Droughtman's Challenge

[Ryvicke]

Wha?


Tickets are on sale now for our next big event, Droughtman's Challenge! Premium advance tickets are available now, and beginning tomorrow, basic subscribers will be able to get in on the action.

This event will run beginning March 4 through June 4 for the final match!

Kill your friends, win prizes, be awesome!

More details here: http://www.play.net/gs4/news.asp?id=204

~Sirina

And then this, via http://www.play.net/gs4/news.asp?id=204


"What on Elanith is Droughtman's Challenge?" you ask!

Droughtman himself has answers:

"If you dare to accept my call, you'll enter my Maze as one of ten contestants whose task is simple, yet as twisted as the very walls that surround you! Abandoning all your supplies, you'll be given a survival kit containing a random melee weapon, a random ranged weapon and ammunition, a random piece of armor, a random shield, some acantha leaf, and a mysterious wand (No licking or eating the wands! The Management is not responsible for any injuries!)

"Into the Maze you'll go, seeking your way to the White Door. Along the way, you'll find several colored doors. When you start your journey, some will block your path and others will be wide open, at least until someone pulls one of the many colored levers you'll find around the Maze! Some levers will open doors that were closed! Some levers will close doors that were open! Some levers will not only open some doors, but also close others, too! But remember, while you're pulling levers trying to open the right doors that lead you to glory, nine other people are doing the same thing! Strategy and cunning are key!

"Key? I almost forgot! To get through the White Door, you'll need to find a golden key. In various places throughout the Maze, you'll find ropes dangling from the ceiling. Give one a pull, if you feel lucky, and you just might get a key! Then again, who knows what else might happen!

"One important word! Death is but an inconvenience here, since dying will merely move you back to the beginning of the maze. In truth, victory will likely favor the fleet of foot and nimble of mind, although I'm sure that the strong of body will do everything they can to slow them down!

"Everyone will be on equal footing inside the maze. There are no special advantages for the old and powerful, just as there are none for the young and weak! There's no society powers, no magic spells, and no combat maneuvers allowed inside the maze!

"This is a Challenge worthy of true Champions and Heroes as the gods truly intended... skill, cunning, and brains are just as important (if not more-so) as brute force."

So what it is that makes all this worth while?

EVERYONE WINS!

That's right! Everyone who steps up and accepts the challenge will win. No one will walk away empty handed! When each Challenge is over, everyone gets to select a prize from my hoard of wonders and delights! The prizes will range from simple to elaborate, magical to mundane, uncommon to VERY rare!

"What sort of prizes are you talking about, you might ask? Well, good people, I've made some deals and filled my wagon with prizes from dozens of merchants and shops across the lands, some of whom you've not seen in years! Gowns from Yfane, Shade-skinks from Ilixil, forehead gems, fusion arms and orbs, writeable books, siegery miniatures, weapon bandoliers, immolation weapons, morphing armor, entwined wands, dice of fate, permablessed weapons, and much much more! Enhancives, magic items, superior weapons and armor, tickets for upcoming festivals, and coveted trinkets from days gone by."

THERE'S OVER ONE THOUSAND PRIZES WAITING TO BE CLAIMED!

"But some prizes boxes are even more special! A few lucky folks will get my specially commissioned Grab-Bags, filled to capacity with prizes for the Paladin, wares for the Wizard, baubles for the Bard, riches for the Rogue, surprises for the Sorcerer! We've got special Grab-Bags just waiting to be found for members of each class, not to mention a few things that would suit any aspiring Lord or Lady!"

Winners of the first round will automatically move to Round Two where again, all the participants will walk away with ANOTHER PRIZE!

Winners from Round Two move to the Finals, where once again, everyone gets a prize, but the WINNER of the final round wins so much more!

THEY WIN THE GRAND PRIZE PACKAGE!!

Including:

A specially designed airship (traveling private property)
A special prize package of Fusion Arms and Orbs
A special item from Droughtman
Glory, Fortune, Joy, and Fame!

There will also be Observation Decks allowing people to watch and place bets on the winners of each run! This way, those of you who are scared and want to see what it's like before entering can watch and work up your strategy (and your nerve!), or you can just sit around and place bets and have fun that way, too!

Lose your first time through? Want to try again? SIGN UP FOR ANOTHER TICKET! ENTER AS OFTEN AS YOU LIKE! That's right! You'll get another prize, too! Yes, you can sign up for as many runs through the maze as you want in advance! (Note: Once you've won one round and been qualified for the semi-finals, you are ineligible to win a second time. You can still run the maze and win a prize though!)

Check the forums for more details and to ask questions!

TICKETS ARE ON SALE NOW! CLICK HERE TO GET YOURS TODAY!

[Tsk Tsk]

Wha?



And then this, via http://www.play.net/gs4/news.asp?id=204

This sounds awesome.

Prize of
"A specially designed airship (traveling private property)" :shocked2:

[Androidpk]

Neat.

[Ryvicke]

Fucking cool. Ticket boughten. I'm 4/2 (safely middle of the sequence) at 6pm. FEAR MY SKILLS AT DOING WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND YET.

[Kitsun]

Sounds like they found a way to insert micro-transactions into GS.

[Ryvicke]

Pussy.

3/4 ticket #1

Who's the pussy obviously afraid to go up against me on 4/2??

Fucking. Must not. Spend. 30 more dollars.

[Androidpk]

Fucking. Must not. Spend. 30 more dollars.

I know right? :(

[Originate]

This is going to be awesome. lol @ airship prize. did they ever fix Ardwen's? wonder if this will have the same upkeep fee

[Drew]

I'm terrible at puzzles and mazes and things. No way in hell I'll win, so I'm not gonna pay for this.

[Kitsun]

This is going to be awesome. lol @ airship prize. did they ever fix Ardwen's? wonder if this will have the same upkeep fee

I'm fairly certain Ardwen gave his up for a refund. This is probably it.

[Drew]

I'm fairly certain Ardwen gave his up for a refund. This is probably it.

He did, he was really upset.

[Androidpk]

I'm guessing he's going to be even more upset when I get my hands on it.

[WRoss]

This seems like it might suck for pures and THW users. Warpaths and warmages...ehh, even worse

[Androidpk]

The kit does seem a bit unfair. Ranged users will have a definite advantage.

[Drakefang]

Sounds like they found a way to insert micro-transactions into GS.

^^^

Yeah, that.


I'm on the fence about this. It basically comes down to, get a purportedly nice item (minimum) or save my money because my interest in a maze quest is beyond low. I'll probably cave, do it once, check out the quality of the random prize item I get. Then if it sucks, I'd kick myself and not buy more. If the item is ridonculous, then off I race to buy more tickets.

Fuckers, they should just let us pay $30 to reach into a goddamn grab bag for a 1st tier prize. It would take a lot less resources and get them back to working on shit that actually matters. However, I grasp that some/many will be excited about racing through a maze and pwning.

[Kitsun]

Well by the sound of it, you can just plop down $30 bucks for each run, skip the contest and nab your prize when it's over.

Just asked on the officials since the flavor text of the description is somewhat misleading; the prizes are infact random. You don't get to choose.

The expected return on investment here is going to be pretty heavily dependent on how many actual nice items are in there versus the fodder. With 1,000 prizes going out - how many are really bandoliers, forehead gems, entwined wands, immolators versus the 35k pawnshop fodder?

[Dyslexia]

Enjoy my $30 you damn robbers

[Kitsun]

I'm probably not even going to be signing up, but it sounds like there can be a huge amount of potential to grief contestants. Any kind of collusion and a couple people could probably set up a choke point and insta-gib other players back to the start while the front runner makes a bee line toward the white door.

[Originate]

Well by the sound of it, you can just plop down $30 bucks for each run, skip the contest and nab your prize when it's over.

Just asked on the officials since the flavor text of the description is somewhat misleading; the prizes are infact random. You don't get to choose.

The expected return on investment here is going to be pretty heavily dependent on how many actual nice items are in there versus the fodder. With 1,000 prizes going out - how many are really bandoliers, forehead gems, entwined wands, immolators versus the 35k pawnshop fodder?

I hope this isn't going to be $30 shovels

[prance1520]

Anyone else read The Hunger Games? This isn't last person standing, but it sounds really similar with how they are starting it.

PS Hunger Games is a pretty awesome read if you like fiction.

[Cap'nDrak]

Seems like Brawling\Voln Fu is going to take the cake here. Screw the weapons, I'll use my fists.

[Archigeek]

I suck at mazes too. I like to take my own sweet time exploring... but I'll probably do this once. Seems like a pretty hefty price for 2 hours of entertainment. Hopefully watching in the observation deck will be entertaining as well, and I also hope the prizes are worth the price of admission.

[crb]

I suck at mazes too. I like to take my own sweet time exploring... but I'll probably do this once. Seems like a pretty hefty price for 2 hours of entertainment. Hopefully watching in the observation deck will be entertaining as well, and I also hope the prizes are worth the price of admission.

Oh it sounds like you'd do well at it, your build and all.

I think it all depends on the distribution of the prizes, but some listed are certainly worth $30, even $300.

[BigWorm]

This is a Dragonrealms import. I am pretty sure it is an entirely self-contained mini-game. I guess I read the description differently than everyone because it seems to me like your skills will have little to nothing to do with your abilities in the maze.

[Archigeek]

Yeah I don't think build is going to have anything to do with it. I'd hope that the playing field is largely even for everyone. Wait. Never mind, I hope I have a huge advantage.

[Androidpk]

Voln Fu is a society power and therefore won't be able to be used. At least that's what I would think.

[Ryvicke]

This is a Dragonrealms import. I am pretty sure it is an entirely self-contained mini-game. I guess I read the description differently than everyone because I'm not a fucking moron.

Give yourself credit!

[Drunken Durfin]

I have a sinking feeling that this is going to be one of those classic GS "guess the verb/noun" games...which make me itch.

[Nilandia]

Solomon has posted that this will not be a 'guess the verb' situation.

Gretchen

[Ardwen]

My former, still unfinished at probably totaly worthless as long as Auchand is working on it Airship is currently parked near the dinghy in the landing, open to the public, still full of typos more then 15 months later. I am so unimpressed with Auchand's ability to actually finishing anything I am shocked he manages to remember exhale when he breathes.

Basically this is a grab bag event, Auction without the whining about shit items mixed in, though it is cheaper. Just remember fireworks presses were auction loot too!

[phantasm]

Here's a funny log from the DR run.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080620005208/http://www.smelly-cat.org/droughtman.html

[crb]

Here's a funny log from the DR run.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080620005208/http://www.smelly-cat.org/droughtman.html

I actually found that log kinda lame.

If you're doing something IC, you don't say "Hey, by the way, we're IC."

I've done tons of shit and if I did it for IC reasons if a GM pops down I don't stop the RP, I keep doing it.

That log... the PCs kept switching IC to OOC, back and forth...

