What PsiNet can do for you

[JamusPsi]

The more I talk to people, especially new PsiNet users, the more I realize: people really don't know what they're getting in PsiNet. Sure, they've probably heard about the OOC channel (all bad things, of course) but they don't hear much about the OTHER features that come with it.

So I thought I'd post some of the more useful features here- the features people tell me they can't imagine playing without anymore.

If you use PsiNet and there's a feature I didn't list or one you particularly love, feel free to reply and let me know!

Chat System

The CHAT system allows you to communicate with anyone in the game in your thought window. You can create your own private channels for just your group of friends, or listen in the OOC channel, which is more or less the grey net with less RP. The Dark channel is available for the darker side of chat, so sex, drugs, and sailor speech is welcomed on PsiNet- at least there.

Typohelp and Spell Shortcuts

With the removal of spell prep wait, the whole prep phase is kind of a pain. Thus, PsiNet allows you to cast spells with much greater ease. To cast a spell on yourself, you simply type the number. 101 will be converted to "INCANT 101" and sent to the game. If you want to cast a spell on someone else, just include their name. "101 tay" becomes "PREP 101 / CAST TAYRE". PsiNet also provides a list of other verbs which convert to spell casts, such as FOG for 225, BIND for 214, EWAVE for 410, and a whole slew of others.

PsiNet also allows for automatic typo correction. Anyone who's played the game for awhile has Kissed someone when they meant to Look at them, most everyone has OREO'd, PRPE'd, or CSAT'd a spell, And I know more than a few have MEditated on the battlefield when they really meant to go NE.

Both of these features can be optionally disabled.

Alias

PsiNet allows you to create verbs that act like macros, sending other commands to the game instead. For instance, Taelrak has aliased DEM to "DEMON ILLUSION" so he can DEM DARKLING. Many people alias their combat maneuvers, opening and closing containers, wearing gold rings, and just about anything else.

MAGIC and SPELLUP

Perhaps one of the most useful features, MAGIC, automatically tracks your spell durations when you cast.

>magic
Usage: MAGIC [Person | LIST | SET | REMOVE | RESET | HELP ]

The following spells are currently active:

401: Elemental Defense I - 2 hours, 50 minutes, 23 seconds remaining.
406: Elemental Defense II - 2 hours, 50 minutes, 58 seconds remaining.
414: Elemental Defense III - 2 hours, 51 minutes, 28 seconds remaining.
503: Thurfel's Ward - 2 hours, 51 minutes, 32 seconds remaining.
507: Elemental Deflection - 2 hours, 36 minutes, 56 seconds remaining.
508: Elemental Bias - 2 hours, 33 minutes, 49 seconds remaining.
509: Strength - 2 hours, 37 minutes remaining.
513: Elemental Focus - 2 hours, 39 minutes, 38 seconds remaining.
520: Stone Skin - 12 minutes, 46 seconds remaining.
905: Prismatic Guard - 2 hours, 48 minutes, 44 seconds remaining.
911: Mass Blur - 3 hours, 3 minutes, 19 seconds remaining.
913: Melgorehn's Aura - 3 hours, 12 seconds remaining.
9901: Sign Striking/Smiting/Swords - 2 minutes, 14 seconds remaining.
9902: Sign Warding/Defending/Shields - 2 minutes, 15 seconds remaining.
9905: Sign Dissipation - 2 minutes, 16 seconds remaining.

By recording your skills and character level whenever you type SKILLS, PsiNet is able to calculate to the second the time remaining on your spellup. Typing MAGIC at any time displays your current magic status. If you have the SHAREMAGIC flag enabled, other PsiNet users can MAGIC you to see your magic status too- useful when they're going to spell you up.

The logical extension to this was SPELLUP. SPELLUP allows you to automatically cast a series of spells to spell yourself up. It integrates with MAGIC so it already knows what spells you have up and for how long, and only casts what you still need. You can configure it to exclude spells you don't use or include spells that aren't common, you can change the default duration it will stack your spells to, and change the minimum duration that a spell must drop to before being refreshed.

Because it's PsiNet, SPELLUP automatically detects what spells you know and how many casts it will take to spell you up, so a script for each character that you modify as they train is a thing of the past.

SPELLUP can also be used on other players!

