Major Suckage

[Siefer]

Why the fuck did Coca Cola stop making 2 liter bottles? They have some balls dropping down to 1.5 liters AND charging more now than they did for the 2 liter. The pizza and Chinese take out places have the nerve to charge $2.50 for 1.5 FUCKING LITER BOTTLE. FUCK. ASS.

Why is everyone becoming so greedy? Everything is so fucking expensive these days.

[TheEschaton]

WHAT THE FUCK?


Tell me you're lying. .5 less liter?


Ouch.


-TheE-

[Siefer]

Less coke for more money = bad idea. It's the same situation as GS practically, more money for no reason, although the GS hike is undoubtedly because of that piece of shit's wedding. I want to know, where is this fucking money going? In both instances, coke and GS, what's the justification? I don't see it. What I do see is this relentless greed phase that all these business criminals are going through these days.

Still.Fucking.Pissed.

[Straight-up]

<<Less coke for more money = bad idea. It's the same situation as GS practically, more money for no reason, although the GS hike is undoubtedly because of that piece of shit's wedding. I want to know, where is this fucking money going? In both instances, coke and GS, what's the justification? I don't see it. What I do see is this relentless greed phase that all these business criminals are going through these days.>>



I swear posts like this make me laugh. I can understand being a bit upset about something that impacts you. Saying it is "needless" or "for no reason" is if nothing else uncertain. You have NO FUCKING clue why they raise prices on ANYTHING. For example...gas prices have gone up drastically all over...you think that doesn't affect the cost of virtually everything else? Duh..pull your head out of your ass. There is also cost of living increase and general inflation. Try running a business yourself for say 10 years and don't raise your prices. If you don't there are one of two things happening. Either you were screwing people by charging a shitload over your break-even point OR you are losing money and about to go out of business. Face it...shit usually goes up in price if they were not gouging you already.

Back to the bitching about the price going up...


Straight

Who coincidentally drinks coke and is not at all happy with paying more money.

[Siefer]

Again, where is this extra money going? If a company can come out and prove to me that the hike is absolutely vital to their surival, then by all means go ahead and do it. But don't suddenly spring this shit on me for no reason. I didn't expect to run out and suddenly learn that 2 liter bottles were ancient history. Fucking pizza places and Chinese take out joints always overcharged for 2 liters, but now, they've crossed the fucking line.

And regarding GS, I think it's extremely bad PR when they raise prices because the head honcho is getting married. To add insult to injury, I read somewhere that the guy bought a $25k ring. Furthermore, his fiance suddenly becomes a GM.

God, these people fucking suck. This is just the beginning, these cretins won't stop, ever. They make me sick.

[Siefer]

FUCK THESE SMALL BOTTLES OF SHIT

Fucking cap just magically decided to launch itself into orbit sending coke all over my rug. Thanks a lot.

You guys should watch the news more often this week. You might hear about a disgruntled Cola addict storming Coca Cola HQ and holding the CEO for a large amount of cash. Excuse me while I plan my attack.

FUCK.

Is it coke or the places you are ordering from overcharging you?

[Kitsun]

Dude, you really need to chill out before your head asplode or something.

You're freaking out over a price increase for a video game and some soda.

Unless you're a stock holder of a company, they don't have anything at all to prove to you. Matter of fact, stock holders may actually enjoy the fact that they're boosting up the price. I honestly don't ever remember any large corporation asking for opinions about pricing structures or justifications for anything they do.

Simu is a different story. The whole thing is privately held, he can actually do ANYTHING he wants with the money, including take all the operating funds and flush it down the toilet, donate it to charity or buy his own jet so he can urinate over the Rocky Mountains. You'll never know what is going to happen on that front because well, he doesn't have to tell anyone shit.

While they don't owe you anything, you don't owe them anything either. Drink bottled spring water, tap water or rain water. Go play basketball outside and stop funding what you hate if it disgusts you so much.

PS. When you open up bottles of carbonate beverages, twist slowly and let the pressure release slowly.

[Siefer]

The grocery stores too are charging more now than they did for the larger bottles, but the pizza places and Chinese restaurants have balls of steel to charge what they do. I'm pissed at because everyone just keeps getting greedier and greedier, it's a never ending thing. It isn't just Coca Cola or Simu, it's on a much larger scale.

"PS. When you open up bottles of carbonate beverages, twist slowly and let the pressure release slowly."

No shit. I was putting the damn thing back into my fridge when the cap just popped and stained my carpet.

You have carpet near your fridge?

[Siefer]

Ya I got a mini-fridge in my basement.

[Edited on 5-16-2004 by Siefer]

[Nakiro]

Drink more water. Your body will thank you.

[Siefer]

I always keep a 2 gallon jug of water in my fridge but I only drink from it after I work out. If I'm eating something I always grab for the coke first, if I don't have coke, than I go for the iced tea. If I don't have iced tea, I make some :-)

[Myshel]

Companies have been doing this for years. They keep the packaging the same, or put new, better, blah blah blah on it, and lower the amount inside.

Anytime I see NEW BETTER on the outside I know they have done something sneaky.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

With gas prices high, anything that needs delivered will increase in price. That includes, well... everything.

As far as the price increase... you still pay for GS don't you? You still bought your 1.5L bottle, didn't you? You, as a consumer, haven't reached a break point and it isn't hurting them a bit.

[Artha]

Drink a real soda. Like Dr Pepper.