The GM, also, very uncreative. Coulda had some good fun there. If I was a GM I woulda tossed them all in a prison, brought them out one by one for a little torture, confiscated all winnings of course, then given each an RPA while banning them from the maze for life (assuming they hadn't said something stupid like "We just did an IC plot.").

[crb]

This is a Dragonrealms import. I am pretty sure it is an entirely self-contained mini-game. I guess I read the description differently than everyone because it seems to me like your skills will have little to nothing to do with your abilities in the maze.

Oh the GMs have said multiple times along the lines of "You might get unlucky and not get a weapon you have skill to use." So I'm pretty sure skill matters. And a postcap warrior trained in multiple weapon types is going to have the best odds. Of course, a runestaff pure is guaranteed to be unlucky, because we can use nothing they might provide.

[Androidpk]

I don't see anything wrong with what they did, they should have been allowed to keep the plats. That GM was just being a complete douche bag.

[DoctorUnne]

What are you guys thinking about in terms of timing?

Advantage to going in the earlier runs is you're more likely to be up against people who are also trying to figure things out for the first time, putting everyone on an even playing field.

Advantage to going in the later runs is you can observe the earlier runs and try to gain a knowledge advantage BUT you have a greater risk of being up against people in their second or third runs who have a much bigger advantage.

I would think earlier runs would be the answer but not the first. As long as you can watch 1-2 first you'll probably gain all the info you need. Watching more after that probably won't be too helpful.

[Archigeek]

Oh the GMs have said multiple times along the lines of "You might get unlucky and not get a weapon you have skill to use." So I'm pretty sure skill matters. And a postcap warrior trained in multiple weapon types is going to have the best odds. Of course, a runestaff pure is guaranteed to be unlucky, because we can use nothing they might provide.

If it makes you feel better, Kerl will not ever swing a sword in combat. So if he randomly ends up with a sword of any size or type and it's needed to kill, and killing is needed to win, he will lose.

[crb]

what in he ends up with a chakram? will he go xena on my ass?

[Archigeek]

what in he ends up with a chakram? will he go xena on my ass?

Without second thought. Though, I think I'd be more inclined to put people in RT than kill them, unless maybe we're right at the end, and sending someone back to the begining means they have a ton of ground to make up.

[Fallen]

They gave everyone runestaves as well.

[kgolfer]

If no magic, cmans, or society stuff can be used, I am assuming you can't use guild skills.

So, how can you put someone in RT?

[Archigeek]

If no magic, cmans, or society stuff can be used, I am assuming you can't use guild skills.

So, how can you put someone in RT?

They give you a wand that freezes people.

[phantasm]

What does "superior" weapons and armor mean to everyone else?

[Fallen]

What does "superior" weapons and armor mean to everyone else?

6x

[Androidpk]

Battle-axe with decapitation flares.

[Gnomad]

Sounds like they found a way to insert micro-transactions into GS.

$35 is a few orders of magnitude away from a microtransaction.

I'm only slightly amazed that they duped a bunch of items and are selling the lot for $35,000.

[crb]

Does anyone have any logs of actual action in the maze taking place? I'm curious how similar these wands are to PC batons.

[Ardwen]

It would seem to me that bards would have the advantage since they can sing armor, weapon and shield of choice. without kowing how they are going to equalize players on a level by level basis its hard to make a real call though.

[Originate]

After reading all the responses from NIR's on the officials, I am surprised that everyone thinks that the person who can kill the most will win. They say repeatedly it'll be a level playing field, and it takes longer to try to kill someone than it does for that person to run away. The wands sounds like the equalizer. I think the largest advantage to win would be they with the fastest hands/ nice macros.

But, prizes are given out regardless. What I wonder is, if there is x amout of prizes, what percentage are 'mundane?" And if it makes up a majority, wouldn't attendees toward the middle/end have a better chance of winning a nicer item?

[Fallen]

It would seem to me that bards would have the advantage since they can sing armor, weapon and shield of choice. without kowing how they are going to equalize players on a level by level basis its hard to make a real call though.

I'm thinking there is 0 spell casting. Just swinging.

[Ardwen]

no casting seems ridiculously unfair to pures, but we'll learn soon enough
he who has the most fix skills wins?

[crb]

It would seem to me that bards would have the advantage since they can sing armor, weapon and shield of choice. without kowing how they are going to equalize players on a level by level basis its hard to make a real call though.

Can't use spells, or spellsongs. Technically I think a brawler would have the most advantage, since you can't take fists away. And without armor and with crappy DS's, a fist might be all you need.

[crb]

After reading all the responses from NIR's on the officials, I am surprised that everyone thinks that the person who can kill the most will win. They say repeatedly it'll be a level playing field, and it takes longer to try to kill someone than it does for that person to run away. The wands sounds like the equalizer. I think the largest advantage to win would be they with the fastest hands/ nice macros.

But, prizes are given out regardless. What I wonder is, if there is x amout of prizes, what percentage are 'mundane?" And if it makes up a majority, wouldn't attendees toward the middle/end have a better chance of winning a nicer item?

It isn't that the person who can be killed the most will win, or even that the person who dies the most won't win. It is that being killed can't possibly be a benefit so, on average, your chance of winning will go down with every death. It doesn't mean it is impossible. There will always be outliers and exceptions, but on the whole the probable outcome will favor those who cannot be killed.

I wonder if they're turning dfredux off as well? Unless the wands are based on CS or something, squares, especially warriors, will definitely have the advantage.

On the prizes, statistically it doesn't matter if you go on a first round or a later round. You could, however, do something like counting cards in blackjack. If the first 30 people who play all get a top of the line prize, then you know that there are less left in the "deck" so to speak and your odds of getting one will have declined. If, however, the first 30 people have bad luck, then suddenly your odds will have increased.

[crb]

no casting seems ridiculously unfair to pures, but we'll learn soon enough
he who has the most fix skills wins?

I think with a pure, your strategy is to retreat away from any square who advances on you and not allow them to get close enough to engage you with their melee weapons...

Hrm...

What would be fair is if the random runestaff they have now agreed to provide is imbedded, using wave or point, with a random CS based attack spell. You might end up with 302 as a sorcerer or 702 as a cleric, but you'd have something.

[Ardwen]

Now do the levers possibly release critters as the webpage seems to indicate, and can people exchange grab bag items? both are pretty large keys as well I think. Tag team the obstacles as it were.

[crb]

It does sound like critters can be released. Which is going to make a complete lack of offense even more annoying.

[kgolfer]

I see teamwork starting at first and the closer you get to the end, backstabbing will ensue.

[LordBacl]

can people exchange grab bag items?

Pretty sure I saw a NIR on the officials say prizes aren't attuned to the character. So, trade or sell away, I guess.

[Fallen]

I see teamwork starting at first and the closer you get to the end, backstabbing will ensue.

Heh, a shot at a grab bag isn't worth making an enemy for life. You know, unless he is level nothing.

[Anebriated]

think someone will drop 300 on an entire round to guarantee a solid prize?

[kgolfer]

I agree Evarin, and that is the approach I will take.

[LordBacl]

think someone will drop 300 on an entire round to guarantee a solid prize?

Wouldn't you also need 10 different accounts to do this?

[Kitsun]

Wouldn't you also need 10 different accounts to do this?

Or access to 10 different accounts. Don't necessarily need to own them all.

[Anebriated]

Or access to 10 different accounts. Don't necessarily need to own them all.

this

[grenthor]

this

its what people in that log that was posted did and they got shut down for it so be careful

[Anebriated]

I wouldnt, If i had the money to drop on it id rather get a couple friends in on it with me and buy out a block for all of us and make sure our group gets something good. Just saying I could see someone buying half an event anyway to improve their odds.

[Ryvicke]

I wouldnt, If i had the money to drop on it id rather get a couple friends in on it with me and buy out a block for all of us and make sure our group gets something good. Just saying I could see someone buying half an event anyway to improve their odds.


Fucking cool. Ticket boughten. I'm 4/2 (safely middle of the sequence) at 6pm. FEAR MY SKILLS AT DOING WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND YET.

Dude I fully expect you and Kimberley and Kimberly and Q and everyone else to do this with me. $30 by 4/2!

[Kitsun]

But how do even 5 buddies split 1 weapon bandolier and 9 crap items? Getting into the semi-finals only gets you one more shot at a random item. It didn't sound like that pool was any different than the 1st runs.

[kookiegod]

I personally would like to see a list of the stuff thats in the hoppers.

Getting old ezshop items could be nice, was yellow silk satchels, the pin worn hold 100 tunics, and +10 claids, fel hafters and fgb...

But getting old stuff with no mechanical use be bad.

~Paul

[Tylec]

Now do the levers possibly release critters as the webpage seems to indicate, and can people exchange grab bag items? both are pretty large keys as well I think. Tag team the obstacles as it were.

I seem to remember the ropes or levers randomly messing with you but not releasing critters. (laughing gas, stuns, things like that). That said it was a long time ago when I ran in DR.


think someone will drop 300 on an entire round to guarantee a solid prize?

Winning a round gives you no better chance at a good prize than losing. It's hopper fed so you have the same chance at a good prize by buying 10 tickets as you do buying out an entire round. The only difference is you would have a guarantee of advancing to another round and having a "free" prize grab.


I personally would like to see a list of the stuff thats in the hoppers.

Getting old ezshop items could be nice, was yellow silk satchels, the pin worn hold 100 tunics, and +10 claids, fel hafters and fgb...

But getting old stuff with no mechanical use be bad.

~Paul

I'm pretty sure this is exactly what Solomon did in DR (posted the entire hopper), so it's possible they'll do the same in GS.

[Archigeek]

My thoughts are that, with 1000 items, you just can't expect them all to be great items. If that were the case, we'd have such a glut of good crap that it would be a total monty haul scene. A better way to look at it is to probably consider that the average item is probably worth more than 5 million silvers; some way more, some less.

They're going to want to make sure everyone feels that they got their money's worth between 2 hours of entertainment, and a grab bag item. That said, there will certainly be those who feel like they got the short end of the stick.

[Androidpk]

The maze takes 2 hours?

[Fallen]

On average they said.

[B4Hand]

I am actually looking forward to this. It sounds like a lot of fun!

[beer]

It isn't that the person who can be killed the most will win, or even that the person who dies the most won't win. It is that being killed can't possibly be a benefit so, on average, your chance of winning will go down with every death. It doesn't mean it is impossible. There will always be outliers and exceptions, but on the whole the probable outcome will favor those who cannot be killed.

it isn't a fixed maze. being killed and sent to the beginning can be a benefit, since there may be more advantageous pathways open your second (or third, or forth) time through. and anyway, if you're going to try to balance pure/square in terms of combat, you'll sure as shit have to balance level too.

[Originate]

anyone here able to post logs and info from the Plat run?