PSINET LOCATE

People who don't know the spell 116 or don't enjoy the range restrictions in the game will appreciate PSINET LOCATE, which can be used to locate any PsiNet user currently in the game. By recording the last room description you saw in a temporary buffer, the PsiNet client can send it to people that ask for it. You always know when someone has located you, and who located you, and you can turn the option LOCATABLE off if you'd rather not share your location.

MoveAhead

MoveAhead is a Wizard FE-only feature which makes moving from place to place much, much easier and faster.

When typing on the number pad, we tend to overtype and hit typeahead restrictions a LOT. To counter this, MoveAhead is an optional feature which automatically catches your movements and slows them down, releasing them only as you receive room descriptions. PsiNet will keep you exactly one line ahead at all times so you will never go too fast and mess up, but won't slow down like a Wizard or StormFront script will, losing the benefit of typeahead. It takes some getting used to for button-mashers, but it makes scripts much much much faster because it correctly utilizes typeahead, especially for premium accounts.

As part of MoveAhead, you get a MOVE verb which allows you to queue multiple moves on one line. For instance, to go from TSC in the landing to North Market in Solhaven, you can simply type (or even macro) MOVE NW 2N E N GO GATE SW 5S SW S SE S SE 3S SW 2S 2SE SW W 4S 2SE 2NE 2E GO BRID SE S SE S E 2S SW 4S E 2SW E SE SW W SW E 4SE S GO STREAM 3SW 2S SW GO FORD 4S 2SE 2SW S 2SW 2S SW SE UP S SW S DOWN S GO RAMP 7W 2SW 2S GO ROADWAY W 6S 2E SE S SE E GO COLUMNS UP S SE 2E 4S SE 7D SE 3SW GO BRID 2SW 2S 5SW 4S 5SW 2S SW 5W NW W GO RAVINE S DOWN SW 2S SW GO BRID UP 4SE S

Mail

PsiNet offers a mailbox to every character, and you can write the mail from inside the game window. It's easier than ever to send someone a message while they're not in the game, for them to pick up later.

Containers

PsiNet gives you a larger set of STOW-like verbs which you can set to any container, like PACK, SACK, and CLOAK. Typing the verb and a noun will put the item in that container, while typing the verb by itself (i.e., SACK) will LOOK IN it.

With Containers comes AWAY, whicih is like a beefed-up STOW. It automatically recognizes many, many, many common nouns, and when you AWAY them it will put the item in its appropriate container. For instance, you can configure it to put all gems in your pouch, and all herbs in your sack. If the item isn't recognized, it will STOW it. (Many people simply alias STOW=AWAY for convenience)

XP and MIGRATE

The XP and MIGRATE verbs allow you to track your progress and the rate at which you absorb exp and migrate skills. For instance:


xp
Level: 22 Deeds: 0
Experience: 568914 Deaths this level: 0
Exp. until next: 48086 Death Recovery: 0
Mental TPs: 0 Fame: 1277804
Physical TPs: 20 Mana: 107/107 max
(344 Phy converted to Mnt)

Time since last check: 1 hour, 15 minutes, 50 seconds Time since first check: 1 hour, 40 minutes, 58 seconds
Fame Since Last: 10816 (142 per minute, 8557 per hour.)
Fame Since First: 10816 (107 per minute, 6427 per hour.)

Exp. Since Last: 2177 (28 per minute, 1722 per hour, 1 day, 3 hours, 55 minutes, 1 second until level.)
Exp. Since First: 2177 (21 per minute, 1293 per hour, 1 day, 13 hours, 10 minutes, 10 seconds until level.)
XP RESET to reset scan data.

Your mind is numbed.

BANKS

For those of you who are not premium members, PsiNet offers a simple way to remember your bank balances. Whenever you CHECK your balance, PsiNet will record the balance for that bank account, which can be listed at any time by typing BANKS. For instance:


>banks
You draw on the mental power of the PsiNet to recall your bank balances.

Wehnimer's Landing : 492557 silvers.
Solhaven : 156045 silvers.
Elven Nations : 937778 silvers.
Total : 1586380 silvers.

(This only records the balanced CHECKed in the bank. If you make a deposit or withdrawal from your bank account without CHECKing afterward, it will NOT be reflected here.)
Type BANKS RESET to clear these balances.


A similar locker manifest is on the way. :)

Other

Other features include reimplementing the old language verbs (GUILD, ELVEN, SYLVAN, etc.). the ability to COUNT the number of times a string appears in your game (great for artisan skills, voln favor, and tracking item charges), a RESTMODE verb which logs whispers and chats and doesn't go off when your cat hits your keyboard, and more!

