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Been working on getting my HP up and seem to have capped out at 187. I am a Paladin with 40 spell ranks so I am getting the full bonus from 1616 on that aspect. Have one rank of combat toughness and when I switch into my enhancives I gain 8 more con. Is there a set number to added con per HP? Any help would be great. I want 200 HP!
grossm
03-20-2011, 12:29 AM
www.lmktfy.net/?q=hp
Yup, so I am over max, but capped? Or do I have room to go higher? Also, of course I krakii'd that shit.
Fallen
03-20-2011, 11:05 AM
I have 140 Health with a maxed Con stat and no enhancives. So that is the max you can get via your race and CON without enhancives.
Guess I'll just have to dig deeper into the math with 1616 and con enhancives to see what I can top out at. Was just hopin someone was more informed then me.
Kithor
03-21-2011, 01:05 PM
From: http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Enhancive_item
The most you can boost your max health by is +50
Assuming the official site is correct: http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=13#1616
With 40 spell ranks and no blessing lore 1616 should increase your max hp by 25 (+5 from the extra con, and +20 from the straight HP bonus).
Combat Toughness: http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Toughness
So 2 ranks in Combat Toughness should net you another +25 max hp, which will reach the max of +50.
If you reach 55 ranks of Blessing lore that would net you another +10 health bonus from 1616 and allow you to only need 1 rank in Combat Toughness to hit the +50 cap.
Those, combined with a 100 con as a Dark Elf should make your top max hp limit 190.
whiteflash
03-21-2011, 01:32 PM
From: http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Enhancive_item
The most you can boost your max health by is +50
Assuming the official site is correct: http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=13#1616
With 40 spell ranks and no blessing lore 1616 should increase your max hp by 25 (+5 from the extra con, and +20 from the straight HP bonus).
Combat Toughness: http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Toughness
So 2 ranks in Combat Toughness should net you another +25 max hp, which will reach the max of +50.
If you reach 55 ranks of Blessing lore that would net you another +10 health bonus from 1616 and allow you to only need 1 rank in Combat Toughness to hit the +50 cap.
Those, combined with a 100 con as a Dark Elf should make your top max hp limit 190.
Thanks for the info, makes more sense now. There is a HARD cap of +50 health from your racial max, perhaps based on a 100 CON, that you can not go over even with CON enhancives. I'm guessing GTG not having a 100 str (and corresponding natural bonus) pre-enhancive is why he's getting stopped at 187 currently, and not 190.
Merala
03-21-2011, 01:37 PM
From: http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Enhancive_item
The most you can boost your max health by is +50
Assuming the official site is correct: http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=13#1616
With 40 spell ranks and no blessing lore 1616 should increase your max hp by 25 (+5 from the extra con, and +20 from the straight HP bonus).
Combat Toughness: http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Toughness
So 2 ranks in Combat Toughness should net you another +25 max hp, which will reach the max of +50.
If you reach 55 ranks of Blessing lore that would net you another +10 health bonus from 1616 and allow you to only need 1 rank in Combat Toughness to hit the +50 cap.
Those, combined with a 100 con as a Dark Elf should make your top max hp limit 190.
Does that include enhancives to max HP? Or just con enhancives?
I've tried both max HP enhancives and con enhancives, seems toughness wouldn't net me the total benefit either unless I met some other criteria, be it con or whatever.
Kithor
03-21-2011, 11:44 PM
If you read the full krakiipedia entry for enhancive items that I linked it says: "These limits do not stack with one another. For example, if a character boosts his CON statistic, it raises his hit points and stamina. Those boosts will not stack beyond the max for health boosters and stamina boosters. These limits are in place no matter the method of getting them. "
So if you increase your CON by +40 that nets you +20 max health. You can at most gain another 30 max health through other means.
And yes, if GTG is getting stopped at 187 as a dark elf then his CON has to be either 94 or 95. The only way he can reach a 190 max hp is by leveling, which will eventually increase his natural CON through stat growth (assuming you have enough levels left to do so; if not you'd need a fixstat potion which probably isn't worth using just to get +3 max health).
Asrial
03-23-2011, 05:00 AM
Here's a good utility program to quickly identify health gains.
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showpost.php?p=977849&postcount=11
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