[crb]

it isn't a fixed maze. being killed and sent to the beginning can be a benefit, since there may be more advantageous pathways open your second (or third, or forth) time through. and anyway, if you're going to try to balance pure/square in terms of combat, you'll sure as shit have to balance level too.

Ya, maybe it is possible that could happen, but as I said, an exception doesn't mean it isn't going to be a detriment to you most of the time.

Plus, fuck killing someone. Some square can limb you, tend you, and leave you unable to move around, but not dying. You may eventually die, minutes later. Basically no better than an RT lock. I suppose if you were col you might be able to suicide still to get out of it. I'm not sure if signs require hands. Surely being maimed is going to be pretty shitty, right? I mean, if you're supposed to be running around grabbing things?

[phantasm]

Someone has a deep seeded fear of squares.

[crb]

Absolutely, when I've got no gear and magic is turned off, and then I'm told by dipshit gms and sycophant players that its a balanced system. At least I got them to give out runestaffs, so it'll take more than a level 15 square to off me.

I'll go and pay my $30 (a few times over) for my grab bag auction lottery ticket, but the maze is as balanced as lindsey lohan on a friday night.

[RSR]

Hugely level dependent. Level 1 character won round 1 in plat. Can't attack a level 1 in offensive, giving him time to wave the wand at the blockers who teamed up to take people out, blockers were all capped or near capped. Wander around aimlessly for hours. Ropes clustered together, some nice silvers made by a few from pulling the ropes.

Overall it was the worst event in GS I've ever seen. Worse than the Wonders of Elanthia fiasco.

-Richard.

[Kitsun]

ROFL.

Nice mechanics use by the person dragging in a level 1.

[Ryvicke]

I won the plat beta tonight. No questions need to be asked or answered, there are very few "skills" involved. Go with friends if you want to have fun, get a prize no matter what. I think there's a few kinks they're still working out but on the whole, it's a really long pennant chase where you also can die, but it's not a big deal if you do.

My only criticism--needs to be about half an hour shorter on the duration. Truthfully, I think a relatively small percentage of people are going to get prizes that are worth $30 or roughly 4m silvers. But the opportunity is there, and really--I've seldom played Dragonbones and NOT blew through 5-10m and came out ahead, so at least here you'll get a prize.

[Ryvicke]

Hugely level dependent. Level 1 character won round 1 in plat. Can't attack a level 1 in offensive, giving him time to wave the wand at the blockers who teamed up to take people out, blockers were all capped or near capped.

Did any of the blockers NOT have an AOE spell? I walked into rooms at least 10 times and got ewaved without the "pause." I'm not saying some people couldn't kill me or whatever, but all I was using was a "wave wand at @" macro and typing the first three letters of your name. A "stance d\rattack\r" macro is DEFINITELY faster.

[RSR]

oh and blockers can use any magic that they want. So not sure why Solomon says that level doesn't matter, it sure as fuck did.

-Richard.

[kookiegod]

I seem to remember the ropes or levers randomly messing with you but not releasing critters. (laughing gas, stuns, things like that). That said it was a long time ago when I ran in DR.



Winning a round gives you no better chance at a good prize than losing. It's hopper fed so you have the same chance at a good prize by buying 10 tickets as you do buying out an entire round. The only difference is you would have a guarantee of advancing to another round and having a "free" prize grab.



I'm pretty sure this is exactly what Solomon did in DR (posted the entire hopper), so it's possible they'll do the same in GS.

Cool, thanks, I'm going, i think its nifty and one of the better things Solomon has done for GS was getting this imported.

Still, just my thoughts on the prizes. :)

[Originate]

what prizes did you see?

[Warriorbird]

This sounds awesome.

Prize of
"A specially designed airship (traveling private property)" :shocked2:

Finally did it.

[crb]

oh and blockers can use any magic that they want. So not sure why Solomon says that level doesn't matter, it sure as fuck did.

-Richard.

No offense to Solomon, he means well. But honestly, I don't think gets mechanics that well.

Like, look at this event.

Picture the GMs around the planning table....




Solomon: "Okay guys, I've just explained the game to you. In addition, everyone will be given a random melee weapon so they can fight."
Sirina: "Oh, but you know, I've always been an advocate for bow users and you know most ranged weapons users are unable to fight with melee weapons."
Solomon: "Huh? Oh, right, I guess. Okay, we'll give them a bow and ammunition too, then we should have all weapon types and combat styles covered. Unless... can anyone think of any other combat type we're forgetting?"
::crickets::


Point being, they had obviously thought about the problem of players not training in melee weapons, and included bows, but, despite their brains being trained on that problem, they did not deduce the obvious plight of pures. When it was the first thing that popped into atleast mine, Rimalon's, and Ardwen's head. Probably others too who just didn't post.

[crb]

Cool, thanks, I'm going, i think its nifty and one of the better things Solomon has done for GS was getting this imported.

Still, just my thoughts on the prizes. :)

Are you allowed to go? We don't want another EG fiasco, you better find out before you buy a ticket.

[crb]

Hugely level dependent. Level 1 character won round 1 in plat. Can't attack a level 1 in offensive, giving him time to wave the wand at the blockers who teamed up to take people out, blockers were all capped or near capped. Wander around aimlessly for hours. Ropes clustered together, some nice silvers made by a few from pulling the ropes.

Overall it was the worst event in GS I've ever seen. Worse than the Wonders of Elanthia fiasco.

-Richard.

Combat seems to matter a whole lot if the trick to winning is being protected from it by an old game mechanic they've forgotten about. I bet you that gets removed though.

[crb]

oh... I don't suppose anyone checked if the maze area had valid xml for lich?

[Fallen]

Big updates coming that we think will alleviate a lot of the concerns and fix some of the issues that were uncovered on the first run last night.

Stay tuned.

Solomon

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Good. If things don't change dramatically I think I am just going to use a locker character to run and avoid the drama.

[Fallen]

The following are implemented or planned to be in place before our second beta run:

Contestants:
No contestants under level 2.
Arming room for plain gear versus random survival kit gear.
A way to heal yourself without being killed.
Tweaking the odds of what happens when you pull a rope, especially reducing the frequency of getting sent to the beginning.
Quadrupled the number of ropes in the maze (and lowered the number of silvers possible from each pull accordingly).
Enable some range of spell casting - TBD.

Blockers:
Inventory will be stripped, and blockers will also have an arming room for basic gear.
Limit range of spell casting - TBD.
Disable BESEECH verb for breaking a stun.

General:
Disable grouping for blockers and contestants.
Fix a bug with betting that didn't allow one contestant to be bet upon.
Enable YELLing so that observers, contestants, and blockers can communicate from anywhere within the maze or the observation rooms and generally heckle each other.
Fixed a bug that didn't return people to the right town when they left the arena. (This also fixes the fact that notes weren't properly set to the town you arrived from, which was coded, but not working as intended.)
SORT AUTO REVERSE done automatically after your gear is returned.

There are a few more things fixed or to be fixed, but they are mostly typos and GM functions.

~Sirina

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[Androidpk]

I'm unclear on the blockers. Who are they?

[Nilandia]

Other characters trying to mess with the people in the maze. We happened to have one last night who is particularly creative and loved what he did. Frighteningly effective, and I loved watching him work.

Gretchen

[Androidpk]

Ahh. Is there a set number of people who can be blockers? This is sounding more and more exciting. I love the arming room idea compared to a random kit.

[Fallen]

Ahh. Is there a set number of people who can be blockers? This is sounding more and more exciting. I love the arming room idea compared to a random kit.

I think there are a set number, and it looks like they will be picked from the people in the previous rounds. Probably like a pool of volunteers afterwards. The first batch of blockers are supposed to submit applications to GMs to help out.

[Ryvicke]

Other characters trying to mess with the people in the maze. We happened to have one last night who is particularly creative and loved what he did. Frighteningly effective, and I loved watching him work.

Gretchen

Oh who?? Triple-capped Marshal 410/vicious katana death?

[kookiegod]

Are you allowed to go? We don't want another EG fiasco, you better find out before you buy a ticket.

Heh, good point, but yah, I am, that resolved itself after that night.

~Paul

[Archigeek]

No offense to Solomon, he means well. But honestly, I don't think gets mechanics that well.

Like, look at this event.

Picture the GMs around the planning table....




Point being, they had obviously thought about the problem of players not training in melee weapons, and included bows, but, despite their brains being trained on that problem, they did not deduce the obvious plight of pures. When it was the first thing that popped into atleast mine, Rimalon's, and Ardwen's head. Probably others too who just didn't post.

A random melee weapon means nothing to a square if they get the wrong weapon type, so that really made little sense either. I'm no better off with a two handed sword than you are with one. No matter though, it looks like they've switched to a room where you can grab what you need.

[crb]

A random melee weapon means nothing to a square if they get the wrong weapon type, so that really made little sense either. I'm no better off with a two handed sword than you are with one. No matter though, it looks like they've switched to a room where you can grab what you need.

Ya, its definitely a good change.

But I think they meant for you to trade with other runners for the weapon you needed, and many are trained in more than one weapon type of course.

But, I'm glad they see the light on this.

Though this blocker thing... they need to get that figured out. If I were a blocker and had access to all my spells, I would fuck shit up. Curse and nightmare everyone. Send my demon around finding people while I sit invisible then mass evil eye. See if I can bring an animate in with me for that matter (Wouldn't that be funny, I bet you I could, they usually forget to check such things). 708 to remove all limbs. Sorcerers aren't the best hunters, we aren't the best utility pures, the litany of problems with our profession is long and saddening. But we have the best CVC tools.

[crb]

Then oh ya, the first thing I always do in some new special area, whip out the 740 book and see if GMs remembered to block it.

[WRoss]

if everyone gets a runestaff, that's a quarterstaff. Quite good for ambushing necks.

[That Jay]

Other characters trying to mess with the people in the maze. We happened to have one last night who is particularly creative and loved what he did. Frighteningly effective, and I loved watching him work.

Gretchen

Then I hope he is a blocker when/if you go through Gretchen. Perhaps your perspective might change. It was overkill. I derived no joy from his antics.

[Androidpk]

Then I hope he is a blocker when/if you go through Gretchen. Perhaps your perspective might change. It was overkill. I derived no joy from his antics.

More details.

[Fallen]

More details.

I can only imagine how long a WAY post-cap rogue could keep someone in RT if they felt like it. Between E-wave and CMANs, likely indefinitely.

[BigWorm]

I can only imagine how long a WAY post-cap rogue could keep someone in RT if they felt like it. Between E-wave and CMANs, likely indefinitely.

How do the wands work? 10 sec hard RT is a pretty nice opener. Seems like it would be a lot like pennant chase if they work anything like batons. Do you need to empty your hands to pull the ropes?

[crb]

Why doesn't someone post an actual log?

[IorakeWarhammer]

because the event didn't really happen!

