D-1 Football Signees: State by State report

[Keller]

http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1182411 (http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1182411)

D-1 Signees

Texas: 345 (161,000 total players)

Florida: 344 (39,000)

California: 253 (104,000)

Georgia: 170 (32,000)

Ohio: 144 (55,000)

Louisiana: 87 (15,000)

Alabama: 86 (22,000)

North Carolina: 79 (35,000)

Illinois: 73 (49,000)

Pennsylvania: 60 (26,000)

Michigan: 59 (43,000)

Virginia: 56 (26,000)

Mississippi: 52 (22,000)

New Jersey: 45 (26,000)

South Carolina: 44 (18,000)

Tennessee: 44 (23,000)

*Bottom of the barrel: New Hampshire(0), Vermont(0), Wyoming(0), Rhode Island(0), Montana(1), Maine(1), South Dakota(1), North Dakota(2), West Virginia(3), Idaho(4).

[Makkah]

A clear concentration of talent.

[Keller]

A clear concentration of talent.

Exactly. I just don't know how much more clear it can become that the practice of breeding slaves for physical acumen produced human beings like Dwight Howard and Trent Richardson.

[g++]

Ratio wise there is no clear geographical spot where good football players come from except Florida which is a mind boggling outlier to the point where I wonder if there is a non-football related reason so many people in Florida are able to get D1 scholarships. Like some archaic state law or something. Hawaii and Utah football players were more likely to get scholarships than Texans.

[Keller]

Ratio wise there is no clear geographical spot where good football players come from except Florida which is a mind boggling outlier to the point where I wonder if there is a non-football related reason so many people in Florida are able to get D1 scholarships. Like some archaic state law or something. Hawaii and Utah football players were more likely to get scholarships than Texans.

Really?

Florida - .88% of players are going to D1 schools
Georgia - .54%
Louisianna - .58%
Alabama - .39%

Compared to

Texas - .21%
California - .24%
Ohio - .26%
North Carolina - .23%
Illinois - .15%

[Latrinsorm]

Just because a player is going to a D1 school doesn't mean they're any good. Haven't you ever noticed how on those MNF things where each player says what school they're from at least half of them are always from schools like East Montana A&M? Now I'm interested in this, hold on while I count how many starters were from D1 schools this past year.

[g++]

Well yah but theres stuff inbetween those groups, Utah Is .37% its not an astronomical drop off.


So the south east states produce a bit more football talent ratio wise but its not like it shoots down astronomically in the mid-west/eastern seaboard. Once you get past those four states its distributed pretty evenly and jumps around quite a bit. I thought the idea was to say "The South" by listing Texas first in the OP with the other four states.

[g++]

Id like to keep watching this thread but Im just really worried someone is going to walk into my office and see Kellers Avatar lol.

[Drew]

Florida has a lot of talent but not many high schools, so less kids can play football. Texas has more smaller high schools so lesser talent gets a chance to play HS football. Part of the reason Florida looks good is that a school can field 55 kids if they have 100 boys or 3000 and a lot of Florida public schools are HUGE.

A better comparison would probably be the number of kids attending high school vs those that go D1.

[Keller]

Id like to keep watching this thread but Im just really worried someone is going to walk into my office and see Kellers Avatar lol.

Jesus fucking christ, just turn them off.

:)

[Latrinsorm]

It turns out I had no idea how many bs schools there are in the FBS. Boston College? rofl.

Anyway, I looked at the Packers who started at least 8 games and 20 out of 20 were from D1: 18 from the FBS and 2 from the FCS. To g++'s point, however, 12 of 20 went to college in the same state they were born in. The most represented state by place of birth is Michigan with 4, while the only player to go to Michigan was born in Ohio.

[Keller]

Florida has a lot of talent but not many high schools, so less kids can play football. Texas has more smaller high schools so lesser talent gets a chance to play HS football. Part of the reason Florida looks good is that a school can field 55 kids if they have 100 boys or 3000 and a lot of Florida public schools are HUGE.

A better comparison would probably be the number of kids attending high school vs those that go D1.

That explains why Florida is so skewed.

[Keller]

Just because a player is going to a D1 school doesn't mean they're any good. Haven't you ever noticed how on those MNF things where each player says what school they're from at least half of them are always from schools like East Montana A&M? Now I'm interested in this, hold on while I count how many starters were from D1 schools this past year.

