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MaryJane
05-19-2004, 09:21 PM
Anyone see anything majorly wrong with this training for a swinging empath:

(at level 46)

Armor Use..........................| 6
Shield Use.........................| 48
Edged Weapons......................| 48
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 5
Physical Fitness...................| 30
Arcane Symbols.....................| 30
Magic Item Use.....................| 30
Spell Aiming.......................| 48
Harness Power......................| 48
Mental Mana Control................| 7
Spirit Mana Control................| 7
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 21
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 48
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 18
Survival...........................| 27
Perception.........................| 27
Climbing...........................| 20
Swimming...........................| 20
First Aid..........................| 92

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 25

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 30

Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 46

Mana share is low because I just recently started training in it. Telepathy is for the use of 1108 rather than 215. Also works good with 110. I currently don't plan on training in major/minor anymore, unless points allow in the future.

Sean
05-19-2004, 09:22 PM
What good is 1x spell aim?

Soulpieced
05-19-2004, 09:27 PM
What good are empaths?

Sean
05-19-2004, 09:28 PM
Touche.

Snapp
05-19-2004, 09:35 PM
If you're a swinging empath, why the mental mana share? Agree with Tijay on the spell aim.. 2x or nothing. :)

MaryJane
05-19-2004, 09:39 PM
I don't know why! Don't I need it.. to share.. mana?

Kitsun
05-19-2004, 11:17 PM
Spell Aiming would be for bolt spells...and for empaths that would be 111 and thats it... unless you are in the habit of waving around wizard wands or something.

I concur with the above:
Spell Aiming 2x or None
Ditch Mental Mana Share

Might want to consider picking up some more Harness Power with the points.

TheEschaton
05-20-2004, 12:18 AM
If you want to be a good swinging empath, you gotta sacrifice a few things. My empath singles in two handed weapons, and CM. He also has more armor use than you at half the trains.

The trade offs? No lores. Straight up 2x spells, no tripling. FA at 2x instead of 3. No survival, but he actually manages to 2x spell aim. Less MIU and AS.

The part I'd be concerned about is this:
Armor Use..........................| 6
Shield Use.........................| 48
Edged Weapons......................| 48
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 5
Physical Fitness...................| 30

Armor use needs to be higher for a swinging empath. PT should be 1x. And, I'd personally, at the very least, trade in MOC for CM.

This is my empath at 22:

(at level 22), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 40 8
Combat Maneuvers...................| 99 23
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 99 23
Physical Fitness...................| 99 23
Arcane Symbols.....................| 35 7
Magic Item Use.....................| 30 6
Spell Aiming.......................| 147 47
Harness Power......................| 99 23
Spirit Mana Control................| 102 24
Climbing...........................| 25 5
Swimming...........................| 5 1
First Aid..........................| 146 46

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 16

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 11

Spell Lists
Empath.............................| 19

Edited to add: I just trained, I forgot I was 22.

Edited further to add: And if you have doubts....my empath kicks ass.

-TheE-

[Edited on 5-20-2004 by TheEschaton]

[Edited on 5-20-2004 by TheEschaton]

Drew2
05-20-2004, 12:29 AM
I can kill about 3 things in the time it takes a swinging empath to kill 1.

Way to be a stupid empath.

Xcalibur
05-20-2004, 12:30 AM
Bellow 30 trains, every profession singling cm and 2 handed can kick ass.

But without haste, booh...

:offtopic:

Empath are for females

Drew2
05-20-2004, 12:31 AM
Canada is for retards.

Snapp
05-20-2004, 12:33 AM
I like that TheE, very unique. I might use some parts of that for my baby empath (Snapp hehe).

TheEschaton
05-20-2004, 12:34 AM
My empath, once he has enough MIU, will have a Haste mage rechargable, X. I concur.

However, I disagree with Tayre's statement, unless he can kill 3 critters in 2 seconds apiece....because one swing from my heavy tempered greataxe is all it takes.

-TheE-

TheEschaton
05-20-2004, 12:34 AM
Nah, it's not unique. My mentor was Tsalim, the king of the two handed empath.

-TheE-