training advice

[pREDDY]

Race: Half-Krolvin Profession: Warrior
Level: 12 Gender: Male Age: (Select your age)


Skills:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 120 30
Combat Maneuvers...................| 108 26
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 108 26
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 70 15
Physical Fitness...................| 108 26
Dodging............................| 126 33
Perception.........................| 58 12
Training Points: 0 Phy 10 Mnt (152 Mnt converted to Phy)
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)

343 days remain until the annual FIXSKILLS is to be granted, on 05/20/2012.

You started this migration period on Monday, 5/30/2011 at 04:37:23 EDT. You have 16 days, 16 hours, 11 minutes remaining in your current 30 day migration period.

You're currently migrating at a rate of .001 skill points per pulse, and have converted 248.00 training points this migration period.

Further information can be found in the FAQs.

Stats: Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 81 (25) ... 81 (25)
Constitution (CON): 66 (18) ... 66 (18)
Dexterity (DEX): 89 (19) ... 89 (19)
Agility (AGL): 89 (24) ... 89 (24)
Discipline (DIS): 83 (16) ... 83 (16)
Aura (AUR): 67 (8) ... 67 (8)
Logic (LOG): 81 (5) ... 81 (5)
Intuition (INT): 56 (3) ... 56 (3)
Wisdom (WIS): 63 (1) ... 63 (1)
Influence (INF): 32 (-14) ... 32 (-14)

i was thinking i could 3x armor until i got into chain hauberk and then relax to 2x. dropping dodge to 2x would certainly open up points, but i'm not sure what other training is viable. i'm also thinking i want to switch to polearms.

i'm currently wearing 4x brig and swinging a 2x battle axe, but i have a 5x awl-pike and 5x chain hauberk.

suggestions?

[Loyrl]

Triple to 80 ranks of armor use for metal breastplate, or use the 5x haub.

2x pf
2x weapon skill
2x cm
2x dodge (3x is too many points for pre cap) or 1x if you want to get a second weapon choice
MOC - Get up to the thresholds you want, and then either keep it that way and use your points on something that will affect the now, and fixskills next year or keep plugging away at it.

Climb/Swim get it when you need it
first aid/suriv/Perception - personal choice

[pREDDY]

Skills:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 138 39
Combat Maneuvers...................| 108 26
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 108 26
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 70 15
Physical Fitness...................| 108 26
Dodging............................| 108 26
Training Points: 0 Phy 143 Mnt (104 Mnt converted to Phy)

3x armor
2x cm
2x thw (switching to polearms when i can swing my 5x awl-pike)
2x pf
2x dodge
1x MOC

when should i consider putting points into ambush? am i correct in that perception doesn't help ambushing and only helps aiming?

i'm also not sure what to use my armor points on.

[Loyrl]

If you don't hide you shouldn't need/want many ranks of ambush until much later. I currently have 50 ranks of ambush, (while leveling I had spare points and put 20 into ambush for a long time) some other warriors are also .5x and a few I think are 1x. CM is the main skill used for open ambushing I believe, and ambush helps a little. I have never used pole-arms so I can't comment on how hard it is to aim a awl-pike, but lances are pretty tough I hear.

http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Ambush

I know you didn't ask for Cm's but I was around lvl 36 when I started playing gs4 I think, and CM's were new to me. I started out with bonding + wspec3 and passives. I currently don't use any cmans except cman surge of strength. I use warrior guild skills for combat, I suggest starting with tricks, disarm and warcries.

http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Combat_maneuvers


Perception helps for bows, fu, and I haven't ever done hiding + ambush so I'm not sure if perception helps there or not. It helps to spot traps in boxes, bandit traps, and helps reduce ambush push down, along with other misc things.

http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Perception

Stats, I would also change your stats around before your 30 days is up, you're physical stats will grow quickly while your other stats will not. I didn't ever expect to get to cap, but I am almost there and wish I didn't have/want to buy a fixstat potion.

[pREDDY]

what would be a more optimal stat placement? i really don't understand the stat growth formula.

i just recently started playing with CMs, i haven't gotten into guild skills yet. are CMs like trip, bullrush, and charge useless when you consider the guilds alternatives?


Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Combat Mobility mobility 1
Bull Rush bullrush 2
Surge of Strength surge 1
Parry Mastery pmastery 2

Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 1




*edit

updated my cmans as follows

Specialization I wspec1 2
Combat Mobility mobility 1
Surge of Strength surge 1
Parry Mastery pmastery 2

[Loyrl]

Usually you want to kill quickly, so getting wtrick feint from guild tricks, and then ambushing the head, removing a limb, or mstriking is what I do.

