Moreno

[KerosineKiller]

Guy puts something on the amunet, I ask a price then say I'll take it. Come to him with a note and this happens.




Moreno [Merchant]: "Sellin a heavy ironwood flail, 0x masterful critlThick glaes chain links have been attached to a sturdy iron ringed handle, the sheer thickness giving them a dangerous look. The hefty ironwood handle has numerous red stains a testament to the battles fought with this weapon. Carefully carved deep into the wood is the word, "Reaper". You also notice a small enchanter's glyph."

You (Focused to Moreno) [Merchant]: "How much for the flail?"

[Private]-GSIV:Moreno: "3m"

[PrivateTo]-GSIV:Moreno: "I'll take it"

Moreno whispers, "Apparently it's worth a lot more then 3m, a friend of mine just jumped on me telling me im crazy for trying to sell it for only 3m haha."

Moreno whispers, "Apparently it was last sold for 15m so 3m is way too low."

Moreno whispers, "I think I'm just gonna keep it, wasn't aware of what I had here.."

You quietly whisper to Moreno, "That's fucked up."

Moreno says, "Whats your deal."
J>
Moreno says, "You'd do the same if you were me."
J>
You say, "I think it's shady to list something for sale."
J>
You say, "Then take it back when someone agrees to your price and brings a note."

J>
Moreno shrugs at you.
J>l
[Sea Thrak Table]
You notice the green Arlathis disk.
Also here: Ranil, Moreno
Obvious exits: out
J>l ranil
You see Ranil Grinala the Warlord.
He appears to be a Half-Sylvan.
He is taller than average and appears to be in the prime of life. He has deep-set stormy grey eyes and tanned skin. He has short, jet black hair streaked with silver. He has an angular face, a straight nose and a neatly-trimmed beard.
He has a flat-bowled ironwood pipe clenched between his teeth.
He has some minor cuts and bruises on his left arm.
He is wearing an azure blue bag, a dark oilcloth sack, a brocade sack, a polished vultite shield, a dark cerulean crushed velvet cloak with a satin-trimmed hood, a tree bark amulet, a scratched steel pin, a shadowy black leather tool belt, a veniom trimmed leather weapon harness, some full plate, and a shuttered silver lantern charm.
J>l moreno
You see Moreno Rapture the Ravager.
He appears to be an Elf.
He is tall and appears to be very young. He has green eyes and tanned skin. He has raggedly cut, silver hair.
He has some minor cuts and bruises on his left hand, and some minor cuts and bruises on his right arm.
He is holding a kakore-hafted ora-spiked maul in his right hand.
He is wearing a crystal amulet, a long-stalked sunflower, a tree bark amulet, a rose-breasted onyx and glaes robin, some ensigiled half plate armor, a massive black war pack, an ink-black elven leather sack, a shadowy black weapons harness, and a hooded deep black elven cloak.


Moreno says, "It's shady to accept an item when you know it's worth more."

J>'You told me a price and I said I'll take it
You say, "You told me a price and I said I'll take it."
J>
Moreno says, "Which you know it is, which is why you're being a bitch about it."
J>
Moreno laughs at you!
J>
Moreno says, "Later."

[Asha]

Totally his call.

[Drew]

Moreno posts as Allen on the PC.

[KerosineKiller]

His item so he can do what he wants. Just frustrated by it all.

[allen]

yes I do, and I just played around with the flail, it's badass so I'm keeping it, get over it

[waywardgs]

Isn't this the item that someone posed as briarfox to gank it?

[Drew]

If you agree to a price you sell it for that amount, it's as simple as that. It is shady to renege on a sale, and I would avoid dealing with that kind of merchant. That kind of attitude is the same kind that leads to lying about items, etc. Basically it's Tsin type behavior.

[waywardgs]

Also, it's not worth 15m.

[BriarFox]

Isn't this the item that someone posed as briarfox to gank it?

No, but that was similar. That one was a 0x mcw morning star.

[waywardgs]

If you agree to a price you sell it for that amount, it's as simple as that. It is shady to renege on a sale, and I would avoid dealing with that kind of merchant. That kind of attitude is the same kind that leads to lying about items, etc. Basically it's Tsin type behavior.

^

[allen]

Also, it's not worth 15m.

No definitely not but someone told me that I'd be crazy to sell it for 3m and that I should keep it because of how hard it hit, this person previously owned it, so I decided to keep it. Shit on me all you want

[Dyslexia]

See: 4 slot greatsword

[waywardgs]

No definitely not but someone told me that I'd be crazy to sell it for 3m and that I should keep it because of how hard it hit, this person previously owned it, so I decided to keep it. Shit on me all you want

You know, a little humility goes a long way. You can decide to go back on the deal, but you don't have to be a defensive douche about it. Own up, say you rethought the sale and apologize. Be upstanding about it. At the moment you're just being a dick.

