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Stunseed
05-14-2004, 11:13 PM
I just realized that I never re-allocated Stun from the GSIV conversion. Boy did they screw me with the conversion.

Level 0 Stats for Stunseed, Human Ranger

Strength (STR): 77
Constitution (CON): 82
Dexterity (DEX): 96
Agility (AGI): 86
Discipline (DIS): 69
Aura (AUR): 59
Logic (LOG): 50
Intuition (INT): 71
Wisdom (WIS): 50
Influence (INF): 20

That's the conversion, so I ask myself... At 0 trains, a 96 dex? So I got with another Ranger and compared stats to realized with about the same number of trains, his dexterity has grown 24 points. Here's my stats at 45 trains.

Strength (STR): 94 (27) ... 94 (27)
Constitution (CON): 95 (22) ... 95 (22)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Agility (AGI): 97 (23) ... 97 (23)
Discipline (DIS): 83 (16) ... 83 (16)
Aura (AUR): 71 (10) ... 71 (10)
Logic (LOG): 64 (12) ... 64 (12)
Intuition (INT): 90 (25) ... 90 (25)
Wisdom (WIS): 72 (11) ... 72 (11)
Influence (INF): 39 (-5) ... 39 (-5)

So, anyways, I'm looking for a stat master to help me crunch these into something that makes life a little easier. I'm thinking if I drop my dex by 30 or so, toss 15 in Aura and Logic it would give me more TP's to work with. Any ideas?

[Edited on 5-15-2004 by Stunseed]

FinisWolf
05-14-2004, 11:34 PM
Just a thought, but if someone was to help, they would need your race also Stun.

Edited to say; "I know I would, if I was helping. Also, have you used Tsorans spreadsheet to manipulate the numebs?

Finiswolf

[Edited on 5-15-2004 by FinisWolf]

Stunseed
05-14-2004, 11:36 PM
Stun's Human, it's right above his newb stats.

Anebriated
05-14-2004, 11:44 PM
I havent run any numbers yet(need to gather all of my crunching programs from the other computer), but I think you have the right idea with dropping Dex down a bit, I would weight Logic a bit higher than Aura if I were you though. Maybe 20/10. Logic is the primary factor of absorbing exp and 'bucket' exp now. Here are my stats which were geared towards mid level archery(I missed my last stat reallocation so im stuck with them now).


Level 0 Stats for Elrodin, Elf Ranger

Strength (STR): 80
Constitution (CON): 50
Dexterity (DEX): 85
Agility (AGI): 70
Discipline (DIS): 75
Aura (AUR): 70
Logic (LOG): 70
Intuition (INT): 80
Wisdom (WIS): 60
Influence (INF): 20

Name: Elrodin Sharo Race: Elf Profession: Ranger (shown as: Ranger)
Gender: Male Age: 47 Expr: 2004467 Level: 43
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 94 (22) ... 94 (22)
Constitution (CON): 63 (6) ... 63 (6)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Agility (AGI): 84 (32) ... 84 (32)
Discipline (DIS): 83 (1) ... 83 (1)
Aura (AUR): 83 (21) ... 83 (21)
Logic (LOG): 79 (14) ... 79 (14)
Intuition (INT): 94 (22) ... 94 (22)
Wisdom (WIS): 79 (14) ... 79 (14)
Influence (INF): 43 (7) ... 43 (7)

FinisWolf
05-14-2004, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Elrodin
I havent run any numbers yet(need to gather all of my crunching programs from the other computer), but I think you have the right idea with dropping Dex down a bit, I would weight Logic a bit higher than Aura if I were you though. Maybe 20/10. Logic is the primary factor of absorbing exp and 'bucket' exp now. Here are my stats which were geared towards mid level archery(I missed my last stat reallocation so im stuck with them now).


You should still have 5 stat allocations left if you go to the inn, unless you used those as well. If I understand that correctly.

Finiswolf

FinisWolf
05-14-2004, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Stunseed
Stun's Human, it's right above his newb stats.

Missed that, and I even went back through the post to look.

<-- Blushing furiously

Finiswolf

Anebriated
05-14-2004, 11:58 PM
I used one then found out that they got rid of them all... It sucked.

FinisWolf
05-15-2004, 12:36 AM
Stun~

You current stat placement affords you 2,361 PTP, and 2,005 MTP.

Your suggested placement would afford you 2,270 PTP, and 2,051 MTP. -- Numbers @ 45: Str-94 Con-95 Dex-88 Agl-97 Dis-83 Aur-84 Log-76 Int-90 Wis-72 Inf-39

Elrodin's suggested placement would afford you 2,266 PTP, and 2,056 MTP. -- Numbers @ 45: Str-94 Con-95 Dex-88 Agl-97 Dis-83 Aur-80 Log-80 Int-90 Wis-72 Inf-39

Elrodin's placement for his Elf affords him 2,253 PTP, and 2,120 MTP. -- Elrodin's numbers @ 45: Str-95 Con-64 Dex-100 Agl-85 Dis-84 Aur-84 Log-80 Int-95 Wis-80 Inf-44

Simply making Elrodin's numbers yours would afford you as a Human Ranger 2,259 PTP, and 2,116 MTP. -- Numbers @ 45: Str-96 Con-71 Dex-100 Agl-84 Dis-88 Aur-80 Log-80 Int-96 Wis-80 Inf-39

Anyway, maybe this will help.