[That Jay]

There is a beta run of Droughtman's Maze on Wednesday in Platinum at Noon. Still 4 spots open. Its free to Platinum members. If somebody wants to upgrade their Premium membership to Platinum and go to get an idea what to look forward to in the Prime run, I might be persuaded to give a $10 Gift Of Adventure so a Premium member can upgrade their membership to Platinum for a month, as long as they are willing to give me whatever prize they pull at the end of the event.

Get some advanced warning of what to expect during the Prime run for free.

Only available if you can make the Platinum beta run this Wednesday at Noon.

Since its a beta run, you must also be willing to provide feedback in the Prime Maze folder so they can adjust the event as necessary.

[crb]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

Anyone know he "HILLMANM" is on the officials? We've got a giant douche alert. Fucker decided to reply to one of my posts here, on the officials.

I'm quoting, because I'm sure his douchey post is going to get removed.



You know, I think I finally get it.

I finally understand the huge outpouring of animosity from some people about this event.

It honestly completely baffled me how some people were bashing about how the event was setup. I totally couldn't understand it.

Then I happened to go look at those unofficial boards where it seems everyone is always really angry and negative.

I came across this response from someone over there in regards to this event:

>>If I were a blocker and had access to all my spells, I would <deleted> <deleted> up. Curse and nightmare everyone. Send my demon around finding people while I sit invisible then mass evil >>eye. See if I can bring an animate in with me for that matter (Wouldn't that be funny, I bet you I could, they usually forget to check such things). 708 to remove all limbs.
>>Then oh ya, the first thing I always do in some new special area, whip out the 740 book and see if GMs remembered to block it.

It honestly amazed me to read something like that. But then it all clicked for me. And why something like this will never be setup in a way to make a certain type of player happy.

I think to most GMs and most normal people - certainly how I look at it - the idea of a blocker is a good natured thing. It's like getting together with your friends and laughing while you do something stupid to them as they go running by. Maybe close a door right before they get to it so they bump into it. Then they or you open the door and they move on.
Maybe take a swing right as they run into a room - nothing catastrophic of course. Just something to make them go 'Holy Crap!!' in surprise. Heck, you'd probably even kill a couple of people under the right circumstances. Again, nothing over the top.
Or how with a couple of my friends I always tackle them the second I see them. I do it from defensive so I don't hurt them of course. And then every so rarely I might forget and then they get hurt. Everyone laughs because everyone knows the intent was not to actually hurt someone. That doesn't sound like the intent for this type of player though.

So yes, there can be death, but the intent is to add to the game... to add to the enjoyment of others.

Then I read something like that and realize that there are some people who genuinely do want to grief. Their idea of fun really is ruining everyone elses good time. I don't get that mindset. I never will. It really never even crossed my mind that some people would want to be a blocker so that they could act that way.

Now that I realize there are people who think that way, I get why they would be so insanely against how the roles were setup. They think everyone in there is going to be wanting to utterly ruin their fun and they will have no way to fight back and act pre-emptively.

It's why they refer to the blockers not as blockers but as griefers.

With all that being said, I have no suggestions on how to help alleviate those concerns since it goes directly to the mindset and the goals of the player. Just offering it up since maybe it's a bit of a realization for others.

Or maybe I'm just totally removed from the mindset of the players today!

B


This ass has repeatedly been trying to put shit into my mouth in this whole discussion. He must be one of my many enemies, but still. Has anyone ever seen a bigger douche move than to take a post from this forum and quote it over on the officials?

Seriously, he says he has me figured out and I'm a griefer and I get off on it. If this was true I would be playing shattered. Just because I lay out the many tools a sorcerer has for CVC doesn't mean I want to be a griefer, and want to be a blocker.

I wasn't even having the griefer discussion on the officials, but he apparently things Fallen and I are the same person. Fallen was having the griefer discussion. Now apparently we're both mean bloodthirsty sorcerers who want to be blockers so we can grief people.

Let us nevermind that my biggest argument thus far has been on the lack of defense of the runners, which, if I just wanted to grief people as a blocker, would be a good thing.

I've got 2 kids under 2 and rarely am able to play during typical primetime hours. I signed up for Sunday Noon rounds mostly because that is nap time. There is no way I am going to be a blocker, ever, and turn a 2 hour event into a 4 hour one. Naps are not that long.

[crb]

Oh, and I've said multiple times I want everyone limited to just stun wands, which obviously is just a furtherance of my griefer need to kill kill kill.

[Archigeek]

Seriously, he says he has me figured out and I'm a griefer and I get off on it. If this was true I would be playing shattered. Just because I lay out the many tools a sorcerer has for CVC doesn't mean I want to be a griefer, and want to be a blocker.

Yeah but, don't you get off on killing other characters probably way more than the average player? I won't comment on his quoting from here on the other boards other than to say I'd never do that, but you have to admit that you love to kill other characters with Virilneus, and at times go out of your way to set up situations where you'll get the opportunity.

I'm not entirely sure that's griefing but it's pretty damn close. The shoe isn't really that far from fitting pretty comfortably right? What is the body count at anyway?

As a side note I do appreciate some of the things you do for the community, IE: your website which I use often, so it isn't like I think you're a complete asshat or something, just saying that you do get off on CvC.

[Archigeek]

I also want to point out that to a degree, I agree with what you said about enjoying killing characters in this situation. To me, for a blocker this is kind of like a free day where the normal rules don't apply, so knock yourself out.

A dead character just gets up right away back at the start anyway; no death's sting, stat loss, etc. Just up you go and start over.

[crb]

No, I don't actually. I never seek out violence.

I'll only kill another character for attacking me or stealing for me. Period. And it doesn't happen often. Killed a couple people at EG for attacking me.

Previous to that, can't remember the last time.

[Fallen]

I can't remember the last character I killed. I think it was Sepher well over 2 years ago.

[kgolfer]

Eoghain sure has been dying a lot around you lately.....

[Ardwen]

killing is so pointless, embarass and taunt is much more fun usually

[kgolfer]

Maybe you are not directly responsible....just saying.....

[LMingrone]

quote from the guy CRB quoted.

What fantasy land does that person come from? It's a RP game, some people RP evil douche bags. Just like in the real world. This person needs to find a game that is based in Care Bear Land. "Lets all run around shooting our heart symbols and help each other out!!!". I bet whoever posted that on the officials has never played any competitive sport/game of any sort.

[Fallen]

Maybe you are not directly responsible....just saying.....

I suck at keeping people alive, especially other sorcerers. :(

[Androidpk]

Or how with a couple of my friends I always tackle them the second I see them. I do it from defensive so I don't hurt them of course. And then every so rarely I might forget and then they get hurt. Everyone laughs because everyone knows the intent was not to actually hurt someone

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1236680042_zoolander_-_ben_stiller.gif

[crb]

Surely someone must know who HILLMANM's PC is?

[Androidpk]

Surely someone must know who HILLMANM's PC is?

From the sounds of it I doubt he is a regular.

[WRoss]

When in doubt, blame Suckerfish.

[Ryvicke]

I'm not aware of many on the officials who don't know who he is.

Eta: he's about 100 times more bearable than you v. Anti-PC post or not.

[WRoss]

googled site: play.net hillmanm and a few links down




Re: Cutter Randomness · on 5/31/2010 9:37:42 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 18715
Same thing for me too. Zyllah happened to be around when I tried since it's apparently setting off screamers on thier end and she asked me about it. So they do know and they are working on it.

Balinworn

[crb]

Ahh, Balinworn. Yes, he has always been a douche.

[kgolfer]

I suck at keeping people alive, especially other sorcerers. :(

I don't think it's necessarily sorcerers....I just think it is Eoghain. I feel like I am doing a child escort every time I take him out!

[violent femme]

I'm so in! I so suck at mazes!

[RSR]

I don't generally log sessions, but I did manage to remember to copy/paste some of this run as a spectator.

Edit to add: all this appears in monster bold in game.

You stop watching Skeyelar and begin watching Nishima, and see...
[Droughtman's Maze]
The walls of the maze are constructed of smooth black marble with web-like veins of gold and silver that stand out boldly against the dark background. The floors are covered with iron grating, allowing for more than adequate drainage of any fluids which might be spilled within the confines of the labyrinth. Several flickering torches are placed in gold-trimmed sconces spaced evenly along the passage walls.
Also here: High Lord Brinret, Drud, the body of a stunned Barkos who is lying down, Nilandia, Phellan, Grand Lady Skeyelar, Ero, a stunned Nishima
Obvious exits: north, west
sJ>
High Lord Brinret just went north.
sJ>
Drud just tiptoed north.
sJ>
Phellan just went north.
sJ>
Nilandia just went west.
sJ>
Nishima just went north.
sJ>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Nilandia has just frozen Shilarra solid! Oh, the cold grip of reality!"

sJ>
Phellan just went east.
sJ>
Nishima just went east.
sJ>
Nishima just went northeast.
sJ>
High Lord Brinret just went northeast.
sJ>
You hear an explosion nearby, and razor-sharp shards fly into the area!

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Challenger Drud just pulled a rope and triggered an explosion of razor-sharp shards! DUCK!"

sJ>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Challenger Nilandia just pulled a rope and got a a golden key - GAME ON!"

sJ>
The ghostly voice of Nishima says, "Haha."
sJ>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Challenger Nilandia just pulled a rope and toggled a bunch of portals! Stop slamming that door!"

sJ>
Ero just arrived.
sJ>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "I just had a gnome bouce past me! It smeared the walls, go get it!"

sJ>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Challenger Nilandia just pulled a rope and released a large hairy spider! Watch out in the shadows!"

sJ>
Grand Lady Skeyelar just arrived.
sJ>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Challenger Nilandia just pulled a rope and teleported herself to beginning of the maze. RESET!"

sJ>
Nishima suddenly disappears!
Ero suddenly disappears!
Skeyelar suddenly disappears!
Fink suddenly disappears!
Phellan suddenly disappears!
Drud suddenly disappears!
Brinret suddenly disappears!

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Challenger Issalya just pulled a rope and teleported everyone to the same place. Ah, togetherness!"

sJ>
Luciano just went north.
sJ>
Barkos just went north.
sJ>
Vyrshkana just went southwest.
sJ>
Lady Issalya just went southwest.
sJ>
The body of Fink fades away.
sJ>
The body of Nishima fades away.
sJ>
Shilarra nocks arrow in her wood composite bow.
Shilarra fires arrow at Phellan!
AS: +210 vs DS: +83 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +67 = +226
... and hits for 58 points of damage!
Shot knocks Phellan's head back by pushing on the inside of the skull!
The arrow sticks in Phellan's right eye!
sJ>
Vyrshkana just arrived.
sJ>
Nishima just went through the maze doorway.
sJ>
Fink just went through the maze doorway.
sJ>
Fink just went west.
sJ>
Nishima just went west.
sJ>
Nishima just went northwest.
sJ>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Vyrshkana has just frozen Ero solid! Oh, the cold grip of reality!"

sJ>
Nishima just went west.
sJ>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Challenger Issalya just pulled a rope and won 54786 silvers! The next round of drinks is on them!"


