So... should Mom be prosecuted?

[Killer Kitten]

Cut and pasted this story from AOL news. Raises some interesting questions over parental rights vs the law:

Mom Indicted for Hiring Stripper for Son's 16th Birthday
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (May 29) - A mother faces criminal charges after she hired a stripper to dance at her 16-year-old son's birthday party.

Anette Pharris, 34, has been indicted by a grand jury on charges of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and involving a minor in obscene acts. The boy's father, the stripper and two others also face charges.

''I tried to do something special for my son,'' Pharris said. ''It didn't harm him.''

About 10 people under the age of 18 were at the birthday party in September, including minors who were not related to the family, authorities said.

Police spokesman Don Aaron said minors are not permitted in adult establishments.

''A person shouldn't be allowed to circumvent that law by hiring a stripper, a lady who took all her clothes off and spent a good amount of time dancing around minors,'' he said.

Anette Pharris took photos at the party and tried to have them developed at a nearby drug store. Drug store employees notified authorities, police said.

''Who are they to tell me what I can and can't show to my own children?'' the mother said.

[Back]

I think that kids mom rocks. If he can get a learners permit, he should be able to vote.

[Sean]

I'm more interested to hear what the parents of the other children at the party think than what the mother thinks.

[Hulkein]

It's definitely weird, and since there were some minors who weren't part of the family present, it's bordering on illegal.

If it was just the son and people over 18, I might feel differently.

[Edited on 5-30-2005 by Hulkein]

[Left Wing Brat]

Someday people learn that you can't get pictures of nakedness and minors developed at your local walmart and not go to jail.

[Anailea]

I would be upset if I found out that my son had been at a party like that.

Anailea

[SpunGirl]

What kind of sick bitch wants to get her son sexually excited?

-K

[Brattt8525]

''I tried to do something special for my son,'' Pharris said. ''It didn't harm him.''


Mother of the year for sure.

I want to hear if the other parents knew about her little special gift to her son.

[Skirmisher]

Eh, if both parents were there, and the child was 16 I don't have a huge problem with it.

As someone else said though, they had no right to make that decision for all of the parents of the other children who attended.

For that, they should be charged with something.

I'll leave the specifics to the authorities.

Edited to change she to they


[Edited on 5-30-2005 by Skirmisher]

[Snapp]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
What kind of sick bitch wants to get her son sexually excited?

That's what bugged me too. :weird:

Otherwise, if the other kids parents were okay with it, I guess it'd be alright to me. Weird, but whatever.

[Praefection]

How is this wrong than a parent (dad) bringing their son to a whore house or getting them a prositute for their birthday?

Either aren't okay in my opinion.

[Brattt8525]

Originally posted by Praefection
How is this wrong than a parent (dad) bringing their son to a whore house or getting them a prositute for their birthday?

Either aren't okay in my opinion.

Neither is a good thing to do to a teen. I think all it does is instill a lack of respect for your childs view/first expeience with the opposite sex.

[Delirium]

I think to compare it, it would have to be the mom bringing their son to a whore house. Neither is acceptable to me either but the spooky part is in my opinion that the mother hired the stripper. Like spun said,,what kind of mom wants to get her son sexually aroused? And what son wants a boner around his mother. Growing up id feel uncomfortable even watching kissing scenes in movies around my mom,,cant imagine the uncomfortable weirdness of having a live naked woman dancing around at 16 and your mom being there.

[Tsa`ah]

I had to think about this for a bit.

While I agree that the woman had no right to expose the children of other parents to it, I don't agree that her intent was to sexually arouse her son. However, what she did was more than a little disturbing.

The stripper should be charged first and foremost. She, or any stripper, should have refused to entertain minors as it is illegal. The second step should be to charge the mother with something ... what exactly to charge her with is perplexing. Contributing to the delinquency? Who knows. The charges should be for exposing those children she didn't have guardianship over.

I think the problem is that she was more concerned with being the "cool" mother, being the best friend, rather than being a mother.

My mother didn't exactly stop me from watching skinimax at 16 years old, nor did she sack my room to confiscate my Playboys. She certainly didn't buy Playboys or rent porn for me. Though it can be argued that she provided it in the way of a subscription to pay channels.

I think this is nothing more than the continued breakdown of what defines a parent. Some parents are more concerned with their child's popularity than they are their child's development. Hire strippers, fuck their friends (as was posted some time ago), buy them weed and booze, get hookers ... the stories are sickening.

[Kainen]

Yes she should. What else is a stripper for, but to get the kid sexually excited? How ELSE can you really take that? What she did was disturbing at the least. Knowing your kid might be watching a little soft core porn on cable is NOT the same as hiring a woman to shake her naked body in front of him.

[Caiylania]

If my child had been there, I would have wanted to slap her, hard. and I would do it for free.

[Numbers]

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (May 29)

'Nuff said.

Yes, no... YES!...no... yes?
its a hard choice/ She broke the law, so yes she should be.

[Iqxero]

Regardless of the outcome however, spots on the waiting list to get on the guest list for the child's 17 birthday are currently going for 200 bucks a pop on ebay.

And plus, I doubt he will EVER have trouble getting his buddies over, ever.

"Well, my mom had something planned for tonight and.."
"Dude, I'm there!"

That woman is the greatest human being on this planet and anyone who disagrees with me is dumb.

[Kainen]

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
That woman is the greatest human being on this planet and anyone who disagrees with me is dumb.