Finiswolf

FinisWolf
05-15-2004, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by Elrodin
I used one then found out that they got rid of them all... It sucked.

Something is wrong with that. Finis still has 4 left that he can use. and, I have other chars that I have used as many as 4 of them within the last couple months. I would suggest going and checking in again to see if maybe it was a glitch.

Finiswolf

[Edited on 5-15-2004 by FinisWolf]

Stunseed
05-15-2004, 12:44 AM
Finis, while you got the stat machine going, could you do an optimized TP stat check? Oh and also the difference between Stun and Elrodin is Stun's the other society, which is why I was thinking higher Aura. 7 spirit blows badly.

Anebriated
05-15-2004, 12:46 AM
Stun, going by the numbers that were posted by Finis(who needs a life, kidding of course), you are better off sticking with what you have. By switching you will lose alot of PTP's which will hurt your heavily physical training plan. Just an observation.

Finis, I was told that if we used one then there was only a certain time you had to finish them by. I remember it being a big topic here on the boards. I think im basically SOL.

Stunseed
05-15-2004, 12:54 AM
Yeah, I noticed, maybe I'll just keep the re-allocation in check, for later train use. I sure could use some extra to get some MoC, though.

FinisWolf
05-15-2004, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Stunseed
Finis, while you got the stat machine going, could you do an optimized TP stat check? Oh and also the difference between Stun and Elrodin is Stun's the other society, which is why I was thinking higher Aura. 7 spirit blows badly.

Optimized to what level? And, what spirit could you get by on (8? 9?)?

Bards and Rangers are the two hardest to set up stats for, because they depend on so many things, next hardest being wizards, due to str and dex being important for them, while those stats are not even their prime or secondary.

Finiswolf

FinisWolf
05-15-2004, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by Elrodin
Stun, going by the numbers that were posted by Finis(who needs a life, kidding of course), you are better off sticking with what you have. By switching you will lose alot of PTP's which will hurt your heavily physical training plan. Just an observation.

Finis, I was told that if we used one then there was only a certain time you had to finish them by. I remember it being a big topic here on the boards. I think im basically SOL.

Ahh, yes, I vaguely re-call that now, 30 days from the first time. Well, that bites, but to check, I am going to log in a char I know I did over 30 days ago and see what I get.

Finiswolf

Stunseed
05-15-2004, 01:02 AM
I guess my training pattern is too physical to really manipulate right now. I just keep at it and see where the stats grow. I just hate knowing there's 55 trains of me losing points. Grr.

FinisWolf
05-15-2004, 01:06 AM
Elrodin~

I just ran a char to the inn and checked in, I made sure it was one that I adjusted skills on over a month ago, and the one I checked was actually adjusted over 2 months ago. As it turns out, that char can in fact still adjust the stats. So my suggestion stands, try checking in again.

Finiswolf

FinisWolf
05-15-2004, 01:12 AM
Stun~

If you shot for minimum stats of 90 (as much as is possible) These are the stats you would want...

Maximized stats for a Human Ranger
..................................... CO DE* DI LO IT* ST AG IF WI AU

GI's .............................. 22 30 20 15 27 27 20 10 25 15
Initial Placement .......... 70 30 70 82 44 59 73 88 62 82
Stats at Level 100 100 93 98 100 93 100 100 100 100 100

Sorry about the way it comes up, but without putting too much time into it, those are the numbers for stats at 100.

Finiswolf

Stunseed
05-15-2004, 01:17 AM
Cool, preciate it, Finiswolf.

FinisWolf
05-15-2004, 01:34 AM
Stun~

For a weighting of 4 physical to 1 mental, here is a stat placement: (Second Column is level 45, third is level 100))

STR 70 89 ..... 100
CON 87 99 ..... 100
DEX P 95 100.... 100
AGL 90 100.... 100
DIS 53 71 ..... 87
AUR 89 97 ..... 100
LOG 70 80 ..... 91
INT S 33 66 ..... 90
WIS M 53 76 ..... 94
INF 20 39 ..... 53

Total TP: 2383 PTP
1936 MTP

This is just preimptive, with hardly no work.

Finiswolf

FinisWolf
05-15-2004, 01:34 AM
Ok, done for now, unless you like what you are seeing of course.

..., And, you are welcome of course. For some dumb reason, I like messing with the numbers.

Finiswolf