With fixskills coming up..

[Shari]

I've realized how silly it is for me to be using points for pickpocketing when I could turn into a kickass cman using polearm swinger. Can anyone give me some helpful hints on where to be placing my pickpocketing points and any others I might be actually wasting on skills I don't need?

I swing 243 with all my signs on.

>info
Name: Jesae Race: Sylvankind Profession: Bard (not shown)
Gender: Female Age: 325 Expr: 425382 Level: 19
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 94 (22) ... 94 (22)
Constitution (CON): 37 (-6) ... 37 (-6)
Dexterity (DEX): 79 (24) ... 79 (24)
Agility (AGI): 78 (19) ... 78 (19)
Discipline (DIS): 92 (16) ... 92 (16)
Aura (AUR): 96 (28) ... 96 (28)
Logic (LOG): 53 (1) ... 53 (1)
Intuition (INT): 56 (3) ... 56 (3)
Wisdom (WIS): 76 (13) ... 76 (13)
Influence (INF): 72 (11) ... 72 (11)
Mana: 37 Silver: 0
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Gherheart just went west.
>skills
Jesae (at level 19), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 105 25
Combat Maneuvers...................| 15 3
Polearm Weapons....................| 142 42
Physical Fitness...................| 102 24
Dodging............................| 70 15
Harness Power......................| 96 22
Elemental Mana Control.............| 50 10
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 15 3
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 50 10
Perception.........................| 111 27
Climbing...........................| 20 4
Swimming...........................| 20 4
Pickpocketing......................| 142 42

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 2

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 18
Training Points: 4 Phy 0 Mnt

Any input would be great, thanks.

[100% Wool]

talking to chadj or maliku will be your best bet for finding info i believe they are bards who use lances and such
look them up when they are on psinet

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Jesae
I've realized how silly it is for me to be using points for pickpocketing...

Wha???????????????????

[Zanagodly]

1x dodge, lose some perception, ditch the PP, and get more CM. Not sure if your lore training is quality or not, someone else might be more knowledgable

[AnticorRifling]

Your swing suffers from that training but your race doesn't help that either. You don't need to hit like a ton of bricks using a lance. Now if you're using a Naginata well AS helps but lances do good damage. Personally I like the look of the 2x pickpocketing just because you don't expect a bard to have it. The only downside is your CM hurts from it.

[Zanagodly]

2x pp with no hide is weak unless your a wizard who is invisible

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

If you were trained in MOC and Polearms, could you use spears in both hands and mstrike?

[TheEschaton]

You would need TWC for that, SHM.


And a polearming bard, without Charge, is pretty weak. Ask Chad.

-TheE-

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

sorry, I meant TWC. So it IS feasable... I could put a spear (one handed) in each hand and mstrike with them?

Reason I ask, is that I have two glaes damage weighted spears, am curious how a focused strike would go.

[TheEschaton]

Well, your RT would be ridiculous.

TWC with polearms to begin with would probably be at least 8-9 seconds on a regular swing.

One unfocused MStrike would be 4 swings, you're already approaching 20 seconds. Maybe it's worth it, I dunno, because you're gonna kill things on the first hit...who knows.

-TheE-

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'll try it out, if not, can fixskills it back after May 20

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

My usual race, halfling, and he's a warrior. Thoughts?

At level 30: Ranks X
Armor Use 62 (2.0X)
Polearm Weapons 62 (2.0X)
Two Weapon Combat 62 (2.0X)
Combat Maneuvers 62 (2.0X)
Multi-Opponent Combat 42 (1.4X)
Physical Fitness 62 (2.0X)
Dodging 62 (2.0X)
Climbing 5 (0.2X)
Swimming 5 (0.2X)
Perception 31 (1.0X)
Harness Power 4 (0.1X)


Stat Bonus
STR 100 10
CON 100 35
DEX 72 26
AGL 67 18
DIS 77 8
AUR 85 12
LOG 74 17
INT 64 17
WIS 41 -4
INF 87 13

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by TheEschaton
You would need TWC for that, SHM.


-TheE-

Bullshit. I played a polearm bard prior to charge and he was a beast.

