Stealing from an old lady

[AnticorRifling]

So my cousin, who's in the military, comes home on leave and asks my gramdma to help him out in buying a car. He tells her if she pays for it all he'll make payments to her. She being 82, trusting, and thinking he's family (never mind he's a piece of shit...but of course his father was a piece of shit so he was behind from the start) agrees. Verbal agreement. She liquidates what meager savings she has, they both go and sign on the car and title it in his name.

Fast forward not cent one has been given to my grandma, we're buying her meds and food, and she's actually been very sick as of late so she's been in the hospital. Contact this shit bird and he's like oh I put money in her account my mom must have stolen it... I've got the paper work showing zero activity in or out of this account since it was created for him to put money in to pay back my grandma. I've contacted his command and they want to burn him because he's got a history of being a shit bird, unfortunately there's no proof of a loan, just that verbal agreement.

What can I do?


Well besides the fact he's coming home on leave on Saturday and I'm going to go talk to him. I do know if my brother gets a hold of the kid he's probably going to have a s-s-s-studdur for the rest of his life. More than anything I want the money my grandma is owed given back to her.

The car isn't insured, it's not plated, it's sitting in his sister's garage I'd love for some costly accidents to happen to it but I'd rather it get sold and the money go to my grandma.

I've never liked this kid, I don't like shit birds and I really don't like them being part of my family.

[Showal]

Tell your brother.

[Showal]

What I would do is make him sell the thing. Tell him you'll do the work of putting it on craigslist or something so all he has to do is sign over the car. I hate shitty family members.

[AnticorRifling]

He's now denying a loan ever even happened. I have a short list of things that are worth spending some time in jail for, grandma is on that list. I think the brother and I will be making a house call while he's on leave.

[Showal]

He's now denying a loan ever even happened. I have a short list of things that are worth spending some time in jail for, grandma is on that list. I think the brother and I will be making a house call while he's on leave.

Wrap a wiffle ball bat up in sandpaper and have a nail sticking out the end. Tell him that either the car's getting sold or the bat's going in ... and the car's still being sold.

[Showal]

I did some research:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081103123251AAXZjc6

The best answer I saw was:



take a dump in a plastic bag and semar it alloevr there door knob and car windows

[WRoss]

I am not sure with Indiana law, but any crime involving the elderly is very serious. Not sure on the amount of money involved here, but I'd wager it is a class X felony. I'm sure some newer ADA would love to put this guy away. What you'll need is paperwork showing where the money for the car came from. Not a receipt, but her bank statement. Next get a video confession from you grandmother. This case could take a while and if she is sick... If the ADA gets on it, I bet JAG will jump in. Hope this helps

[Showal]

I am not sure with Indiana law, but any crime involving the elderly is very serious. Not sure on the amount of money involved here, but I'd wager it is a class X felony. I'm sure some newer ADA would love to put this guy away. What you'll need is paperwork showing where the money for the car came from. Not a receipt, but her bank statement. Next get a video confession from you grandmother. This case could take a while and if she is sick... If the ADA gets on it, I bet JAG will jump in. Hope this helps

While this is the more reasonable solution, I think the wiffle ball bat idea or the dump in a bag idea are a good backup.

[AnticorRifling]

I am not sure with Indiana law, but any crime involving the elderly is very serious. Not sure on the amount of money involved here, but I'd wager it is a class X felony. I'm sure some newer ADA would love to put this guy away. What you'll need is paperwork showing where the money for the car came from. Not a receipt, but her bank statement. Next get a video confession from you grandmother. This case could take a while and if she is sick... If the ADA gets on it, I bet JAG will jump in. Hope this helps

I told his CO that my grandma wants to go to the media (career killer for the CO) so he's on board with getting this handled. The problem is no proof showing there was ever a loan just a he said she said. Video confession is probably stronger than a written confession that's a good idea. I've got paperwork showing where the money came from and I can account for it all down to the penny.

[4a6c1]

That is ridiculously pathetic. Poor old lady. Broken jaw warranted.

[AnticorRifling]

We did tell his command that he'll probably come back broken. They said good he's a piece of shit. It made me all warm inside.

[Androidpk]

What a scumbag. I hope he's not in the AF. I'm not one to advocate violence but this situation calls for it, this guy needs to be put on a liquid diet for awhile.

[AnticorRifling]

He's not a zoomie. Since I'm not saying what branch, and it's near and dear to my heart, you can probably guess which one. I will make sure the fucker never associates himself with it though.