Shilarra begins to move once more, haltingly at first, but with growing surety.
sJ>
The body of Vyrshkana fades away.
sJ>
Skeyelar swings a steel halberd at Nishima!
AS: +458 vs DS: +236 with AvD: +14 + d100 roll: +31 = +267
... and hits for 41 points of damage!
Glancing slash to Nishima's shield arm!
She is stunned!
sJ>
Luciano just went north.
sJ>
Barkos pulls a yellow lever and you hear a loud *CLICK*. The lever then suddenly disappears from view!
sJ>
Fink just went north.
sJ>
Nilandia waves a silvered glacial crystal wand at Skeyelar.
The wand flashes brightly and hurls a crackling bolt of blue energy at Skeyelar, causing her to immediately freeze in her tracks.

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Nilandia has just frozen Skeyelar solid! Oh, the cold grip of reality!"

sJ>
High Lord Brinret just went north.
sJ>
Ero looks determined and focused.
In an awe inspiring display of combat mastery, Ero engages Barkos in a furious dance macabre, spiralling into a blur of strikes and ripostes!
Ero swings a steel longsword at Barkos! A hit!
Well aimed shot, punctures upper arm!
He is stunned!
Ero swings a steel longsword at Barkos! A hit!
Slash to Barkos's chest!
Breathe deep, it'll feel better in a minute.
Ero swings a steel longsword at Barkos! A hit!
Left leg mangled horribly.
He is knocked to the ground!
Ero swings a steel longsword at Barkos! A hit!
Slash to Barkos's lower back!
sJ>
The webs dissolve from around Drud.
sJ>
Phellan waves a silvered glacial crystal wand at Ero.
The wand flashes brightly and hurls a crackling bolt of blue energy at Ero, causing him to immediately freeze in his tracks.

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Phellan has just frozen Ero solid! Oh, the cold grip of reality!"

sJ>
Lady Issalya just went west.
sJ>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Challenger Brinret just pulled a rope and triggered an death-inducing wave of power. Lucky for him. Bad for someone else."

sJ>
Brinret suddenly appears!
sJ>watch nishima
You stop watching Skeyelar and begin watching Nishima, and see...
[Droughtman's Maze]
The walls of the maze are constructed of smooth black marble with web-like veins of gold and silver that stand out boldly against the dark background. The floors are covered with iron grating, allowing for more than adequate drainage of any fluids which might be spilled within the confines of the labyrinth. Several flickering torches are placed in gold-trimmed sconces spaced evenly along the passage walls.
Also here: High Lord Brinret, Drud, the body of a stunned Barkos who is lying down, Nilandia, Phellan, Grand Lady Skeyelar, Ero, a stunned Nishima
Obvious exits: north, west
sJ>
High Lord Brinret just went north.
sJ>
Drud just tiptoed north.
sJ>
Phellan just went north.
sJ>
Nilandia just went west.
sJ>
Nishima just went north.
sJ>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Nilandia has just frozen Shilarra solid! Oh, the cold grip of reality!"

sJ>
Phellan just went east.
sJ>
Nishima just went east.
sJ>
Nishima just went northeast.
sJ>
High Lord Brinret just went northeast.
sJ>
You hear an explosion nearby, and razor-sharp shards fly into the area!

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Challenger Drud just pulled a rope and triggered an explosion of razor-sharp shards! DUCK!"

sJ>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Challenger Nilandia just pulled a rope and got a a golden key - GAME ON!"

The voice of an announcer echoes, "********** Fink just opened the white door with the golden key and wins! **********"


-Richard.

[RSR]

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Brinret just won a brilliant crimson silk cloak clasped with a mithril bear head in Droughtman's Challenge!"

P>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Issalya just won a thick green glass jar in Droughtman's Challenge!"


The voice of an announcer echoes, "Vyrshkana just won a pair of grass-stained white linen gloves in Droughtman's Challenge!"


The voice of an announcer echoes, "Luciano just won a gold and steel entwined wand in Droughtman's Challenge!"


The voice of an announcer echoes, "Nishima just won a pair of green myklian scale gloves in Droughtman's Challenge!"


The voice of an announcer echoes, "Phellan just won a thin-bladed pale vultite trident in Droughtman's Challenge!"


The voice of an announcer echoes, "Nilandia just won a bone and ebonwood entwined wand in Droughtman's Challenge!"


The voice of an announcer echoes, "Drud just won a square blue glass jar in Droughtman's Challenge!"


The voice of an announcer echoes, "Fink just won a serrated opalescent falchion in Droughtman's Challenge!"


The voice of an announcer echoes, "Barkos just won a thick-bladed vultite espadon in Droughtman's Challenge!"

No idea what any of it does, that's just the messaging I saw when people got their prizes.

-Richard.

[Fallen]

No idea on the weapons, but two dual wands is nice. I think those myklian scale gloves increase swimming, heh.

[Originate]

Thanks for posting. How much silver did you walk away with?

[Hips]

Thanks for posting. How much silver did you walk away with?

It seems like most people made between 500k and 1 mil. I personally made just under 600k.

[Ryvicke]

It seems like most people made between 500k and 1 mil. I personally made just under 600k.

Sounds like they toned it down then. I didn't pull a rope for the entire last half hour (didn't want to get sent back to the beginning while I was looking for the door) and I still made more than 2m.

[Anebriated]

Thats a shame, could have paid for half the ticket right there

[Hips]

Sounds like they toned it down then. I didn't pull a rope for the entire last half hour (didn't want to get sent back to the beginning while I was looking for the door) and I still made more than 2m.

Yep, it was posted on the Plat side that they were reducing the amount of coins, but putting in four times as many ropes, or something along those lines.

[Ryvicke]

I formally request someone to QQ heartily in the discussions with Simutronics folder.

[Kitsun]

Those splitting weapons are dead sexy. I'd love a pair of katars for my rogue.

[Originate]

what are pup tents?

[That Jay]

>get tent
You remove a folded olive green tent from in your black wool cloak.

>stand tent
Roundtime: 5 sec.
You quickly unfold the olive green tent, pull out the stakes, and spread it all out on the correct spot of ground. After a quick moment of pulling and standing, the tent is upright and ready to go.

>go tent
[Hubris's Tent]
This tent conforms to military standards for officer's tents throughout the empire and beyond. Overlapping oil-cloth flaps have grommetted closures and tie-back laces, load-bearing support poles are augmented with steel braces, and every visible seam is reinforced with double stitched leather panels. The ground is swept bare with a military attention to order. The various smells of a lifetime of past battles still linger in the air. You also see a tent flap.
Obvious exits: none
>go flap
[Wehnimer's, Exterior]
The shore extends into a small, sandy promontory that juts into Darkstone Bay. The Landing's great river gate lies southeast of here, guarded on either side by tall twin towers. To the west, this path continues on between Wehnimer's wooden palisade and the sandy beaches along the bay. You also see a olive green tent, a long wooden dock, a small rabbit skeleton, a small wooden cart with a long gleaming wire on it and a shell-strewn path.
Obvious paths: west

>fold tent
Roundtime: 5 sec.
You methodically unhook the body of the olive green tent from the stakes and fold it back up into a neat bundle.
R>put tent in my cloak
You put a folded olive green tent in your black wool cloak.
______

The auction/raffle quality ones can hold four people, and they are critter proof.

[Sheikh]

What are the splitting weapons, and are the tents the locked or unlocked version?

[crb]

So the wands seem to have no chance of failure when waved? Unlike PC batons?

[Originate]

Here's how it works:
Holding your falchion with both hands, you press a small button in the hilt and separate the weapon into two halves.
>glance
You glance down to see a silver-edged black vultite falchion in your right hand and a silver-edged black vultite falchion in your left hand.
>close falch
Holding the two halves of your falchion in each hand, you carefully recombine the two halves of your weapon into one.
>glance
You glance down to see a silver-edged black vultite falchion in your right hand and nothing in your left hand.
Meg

You concentrate intently, focusing all your energies.
With instinctive motions, you weave to and fro striking with deliberate and unrelenting fury!
You swing a thick rolaren talon sword at a velnalin!
AS: +73 vs DS: +11 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +4 = +102
... and hit for 1 point of damage!
Blow slides along the ribs.
Probably tickles.
** Your rolaren talon sword pulses with a burst of plasma energy! **
... 20 points of damage!
Powerful burst to the velnalin's back causes excruciating pain.
The velnalin collapses to the ground, emits a final sigh, and dies.
You swing a thick rolaren talon sword at a velnalin!
AS: +73 vs DS: +13 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +75 = +171
... and hit for 52 points of damage!
Slash to the velnalin's lower back!
The velnalin collapses to the ground, emits a final sigh, and dies.
You swing a thick rolaren talon sword at a velnalin!
AS: +73 vs DS: +17 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +1 = +93
A clean miss.
You swing a thick rolaren talon sword at a velnalin!
AS: +63 vs DS: +17 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +31 = +113
... and hit for 8 points of damage!
Attack hits the velnalin's throat but doesn't break the skin.
Close!
** Your rolaren talon sword pulses with a burst of plasma energy! **
... 35 points of damage!
A raw, red hole is drilled in the velnalin's chest by a powerful bolt!
The velnalin collapses to the ground, emits a final sigh, and dies.
Your flurry of strikes leaves you off-balance and out of position.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
>close my sword
Holding the two halves of your sword in each hand, you carefully recombine the two halves of your weapon into one.

XXXX swings his broadsword at your rolaren talon sword and connects!
Your sword is knocked to the ground!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
R>
A sword rises from the ground and flies back to your waiting hand!
>close my sword
Holding the two halves of your sword in each hand, you carefully recombine the two halves of your weapon into one.

*all info taken from various posts from the officials

[Spooky]

Anyone know if redux applies to this maze, considering you are given a random set of armor?

[Fallen]

Redux is not diminished.

[Sheikh]

Anyone know if redux applies to this maze, considering you are given a random set of armor?

But without your old armor is it even worth entering, you are nothing without it and that damn 3 CvA gets you killed everytime.....

[Kithus]

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Brinret just won a brilliant crimson silk cloak clasped with a mithril bear head in Droughtman's Challenge!"
+2 strength, +5 two handed weapons

P>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Issalya just won a thick green glass jar in Droughtman's Challenge!"
75 item alchemy jar (changed/removed before the prime runs due to feedback)


The voice of an announcer echoes, "Vyrshkana just won a pair of grass-stained white linen gloves in Droughtman's Challenge!"
First Aid/Suvival enhancements, I don't remember the exact number

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Luciano just won a gold and steel entwined wand in Droughtman's Challenge!"
Major Shock/Major Fire wand

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Nishima just won a pair of green myklian scale gloves in Droughtman's Challenge!"
+6 picking/+4 disarm

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Phellan just won a thin-bladed pale vultite trident in Droughtman's Challenge!"
Enchanted, steam flares, assuming 5x

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Nilandia just won a bone and ebonwood entwined wand in Droughtman's Challenge!"
Pain/Disintegrate wand

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Drud just won a square blue glass jar in Droughtman's Challenge!"
75 item alchemy jar

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Fink just won a serrated opalescent falchion in Droughtman's Challenge!"
5x, lightning flares

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Barkos just won a thick-bladed vultite espadon in Droughtman's Challenge!"
5x?, plasma flares

[Archigeek]

Most of those items seem weak to me. The exceptions being the double wands and the dividing blades. The gloves are OK too I guess, particularly since enhancive clothing is so rare.

