Curious about Reception of a Character Concept

[AquiziTC]

Ok, new guy here. Well, not new.. but returning new.
I played GS3 back in the AOL days, and off and on again since then, mostly off again because I was growing up and being an idiot teenager and now an idiot adult.

Ahem, but! To the arrpees question.

I'm going to roll up a rogue, either half-elf, full elf or sylvan, on Prime. Now.. this isn't going to be overarching and I DEFINITELY don't want this question to seem as a "LOOK AT ME" kinda thing but.. how are gay characters generally received?

Not that I'm flaming or anything, and asking about it makes me uncomfortable as hell because I'm not, nor do I appreciate, the type of guy who tells everyone and expects special treatment and such .. but I do know that it can cause a bit of... conflict.

I ask mostly because it -will- come up eventually. When I'm in town picking boxes and Quiz either rebuffs a flirty woman or makes a comment playfully to a bloke, I just don't wanna get hassled for it.

I guess it's kinda silly to ask, cause I doubt I'm the -first- guy, but growing up and living in the bible belt makes me kinda paranoid. Also, to that end, curious if there's a GLBT group hanging around GS, but that's more curiosity.

Uh.. heh, wow kinda weird topic for a first post, and I kinda feel silly still --- again, just paranoid I guess.

[Eoghain]

FAGGOTRY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED UNLESS APPROVED BY THE HOMO COUNCIL. Seek out Eoghain, Tayre, Desorceri or Querthose (but really just Eoghain or Tayre) for applications. Bring your A game.

[AquiziTC]

Hah! Ok there's that question!!

Follow-up: How do these cultures .. or well I guess it's speculation, but how would these races generally view it? Sylvankind I kinda see as the least 'tolerant' but uh.. that may just be tying 'tradition' a bit too much into current political definitions.

[Warriorbird]

Hah! Ok there's that question!!

Follow-up: How do these cultures .. or well I guess it's speculation, but how would these races generally view it? Sylvankind I kinda see as the least 'tolerant' but uh.. that may just be tying 'tradition' a bit too much into current political definitions.

The Empire would probably be some haters (but they hate everything). I could see it disapproved of amongst the Dhe'nari due to low pop. I imagine Vaalor as a Sparta analog on some level would be relatively cool with it.

Whatever fits your RP.

[rosewater]

dude, power to you if you do this. I can't imagine you won't get shit for it, but I hope you can also open some minds.

regarding cultures - I'd be willing to bet that if you look at any culture in the world right now, you'd find some undercurrent of homosexual activity. since nothing's written about it for GS race histories, I say go for it and maybe you can make history yourself.

[AquiziTC]

Leaning Sylvan really.. and I think I can spin it well enough.

Also, looking through the god stuff again cause I haven't for awhile.. this sounds like a perfect job for Voaris!

Of course, -now- it has me debating rogue or cleric. Curse you, GS!

[Doldrum]

Getting hassled for it is half the fun in my opinion. Not taking things seriously and trying to remember its a character saying it and not necessarily the player controlling him's point of view when you the player gets offended by words will make things easier. Apart from that in my experience most people are pretty tolerant and screwing with the few bad apples can truly be a blast. Plus there is quite a few curious people around, I bet you'll enjoy it if you make this character.

[Cephalopod]

FAGGOTRY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED UNLESS APPROVED BY THE HOMO COUNCIL. .

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[Eoghain]

that pic is full of win. Also, there are plenty of gay characters. AND WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER. And some of us like chicks too.

[Drew2]

*Eoghain's message has been approved by the Homo Council of Elanthia.*

[Drew]

trying to remember its a character saying it and not necessarily the player controlling him's point of view when you the player gets offended by words will make things easier.

This is very important. I don't hate half krolvins in real life. There's one gay guy in the game who thinks I hate him IRL but he's not much of a roleplayer.

[WRoss]

Dunav is about as flaming as it gets and he is hilarious. There are plenty of gay characters. At least you have the decency to roll up a guy instead of a chick.

[diethx]

At least you have the decency to roll up a guy instead of a chick.

Less free stuff this way, though.

[WRoss]

Pfft, I am a straight guy char and I've gotten plenty of free stuff.

[waywardgs]

Dwarves are pretty gay. They all have beards.

[sereh]

I think an openly gay, but not cartoonish cleric would be awesome. Sylvan seems the race most likely to accept homosexuality as a natural life choice.

I have met several gay characters in game, and some straight characters created by gay players and vise versa.

There will be jerks, but as far as I can see jerkiness is not limited by sexual preference! For the most part, the GS community is accepting of pretty much anything as long as you make the effort to role play.

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[Fallen]

The Empire would probably be some haters (but they hate everything). I could see it disapproved of amongst the Dhe'nari due to low pop. I imagine Vaalor as a Sparta analog on some level would be relatively cool with it.

Whatever fits your RP.

The Dhe'nar don't care about sexuality in general. As so long as the specific First Born follows the breeding mandate of the Temple Caste, they can do as they please.