I like the going to the ADA idea, burn him with a felony, roll it over to the military court and proper fuck him there. Bleed his pockets, then when I get a chance, bleed his face.

[Showal]

Telling his CO was a good first step.

[LMingrone]

Lawyer up, delete his facebook, hit the gym.

Kidding aside I would talk to his CO, seems you already did that though. Any other advice I would have is illegal.

[Warriorbird]

Given that he's military there are already some holds over him that don't exist over a civilian. You did a good first step. People also HATE elder abuse.

[Showal]

You did a good first step.

The next step involves dumping in a plastic bag.

[AnticorRifling]

Like I said because the loan was a verbal agreement only I need some proof (IE the video statement good call) or at least something to refute him saying "I don't know about any loan" which is what he's doing now.

[Warriorbird]

Like I said because the loan was a verbal agreement only I need some proof (IE the video statement good call) or at least something to refute him saying "I don't know about any loan" which is what he's doing now.

How did she transfer the money?

[AnticorRifling]

They went in together and she bought the car, titled in his name.

Both names are on the purchase agreement though. It's the expectation of being paid back that's the issue.

[Parkbandit]

Let him know he has 3 options:

1) He does the right thing and gets Grandma the money that is due to her.. and you forget this ever happened.

2) He denies the money was a loan and you go to the police/media/AARP/etc... let him know that it will end his military career.

3) He denies the money was a loan and you beat the ever loving mother fucking shit out of him.

Personally, sounds like this prick needs #3.

[LMingrone]

Is it under the amount that you (or grandma) could take it to small claims? Judges HATE little bitches that take advantage of the elderly. Plus you won't have to deal with lawyers.

[AnticorRifling]

it's over 14,000

And PB combine options 2 and 3.

[Delias]

Make no threats.... just kick his ass where there are no witnesses, or only witnesses who will be on your side. Repeat as necessary until money arrives.

[Androidpk]

Like I said because the loan was a verbal agreement only I need some proof (IE the video statement good call) or at least something to refute him saying "I don't know about any loan" which is what he's doing now.

1. Beat a confession out of him
2. ???
3. Profit

[Parkbandit]

it's over 14,000

And PB combine options 2 and 3.

Let the legal system deal with him imo. It's not worth it, given your boys would probably have to group up without a father.

Of course.... there is always self defense. I am sure you could irritate him enough into doing something really, really stupid.. like taking the first swing at you. That's what I would do... just saying.

[LMingrone]

What about just taking the car? Let him try to take legal action to get it back. Of course this is after you beat the fuck out of him.

[WRoss]

buy gram of cocaine, put cocaine in car (put it in three bags to make it a distribution charge), call police, police seize car, granny comes to police station with payment receipt and explains that she needs car to get around, pay 500, have car, sell car, granny gets some money

In all seriousness, I would highly recommend not doing that. Again, not sure on Indiana law, but 14,000 and her being elderly would make for one hell of a case. I really like what PB said about notifying the AARP. They would definitely help you out. I'm going to call the lawyer who dealt with the nurse that stole money from my grandmother and see if he has any advice.

[AnticorRifling]

PB just mentioned the AARP because he has them on speed dial.

[NocturnalRob]

Does he have the money with which to actually pay her? Why not just make him pay the money? And break his jaw.

[NocturnalRob]

PB just mentioned the AARP because he has them on speed dial.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OMjG6V_tLRM/R6EEtAuOKzI/AAAAAAAAAJA/duOsKuQU78o/s400/Picture+3.png

[AnticorRifling]

No idea what his finances are and I really don't care. Being in the military he gets paid the 1st and 15th of every month. I'm working to have it taken out of his pay before he can get his hands on it.

[NocturnalRob]

No idea what his finances are and I really don't care. Being in the military he gets paid the 1st and 15th of every month. I'm working to have it taken out of his pay before he can get his hands on it.
Can his CO help with that? Based on what you've said thus far, I'm sure he's looking to keep this entire thing out of the press.

[WRoss]

Three Elements of a Verbal Contract

In order to be considered valid, a verbal contract must contain three elements: offer, acceptance, and consideration.

• Offer: The person making the offer in a verbal contract must communicate their intent to enter into a contract. A verbal contract is not considered valid if all parties do not agree to the terms of the offer. Also, verbal contracts are only valid for a specified period of time and not indefinitely.

• Acceptance: A verbal contract is not valid until the offer is accepted. The acceptance of a verbal contract occurs when the person to whom the contract is offered voluntarily indicates agreement to its terms and conditions.