Being offered a D1 scholarship has a lot to do with physical acumen and less to do with professionalism and work-ethic.

Making the NFL obviously has, as its foundation, incredible physical acumen, but on top of that, a player has to have a tremendous work ethic and it doesn't hurt to have a professional attitude (usually comes along with the work ethic).

[Drew]

Pupils per state:

# 1 California: 6,413,862
# 2 Texas: 4,331,751
# 3 New York: 2,864,775
# 4 Florida: 2,587,628
# 5 Illinois: 2,100,961
# 6 Ohio: 1,845,428
# 7 Pennsylvania: 1,821,146
# 8 Michigan: 1,757,604
# 9 Georgia: 1,522,611
# 10 New Jersey: 1,380,753
# 11 North Carolina: 1,360,209
# 12 Virginia: 1,192,092
# 13 Washington: 1,021,349
# 14 Arizona: 1,012,068
# 15 Indiana: 1,011,130
# 16 Massachusetts: 980,459
# 17 Tennessee: 936,681
# 18 Missouri: 905,941
# 19 Wisconsin: 880,031
# 20 Maryland: 869,113
# 21 Minnesota: 842,854
# 22 Colorado: 757,693
# 23 Alabama: 731,220
# 24 Louisiana: 727,709
# 25 South Carolina: 699,198
# 26 Kentucky: 663,885
# 27 Oklahoma: 626,160
# 28 Connecticut: 577,203
# 29 Oregon: 551,273
# 30 Utah: 495,981
# 31 Mississippi: 493,540
# 32 Iowa: 481,226
# 33 Kansas: 470,490
# 34 Arkansas: 454,523
# 35 Nevada: 385,401
# 36 New Mexico: 323,066
# 37 Nebraska: 285,542
# 38 West Virginia: 281,215
# 39 Idaho: 252,120
# 40 New Hampshire: 207,417
# 41 Maine: 202,084
# 42 Hawaii: 183,609
# 43 Rhode Island: 159,375
# 44 Montana: 148,356
# 45 Alaska: 133,933
# 46 South Dakota: 125,537
# 47 Delaware: 117,668
# 48 North Dakota: 102,233
# 49 Vermont: 99,103
# 50 Wyoming: 87,462
# 51 District of Columbia: 78,057



Just glancing at the numbers it's clear that Florida produces A LOT more talent than Cali and Texas per capita

[Keller]

# 1 California: 6,413,862
# 2 Texas: 4,331,751
# 3 New York: 2,864,775
# 4 Florida: 2,587,628
# 5 Illinois: 2,100,961
# 6 Ohio: 1,845,428
# 7 Pennsylvania: 1,821,146
# 8 Michigan: 1,757,604
# 9 Georgia: 1,522,611
# 10 New Jersey: 1,380,753
# 11 North Carolina: 1,360,209
# 12 Virginia: 1,192,092
# 13 Washington: 1,021,349
# 14 Arizona: 1,012,068
# 15 Indiana: 1,011,130
# 16 Massachusetts: 980,459
# 17 Tennessee: 936,681
# 18 Missouri: 905,941
# 19 Wisconsin: 880,031
# 20 Maryland: 869,113
# 21 Minnesota: 842,854
# 22 Colorado: 757,693
# 23 Alabama: 731,220
# 24 Louisiana: 727,709
# 25 South Carolina: 699,198
# 26 Kentucky: 663,885
# 27 Oklahoma: 626,160
# 28 Connecticut: 577,203
# 29 Oregon: 551,273
# 30 Utah: 495,981
# 31 Mississippi: 493,540
# 32 Iowa: 481,226
# 33 Kansas: 470,490
# 34 Arkansas: 454,523
# 35 Nevada: 385,401
# 36 New Mexico: 323,066
# 37 Nebraska: 285,542
# 38 West Virginia: 281,215
# 39 Idaho: 252,120
# 40 New Hampshire: 207,417
# 41 Maine: 202,084
# 42 Hawaii: 183,609
# 43 Rhode Island: 159,375
# 44 Montana: 148,356
# 45 Alaska: 133,933
# 46 South Dakota: 125,537
# 47 Delaware: 117,668
# 48 North Dakota: 102,233
# 49 Vermont: 99,103
# 50 Wyoming: 87,462
# 51 District of Columbia: 78,057

Now express as a percentage of D1 football scholarships to students?