[4a6c1]

Kerosine Killer makes good music.

[Stretch]

Wait what?

I thought Moreno = Debia?

[Wharde]

Yeah, the name is a bit confusing.

[poloneus]

No, but that was similar. That one was a 0x mcw morning star.

And wasn't it Inspire=KersoineKiller that did it?

[BriarFox]

And wasn't it Inspire=KersoineKiller that did it?

Yep.

[diethx]

Yep.

LOL. Good on you then, Allen. Couldn't have fucked over a more deserving person.

[GoingGone]

Saying it's shady for buying something for less than it's worth? lol what's a douche comment. Anyone who uses a coupon, or bargain hunts, is shady! Anyone who doesn't foolishly sling their money about to the highest priced version of the item they seek, is shady!

..Moreno pulled a shady, dick move; but was well within his rights. Some people are just cool with being 'that guy' in the merchant world. You got Tsin'd. Lesson learned for all.

[Sam]

I could see this being a big deal if there was more than 3m involved, but eh.. it's a flail.

[Bobmuhthol]

..Moreno pulled a shady, dick move; but was well within his rights.

Really? You don't think an agreement to sell constitutes a binding contract?

[AnticorRifling]

Shady is the wrong word. Douche move? Yes. Shady? Not so much.

[allen]

Ok I've stood by long enough taking shots, he forgot to add that nearly 2 hours passed from the time he asked me about the price to the time he agreed to purchase the item. All of a sudden he showed up in my face waving a note when I told him I didn't want to sell it. Then he started cursing at me, so fuck him. The flail is sitting in my locker and probably will never move :shrug:

[Bobmuhthol]

You're saying 2 hours elapsed in this conversation:

You (Focused to Moreno) [Merchant]: "How much for the flail?"

[Private]-GSIV:Moreno: "3m"

[PrivateTo]-GSIV:Moreno: "I'll take it"

?

[AnticorRifling]

Those could easily be snippets.


After he said I'll take it did you agree/tell him to come to the table or did you say sorry man no longer for sale at that price or what?

[allen]

Yes 2 hours elapsed and I didn't tell him to come anywhere, he hunted me down waving a note in my face, which then I told him I decided to keep it. Then came the cursing.

[Tgo01]

Sounds kind of odd that he would ask you about the price, you tell him, then 2 hours later says he'll buy it then he hunts you down and tries to give you a note. He didn't bother to ask if the flail had been sold already or anything?

Also why was this suddenly bumped from almost a month ago with nothing new to add to the discussion at all? Why do we park on a driveway yet drive on a parkway? Why is my right hand stronger than my left one?

[shad0ws0ngs]

Why is my right hand stronger than my left one?

Masturbation

[allen]

Sounds kind of odd that he would ask you about the price, you tell him, then 2 hours later says he'll buy it then he hunts you down and tries to give you a note. He didn't bother to ask if the flail had been sold already or anything?

Also why was this suddenly bumped from almost a month ago with nothing new to add to the discussion at all? Why do we park on a driveway yet drive on a parkway? Why is my right hand stronger than my left one?


Who knows, maybe he asked someone about it like i did?

[Jace Solo]

Allen is a good merchant. I've never had issue with him. He is both trustworthy and willing to be generous with people that are in a lesser financial situation than he is. I believe, completely, that what he is saying here is true and that if it happened in that fashion to anyone of us in those circumstances we would feel/have acted in the same way. Some of us are more educated (ie. Briar, SSongs, Brute) I'm sure if it were worth that much more he would have gotten other offers which he declined.

He's a good person, sometimes he gets a little carried away but I believe a Tsin reference is far, far off the mark. I'd put him more on the "good merchant" list.

[JDDZ]

Good merchant, so what he held on to his item. The hating is over the top.

[AnticorRifling]

I think the hating was due to the assumption that the OPs series of events were seamless and not spaced over multiple hours with little to no additonal interaction or promise.

[Inspire]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=64052

[Tgo01]

Do you ever get tired of being yourself Inspire?

[Axhinde]

It's hard to be tired of being nothing.

[allen]

Hahaha holy shit, this guy is amazing

[Drew]

I get what he's doing "They all griefed me so I'll grief them to show them how it feels and deflect attention for myself!" Unfortunately it's not working.

[Sam]

It's like he pissed his pants and now he's trying to throw water on every one else's crotch. But he's terrible at it.

edit: and even if he succeeds, it's just water. Inspire, you smell like piss. Go away.

[Sean]

I get what he's doing "They all griefed me so I'll grief them to show them how it feels and deflect attention for myself!" Unfortunately it's not working.

It's unfortunate because he has a fair point but he's just so obnoxious in how he choose to deliver it that it negates everything.