[Edited on 5-16-2004 by Artha]

[Jazuela]

A wee bit of basic economics for ya Seifer.

The base cost of petroleum production went up. Not by much, all things considered. However, the reserves that exist to offset this weren't released, which caused the companies that buy the produced petroleum to raise -their- prices proportionately, so that they could continue to bring in the same profit margin.

Profit does not equal profit margin. If your stockholders require a 25% profit -margin- to be happy, and you only raise your prices two cents per barrel when your cost went up 50 bucks per barrel, your stockholders are gonna start making noise. That is bad for business, even if you don't WANT to charge the gas station that much for their oil.

It isn't just about the gas, either. Where do you think plastic bottles come from dood? OIL. Plastic is made out of petroleum. How about those inks they use to make the pretty red Coca Cola label? OIL, dood. It's all about the oil.

Using the profit margin explanation above, a distributor needs to maintain -his- profit margin when he's selling only 10-50 bottles of coke to the local pizza joint. He has to consider man-hours required and gas in his delivery truck required to get the soda into the pizza place's refrigerator. A supermarket will buy 10 pallets of coke, with 72 bottles on each pallet. A pizza joint will only buy 10-50 bottles per week. It costs more -per bottle- to deliver the coke to the pizza joint than it does to the supermarket.

Then the pizza joint has to maintain -his- profit -margin- which means that if he was making 40% profit before, he has to still make that 40% profit now. 40% profit on 50 bottles of coke per week is diddly shit. It's chump change. Oh and that's 40% profit -after- taking out the bottle deposit and tax that the customer may or may not have added onto the sale, but that will be paid to the state regardless. Sometimes it's tax included. Sometimes it ain't. But it's always there - mwahahahahaha!

Anyway. When the pizza guy's charged another 50 cents per bottle, he -has- to raise the price to you 50 cents, plus an additional 40% to maintain his 40% profit margin. If he raises it 50 cents only, he's lowering his profit margin, and he's not gonna want to make pizza for your greedy little addicted pissant ass anymore.

So - STFU.

[DianaBanana]

Originally posted by Nakiro
Drink more water. Your body will thank you.

:worship: Soda is evil...unless there is rum in it.

[Jenisi]

I hardly ever drink soda (it's soooo bad!)

[Siefer]

Fuck man, everything revolves around fucking gas and oil. We invaved the wrong damn country.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<The pizza and Chinese take out places have the nerve to charge $2.50 for 1.5 FUCKING LITER BOTTLE. FUCK. ASS.>>

And this is why:

1. Pepsi is so much better, and
2. I've gotten used to the taste of generic soda so I can buy a 3 liter bottle for $.99 (plus bottle deposit).

[Jazuela]

First of all, Bob is right. Pepsi is so much better. Bob is right. You may quote me on that.

Second - I went grocery shopping today, which means I checked out all the weekly circulars that come in the mail on Fridays. Coke is still being advertised as available in 2 liter bottles, and nowhere did I see a single mention of 1.5 bottles. The actual supermarket visit proved this to be true - not one 1.5 liter bottle on the shelves. And the 2 liter bottles were all on sale for 99 cents each.

Pepsi also had a sale - 79 cents/2 liters. And since, as Bob says, Pepsi is so much better, that's what I got.

So - Seifer is either full of shit, or Coke is making 1.5 liter bottles just for the smaller markets such as pizza joints and not selling them in supermarkets.

Either is a believable possibility.

[Siefer]

It isn't just the small time pizza joints man, grocery stores, super markets, even local CVS and Genovese places don't have the 2 liters anymore.

[Ravenstorm]

No, there was a report on the news not too long ago about an upcoming effort to downsize products in response to a growing consumer demand for less supersizing. It seems at least some of the population has realized how disgustingly obese they are and are moving toward smaller sizes. So Coke, among others, are making smaller sized products in addition to what they normally make. The added production costs of this are reflected in the higher price which was stated in the report.

I recall thinking at the time that while consuming less shit in an effort to get weight under control was an excellent idea, just how incredibly stupid people would be to pay more for less when they could just pour out or throw away 1/4 of the larger sized container that they're being charged less for.

Raven

[Some Rogue]

Originally posted by Ravenstorm
I recall thinking at the time that while consuming less shit in an effort to get weight under control was an excellent idea, just how incredibly stupid people would be to pay more for less when they could just pour out or throw away 1/4 of the larger sized container that they're being charged less for.

Raven

But that would require some will power which is in notoriously short supply these days. Not to mention it would require people to actually take some responsibility for their own lives. Good luck getting the majority of people these days to do that.

[Galleazzo]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
2. I've gotten used to the taste of generic soda so I can buy a 3 liter bottle for $.99 (plus bottle deposit). Yeah. Tonic in these parts with Stop & Shop's generic brand costs exactly that. Same with Walmart. Get a case of Walmart's store brand and you pay less than 15 cents a can.

You can also buy real cheap at Costco or BJ's or other wholesale clubs. I NEVER buy Coke any more. Screw it, I don't get a lot of things at the supermarket. I get it all at BJ's, where I can get a case of generic pasta, 12 lbs worth, for 4 bucks.

[Siefer]

Originally posted by RavenstormI recall thinking at the time that while consuming less shit in an effort to get weight under control was an excellent idea, just how incredibly stupid people would be to pay more for less when they could just pour out or throw away 1/4 of the larger sized container that they're being charged less for.

Thats exactly why I created this thread.