Hurling Rogue

[Buckwheet]

So I picked up the javelin bando and I just haven't quite settled on the way I want to go. I am not sure if I want to TWC thrown or if I want to go shield.

Shield is appealing because of two reasons:

More defense, and lower round times. I can throw the javelin in 3 seconds with one of them. Its 6 seconds with both. So 1 second javelin throws.

So at 12 seconds with haste I have thrown 12 single shots or 3 double throws for 6 hits.

Anyways, primary will be hunting OTF. And this is my skills as they sit right now. Just not sure what to do with the off hand.



Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 302 202
Combat Maneuvers...................| 302 202
Thrown Weapons.....................| 302 202
Ambush.............................| 201 101
Physical Fitness...................| 302 202
Dodging............................| 302 202
Arcane Symbols.....................| 140 40
Magic Item Use.....................| 140 40
Harness Power......................| 150 50
Spirit Mana Control................| 90 20
Disarming Traps....................| 403 303
Picking Locks......................| 403 303
Perception.........................| 400 300
Climbing...........................| 105 25
Swimming...........................| 140 40

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 30

[Mr. Dallas]

It's basically the cool factor TWC thrown - vs not. TWC thrown has some mechanical downside (sniping comes to mind) - and if you become encumbered it gets that much worse that much faster in my opinion.

You'll need a great AGI/DEX and Strength. Cool toys like the one you have certainly help. You may want to pick up a returning thrown based weapon for parry defense if you go TWC - since it never really leaves your hand.

D.

[Victorj]

IMO, with only 2x dodge and no hiding, you should go shield. There's gonna be times where enemies will walk in when you're in offensive after a hurl, and having no shield, 2x dodge and no parry bonus is a pretty bad situation to be in, even in full plate.

[Asha]

I couldn't imagine RT after a swing without Vanish at hand just in case.

[Buckwheet]

IMO, with only 2x dodge and no hiding, you should go shield. There's gonna be times where enemies will walk in when you're in offensive after a hurl, and having no shield, 2x dodge and no parry bonus is a pretty bad situation to be in, even in full plate.


Just to answer this, I went with 2x shield. Without any of my fun spells:



swings a closed fist at you!
AS: +91 vs DS: +432 with AvD: -23 + d100 roll: +39 = -325
A clean miss.


That is my defense in offensive without any parry defense.



swings a closed fist at you!
AS: +91 vs DS: +467 with AvD: -23 + d100 roll: +38 = -361
A clean miss.


That is with the parry defense. So while 30 is quite a bit, it certainly isn't a game changer. I dropped perception and went to 290 ranks of dodge, but they are migrating/waiting for fixskill.

[kookiegod]

Hope you didnt drop ALL your perception!

The calculation of a character's attack strength while using thrown weapons depends on a character's dexterity, Thrown Weapons skill, Perception ranks, and Combat Maneuvers ranks.

AS = Thrown skill + ((STR Bonus + DEX Bonus)/2) + ((Perception ranks + CM ranks)/4)

Note: If you train more than twice per level in perception ranks, they add no further benefit.

I did the 2 weapon hurling thing, with the returning hammers and 4s RT, its not bad, even with 2x dodge and plate, it was DS deficient.

Good decision on the shield.

[Buckwheet]

I didn't drop all of it. I dropped the trippling.

[kookiegod]

I didn't drop all of it. I dropped the trippling.

Rockin! Was making sure before the fixskills. Looking out for ya! :)

[Stretch]

Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 302 202
Combat Maneuvers...................| 302 202
Thrown Weapons.....................| 302 202
Ambush.............................| 201 101
Physical Fitness...................| 302 202
Dodging............................| 302 202
Arcane Symbols.....................| 140 40
Magic Item Use.....................| 140 40
Harness Power......................| 150 50
Spirit Mana Control................| 90 20
Disarming Traps....................| 403 303
Picking Locks......................| 403 303
Perception.........................| 400 300
Climbing...........................| 105 25
Swimming...........................| 140 40

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 30


Ugh, SMC? Why?

And why all the armor use?

[Buckwheet]

SMC to get mana from my other characters.

All the armor use to make sure I get evasion.

[Buckwheet]

Rockin! Was making sure before the fixskills. Looking out for ya! :)

I appreciate that. So far I like it quite a bit.



An Ithzir seer folds her hands in front of herself, then opens her eyes!
An Ithzir seer is surrounded by an aura of natural confidence.
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With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a long-shafted rolaren javelin into flight.
You throw a long-shafted rolaren javelin at an Ithzir seer!
AS: +510 vs DS: +284 with AvD: +27 + d100 roll: +71 = +324
... and hit for 103 points of damage!
Strike through eye, the Ithzir seer is lobotomized!
The Ithzir seer falls to the ground in a crumpled heap.
The opalescent aura fades from around an Ithzir seer.
The deep blue glow leaves an Ithzir seer.
The Ithzir seer no longer bristles with energy.
The dim aura fades from around an Ithzir seer.
An Ithzir seer seems to lose an aura of confidence.
The rolaren javelin is lodged in an Ithzir seer's left eye!
Roundtime: 4 sec.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a long-shafted rolaren javelin into flight.
You throw a long-shafted rolaren javelin at an Ithzir herald!
AS: +510 vs DS: +398 with AvD: +22 + d100 roll: +68 = +202
... and hit for 52 points of damage!
Incredible shot to the eye penetrates deep into skull!
The Ithzir herald wheezes, an incredulous look on his face as he falls.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around an Ithzir herald.
The silvery luminescence fades from around an Ithzir herald.
The bright luminescence fades from around an Ithzir herald.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves an Ithzir herald.
The rolaren javelin is deflected to one side, sailing to the ground.
Roundtime: 4 sec.

With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a long-shafted rolaren javelin into flight.
You throw a long-shafted rolaren javelin at a war griffin!
AS: +510 vs DS: +334 with AvD: +20 + d100 roll: +37 = +233
... and hit for 54 points of damage!
Shot knocks the war griffin's head back by pushing on the inside of the skull!
The war griffin crashes to the ground, motionless.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a long-shafted rolaren javelin past a war griffin to land nearby.
Roundtime: 4 sec.

[Archigeek]

That really is one of the better bandoliers. Pure thrown goodness. Well done.

[Buckwheet]

Slowly adding in my spells and other fun tricks. So adding 29 attack seems to be good for now.



With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a long-shafted rolaren javelin into flight.
You throw a long-shafted rolaren javelin at a war griffin!
AS: +539 vs DS: +314 with AvD: +20 + d100 roll: +34 = +279
... and hit for 71 points of damage!
Incredible shot to the eye penetrates deep into skull!
The war griffin crashes to the ground, motionless.
The rolaren javelin flips over, landing behind a war griffin.
Roundtime: 4 sec.