Moral and Professional Dilemma

[pabstblueribbon]

I got a job offer that makes more money. They've welcomed me aboard and all but handed me the keys to my company vehicle. I have not received my offer letter yet, but I took the physical, drug screens, and background checks today. I will pass them all no problem.

I should have my offer by Monday if not sooner..

I was placed in charge (at my current job) of some pretty advanced design changes and given the requisition forms to get a big ass project off the ground. Several projects actually..

Should I tell them? Or wait for the formal offer. They will still need someone to go through all this stuff, but without me, a lot of these projects are dead in the water..

I have no animosity towards my current employer. I like my job and the people I work with.

Ugh.

[Androidpk]

If you leave now who's going to finish Monks?

[pabstblueribbon]

Goddamn you.

[Delias]

Goddamn you.

Look at it this way: finishing monks will only really mean you make about 12 people happy. And who is more important to you- you, or 12 other people? Now that I've broken it down, I'm sure you'll make the right choice... fuck bitches, get money.

[Delias]

See that? Only 11 complaints to go.

[Drakefang]

Give them two weeks notice after you are given the offer. If they want to try and match the offer you are getting from this new company, then give them the chance. If your potential new employers will not respect your wish to give your current employer two weeks, then you may wish to reconsider. I believe that two weeks is very standard.

[Delias]

Give them two weeks notice after you are given the offer. If they want to try and match the offer you are getting from this new company, then give them the chance. If your potential new employers will not respect your wish to give your current employer two weeks, then you may wish to reconsider. I believe that two weeks is very standard.

Now you're just being ridiculous.

[pabstblueribbon]

Give them two weeks notice after you are given the offer. If they want to try and match the offer you are getting from this new company, then give them the chance. If your potential new employers will not respect your wish to give your current employer two weeks, then you may wish to reconsider. I believe that two weeks is very standard.

I am giving them two weeks, period. I made that known.

Start date is 3/7 so.. I'm just worried that if it takes longer to get the letter that it may run into that period.

3/7 start date is non negotiable. It's a certain window of time and I have to fly to Houston.

[pabstblueribbon]

Ugh I don't know, I just feel like I should give them extra warning because they are truly fucked.

[Drakefang]

If you set your date with your new employers already then there is not much you can do about that, now. I guess tell them now, even without the letter. Waiting isn't much of an option if the two weeks has begun already.

[pabstblueribbon]

If you set your date with your new employers already then there is not much you can do about that, now. I guess tell them now, even without the letter. Waiting isn't much of an option if the two weeks has begun already.

Well, I haven't signed anything with the other company yet.. so I can do whatever I want technically.

[Warriorbird]

Well, I haven't signed anything with the other company yet.. so I can do whatever I want technically.

Don't say anything until it is all secure.

[BriarFox]

Don't say anything until it is all secure.

This. I completely sympathize, but protect yourself first.

[Archigeek]

Don't say anything until it is all secure.

That's how I'd do it.

[Back]

I got a job offer that makes more money.

End of story.

[Drew]

Don't say anything until it is all secure.

This x100.

[Showal]

Ugh I don't know, I just feel like I should give them extra warning because they are truly fucked.

If your current company was playing the money game, I am sure they wouldn't spend too much time worrying about how fucked you would be. Seriously, a company can always hire someone else. They are rarely truly fucked.

[Liagala]

Call the new company and ask if the letter is in the mail. Explain your dilemma to them - I'm sure they'd be pleased to know that their prospective new employee isn't a callous jerk who'd screw them over at some later date. If the letter is already on its way, fine. If it isn't, is this "specific window" of opportunity longer than 1 day? If so, can your start date be pushed back a couple days to the end of this window?

Alternatively, and this doesn't always work, what type of employer is your current company? Are they the kind of people that will wish you the best in your new job, tell you that if it doesn't work out you're welcome back, and actually mean it? That third part is rare, but it does happen. I work for a group like that now. If you're lucky enough to have an employer like that, consider telling them what's up now, even without the letter. Be very sure of their reaction before you tell them, though. This can backfire if you misjudge them.

[pabstblueribbon]

If your current company was playing the money game, I am sure they wouldn't spend too much time worrying about how fucked you would be. Seriously, a company can always hire someone else. They are rarely truly fucked.

They wouldn't probably care about how fucked I would be. They cannot hire someone with my experience in the time I would be giving them. They are probably going to lose some contracts..


Call the new company and ask if the letter is in the mail. Explain your dilemma to them - I'm sure they'd be pleased to know that their prospective new employee isn't a callous jerk who'd screw them over at some later date. If the letter is already on its way, fine. If it isn't, is this "specific window" of opportunity longer than 1 day? If so, can your start date be pushed back a couple days to the end of this window?

Alternatively, and this doesn't always work, what type of employer is your current company? Are they the kind of people that will wish you the best in your new job, tell you that if it doesn't work out you're welcome back, and actually mean it? That third part is rare, but it does happen. I work for a group like that now. If you're lucky enough to have an employer like that, consider telling them what's up now, even without the letter. Be very sure of their reaction before you tell them, though. This can backfire if you misjudge them.

They will probably literally shit themselves and give me whatever compensation I want to stay. Unfortunately, its not only money that I'm concerned with, its the amount of travel I will have to do if I stay. Next project I have to live in L.A. for a year on a very high pressure project that the entire rail industry and to some extent the nation will be centered on.

Sometimes I just want to be dum-dum worker bee.

[ravashaak]

Don't say anything until it is all secure.

Agreed. Never depend upon a bird in the bush. Always get that letter first, no matter how much you trust your current employer or your potential new one.

[BriarFox]

Sometimes I just want to be dum-dum worker bee.

On a side note, I understand this feeling.

[Gan]

If it is not in writing, it does not exist...

Wait for the written offer then make your move.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Wait for the offer then give your notice like most mentioned above. I'm sure your current company will figure it out.