LOL @ chicken skin.

[Cephalopod]

LOL @ chicken skin.

That shit's delicious, yo.

[Showal]

Assumptions aren't evidence.

We don't know if the parents saw warning signs and ignored them. "Not my kid, he's a rock star". We do know that the "news" likes to pick the local yokel to interview for shit like this "Well we was just eatin chicken skin from the KFC dumpster when we heard the screams. I said Becky Sue I bet my mullet that good, quiet kid done did somethin".

I hate the people that the news picks to interview for these stories. They generally don't tell anything and they don't add anything to the story, whatsoever.

You'll have a story about a house fire and then they'll turn to someone who will say something stupid like "I was in my house and then I saw fire trucks and their house was on fire".

The ONLY time I've seen a worthwhile interview was Antoine Dodson.

[diethx]

The ONLY time I've seen a worthwhile interview was Antoine Dodson.

I really want this (http://www.districtlines.com/21130-Hide-Yo-Kids-Mug-Accessory/antoine-Dodson-bed-intruder).

[Stanley Burrell]

17 isn't a juvenile, unless it's compiled with other juvenile case #s. Then you're just looking for patterns in school crap for repeat offenders. Sometimes I get a welfare check confused with welfare fraud, but the code # makes me be all, "Oh."

^ stellar contribution.

[4a6c1]

I hope this teaches a lesson to all of you who were for the deregulation of large hammers. Hammers off the streets!!! That's what I always say!

What a shame. Could have been prevented.

[NocturnalRob]

Parents: "No, you cannot have a party tonight"
SHOWS WHAT YOUR KNOW!!

[Bobmuhthol]

What a shame. Could have been prevented.

Every intentional tort can be prevented.

/TheE

[Gan]

Especially if you ask nicely.