If there's anything I left out, post it and let me know why you use PsiNet. If you AREN'T a PsiNet user, let me know what YOU would like to see that would make PsiNet useful for YOU.

Happy playing!
Jamus Sprinson
Brian Arsuaga

[Kadumi]

Moveahead!

Ever wanted to get from one end of north ring road to the other without stopping? Just drum on the 'e' key and keep hittin return like there's no tomorrow!

You'll never see that 'can only type ahead one line' garbage ever again! Yay!

[Nakiro]

:cheers:

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Jamus, I noticed if I try to set an alias to something that is already defaulted (lets say Bane for instance), it won't let me...

I prefer bane to be channeled, not cast so tried to redefine it, but it doesn't let you.

[JamusPsi]

CBANE and CSMITE are already there to do that.

This has come up a couple times with different typo correcters that have priority over aliases. (The alias Bane never gets touched because it's immediately corrected to prep 302/cast, in typohelp).

I'm looking at a fix now. :)
Jamus

[Drew2]

psinet typohelp spells
As long as the SpellShorts option is enabled in PSINET OPTIONS, PsiNet will look for and implement the following verbs to their corresponding spell:

DISINT will be changed to 705
LIMB will be changed to 708
IMPLODE will be changed to 720
DC will be changed to 719
BOIL will be changed to 917
MD will be changed to 702
BONE will be changed to 1106
BANE will be changed to 302
SMITE will be changed to 302
CMD will be changed to CHAN 702
CBONE will be changed to CHAN 1106
CBANE will be changed to CHAN 302
CSMITE will be changed to CHAN 302
ELD will be changed to 417
SPD will be changed to 119
EMD will be changed to 1140
FEAR will be changed to 1108
EWAVE will be changed to 410
WIND will be changed to 912
QUAKE will be changed to 709
JOLT will be changed to 706
TONIS will be changed to 505
LEECH will be changed to 516
BIND will be changed to 214
WEB will be changed to 118
CALM will be changed to 201
UNWEB will be changed to 209
FOG will be changed to 225
SANCT will be changed to 213
MSANCT will be changed to 220
SURGE will be changed to 1107
LOCATE will be changed to 116
LK will be changed to 305
EBLADE will be changed to 411
EDGE will be changed to 902
DETECT will be changed to 405
STRIKE will be changed to 117
HASTE will be changed to 506
RAPID will be changed to 515
INVIS will be changed to 916
SPIKE will be changed to 616

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

ah sweet, didn't know those other commands. Is there a way to get a list of all the shortcuts you've made? I now know, bane, the two above and ewave, lol...

[Drew2]

...

[Artha]

Other features include reimplementing the old language verbs (GUILD, ELVEN, SYLVAN, etc.)

Speaking of which, this isn't on for the new races.


PsiNet kicks so much ass it makes my ass hurt.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

heh, Damn you Tayre!

[JamusPsi]

PSINET TYPOHELP LIST and PSINET TYPOHELP SPELLs, here for your convenience:



>psinet typohelp list
The PsiNet client will recognize and correct the following typos:

K will be corrected to L
THINK TP will be corrected to THINK TO
THINK TI will be corrected to THINK TO
GOT ABLE will be corrected to GO TABLE
RCOY will be corrected to EXIT
PRPE will be corrected to PREP
PERP will be corrected to PREP
OREO will be corrected to PREP
CSAT will be corrected to CAST
AST will be corrected to CAST
SNUKE will be corrected to SMILE
KIIJ will be corrected to LOOK
M will be corrected to NORTH
ME will be corrected to NORTHEAST
MW will be corrected to NORTHWEST
GI will be corrected to GO
WIHS will be corrected to WHIS
COMM will be corrected to SPEAK COMMON
COMMON will be corrected to SPEAK COMMON
HUMAN will be corrected to SPEAK COMMON
ELVEN will be corrected to SPEAK ELVEN
SYLVAN will be corrected to SPEAK SYLVAN
DARK will be corrected to SPEAK DARK
GIANT will be corrected to SPEAK GIANT
DWARVEN will be corrected to SPEAK DWARVEN
HALFLING will be corrected to SPEAK HALFLING

Type PSINET TYPOHELP by itself for more information.