• Consideration: In addition to an offer and acceptance, verbal contracts must contain consideration. This means that each side must give the other something of value for the agreement to be binding. In most verbal contracts, this is an exchange of money, such as a down payment. However, in some cases, it is not money but a promise that is exchanged.

From what you said, it sounds like a legal verbal contract took place. Proving the contract is a different situation. You'd likely need a record (I'm unsure what is legally admissible) of him admitting that he willfully took money with the promise of payment. Maybe talk to the dealership where it was bought and see if they recall any such admission.

Her being elderly does grant her a lot more protections than an average citizens. AARP and ADA would probably be your best bet now. I'm sure if the ADA contacted him and even started talking about felonies he'd change his tune.

[NocturnalRob]

I mean, when it comes down to it, wouldn't he have to explain how he got the money in the first place? It sounds like he's a total dickcheese, and possibly retarded, so I would imagine that would be a stumbling block for him.

[AnticorRifling]

Can his CO help with that? Based on what you've said thus far, I'm sure he's looking to keep this entire thing out of the press.

Once I can get the proof of the verbal loan thing nailed down the CO will do the rest. He's on our side for sure.

[LMingrone]

Know what? Screw all of this. Threaten him that you're going to put this story along with his name and photo on /b/. I'm sure that will fix his ass.

[WRoss]

You never know with /b/. That might be an invite to have granny sex.

[LMingrone]

Nothing wrong with that. Maybe granny could use a little knockknock along with her cash back.

[Cephalopod]

Know what? Screw all of this. Threaten him that you're going to put this story along with his name and photo on /b/. I'm sure that will fix his ass.

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/068/555/original/1241234896230.jpg

[Liagala]

You may not have a piece of paper that says, "I entered into a verbal agreement with my grandmother to pay her back $14,000 for my car" but you do have enough proof of it to fly. You have proof of her liquidating her savings. You have proof of her signing paperwork for the car that was put in his name. You have proof of her opening a new bank account with both her name and his on it. You have proof of 0 activity in that account since it was opened (this is the kicker. She's obviously not using it, so it must be intended for him in some way. Given the timing of its creation, it's pretty clear what the intended use was). You have him saying all this is crap, and at least 3 of you that you've mentioned saying it isn't. You likely have proof of past shady activities on his part. You said he's always been a shit bag. He must have done something in his lifetime that a) is not good, and b) left a paper trail. Dig it up.

Go lay all that out in front of his CO, hardcopy. Spread it out on the desk, all imposing-like. If that isn't enough to get the attention of JAG, call AARP and get their help with a lawyer on this side. You run the risk of media attention with the AARP thing, but if you dump all of that on the CO and he's still not helping you, then he's not going to.

Edit: Make sure someone in his unit with a big mouth and a granny he loves is around when you bring all this stuff in to the CO. It may not be as satisfying as beating his sorry ass yourself, but the job will be done just as effectively, and you get to watch your boys grow up from home, instead of a cell.

[AnticorRifling]

The paperwork has been mailed to them for review.

As far as a paper trail of him being a shit bird, that's easy. His SRB will have it.

I dont' care if the media is involved, it's not my career, it's the CO's. As political as the upper ranks are a black eye in the media is a promotion killer.

[Liagala]

The paperwork has been mailed to them for review.
Mailed for review isn't as effective as placed on his desk by hand, with you standing there. If you had to take a couple days off and travel to do it, so much the better. It's too easy for him to glance through a few pages, decide it's not worth the hassle, and put it aside. With you standing there, you can pull out one piece of proof at a time, and drop them in different places on the desk as you tell the story. By the time you're done, his entire desk is covered with what a shitbag this guy is. It makes a difference.

Of course, all that might not be necessary. I'm going on a worst-case, where the CO says he wants to help, but is really just feeding you what you want to hear. It's entirely possible (and likely) that the CO means what he says, and will act on the mailed paperwork himself. I'd still look into finding a guy in his unit with a big mouth and a favorite granny, though.

[AnticorRifling]

Mailed for review isn't as effective as placed on his desk by hand, with you standing there. If you had to take a couple days off and travel to do it, so much the better. It's too easy for him to glance through a few pages, decide it's not worth the hassle, and put it aside. With you standing there, you can pull out one piece of proof at a time, and drop them in different places on the desk as you tell the story. By the time you're done, his entire desk is covered with what a shitbag this guy is. It makes a difference.