[Soulpieced]

You can't use any pole arm (one or two handed, obviously) with TWC.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Dang, blows that idea then. Thanks SP

[Shari]

Yeah, the pickpocketing is nice because I rarely get caught unless I'm stealing from a rogue, and nobody expects a bard to steal. However, while its a nice thing to do while I'm bored, I think it would be more beneficial to put it into lores and CM. Would Multi-oponent be a good idea too? And I do have my lores in telepathy because the only sonics I use is armor. If i increased my air lore would it soften the blows it takes when I'm struck? Or is that only against magical attacks that that applies to?

[Sean]

I can already see it now, she'll fix skills on the 20th and then on the 21st she'll start migrating into something else like an archer or a ambusher or some various other random skill set because she got bored.

[Shari]

Hey Jackass....I didn't move my polearms when I thought I wanted to do ranged. And this is a matter between stealing and CM so it's not something that crucial.

:bleh:

[Shari]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
Your swing suffers from that training but your race doesn't help that either.

I just noticed this. What would be something I would be more inclined to use race-wise? A bow? And is that even a good idea? I know there are bow-using bards but does using one proved a good defense and attack?

[Zanagodly]

You can still be a fine bard as a sylvan using poles. Don't let your race choice deter you from the way you want your character.

[TheEschaton]

Bow wielding bards are uber, especially once you get Song of Tonis.


-TheE-

[Bobmuhthol]

<<the pickpocketing is nice because I rarely get caught unless I'm stealing from a rogue>>

So true.

[Stunseed]

Thaxius was a really powerful hunting Bard with a bow.

[Galleazzo]

Jesae, what you do is lose the pickpocket, all of it. Go get locksmiths to crack them for you. Get 5 ranks of MOC so you get to pop a couple guys right off. Put all the rest into CM and work on sweep or hamstring. It kicks ass and you don't have to use 1005 nearly as much.

[Mistomeer]

Race doesn't really matter for a swinging bard. Bards get such nice AS bonus boosting spells that the race modifier is negligible, not to mention that the high dex bonus for a polearm user is nice for Roundtime.

My sylvan polearm using bard was trained pretty much trained likes this: 2x Polearm, 1x Dodge, 1x HP, 24 ranks EMC, 1x PT, 1x Spells and at least 1x CM with the goal being to be 2x CM (and some ranks of climbing, swimming, trading, etc).
I dropped lores since I trained up to 1010 then went for 425 and 430 to maximize AS.

[Fengus]

Originally posted by Jesae
...and nobody expects a bard to steal.


I'm not sure what this is even supposed to mean? I think you might mean no one suspects a bard.


Person says, "I expect to stolen from within the next minute, please!"

Person says, "No Bards! k thx"




Anyway, drop the PP get some CM and learn Charge.

[Mistomeer]

Originally posted by Fengus

Originally posted by Jesae
...and nobody expects a bard to steal.


I'm not sure what this is even supposed to mean? I think you might mean no one suspects a bard.


Person says, "I expect to stolen from within the next minute, please!"

Person says, "No Bards! k thx"






That made perfect sense to me.

[Anebriated]

one is past tense the other is future. that is about the only difference i can make of the two.

[Drew2]

Fengus your ignorance makes me angry at the world.

[Chadj]

Originally posted by TheEschaton
You would need TWC for that, SHM.


And a polearming bard, without Charge, is pretty weak. Ask Chad.

-TheE-

Charge is overrated. While it is very nice, a polearming bard is far from weak.

Chadj swings a 0 lb 7x lance at 5rt that flares a whole shit load (I cant remember the stats that i figured right now.. but i posted em elsewhere. I think it is something like, doing flares 80% of the time and averaging 25 damage per flare). Anyways, just because a polearming bard doesnt charge doesn't make it weak at all.. But charge does make ya a little bit more powerful :)

However, having good stats for a polearming bard is essential.. you can't really make any errors in it if you want to have a decent bard. I will send you an IM later on, Jesae, if you want some help with it. I know my fair share about bards ;).

[Edited on 5-17-2004 by Chadj]

[Shari]

Aww leave Fengus alone. He's always like this. I keep telling him if he didn't let his pink lace panties to ride so far up his ass he wouldn't be so bitter all the time, but he never listens!