Guess I am dumb for thinking a mother should have nothing to do with ANY of her son's sexual experiances. Not mention that she shouldn't be ENCOURAGING them at his age.. or any age.

Maybe not some broken-tooth hooker popping out of a cake with the very opposite of a bikini wax, but if I had really flossing parents who hooked me up with like, uhhh, some kind of equivelant of a Playboy bunny, that would be fucking awesome.

[Gan]

I know if I were the teen I'd have been a little freaked out browsing a stripper's goodies with my folks standing around. EWWWW

Because it was a sexually related business transaction involving a minor I think she should be charged with something. I dont know the local/state statues in TN so I dont know what with though. And from a parent's standpoint with the other guests - I'd be really pissed if someone did this with my kid present with or without my knowledge. Children are growing up too fast as it is, they dont need any help in that category.

[Nieninque]

I dont think it is the brightest thing in the world to be doing.
But in the UK, she didnt break the law provided all the young people were over the age of 16

Stripper != prostitute.

When he turns 18, his mom should get him a real ho. It's Tennesee, these kind of things are allowed, you know.

[Nieninque]

Also, if the other parents hadn't acted in reported it before the photos were developed, I would guess that they werent too bothered either...as if a bunch of teenage boys were keeping that party secret from anyone...!

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Killer Kitten

''I tried to do something special for my son,'' Pharris said. ''It didn't harm him.''

''Who are they to tell me what I can and can't show to my own children?'' the mother said.

She should be made an example of.

If she doesnt like the laws here, she should move to the EU part of France.

[xtc]

Originally posted by Brattt8525
''I tried to do something special for my son,'' Pharris said. ''It didn't harm him.''


Mother of the year for sure.

I want to hear if the other parents knew about her little special gift to her son.

It seems that all the parents of the teenage boys in attendance were made aware of the stripper before hand and consented to their kid's attendance.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1633499,00.html

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by xtc
It seems that all the parents of the teenage boys in attendance were made aware of the stripper before hand and consented to their kid's attendance.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1633499,00.html


From the article
Mrs Pharris said that she had obtained permission from all the children’s parents for them to be there and that police overreacted. “Who are they to tell me what I can and can’t show to my own children?” she said.

That is her statement, not the statement of the other parents.

[Edited on 5-30-2005 by Tsa`ah]

[xtc]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah

Originally posted by xtc
It seems that all the parents of the teenage boys in attendance were made aware of the stripper before hand and consented to their kid's attendance.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1633499,00.html


From the article
Mrs Pharris said that she had obtained permission from all the children’s parents for them to be there and that police overreacted. “Who are they to tell me what I can and can’t show to my own children?” she said.

That is her statement, not the statement of the other parents.

[Edited on 5-30-2005 by Tsa`ah]

lol true...........I imagine the other kid's parents will deny they consented to avoid being charged themselves. I don't think we will ever know if they really did consent.

She should get a parenting award

[Sylph]

No... Best birthday present ever.

[ElanthianSiren]

Originally posted by Kainen

Originally posted by Stanley Burrell
That woman is the greatest human being on this planet and anyone who disagrees with me is dumb.

Guess I am dumb for thinking a mother should have nothing to do with ANY of her son's sexual experiances. Not mention that she shouldn't be ENCOURAGING them at his age.. or any age.

Your parents actually have a lot to do with your sexuality IMO. They teach you what is and isn't acceptable via role modelling.


Is this unacceptable? Doubtless, it's not like the kid is 7 and never saw tits before. Again, the distinction between exotic dance and whoring needs to be emphasized here.

When I was 14, I saw nearly-naked fire breathers performing at Woodstock II for RHCP. I thought it was cool and erotic. It's the same kind of show unless the mom was there going "Oh sweetie! How about you get a blowjob by this nice erotic dancer we hired?"

Seriously, people = nudity phobic.

Now, all that said -- I had permission to go to Woodstock II. My parents knew what was going on. I find it unacceptable if she hired this stripper and none of the other people's parents knew there were plans to have an erotic dancer there.
-Melissa

You were 14 and your parents let you go to woodstock? You have got ot be kidding me

[Jolena]

I have to agree that your parents should play an active role in their children's sexual education. While I personally would not have hired a stripper for my 16 year old's b-day party, I don't think that taking the stance that you should not be involved in your children's sexual life at all is the right way to go.

And, yes there is a huge difference between encouraging your child to have sex and letting him/her watch an erotic dancer. The issue of the other parents not knowing though is a big one and I think if they were not informed and did not give their permisson then she is at fault and should be charged with something although I'm not sure what.

[ElanthianSiren]

Originally posted by Dave
You were 14 and your parents let you go to woodstock? You have got ot be kidding me

My dad wanted to go to woodstock when he was a kid and his parents said absolutely no way, whatsoever. He was about the same age.

I rode on the tails of his disappointment :)

-Melissa

[Delirium]

Hmmm to me there is a big difference in watching skinimax, looking at playboy, watching a *near*naked firebreather on a stage and your mom hiring a stripper. My parents had hbo and i got to see tits on tv at a pretty young age. However if i had known they only had hbo so i could see tits it would have weirded me out. There is a much more active involvement in a naked woman dancing for you and knowing your mom hired her for that purpose. Yes parents have a role to play in a childs sexual education. However hiring a stripper isnt one of them. Yanno that inner voice that tells ya something is spooky or wrong? If my mom did this, after i got done being mesmerized by giant fake stripper tits, it would be screaming.