>psinet typohelp spells
[Edited to snip this because Tayre already posted it. Oops.]


[Edited on 5-2-2004 by JamusPsi]

[Drew2]

You best recognize.

[Jenisi]

Yeah I have it, and love it!!! Gooooooo Jamus!

[Kitsun]

I'm waiting for Simu to hire Jamus and make the program official before I use it. Get cracking on the application!

[Soulpieced]

Wow, that is a lot of functionality.

[TheEschaton]

Props to Soulpie for having rpgworld in his sig.


Furthermore, I, like Kitsun, am waiting for an official sorta guarantee on the program. Not that I have anything against Jamus, but I'm paranoid.

Furthermore, what if I don't want the chat, locatable, etc, etc stuff? Can I be masked from the general population? I understand admins being able to see everyone, I guess.

-TheE-

[Bobmuhthol]

If you don't want to be on chat, don't tune to a channel.

>psinet options
You reflect upon your psychic technique.

Global PsiNet Client Options
RECONNECT: Enabled
KEEPALIVE: Enabled
TYPOHELP: Disabled
SPELLSHORTS: Enabled
TYPOSILENT: Enabled
ALIASSILENT: Enabled
MAGICTRACK: Enabled
Personal Options
SHOWWINDOW: Disabled
BIDRESPONSE: Enabled
HEALHELP: Enabled
TYPEAHEADCOUNT: 1
MOVEAHEAD: Enabled
CONTAINERS: Enabled
ALIASES: Enabled
FAMILIARCHAT: Disabled
AUTOREST: Disabled
LOCATABLE: Enabled
SHARESKILLS: Enabled
SHAREMAGIC: Enabled

Or, if you want to use PsiNet's features sans the interacting with other PsiNet users, just PSINET UNLINK.

[Drew2]

Yes. You can turn off locate, skill sharing, public chatting, etc. You can make it so you can only chat on your own private channels, to people in private, or you can just PSINET UNLINK all together and use all the non-communication features while not connected to the Psinet server.

[Snapp]

Psinet rocks. I can't imagine not having it now. :thumbsup: to Jamus.

[Pallon]

So what's the holdup on the Mac version

[Artha]

Maybe he's waiting for macs to stop sucking balls.

[Pallon]

Oh no you didn't

[Tisket]

Love Psinet but just a warning about the auto spellup for rangers. Remember if you are not outside to cast 625 on yourself before typing spellup auto. Psinet casts it last so 606 misfires and wastes mana.

Otherwise a huge thumbsup for the whole system.

[Edited on 5-2-2004 by Tisket]

[Artha]

Sweet new PsiNet feature:

DEAD>magic
Usage: MAGIC [Person | LIST | SET | REMOVE | RESET | HELP ]

The following spells are currently active:

6666: Decaying - 12 minutes, 3 seconds remaining.

[Latrinsorm]

Hey uh, where do we download this again?

[Tisket]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Hey uh, where do we download this again?

http://psinet.cjb.net/

[Latrinsorm]

Cool thx.

[Nieninque]

Wow! Jamus...the tracking other peoples spell times is amazing!

[Skirmisher]

Jamus, I have not downloaded this and also am one of those who would find it difficult to do so without some official affiliation with the SIMU machine.

Let me say however I find your program remarkable and if they in fact have not made extensive overtures to you, that is quite unfortunate.

[Anebriated]

I have used PSInet for awhile, its amazing. With the recent seperation of channels(OOC becoming OOC and DARK) it has become alot more clean and bearable. For anyone who hasnt tried it yet I would suggest it.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Nieninque
Wow! Jamus...the tracking other peoples spell times is amazing!

Could someone clarify for me about the spell time tracking?

It will allow anyone with psinet to see the spell times of anyone else with psinet?

I guess the questionI have is this: If someone NOT on psinet were to cast spells on me, would someone using psinet be able to determine the time remaining?

[Artha]

If someone NOT on psinet were to cast spells on me, would someone using psinet be able to determine the time remaining?

Nope.

[Anebriated]

magic set <spell number> <duration of spells>

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I guess the questionI have is this: If someone NOT on psinet were to cast spells on me, would someone using psinet be able to determine the time remaining?>>

PsiNet will display the minimum duration, which in most cases, will be incorrect. You can set a spell and duration manually if necessary.

[Skirmisher]

I didnt think so, but figured i would ask anyway heh.

Thanks!