Latrinsocks, I'm looking at you.

[Drew]

The clear loser is Illinois.

[Keller]

And just to be clear, there are a ton of factors that we've no considered yet.

Most importantly, to me, is the prevalance of a sport. In the midwest and northeast, where basketball is king, a great athlete is more likely to play (and take a D1 scholarship to play) basketball than football than in the southeast and Texas.

I would love to see a similar study done on the number of D1 basketball scholarships. I would bet Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Iowa, Ohio New York, New Jersey, and Maryland would top that list in terms of percentage of D1 basketball scholarships to total students.

[Keller]

That post was poorly constructed, but I need to get back to work. So deal with it (and use it in the future when I say that I choose my words with precision; that is not true of this thread).

[Latrinsorm]

Students per player:

North Carolina - 9.17
Wisconsin - 9.55
New Jersey - 14.90
Nevada - 15.50
Mississippi - 22.13
Iowa - 24.74
Texas - 26.87
New Mexico - 27.04
Montana - 31.07
Kansas - 32.90
Wyoming - 32.95
Minnesota - 33.14
Alabama - 33.16
South Dakota - 33.42
Ohio - 33.54
Idaho - 34.35
New York - 36.00
South Carolina - 36.87
Hawaii - 37.27
Delaware - 38.07
Missouri - 38.54
Michigan - 40.24
Arkansas - 40.87
Tennessee - 40.96
Oregon - 41.27
Illinois - 42.41
Indiana - 43.92
Washington - 45.55
Virginia - 46.47
Georgia - 47.45
Massachusetts - 47.54
Kentucky - 47.96
Louisiana - 49.04
Maine - 50.22
Colorado - 51.11
Oklahoma - 52.18
Arizona - 52.98
Connecticut - 53.48
Rhode Island - 54.94
Maryland/D.C. - 58.75
Utah - 61.20
California - 61.54
Alaska - 65.75
Florida - 67.62
Pennsylvania - 68.13
Vermont - 71.55
New Hampshire - 77.61
Nebraska - 127.52
West Virginia - 137.42
North Dakota - 949.23

North Dakota, what the fuck are you doing?

Thousand students per scholarship:

North Carolina - 4.09
Florida - 7.52
Nevada - 7.86
Louisiana - 8.36
Alabama - 8.50
New Jersey - 8.56
Georgia - 8.96
Mississippi - 9.49
Texas - 12.56
Wisconsin - 12.78
Ohio - 12.82
Hawaii - 13.11
Oklahoma - 14.23
South Carolina - 15.89
Arkansas - 16.23
Utah - 16.53
Delaware - 16.81
Maryland/D.C. - 19.33
Virginia - 21.29
Tennessee - 21.29
Kansas - 23.52
Arizona - 24.68
California - 25.35
New Mexico - 25.93
Illinois - 28.78
Michigan - 29.79
Pennsylvania - 30.35
Indiana - 32.62
Colorado - 34.44
Kentucky - 34.94
Washington - 42.56
New York - 47.61
Oregon - 50.12
Missouri - 50.33
Iowa - 53.47
Idaho - 63.03
Minnesota - 76.62
Massachusetts - 81.70
Connecticut - 96.20
South Dakota - 125.54
Alaska - 133.93
Montana - 148.36
Nebraska - 170.03
Maine - 202.08
West Virginia - 293.34
North Dakota - 1432.39

Because this is per scholarship, I would expect these numbers to be a lot more unstable from year to year. That said, outside of Nevada (13) and Wisconsin (22) the top 10 have at least 40 each, so I wouldn't expect huge fluctuations.

[Stry]

So... don't be born in North Dakota and the abolishon of slavery ruined the genetic line for the 'perfect' football player?

I think that's what I've gotten out of this so far.

[Keller]

So... don't be born in North Dakota and the abolishon of slavery ruined the genetic line for the 'perfect' football player?

I think that's what I've gotten out of this so far.

That would be wrong. Peyton Manning lives.