[Androidpk]

Most of those items seem weak to me. The exceptions being the double wands and the dividing blades. The gloves are OK too I guess, particularly since enhancive clothing is so rare.

Yeah I haven't seen anything noteworthy yet. Even the split weapons are novelty at best.

Hoping they have some really good items thrown in there, blink weapons would be hot. Or a fire immolation greatsword :D

[Nilandia]

Yeah I haven't seen anything noteworthy yet.
How about a property? One went out the first run.

Gretchen

[Androidpk]

Maybe I'm just picky. I'm usually only interested in TWH :/

[RSR]

As far as betting goes as a spectator, you can have up to 7 wagers on contestants. All competitors start out at 10:1 odds of winning. The more bets placed on a person, the lower their odds become. You can bet more than once on the same person (For example...bet 100k at the start of the maze, then bet again if you see the same person find a golden key.)...but those bets count as 2 of your 7 max. Betting more than once on the same person doesn't combine the bets.

The house takes a 10% cut of the bets placed, so your winnings are determined by the amount bet minus the house cut.

You can make a lot more money betting than you can on pulling ropes in the maze.

-Richard.

p.s. My item from the initial run was a quiver with +5 ranged bonus. Belt worn.

[BigWorm]

Yeah I haven't seen anything noteworthy yet. Even the split weapons are novelty at best.

Hoping they have some really good items thrown in there, blink weapons would be hot. Or a fire immolation greatsword :D

Split weapons would be pretty badass for TWC warrior or paladin since the bond applies to both halves. Also you can enchant the whole and the pieces both get the enchantment.

[Androidpk]

Split weapons would be pretty badass for TWC warrior or paladin since the bond applies to both halves. Also you can enchant the whole and the pieces both get the enchantment.

They share the same bond? Now THAT is cool. I didn't know that.

[BigWorm]

They share the same bond? Now THAT is cool. I didn't know that.

Yep, the creator showed a log of them being dropped due to an itchy curse and both flew back into his hands. Also had a clip of plasma flares going off on both weapons.

[BigWorm]

75 item alchemy jars are super lame though.

[Drew]

blink weapons would be hot.



No thank you!!!

[Drew]

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Brinret just won a brilliant crimson silk cloak clasped with a mithril bear head in Droughtman's Challenge!"
+2 strength, +5 two handed weapons

P>

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Issalya just won a thick green glass jar in Droughtman's Challenge!"
75 item alchemy jar (changed/removed before the prime runs due to feedback)


The voice of an announcer echoes, "Vyrshkana just won a pair of grass-stained white linen gloves in Droughtman's Challenge!"
First Aid/Suvival enhancements, I don't remember the exact number

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Luciano just won a gold and steel entwined wand in Droughtman's Challenge!"
Major Shock/Major Fire wand

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Nishima just won a pair of green myklian scale gloves in Droughtman's Challenge!"
+6 picking/+4 disarm

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Phellan just won a thin-bladed pale vultite trident in Droughtman's Challenge!"
Enchanted, steam flares, assuming 5x

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Nilandia just won a bone and ebonwood entwined wand in Droughtman's Challenge!"
Pain/Disintegrate wand

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Drud just won a square blue glass jar in Droughtman's Challenge!"
75 item alchemy jar

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Fink just won a serrated opalescent falchion in Droughtman's Challenge!"
5x, lightning flares

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Barkos just won a thick-bladed vultite espadon in Droughtman's Challenge!"
5x?, plasma flares



Wow if this is the average prize for a run I'm glad I didn't sign up! A 5x flaring weapon? Oh wow, 1.5 million coins. You could have done better buying 30 dollars worth of silver and buying the prizes from people.



On the other hand, as someone who already has a bunch of nice items this is a good thing. If they made 1000 GREAT items all the great items in the game now would crash in value.

[Androidpk]

No thank you!!!

You already have one, why would you care?

[Drew]

You already have one, why would you care?

Because I paid an assload for it and I want it to retain value. Self-interest and all. Kind of like the first people who bought shadowdeath weapons and then saw another billion of them come out. I seriously doubt they'll release many if any more blink weapons though, they're like the steel weapons or pure coraesine in that they're just too powerful to release a ton.

[Kithus]

75 item alchemy jars are super lame though.

It's worth noting again that several of us pointed out the jars as a problem item (and lame was the exact word I used in my feedback as well). There was a mini brain storming session between most of the plat players in run 2 and about a dozen GMs as far as what to do with them. This ranged from replacing them entirely to doing a set of 2 100 item jars instead. Suffice it to say I honestly doubt that the single 75 item jar will make it to prime runs.

Edit: Just wanted to add that the staff has been exceptionally responsive to feedback given by runners, blockers and spectators. Plat players, for the most part, have been taking their "beta tester responsibility" seriously and I think once all the kinks are worked out you guys are going to end up with an awesome event.

[Drakefang]

I think the cloak that was won was simply magnificent. While the bonuses may seem low, it is a clothing item. Same with the quiver and the picking gloves. FA and Survival, I'd be disappointed with sure. I suppose while not being overpowering, you have just added +6 to any THW in the game by wearing it. I've never once found an auction class item, held one or ever used one in combat. I wouldn't know that quality if it hit me in the face. I think too many people that are questioning the event have owned and used them. This is raising expectations to a potentially unreasonable level.

I'd pay a lot for that cloak or more for one that does the same for OHE/poles. I will admit, finding something truly extraordinary would be nice but it's not what I am expecting or paying $30 to get. I'd be pretty thrilled with a set of HCW 4x full plate/hauberk or those weapons that split. Hrm, do you guys think the splitting weapons are auction quality?

[Androidpk]

Because I paid an assload for it and I want it to retain value. Self-interest and all. Kind of like the first people who bought shadowdeath weapons and then saw another billion of them come out. I seriously doubt they'll release many if any more blink weapons though, they're like the steel weapons or pure coraesine in that they're just too powerful to release a ton.

So because you overpaid for something you don't want others to be able to enjoy it. Right.

Your lame excuse is lame.

[Drew]

So because you overpaid for something you don't want others to be able to enjoy it. Right.

Your lame excuse is lame.

Well I don't think I overpaid, it's an awesome weapon. But I don't think it's lame to hope they don't release more. It's similar to buying an expensive piece of art in real life, you sure as hell hope the painter doesn't make 100 copies. I don't think that's selfish to hope he doesn't, if it is... whatever, I'll be that guy.

[Androidpk]

If I bought a painting that I enjoyed why would I care if others had one to enjoy as well? Same thing applies to anything else. Especially in a computer game. To not wish for anyone else to be able to use something like that, because you have one already, is beyond selfish.

[prance1520]

So because you overpaid for something you don't want others to be able to enjoy it. Right.

Your lame excuse is lame.

Careful, the whole gemstone economy is built on exclusivity. Putting out many high ticket items so everyone can enjoy them would really screw with the economy.

[Drew]

I guess you're the lucky guy who has unlimited money and doesn't need to consider the financial implications of these things. I agree that if you bought a painting for 20 bucks your attitude would make sense but what if you bought one for 2 million?

[Ryvicke]

pk--you're being a socialist. If someone wants their item to retain its value due to low-supply/high-demand that's totally okay. We can't go around giving everyone a blink weapon just cause they want one.

[Androidpk]

First of all, apples and oranges.

Gemstone = computer game.

$2 million painting = not a computer game.

[Androidpk]

pk--you're being a socialist. If someone wants their item to retain its value due to low-supply/high-demand that's totally okay. We can't go around giving everyone a blink weapon just cause they want one.

I never said anything about giving everyone one, I only mentioned increasing the number of blink weapons available.

[prance1520]

I never said anything about giving everyone one, I only mentioned increasing the number of blink weapons available.

Still, adding 5 or 10 more to a game that only has 500ish players is a fairly large percentage increase as far as supply goes.

[RSR]

You're also talking about a weapon that's radically different for each profession that wields it. You have to know the spell you imbed it with for it to flare. Fairly ineffective weapon for a warrior, so-so for rogues, great for semis (maybe not paladins as much as bards or rangers), damned good for a weapon swinging pure that bops things over the head with a big stick.

-Richard.

[Smythe]

Next we'll see *BIFF*, BAM!!, an' -POW!-

Feelin' like I'm watchin' Batman, not a THROGGin'.

- Smythe

[Androidpk]

Still, adding 5 or 10 more to a game that only has 500ish players is a fairly large percentage increase as far as supply goes.

Yes and then the people like Inspire that base their life around the Gemstone economy would be in trouble! Good call sir. What was I thinking.

[Kitsun]

There's also the Monty Haul aspect of it. Releasing too many high end goods has adverse effects on game balance and player perspective on difficulty.

Countering the argument though. Look at the elemental bows. The numbers went from like 6(original) to 12(ranger) to 30+ (WD, EG, ect). You don't really see them everywhere. They're still highly desired and sought after so much so people will go to the grave with them. The prices however, went through a roller coaster. Originals were like 300m+, the height of WD saw some move for 90m, now they seem to be 200m.

[Androidpk]

Does 1630 work with blink weapons? That would be pretty awesome.

[Enceladus]

1630 does indeed work with them, though I remember it taking a few casts for it to finally imbue the weapon, when I was testing it.

I think Nature's Fury will take, too.

[Bobmuhthol]

If I bought a painting that I enjoyed why would I care if others had one to enjoy as well?

I don't know, maybe a general sense of fairness? If I bought a painting, of which there was supposedly only one, but then the next day the guy who sold it to me started putting them on the market en masse and driving the price down, I'd be pretty fucking upset.

Read the first chapter of Jennifer Government.

[Androidpk]

I don't know, maybe a general sense of fairness? If I bought a painting, of which there was supposedly only one, but then the next day the guy who sold it to me started putting them on the market en masse and driving the price down, I'd be pretty fucking upset.

Read the first chapter of Jennifer Government.

What does this have to do with blink weapons? There were more than released at EG and Simu never said anything about not releasing more in the future. If they had (or if they did and I'm not aware of it) then that would be a different story.

[Bobmuhthol]

I don't know or care what a fucking blink weapon is. The point you made was that you don't care if you pay money for something and other people later purchase the same thing for less money because it doesn't affect you. In reality, it should, and if it doesn't there's something wrong with you.