[Tisket]

In regard to those that are hesitant to try Psinet, some stated their desire that Simu officially sanction the program before they are willing to try it. Personally, I think Simutronic's silence speaks volumes. I cannot imagine them remaining silent regarding anything that threatens their customer base.

Might your hesitancy have something to do with the possibility that Jamus might misuse your account information? Maybe I am just be too Pollyanna to give that idea credence. What is the worse case scenario? He cannot transfer characters without the password and answer to the secret question. He cannot change passwords without knowing your current password. He cannot send a gift of adventure to himself without the password. He cannot get bank account info (hell, I cannot get that info when logged in except for the last four digits of the account my payment is coming out of).

My question would be CAN Jamus get my password? Maybe the answer is obvious to those that are not technologically impaired. Anyone else know? I just wish I understood the whole thing a little better.

[lexbubba]

Please Note: Due to changes in the Simutronics Website, it is NO LONGER compatible with the PsiNet client when using Microsoft Internet Explorer. You must use either the Simutronics SGE or a third-party SGE program to access the game for PsiNet to be active. (Some users are able to login using play.net with Mozilla or Netscape browsers.)

I cannot figure out how to launch the PsiNet client. How do I do this?

[Bobmuhthol]

Use an SGE to log in.

<<He cannot change passwords without knowing your current password.>>

Jamus could get your password, but doesn't, and he's already stated that he won't release his code because someone can manipulate it so that it does steal passwords. Either you trust his word or you don't.

[Tisket]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Use an SGE to log in.

<<He cannot change passwords without knowing your current password.>>

Jamus could get your password, but doesn't, and he's already stated that he won't release his code because someone can manipulate it so that it does steal passwords. Either you trust his word or you don't.

Pay attention Bobmuhthol. I do trust him or I would not have Psinet. The point of my post was to find out what exactly is holding people back from signing up.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<My question would be CAN Jamus get my password?>>

I answered the question. What's the problem?

[Latrinsorm]

This thing kicks ass.

Question: when I'm scripting around, the moveahead thing yells at me. What's the deal with that?

[Bobmuhthol]

Log plz?

[Tisket]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
<<My question would be CAN Jamus get my password?>>

I answered the question. What's the problem?

No problem really. Just that Jamus cannot address concerns if they are not clarified. So he can get passwords. Is this the sole reason for some peoples hesitancy? I haven't any doubt that Simu is perched ready to pounce on Jamus the second there is a whisper of misuse.

[TheEschaton]

Simu actually HAS responded to Jamus.


It was a pretty interesting thread, a month or so ago. Apparently GMs like using PsiNet as well, as their PCs.

-TheE-

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Log plz? *** MoveAhead has not received a room description in 3 seconds. You may have gotten stalled. Type MOVE STOP or STOP to reset the movement queue so that you can send movement commands again, or if there is lag, you can wait for the movement to continue.

It says that. Sometimes with more seconds. This is while I'm scripting.

[JamusPsi]

You never input your simutronics account password into the PsiNet client, and it never passes through PsiNet either. When you login via the SGE, you are connecting to eaccess.play.net. You send it your account name and password, and choose the game and character you want to play. That server assigns you a login key- which is a string of 32 random letters and numbers like j5h2hr8cn4j54hn. Then the SGE sends that key to the Launcher, which sends the key to the Wizard or StormFront FE.

When you login to the game server, you send your login key- NOT your account or password- to the game server, which matches it with what it gave you when you logged in on the SGE. That's how the game knows what character to put you into.

The keys CAN be used more than once (someone pointed this out to me) but are changed every few hours, by Simu, for security. So, worst case scenario, if your key were compromised, someone could have access to your character, in-game, during a very short time frame.

The key cannot be used to retrieve your password.

For those of you waiting for Simutronics sanctioning of PsiNet.. I have bad news. It's not going to happen, not ever. Frankly, if they wanted PsiNet, they would simply implement similar features into the game itself. Their game rules do not allow instant communication between any two points, and PsiNet allows you to circumvent that.

I have not shared my source code with Simu, nor have they asked, and that would be the _minimum_ necessary for them to reasonably vouch for PsiNet. Even that would not be sufficient for Simu, though- I would almost certainly have to be in a contractual agreement with the company, or even part of the company.

I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.