[Warriorbird]

The Dhe'nar don't care about sexuality in general. As so long as the specific First Born follows the breeding mandate of the Temple Caste, they can do as they please.

Right. I meant if somebody resisted being a breeder.

[diethx]

Pfft, I am a straight guy char and I've gotten plenty of free stuff.

Yeah but you had to give RL blow jobs. Easier and less gross to just make a female character.

[Eliaku]

Dont forget Kethore. Gay cleric.

Its fantasy. Id say most people are middle of the road when it comes to sexuality. Guys stealing kisses from other guys. Girls swapping spit with other girls. Its all good.

Express yourself feely. Just dont expess on my shoes!

[AquiziTC]

Dont forget Kethore. Gay cleric.

Its fantasy. Id say most people are middle of the road when it comes to sexuality. Guys stealing kisses from other guys. Girls swapping spit with other girls. Its all good.

Express yourself feely. Just dont expess on my shoes!

You got it. I don't like feet anyway.

[HJFudge]

If you can do it without coming off as...I dunno...some sort of 'Im using this character as a walking metaphor on the state of the current LBGT movement in RL" go for it!

Something different, at least. I enjoy different done well in my RP

[Gelston]

Gay isn't really new in GS. Hell, someone RP'd a Tranny in TV for a time.

[Fallen]

Right. I meant if somebody resisted being a breeder.

Oh, yeah. That would get your ass exiled or killed. Ask Eoghain about forced breedings. I do miss Starshadow.

Also, Querthose sold out, so I wouldn't just assume the new player of the character has him RP'd as gay.

[petroglyph]

The original sylvan history, as released via an in-game presentation, included this section in its description of sylvan marriage customs:


Tyndrasi says, "In some instances, a family observed that one of its children preferred a same-sex partner."

Tyndrasi says, "These individuals were not considered to be any less worthy than others; rather it was viewed as a different, though valid path."

Tyndrasi says, "The child often communicated this preference to the elders of the household, since nothing was considered wrong about the choice."

Tyndrasi says, "In that case, the arrangements for a union were handled identically to those of the other children, although the number of available partners was more limited."

Tyndrasi says, "While limited choices often meant an alliance that was not deemed as profitable, it was known that the happiness of the prospective marriage partners directly affected the happiness of the household at large, and this meant much more than wealth or political gain."

Tyndrasi says, "Once a partner was found for the child, the marriage ceremony was celebrated as joyfully as any other marriage. However, in choosing which household the pair would make their home, the details were somewhat more complicated."

Tyndrasi says, "These negotiations were settled during the betrothal, usually benefiting the more successful household, or else the household that offered the best potential for children. For, it was always expected that at least one member of a same-sex union would choose a surrogate partner in order to bring the blessing of a child to the household."

Tyndrasi says, "As years of plenty replenished the decimated population of the sylvans, this expectation was relaxed"

Tyndrasi says, "In later years, bringing honor to a household via service or excellence in a chosen endeavor was viewed as a worthy contribution."

Until I went to look just now, I hadn't realized this wasn't in the current Simu website version (which is otherwise basically a verbatim copy of what was said at that event). That's. . .interesting. I wonder when they decided to cut it, and why. It's particularly weird because they left in the line about "As years of plenty replenished the decimated population of the sylvans, this expectation was relaxed," but without the preceding paragraph as context it makes no sense.

[AquiziTC]

That is very interesting stuff. Of course this is a very current definition of 'traditional' but seeing as Sylvans generally are known as the 'traditional' elf I expected a more hardline view of family and all that.

Think I'll get the Quizzler up and running today after class, now that I was kindly pointed to a 'I suck at match in GS' thread. See y'all in Icemule~

[Eoghain]

Right. I meant if somebody resisted being a breeder.

If a Dhe'nar in their home realm resisted the orders of the Temple, they would be killed. Perhaps they could escape to the West and RP that out, but they'd be a bit of an outcast, not for their orientation, but for their defiance of the Temple.

Like Mormons!

Luckily in GS, none of the Dhe'nar are RPing in Sharath, so breeding orders are entirely unlikely to be issued by anyone.

[WRoss]

wait wait wait.....I can get the cyberz by order?

[4a6c1]

Querthose did a good job on all of these issues. Jihna was a bad person and at times and I enjoyed pushing her character to the limit. He was disgusted and amused I think but never broke character. I was very well impressed. I would say that player should be consulted for any role of this nature....if he still plays.

Be true to your character and to yourself, you will always find support.

[WRoss]

Querthose did a good job on all of these issues. Jihna was a bad person and at times and I enjoyed pushing her character to the limit. He was disgusted and amused I think but never broke character. I was very well impressed. I would say that player should be consulted for any role of this nature....if he still plays.

Be true to your character and to yourself, you will always find support.

The original player of Querthose turned out to be a self-centered ego driven thief. I would suggest not consulting him for anything Gemstone related.

[4a6c1]

WHAT?!

Give me a thread or a reference or something. That sounds so weird. :(

[Warriorbird]

wait wait wait.....I can get the cyberz by order?

Why do you think the Dhe'nar were invented? Were they really dyari? Really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_World#Dyari