For stats, I would try to get your dex/agi bonus to a reasonable RT reducing number for your race, and then put your con/str pretty low so it will allow you to put your points into other stats that grow slowly.

http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Round_time

One stat cruncher is here. I think there are others, but when I was placing stats I used tsoran's spreadsheet.

http://home.mchsi.com/~cphillips73/StatCruncher/StatCruncher.html

[pREDDY]

thanks alot, this is very helpful.

so to swing the awl-pike (9s RT) at 5 seconds i need to get agi + dex = 53
as a half-krolvin agi/dex bonus is 55. so i should max these? then lower str and con until i have enough point to have maxed mental stats at 100?

[Doldrum]

I use warrior guild skills for combat, I suggest starting with tricks, disarm and warcries.

Berserk is such a useful thing, it would be crazy not to get that asap in my opinion.

[Loyrl]

Forgot about berserk since its so easy to master it quickly.

[pREDDY]

advice on armor points?

[pREDDY]

are CMs like trip, bullrush, coup de grace, and charge useless when you consider the guilds alternatives?

[pREDDY]

Race: Half-Krolvin Profession: Warrior
Level: 14 Gender: Male Age: (Select your age)

Experience:
Experience: 235641 Next level at: 265000 exp.
Exp. until next lvl: 29359
Fame: 583027 Deeds: 0 Deaths this level: 0
Your mind is fresh and clear.

Skills:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 145 45
Combat Maneuvers...................| 120 30
Polearm Weapons....................| 120 30
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 70 15
Physical Fitness...................| 120 30
Dodging............................| 120 30
Perception.........................| 70 15
Training Points: 0 Phy 126 Mnt


Stats: Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 82 (26) ... 82 (26)
Constitution (CON): 67 (18) ... 67 (18)
Dexterity (DEX): 89 (19) ... 89 (19)
Agility (AGL): 89 (24) ... 89 (24)
Discipline (DIS): 83 (16) ... 83 (16)
Aura (AUR): 67 (8) ... 67 (8)
Logic (LOG): 81 (5) ... 81 (5)
Intuition (INT): 57 (3) ... 57 (3)
Wisdom (WIS): 63 (1) ... 63 (1)
Influence (INF): 34 (-13) ... 34 (-13)

your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Specialization I wspec1 3
Weapon Bonding bonding 1
Combat Mobility mobility 1
Surge of Strength surge 1
Parry Mastery pmastery 1

ok this is where i am at now. i have until this weekend to do something with my stats. thank you all for your help.



also, i'm thinking about dropping polearm and going for twc and mstrike. i think that would be a lot of fun.

[pREDDY]

>stance offensive
You are now in an offensive stance.
>mstrike
You concentrate intently, focusing all your energies.
With instinctive motions, you weave to and fro striking with deliberate and unrelenting fury!
You swing a star-hilted dark saw-tooth falchion at a manticore!
AS: +179 vs DS: +40 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +57 = +231
... and hit for 55 points of damage!
Strong slash to throat nicks a few blood vessels.
The manticore is stunned!
You swing a silver-hilted dwarven forged falchion at a manticore!
AS: +157 vs DS: +15 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +64 = +241
... and hit for 61 points of damage!
Slash to the manticore's chest!
Breathe deep, it'll feel better in a minute.
The manticore falls to the ground and dies.
You swing a star-hilted dark saw-tooth falchion at a manticore!
AS: +179 vs DS: +57 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +44 = +201
... and hit for 43 points of damage!
Right elbow smashed into a thousand pieces.
The manticore is stunned!
You swing a silver-hilted dwarven forged falchion at a manticore!
AS: +157 vs DS: +33 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +61 = +220
... and hit for 54 points of damage!
Deep slash to the manticore's left forearm!
The manticore falls to the ground and dies.
You swing a star-hilted dark saw-tooth falchion at a thrak!
AS: +179 vs DS: +65 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +6 = +154
... and hit for 24 points of damage!
Blow to back cracks several vertebrae.

** Your dark saw-tooth falchion releases a spray of acid! **

... 30 points of damage!
Acid dissolves the knee ligaments. The thrak's tibia passes its femur in a very unpleasant manner!
It is knocked to the ground!
The thrak is stunned!
You swing a silver-hilted dwarven forged falchion at a thrak!
AS: +157 vs DS: +2 with AvD: +34 + d100 roll: +42 = +231
... and hit for 48 points of damage!
Fast slash to the thrak's neck exposes its windpipe.
Quick anatomy lesson, anyone?
The thrak hisses one last time and dies.

Your flurry of strikes leaves you off-balance and out of position.
Roundtime: 9 sec.

now this is FUN.