No, Simutronics does not endorse PsiNet. However, they do have some tips for running third party applications at http://www.play.net/gs4/tips/security.asp. "The worst part about this particular scam is that there are so many honest people out there who write nifty utilities with absolutely no intention of stealing your password. We cannot give official approval to any of them, so you will have to assess the risk yourself and make the choice to use them or not." I had a conversation with Melissa and Brauden about PsiNet which may help to assuage your fears. http://forum.gsplayers.com/viewthread.php?tid=5498. This thread also contains many answers to similar questions asked by other forum users.

Some quick responses to other posts:

Tisket, yes, I think their silence also says something.. especially since Melissa told me, rather bluntly, that she'd take action if they found PsiNet to be a threat. She was scary.

The ShareSkills (for magic durations) ShareMagic (for sharing your magic status), and Locate features of PsiNet can be disabled via options, for those who have privacy concerns.

Watching this thread eagerly,
Jamus
Brian

[Bobmuhthol]

That's because you tried to move, go, or climb and didn't get a new room description because of lag or you fucked up.

[JamusPsi]

Because MoveAhead holds back your movements until you have moved rooms, it keeps track of when you receive room descriptions. If you don't get one for three seconds (after trying to move) it notices and lets you know that it still expects one to come. After 10 seconds it assumes something has gone wrong, and gives up, allowing you to send movements normally again.

It sounds scary, I know. I'm working on finding a better way to explain it in the messages, which cause people to tell me things like "I hate moveahead! It yells at me all the time and I don't know why!"

:-p

Jamus
Brian

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
That's because you tried to move, go, or climb and didn't get a new room description because of lag or you fucked up. No it isn't. I was moving just fine.

edit: I was getting room descriptions. I was moving fine. It just kept saying that to me.

[Edited on 5-2-2004 by Latrinsorm]

[Anebriated]

i just squelched the line and dont bother with it...

[Soulpieced]

I haven't paid much attention, nor am I a user, but what language did you implement PsiNet in?

[JamusPsi]

C++ using Windows Sockets 2. Because PsiNet is, more than anything, a learning project for me, almost all the libraries it uses are home-written. (including strings, vectors, sockets, files, parsing, etc.)

Jamus,
Brian.

[Nakiro]

PSINET OPTIONS MOVEAHEAD OFF works too.

[Nieninque]

Yeah but its good to have moveahead working but not get bugged by that line all the time, therefore squelching is better.

[lexbubba]

How to I launch the game using SGE? The only way I know how to enter the game is through the website and that doesn't launch PsiNet

[Skirmisher]

Download the SGE from the SIMU website.

Its a very small program, and should take only a minute or so even if on dialup.

[TheEschaton]

Getting to the download page is kinda hard, though, since they don't link it to anywhere that's easy to find. The website is:

software.play.net

-TheE-

[Anebriated]

Jamus also has an AutoSGE if you trust him. I have been using it for awhile and it's great. Extremely easy to use, very fast. Another grade A program from Jamus.

[Nakiro]

This is the link to the webpage:

http://www.play.net/gs4/downloads/

This is the direct link:

http://www.play.net/software/sg32inst.exe

Toodles.

[Wezas]

Jamus, for some reason my AutoSGE isn't starting up PSInet (currently using version 2.0 of AutoSGE). PSInet starts up fine if I use the regular SGE. Anyone else having this problem?

[JamusPsi]

Hmm.. I think I know what the problem is.

Try this: Uninstall PsiNet, then go to http://software.play.net and download the Simutronics Game Launcher again. Install it, then reinstall PsiNet.

Think that'll fix it. :)

Jamus
Brian

[Chyrain]

um...is there a reason why someone like myself wouldn't be able to link to the psinet for the last day or so? *sniff*

[Artha]

You don't have the latest version installed. Get on, type Psinet Update Download. It'll prompt you when it's done, type Psinet Update Install. If that doesn't work, just get the version from the web site.

[Chyrain]

um...thanks. I only play a retard in Gemstone.

[gcstader]

how come BANKS doesn't recongnize teras isle? it would also be cool if BANKS would account for the silvers/notes you have on you.