[diethx]

Inspire, you smell like piss. Go away.

Quote of the week.

[vamosj]

Not the best of merchant moves, but it was still in possession so it was his call.

It's like watching pawnstars... They take something in with a price in mind.. but before the deal is made they bring in the expert that say's it's worth a lot more.... They aren't gonna sell it for that low price still..

[born yesterday]

i have only good things to say about Allen

sold him 5x DCW plate, bought 5x fire flaring handaxe, etc

~ IW

[Sam]

oh shit IW has your back. /thread

[Asha]

i have only good things to say about Allen

sold him 5x DCW plate, bought 5x fire flaring handaxe, etc

~ IW


oh shit IW has your back. /thread

:lol:

[diethx]

oh shit IW has your back. /thread

lol

Man I thought Insane was pathetic... IW really takes the cake though.

[Inspire]

lol

Man I thought Insane was pathetic... IW really takes the cake though.

Says the fat ass cat killer who trolls forums of games she doesn't play.

Seriously, you're not fooling anyone, we know you're an old nasty dried out trollwhore.

[Androidpk]

Says the fat ass cat killer who trolls forums of games she doesn't play.

Seriously, you're not fooling anyone, we know you're an old nasty dried out trollwhore.

Phat ass you mean. And what's this "we" shit? Diethx is awesome, and you're just a troll that no one likes.

[Warriorbird]

I always thought being "addicted" to weed made people chill and dimwitted. Inspire taught me different.

[Androidpk]

Crack != weed.

[diethx]

And what's this "we" shit?

Him and all his imaginary friends. He's made up a lot of them due to the fact that he can't get any real ones.

[Inspire]

Apparently people offering to pay for, or even paying Allen for something and him not providing it, is working for him.

This is why you don't listen to people who don't even play GS.

[Inspire]

Oh, and here is where Allen sells an ebow he doesn't even own.


http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=64052

[Inspire]

Rereading this thread makes me go WOW.

People hated on Allen for being shady.
Then people turned on me because they wanted to hate on me for awhile.
Then Allen tries to sell an ebow he doesn't own.
Then Allen burns 7 people for $1000.

Maybe the big dickhead Inspire isn't so bad after all?

[Asha]

Pointing it out would instantly cancel that out. Shhh.

[Sam]

I fail to see how Allen being shady makes you not shady.

[Asha]

I think he means less lol

[Inspire]

LOL Brute

[Brad]

Maybe the big dickhead Inspire isn't so bad after all?

In a way, I suppose it does. I think we can say the big dickhead Inspire isn't the worst person who plays Gemstone for sure. But there's still that first part.

[Tgo01]

Inspire you might come off as less of a dick if you didn't go around pointing out other dicks for the sole purpose of trying to look like less of a dick. It really makes you look like more of a dick.

Just some advice.

[Inspire]

I think it's funny that you think it matters to me if you think I'm a dick or not.


Who do you play? Do you even play? You're a mega troll as far as the PC goes but I don't really know anything else about you.

[Jhynnifer]

I think it's funny that you think it matters to me if you think I'm a dick or not.


Who do you play? Do you even play? You're a mega troll as far as the PC goes but I don't really know anything else about you.

If it didn't matter to you, you'd stop working so hard to look like a "good guy."

[Inspire]

Assumptions. You people are full of them.

I'm the bad guy. Happy now? Probably not, but Sheep are ignorant.

[Tgo01]

Assumptions. You people are full of them.

I'm the bad guy. Happy now? Probably not, but Sheep are ignorant.


Maybe the big dickhead Inspire isn't so bad after all?

I can't possibly imagine where we're getting these 'assumptions' from.

[Inspire]

I can't possibly imagine where we're getting these 'assumptions' from.

Good job avoiding questions about who you actually are.

[Tgo01]

Good job avoiding questions about who you actually are.

So if you knew who I was you would care about my opinions then?

[Inspire]

So if you knew who I was you would care about my opinions then?

Possibly, it depends on who you really are.

[Inspire]

Nevermind, you're just another troll who doesn't even play the game.


I haven't played this game in almost 6 months now and I've heard of the issues Rojo is talking about.

Don't you people have anything better to do?

[Brad]

This actually brings up an interesting situation. Now, lots of people seems pretty convinced of the assedness of Inspire. And lots of people see his responses as reflecting said assedness. But did the reputation come from his actions or are his actions seen that way because of his reputation?

I have no clue, either to the answer or to the reason to even ask such a question. Such is the mystery of Gemstone. (Well, that plus the question of dodging skill and combat maneuver defense)

[Lord Orbstar]

Inspire has never hosed me over although I know he has been less than forthcoming with others in the past. There is a lot of back and forth, tit for tat and social clumsiness in all these posts.

[Cusack]

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