[Androidpk]

I don't know or care what a fucking blink weapon is. The point you made was that you don't care if you pay money for something and other people later purchase the same thing for less money because it doesn't affect you. In reality, it should, and if it doesn't there's something wrong with you.

Prices fluctuate. I buy something and then later on someone pays more or less for the same thing. It happens every day. Why would I let something like that bother me?

[Bobmuhthol]

Yeah I'm done, fuck it.

[crb]

Auric Goldfinger.

[phantasm]

Simu doesn't care about your money unless its going to someone other than them.

[RSR]

prizes from 3rd beta run:

Qadheon eagerly dives into a glittering heap of treasure and fishes around wildly before coming up with a flame-carved crimson glaes lance! Scrambling to his feet, he gleefully hefts the lance in the air for all to see.
Droughtman says, "Lance is enchanted with fire flares."

You eagerly dive into a glittering heap of treasure and fish around wildly before coming up with a green kelyn fist-scythe! Scrambling to your feet, you gleefully heft your fist-scythe in the air for all to see.
Acid immolator

Laethia eagerly dives into a glittering heap of treasure and fishes around wildly before coming up with a hammered silver cauldron! Scrambling to her feet, she gleefully hefts the cauldron in the air for all to see.
Droughtman says, "Cauldron - has a little personality of its own."

Noriyaki eagerly dives into a glittering heap of treasure and fishes around wildly before coming up with a rhimar-cored silvery glaes tetsubo wrapped with white snowcat fur along its handle! Scrambling to his feet, he gleefully hefts the tetsubo in the air for all to see.
Droughtman says, "Tetsubo has cold flares and is enchanted."

Harnen eagerly dives into a glittering heap of treasure and fishes around wildly before coming up with a large meaty femur! Scrambling to his feet, he gleefully hefts the femur in the air for all to see.
Summons a unique wolf-familiar 3x/day.

Ofvagon eagerly dives into a glittering heap of treasure and fishes around wildly before coming up with a pair of invar-toed brown leather boots laced with braided blue cotton! Scrambling to his feet, he gleefully hefts the boots in the air for all to see.
Droughtman says, "Boots are special climbing boots."

Mirrami eagerly dives into a glittering heap of treasure and fishes around wildly before coming up with a gem-encrusted rolaren broad axe! Scrambling to her feet, she gleefully hefts the axe in the air for all to see.
Droughtman says, "The axe is a splitting weapon as well."

Delcian eagerly dives into a glittering heap of treasure and fishes around wildly before coming up with a slim kelyn band inset with a faceted firestone cabochon! Scrambling to his feet, he gleefully hefts the band in the air for all to see.

Gien eagerly dives into a glittering heap of treasure and fishes around wildly before coming up with a verdant faenor scabbard twined with silvery mithril leaves! Scrambling to her feet, she gleefully hefts the scabbard in the air for all to see.
OHE enhancive

Aizen eagerly dives into a glittering heap of treasure and fishes around wildly before coming up with a thick vaalorn longsword adorned with a dragon's-tear emerald at each end of the hilt! Scrambling to his feet, he gleefully hefts the longsword in the air for all to see.
Droughtman says, "Longsword I saw was one of the splitting weapons I believe."



-Richard

[Androidpk]

Some nice items. I especially like the wolf familiar. Still hoping to see a THW fire immolator.

[droit]

What's a splitting weapon?

[Fallen]

A weapon that will split into two. You can bond to both blades, so ideal for warriors and paladins.

[Drew]

Also good at gymnastics.

[Androidpk]

Those axes would be great for a berserking warrior. Add fire flares and go to town in a troll camp. Talk about screen spam.

[Drew]

Troll camps are the best.

[crb]

I wonder if any scroll tattoos made it into the pile.

[RSR]

You can enchant the 'splitting' weapons when they are in the combined form and the enchant will apply to both weapons when split. Basically 2 major enchants at once.

-Richard.

[Drew]

That's pretty cool, decent of them to allow that.

[Androidpk]

Who won the glamour tattoo from the last EG? I never did end up seeing what those ones did.

[Kitsun]

Who won the glamour tattoo from the last EG? I never did end up seeing what those ones did.

I think three went out. Never saw any of them in action yet.

[BriarFox]

Anyone know what that ring prize was? Firestone cabochon might suggest a fireball ring.

[petroglyph]

Who won the glamour tattoo from the last EG? I never did end up seeing what those ones did.

Bremerial got one of them, I know.


She has intermittent flashes of fiery red within deep, dark eyes and dark smoke rising from her black rough-hewn skin. She has waist-length, wild flame-red hair glistening with sweat and forming multiple snakelike tendrils that writhe independently of each other. She has a deeply scarred scale-encrusted face, an ebon beak-like nose and a pair of ears dripping with a thick pungent liquid. A strong wind appears to envelop her body, but although small particles of earth swirl about her, the earth never veers from her dark frame.

[Brad]

Anyone know what that ring prize was? Firestone cabochon might suggest a fireball ring.

I think I saw the chat mention that it did Arcane Decoy, raised Aura, and upped Mana Regen. Unless I'm mixing up items.

[BriarFox]

I think I saw the chat mention that it did Arcane Decoy, raised Aura, and upped Mana Regen. Unless I'm mixing up items.

Hm. Unless it's self-charging, that's a touch boring. Oh, well.

[waywardgs]

This a prime run?

[Androidpk]

Bremerial got one of them, I know.

That's pretty cool. Would love to see the others.

[Rimalon]

Hm. Unless it's self-charging, that's a touch boring. Oh, well.

If it's mage-rechargeable, it's essentially self-charging! 517 doesn't completely suck, remember! Only utterly.

[Androidpk]

This a prime run?

First prime run isn't until March 4th.

[whiteflash]

That's pretty cool. Would love to see the others.

My brother won one of them. Don't think he'd mind me posting it...

You see Dhairn the Heretic.
He appears to be a Dark Elf.
He is taller than average and appears to be very young. He has spiderweb-veined obsidian black eyes and roughly scaled ebon skin. He has a shaven head of stark white hair with an ankle-length braid dyed blood red at the tip.

>rub sigil
>
The air around you briefly shimmers, and you feel as if something about you has changed.

You see Dhairn the Heretic.
He appears to be a Dark Elf.
He is taller than average and appears to be very young. He has violent flashes of red in his spiderweb-veined obsidian black eyes and tracings of brilliantly white spiderwebs glowing beneath glistening black, reptilian skin. He has only a fiery, crimson-lined braid for hair that drips ethereal liquid flames from the tip. Despite his youth, there is an ageless cast to his strong-featured face, and he carries himself with a distinctly imposing air. He is surrounded by a luminescence like a fading star that flares blindingly before succumbing to the darkness of the void. Each time the light pulses, he is overshadowed by the fleeting image of a striking wyrm.


>tap sigil
You trail your fingers across an inky black sigil, and the liquid flames that drip from your braid momentarily flare up, boiling like white-hot lava as they fall toward the earth.


The liquid flames that drip from Dhairn's braid momentarily flare up, boiling like white-hot lava as they fall toward the earth.

[Asha]

They are amaaazing!

[Androidpk]

They are amaaazing!

Spiderman?

[Kitsun]

Each time the light pulses, he is overshadowed by the fleeting image of a striking wyrm.


Does that line mean that he's doing a strobe effect but instead of lit/unlit, it's him or a big ass wyrm?

[whiteflash]

Does that line mean that he's doing a strobe effect but instead of lit/unlit, it's him or a big ass wyrm?

I honestly don't know how that one shows the room. There are a few that seem to randomly pop up when he's running it. Either it is a command I don't know or it randomly goes off.

[RSR]

You get to create a message that fires off every few minutes to reinforce the fact that it's an illusion and not your actual appearance.

And they are pretty fucking sweet.

-Richard.

[BriarFox]

I just signed up for a second run solely because of those illusion charms. So fricking cool.

[GTG]

Ye, here is what I was told by the GM when I got the glamour.

(OOC) Illeya's player whispers to the group, "To get Kakoon into what it is -- these are basically temporary feature tattoos. They're possible, in terms of your characters, through glamours -- magic. And because of that, what you put for the temporary features can be a lot like illusion."


(OOC) Illeya's player whispers to the group, "Since they're features, they still have to fit right in the feature fields -- so when you look at someone, the main wording, like "She has ... eyes and .... skin. She has .... hair. And so on."

(OOC) Illeya's player whispers to the group, "But if you want a fog hanging around your feet while the illusion is up, that's possible. Your eyes can be red. Your hair can look like it's on fire."

(OOC) Kaikala's player whispers, "Traps fare push, pull, turn, and tap. And rub will toggle the illusion on and off. It'll stay up for 3 hours at a time, with a pulse every 10-15 minutes -- after 3 hours, it drops, so you just have to rub it to get it back up."

Hope that helps.

[BriarFox]

Ye, here is what I was told by the GM when I got the glamour.

(OOC) Illeya's player whispers to the group, "To get Kakoon into what it is -- these are basically temporary feature tattoos. They're possible, in terms of your characters, through glamours -- magic. And because of that, what you put for the temporary features can be a lot like illusion."


(OOC) Illeya's player whispers to the group, "Since they're features, they still have to fit right in the feature fields -- so when you look at someone, the main wording, like "She has ... eyes and .... skin. She has .... hair. And so on."

(OOC) Illeya's player whispers to the group, "But if you want a fog hanging around your feet while the illusion is up, that's possible. Your eyes can be red. Your hair can look like it's on fire."

(OOC) Kaikala's player whispers, "Traps fare push, pull, turn, and tap. And rub will toggle the illusion on and off. It'll stay up for 3 hours at a time, with a pulse every 10-15 minutes -- after 3 hours, it drops, so you just have to rub it to get it back up."

Hope that helps.

The charms are permanent, though, even though the illusion only lasts for up to 3 hrs, right? Oh, and are they transferable?

[Drew]

The charms are permanent, though, even though the illusion only lasts for up to 3 hrs, right? Oh, and are they transferable?



(OOC) Kaikala's player whispers, "Traps fare push, pull, turn, and tap. And rub will toggle the illusion on and off. It'll stay up for 3 hours at a time, with a pulse every 10-15 minutes -- after 3 hours, it drops, so you just have to rub it to get it back up."

Seems like that is what she is saying.

[RSR]

Glamour tattoos are not offered as a prize at this event that I have seen. Someone merely inquired about them.

[BriarFox]

Glamour tattoos are not offered as a prize at this event that I have seen. Someone merely inquired about them.

Bah.

[Rimalon]

They twittered about glamour CRYSTALS as prizes, which are... the ones where you turn into "a tall dark figure" or "shining white knight" or whatever, yeah?

[BriarFox]

They twittered about glamour CRYSTALS as prizes, which are... the ones where you turn into "a tall dark figure" or "shining white knight" or whatever, yeah?