[Edited on 5-4-2004 by gcstader]

[JamusPsi]

With the latest update, released last night, Teras bank will work. :)

Jamus, Brian

[HarmNone]

You have a hell of a program there, Jamus. I'm sure an amazing amount of work has gone into it, and it seems to cover a wide variety of needs and wishes for the players. Now that there is a "dark" channel, I would be more likely to use it (if I played, that is). The way it was before, I'd have rather been beaten to death with an oar than try it. ;)

HarmNone

[Nakiro]

Originally posted by HarmNone
You have a hell of a program there, Jamus. I'm sure an amazing amount of work has gone into it, and it seems to cover a wide variety of needs and wishes for the players. Now that there is a "dark" channel, I would be more likely to use it (if I played, that is). The way it was before, I'd have rather been beaten to death with an oar than try it. ;)

HarmNone

Just a rant here, but coming from someone as accepting and permissive as you, I find that rather aggrivating.

Do some people not like the OOC channel for its vulgarity, or trash talk? Of course. Then again, some people obviously do.

But what upsets me isn't that there is a difference of opinion in this matter. What upsets me are people who use this as fodder for not giving the client a reasonable chance.

To make a few points, no one likes to be limited in their speech. This is obvious in the existance of this forum. Why would it exist if people didn't mind the censorship that occurs on the offical boards?

Yet at the same time, people are begging for it on the OOC channel. Why? I don't know. I do know though that there are plenty of options for those who don't like OOC but would like to use Psinet.

First option, UNTUNE. Or better yet, never tune to OOC at all. If I'm correct it isn't the default chat channel until a user sets it as a preference. There are literally a dozen other channels to chat on, and if you asked I am absolutely positive Jamus could create another. Heck, there are THREE OTHER OOC channels already. Simply tune OOC2 or OOC3 or OOC4 would work fine.

Second, don't bother connecting at all. If you chose to delink, psinet can be set so it never links to the server, thus remaining a local program with the added alias, typo help, and other functions on it. These are things worth considering, but throwing them out simply because you don't like what is essentially an optional feature is rediclious.

Beaten to death with an oar, really? You would have rather died a brutal death before trying a client which had a (singular) feature you didn't like, that was optional nonetheless? Really? Is it just me, or is that a practice of ignorance?

One of the greatest things about psinet is that it does contain so many options. User privacy is one of the top priorities for the client, and Jamus has taken every measure thinkable to ensure it.

Saying you will not use psinet because OOC is trash is itself trash. Do yourself a favor, try it out, just don't tune to OOC. You'll thank yourself later.

And hey, if you decide to change your mind and tune in for awhile, that's great too. We're not always down and dirty :spaz: !

[Latrinsorm]

One is not automatically tuned to OOC when one first uses PsiNet.

Nakiro has a star next to his name. :giggle:

[Drew2]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Nakiro has a star next to his name. :giggle:

My star couldn't decide if it wanted to stay with me so I just saved it the trouble.

Bye OOC.

[Edited on 5-5-2004 by Tayre]

[Artha]

...wha?

>peek dark
You request a list of the people on the channel dark.

You sense that there is nobody tuned to the Dark channel.

>tune dark
That doesn't seem to be a channel you are currently tuned to.
If you proceed, you will tune into the chat channel "dark". If it does not exist, it will be created for you. Are you sure that's what you meant to do?
To tune to that channel, TUNE to it again. If you were trying to TUNE an instrument, prefix the command with a !, as in !tune my lute.

>tune dark
You focus your mind in an attempt to link with a channel on the PsiNet.
The PsiNet informs you that you are not allowed in the Dark channel.

[HarmNone]

Heh. Like I said, Nakiro, I do not play GemStone anymore. I have not played in some years now. However, one of the big drawing cards for Psinet, to me, would be the ability to communicate with everyone in the game, regardless of where their character is located at the moment. The downside of that would be the absolute, mind-numbing idiocy of the conversations I've seen copy/pasted to these boards. To put it bluntly...NO THANKS!

Accepting I am, yes. I am close to impossible to shock, and very difficult to anger. Am I permissive? Probably not, Nakiro, ole buddy. What I overlook on these boards I overlook because of the nature of these boards, the TOS, and Kranar's/CT's vision for the boards. It is not MY decision to make as to what is acceptable here and what is not acceptable. It is theirs. I am fully capable of honoring that decision, and hold myself accountable to do so in a way that meets their needs, and the needs of the posters as a whole. My personal feelings do not enter into it.

HarmNone

[Artha]

The downside of that would be the absolute, mind-numbing idiocy of the conversations I've seen copy/pasted to these boards. To put it bluntly...NO THANKS!

Heh, to be fair...only the worst/funniest get pasted here.

[HarmNone]

I have no doubt of the truth of that statement, Artha. However, just reading that inane babbling here (and scanning for content only) is often enough to nearly make my head asplode!

HarmNone, who hates asploded head.......of any kind

[Nakiro]

Originally posted by HarmNone
Heh. Like I said, Nakiro, I do not play GemStone anymore. I have not played in some years now. However, one of the big drawing cards for Psinet, to me, would be the ability to communicate with everyone in the game, regardless of where their character is located at the moment. The downside of that would be the absolute, mind-numbing idiocy of the conversations I've seen copy/pasted to these boards. To put it bluntly...NO THANKS!

Accepting I am, yes. I am close to impossible to shock, and very difficult to anger. Am I permissive? Probably not, Nakiro, ole buddy. What I overlook on these boards I overlook because of the nature of these boards, the TOS, and Kranar's/CT's vision for the boards. It is not MY decision to make as to what is acceptable here and what is not acceptable. It is theirs. I am fully capable of honoring that decision, and hold myself accountable to do so in a way that meets their needs, and the needs of the posters as a whole. My personal feelings do not enter into it.

HarmNone

I think you missed the point of my post entirely.

[TheEschaton]

I've found another thing PSINET can apparently do.


Coordinate large, SWAT-like assassinations on idiots and snerts.


Yes, I caved, and DLed it.

-TheE-

[Mint]

Originally posted by Artha
...wha?

>tune dark
You focus your mind in an attempt to link with a channel on the PsiNet.
The PsiNet informs you that you are not allowed in the Dark channel.

Maybe you have to be 18 to tune in there. Heh.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Mint

Originally posted by Artha
...wha?

>tune dark
You focus your mind in an attempt to link with a channel on the PsiNet.
The PsiNet informs you that you are not allowed in the Dark channel.

Maybe you have to be 18 to tune in there. Heh.

PWNED, by mint, even.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Nakiro
I think you missed the point of my post entirely.

Nope. I got your point. I think you may have missed some of mine. ;)

To quote you:
>>Do some people not like the OOC channel for its vulgarity, or trash talk? Of course. Then again, some people obviously do.

But what upsets me isn't that there is a difference of opinion in this matter. What upsets me are people who use this as fodder for not giving the client a reasonable chance.

To make a few points, no one likes to be limited in their speech. This is obvious in the existance of this forum. Why would it exist if people didn't mind the censorship that occurs on the offical boards?<<

Just as some people do not like to be limited in their speech, others do not like to hear what those people have to say in the particular way said people may choose to say it. While the content may be interesting, the delivery often negates any interest. :)

I think these boards exist for more reasons than just to circumvent the censorship on the official boards. There are also fewer posters here than there, and a closer sense of community, in some ways. For me, it is about a lot more than just the ability to use vulgarity. It is about being able to talk about things more directly, without the risk of offending one of the PTB or breaking one of the many, obscure "rules".

From you:

>>Beaten to death with an oar, really? You would have rather died a brutal death before trying a client which had a (singular) feature you didn't like, that was optional nonetheless? Really? Is it just me, or is that a practice of ignorance?

One of the greatest things about psinet is that it does contain so many options. User privacy is one of the top priorities for the client, and Jamus has taken every measure thinkable to ensure it.<<

The other options do not really interest me. I never used such options when I played the game. A macro here and there for repetitive actions was all I used. I was the type to type it all in. I type very fast, so it wasn't a problem for me. I preferred it that way. How much longer on my spells? Would the character know that to the nanosecond? I don't think so. Therefore, that kind of thing did not, and does not, interest me.

Last quote:

>>Saying you will not use psinet because OOC is trash is itself trash. Do yourself a favor, try it out, just don't tune to OOC. You'll thank yourself later.<<

As I have said, downloading Psinet would do me absolutely no good. I do not play GemStone. If I did, the only thing that would interest me at all would be the ability to contact those in outlying areas, or to be contacted if I was needed. To have to have all that babble going on would be intolerable to me.

I never tuned to the thought-nets in-game once they became a hotbed of OOC gibberish. If I needed to speak to someone about something when I was playing, AIM or ICQ worked just fine. I did not even use them to facilitate in-game rescues, or other such needs. They were used for OOC purposes only, and very rarely. Again, that was simply my preference.

So, you see, I did get your point. I just do not feel about it as you do. :)

HarmNone