True.

[Drunken Durfin]

Just read this whole thread.

Event seems to be dildos.

Not going.

[Lady Lightning]

Here's my glamour tatt on my plat char.

You see Lexianne.
She appears to be a Human from Torre.
She is shorter than average and appears to be very young. She has velvety-lashed, chestnut brown eyes and delicately freckled tanned skin. She has glossy, copper red hair sun-kissed with strands of pale gold that spills down her back in loose tendrils. Her well-defined cheekbones are softened by a slight dimple on each cheek.
She has an inky black sigil on her wrist.


The sound of rushing waves fills your head, and you suddenly see the ocean all around you. As a curtain of sea foam washes over you, the illusion, in its entirety, falls away into a skirt of tiny bubbles that disappear at your feet.

You see Lexianne.
She appears to be a Human from Torre.
She is shorter than average and appears to be very young. She has a wild, silvery tempest silently raging in the depths of her thickly-lashed storm blue eyes and small amethyst scales visible just beneath the surface of her pale ivory skin. She has waist-length, lilac hair with blonde highlights that shine like spun gold. A tangled crown of red coral, glittering seaweed, and small starfish crests her mane of curls that has been woven throughout with slender ropes of lustrous pearls. Her well-defined features are softened by a slight dimple on each cheek, and a slender line of dark waves has been inked down her collarbone, its shape changing as though being pulled to-and-fro by an ocean's tides. An opalescent glow akin to moonlight surrounds her, lending a fey resplendence to her facade.

>tap sigil
You trail your finger across an inky black sigil, and a large clam shell appears at your feet. You step into it, and as it closes around you, you suddenly find yourself exactly as you were you were before it appeared.

Super girly, but I like it and it really fits her RP, although I've not used it much because I want it to be special when I do. I only wished I could get one for my V'tullian warrior Lurrah in prime. I'd love to use it to show her overtaken (and kill? people). Or change my priestess into her Arkati,

[Drakefang]

Okay, that's hot.

[Wrathbringer]

Just read this whole thread.

Event seems to be dildos.

Not going.

:yeahthat:

[RSR]

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Sadan just won a silk-lined red velvet cloak fastened with a golden sun brooch in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-aids mana recovery
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Brinret just won a pallid mistwood case inset with spiraling shadowy blue dreamstones in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-incense case
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Eulogia just won a blotched leather bladder in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-thief deterrent, +25 to perception
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Kaliq just won a thick rolaren talon sword with a diamond-studded hilt in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-splitting weapon
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Annelise just won a carved rowan runestaff in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-ice immolater
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Sventyle just won a backless eahnor red damask gown swirled with lustrous gold flourishes in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-metallic gown
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Aizen just won a dark rotted-leather grimoire stamped with a faded sigil in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-arcane circle scroll. No idea which spells exactly.
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Deleu just won a gold-streaked dark bronze cauldron in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-animated cauldron
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Issalya just won a gornar-tipped spear in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-earth immolater spear
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Vyrshkana just won a blink weapon certificate in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-certificate says it's not transferrable for unknown reasons since you presumably can trade the weapon once you redeem it...

-Richard.

[thefarmer]

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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Brinret just won a pallid mistwood case inset with spiraling shadowy blue dreamstones in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-incense case

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Sventyle just won a backless eahnor red damask gown swirled with lustrous gold flourishes in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-metallic gown



^ Got hosed


The voice of an announcer echoes, "Eulogia just won a blotched leather bladder in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-thief deterrent, +25 to perception
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Aizen just won a dark rotted-leather grimoire stamped with a faded sigil in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-arcane circle scroll. No idea which spells exactly.

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Sadan just won a silk-lined red velvet cloak fastened with a golden sun brooch in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-aids mana recovery

^ Barely got their money's worth IMO. Cloak might belong in the hosed category depending on the bonus

[Drakefang]

As long as the cloak holds VLA, I'd be pretty happy with it. 4 mil for an enhancive container doesn't seem to be a stretch. There simply are not many clothing options that boost stats.

[Drakefang]

Also, if you turn that around, the blink weapon and the immolaters are more than a bargain...albeit odd weapon bases. At $7 per mil, these items should basically only be in the 4-4.5 mil range of value. Getting handed a 50mil item skews the average a lot. I've seen a lot of items that I'd pay 4 mil for released so far and happily at that.

[RSR]

6lbs, VLA, +2 mana recovery, +3 max mana. NOT max lightened or deepened.

-Richard.

[Drakefang]

Alright, that's not worth 4 mil. Maybe 2 mil. I was thinking it'd be something like +5 to mana recovery. Any idea how much it holds?

[Drew]

Is the blink cert for a weapon you own or you choose amongst weapon bases?

[RSR]

You choose a weapon base for a new blink weapon.

-Richard.

[crb]

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Aizen just won a dark rotted-leather grimoire stamped with a faded sigil in Droughtman's Challenge!"
-arcane circle scroll. No idea which spells exactly.
.

If its like the one I own:

It takes you a moment to focus on the rotted-leather grimoire.
On the rotted-leather grimoire you see
(1701) Arcane Decoy
(1706) Flaming Aura
(1708) Mystic Impedance
(1711) Mystic Focus
(1712) Spirit Guard
(1720) Arcane Barrier


Not that special, in the end.

[Androidpk]

What's with all the shitty weapon bases for the immolators?

[crb]

^ Got hosed



^ Barely got their money's worth IMO. Cloak might belong in the hosed category depending on the bonus


If it really is +25 to perception (and the other one that was released in prime previously was only +10 so I question it) I'd say its a pretty sweet item. Belt worn +25 enhancive.

[Androidpk]

You choose a weapon base for a new blink weapon.

-Richard.

:drool: x 20

[Tsk Tsk]

Cross post from Drizzt-12 on the officials of tonight's prizes in plat.

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Jodinor just won a fiery tangerine spessartine garnet with darker orange speckles in Droughtman's Challenge!"

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Mithogras just won a polished rosewood case ornately inlaid with violet feystone wildflowers in Droughtman's Challenge!"

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Rhyssa just won a gold-edged silver scroll tube etched with various birds in Droughtman's Challenge!"

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Hazeruth just won a black cherry silk houppelande hemmed with dark lace in Droughtman's Challenge!"

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Jornaal just won a silvery-grey slender eonake katana in Droughtman's Challenge!"

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Beinion just won a gold-flecked carved crystal sheath in Droughtman's Challenge!"

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Valmos just won a round-lipped black steel cauldron in Droughtman's Challenge!"

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Isanae just won a low-waisted faenor green chainsil bliaut twined with bright copper knotwork in Droughtman's Challenge!"

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Philnia just won an aged walnut-hued leather valise with a narrow golden beryl handle in Droughtman's Challenge!"

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Skeyelar just won a multi-toned lagoon blue eostone with a sleek metalic sheen in Droughtman's Challenge!"

[RSR]

The voice of an announcer echoes, "Jodinor just won a fiery tangerine spessartine garnet with darker orange speckles in Droughtman's Challenge!" forehead gem
The voice of an announcer echoes, "Mithogras just won a polished rosewood case ornately inlaid with violet feystone wildflowers in Droughtman's Challenge!" In the rosewood case you see a slip of ecru parchment, a dew-kissed dark raspberry rose, a circle of silver-white willow, some ivory vanilla orchid incense, some ivory vanilla orchid incense, some ivory vanilla orchid incense, some ivory vanilla orchid incense, some ivory vanilla orchid incense, a silk-netted rose smudge stick, a silk-netted rose smudge stick, a silk-netted rose smudge stick, a silk-netted rose smudge stick and a silk-netted rose smudge stick.
J>read my parch
In the Common language, it reads:
This case of aromatics contains a rare collection of incense, flora, and intricately crafted smudge sticks.
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Rhyssa just won a gold-edged silver scroll tube etched with various birds in Droughtman's Challenge!"

(509) Strength
(606) Phoen's Strength
(1617) Zealot
(215) Heroism
1 unreadable spell(1718)
(109) Dispel Invisibility
(208) Living Spell
(417) Elemental Dispel
(217) Mass Interference
1 unreadable spell(119)
(116) Locate Person
(213) Minor Sanctuary
(305) Preservation
(308) Well of Life
2 unreadable spells(225 and 130)
The voice of an announcer echoes, "Hazeruth just won a black cherry silk houppelande hemmed with dark lace in Droughtman's Challenge!" Yfane gown
The voice of an announcer echoes, "Jornaal just won a silvery-grey slender eonake katana in Droughtman's Challenge!" 4x, sancted, HCW
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Beinion just won a gold-flecked carved crystal sheath in Droughtman's Challenge!" chronomage dagger inside
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Valmos just won a round-lipped black steel cauldron in Droughtman's Challenge!" animated cauldron
The voice of an announcer echoes, "Isanae just won a low-waisted faenor green chainsil bliaut twined with bright copper knotwork in Droughtman's Challenge!" metallic gown?
The voice of an announcer echoes, "Philnia just won an aged walnut-hued leather valise with a narrow golden beryl handle in Droughtman's Challenge!" cravats and tie pins inside.
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The voice of an announcer echoes, "Skeyelar just won a multi-toned lagoon blue eostone with a sleek metalic sheen in Droughtman's Challenge!" forehead gem


-Richard.

[beer]

gowns = bullshit

[DCSL]

The Nalea/Yfane gowns are worth a few million if you don't want it.

[Ugotfaced]

Anyone recieve any ranged weapons or armor yet??

[Fallen]

Haven't seen one go out, I don't think.

[Ugotfaced]

can the splitting weapons be sold?? haha price range on those??

[Fallen]

can the splitting weapons be sold?? haha price range on those??

That will definitely depend on the base.

[Fallen]

I wanted to put this in a separate thread just to make sure everyone sees it and to answer these questions all at once.

>Why isn't the first run visible in the box office anymore?

Oversight, but it's fixed now. The information was just set to invisible a day early.

>What time does tonight's first run start?

7pm eastern (not 6)

>What will happen when Daylight Savings time ends/begins/whatever it does in the spring?

We will always go by real time not in-game time for box office events. Notice that the event start times all say "ET" not "EST" or "EDT" - whatever time it is on the US east coast on the day of your event will control the time we start the run.

>OMG can we start already!?

I know, right!?

~Sirina


Though she could have just as easily X-posted this info here as I could.

[Androidpk]

Ooooooh yeah, that's tonight.

[Brad]

I foresee a great deal of extra bitching about Droughman's Challenge following its first run.

[Fallen]

I foresee a great deal of extra bitching about Droughman's Challenge following its first run.

The trick is not to run.

[Drew]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeOHEU7Ykyg

[DCSL]

WELL, E? Let's see that taavish.

[Fallen]

Splitting weapon. Fucking bomb ass. War Hammer base, not the best, but certainly not the worst.

That's right, ladies and gentlemen. Bomb ass.