Of course, all that might not be necessary. I'm going on a worst-case, where the CO says he wants to help, but is really just feeding you what you want to hear. It's entirely possible (and likely) that the CO means what he says, and will act on the mailed paperwork himself. I'd still look into finding a guy in his unit with a big mouth and a favorite granny, though.

Sure let me go from Indiana to Cali, get on base, get a meeting with the CO and place papers on his desk...

You don't drop anything on a Colonel's desk. You don't waste time trying to be pretty and pull out one piece of paper at a time...

It doesn't work that way. I'm not worried about the CO, he'll handle it as best he can to protect his own career.

[WRoss]

He's a Colonel and a CO? WTF does your cousin do?

[AnticorRifling]

My cousin is a bullet sponge, his commanding officer is a Colonel.

[AnticorRifling]

Ok talked to my dad he's going to get a statement from my grandma about the verbal loan agreement. Add that to my fact finding paperwork including transaction history (or complete lack) on the joint account set up for payback, the signatures on the vehicle paperwork, etc. should make for a fun packet of pwn.

[Androidpk]

How would this effect the COs career?

[Latrinsorm]

It is probably not a good idea to resort to violence with multiple public records of you saying you're going to do so. You should have just said you were going to beef wellington his jaw, then you would have had 100% plausible deniability.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

How long ago did your G-ma loan the duckets to el-douche? How'd you get involved anyway?

[Ryvicke]

It doesn't work that way. I'm not worried about the CO, he'll handle it as best he can to protect his own career.

Maybe I'm not understanding the ARMY COAD but why would any of this ruin the CO's career? Does he really take shit if one of his peons screws his own grandma out of a car loan and then someone tells the news?

[AnticorRifling]

How would this effect the COs career?

If I was to go to the local "Call XYZ station for help because we care (about ratings)" and explain that my grandmother had be swindled by a Marine and we'd contacted the Marine Corps and spoken to his Commanding Officer (insert name here) and so far we've seen no resolution even after providing the facts. All we want is for her to get her money back and they've got the means to do so but aren't willing to act. etc....yeah it would damage his career for a PR side of things. And like I said once you hit that upper eschelon of rank it's all political, a black eye like that is damning when there are only 100 one star spots open and 1000 full birds going for it.

[AnticorRifling]

Maybe I'm not understanding the ARMY COAD but why would any of this ruin the CO's career? Does he really take shit if one of his peons screws his own grandma out of a car loan and then someone tells the news?

Yes, yes he does. See above.

When you've got to find reasons to not promote someone something as simple as "was aware of situation did not resolve properly" can be damning.

[EasternBrand]

What about just taking the car? Let him try to take legal action to get it back. Of course this is after you beat the fuck out of him.

Don't do this. I mean, either of these. I mean, at least not if they're at all traceable back to you. That's just common sense.

[NocturnalRob]

I don't think AR would ever actually do this without exhausting all other options. It sounds like he's taking the right approach. Also, I would imagine this kid has been totally excised from the family?

[AnticorRifling]

Yeah even his mother doesn't want to deal with him.

[Tisket]

I have not read the whole thread so forgive me if it's been suggested already...but why not take him to small claims court? You only need to be more convincing than him and, if you win, you have the paperwork necessary to have his paycheck garnished. If you can get your Grandmother into testify that is. You don't need an attorney so the only cost would be the filing cost.

edit: as I understand it, if he fails to appear then judgement is automatic, unless he's deployed that is. You'd have to check into that.

[TheEschaton]

An ADA could easily subpoena his finances and show that he didn't take out a loan from a bank ont he car, he didn't write a check for it, didn't withdraw cash (10k+ amounts require federal paperwork), and so on, and so forth. And on the other hand, they can show your grandma liquidating her savings, etc, and co-signing on the purchase agreement.

Even without his confession, the above plus her testimony is more than enough for "beyond reasonable doubt."

[Sean]

An ADA could easily subpoena his finances and show that he didn't take out a loan from a bank ont he car, he didn't write a check for it, didn't withdraw cash (10k+ amounts require federal paperwork), and so on, and so forth. And on the other hand, they can show your grandma liquidating her savings, etc, and co-signing on the purchase agreement.

Even without his confession, the above plus her testimony is more than enough for "beyond reasonable doubt."

But isn't the question whether he ever agreed to pay her back, not did she pay for the car?

[Drew]

Magna Carta his ass.

[TheEschaton]

Only one person has to testify to the verbal contract. There was once a case about a contract where the seller later said it was a joke, he didn't mean to sell, but the buyer's interpretation of his intent to sell was what was binding.

So, if grandma testifies that he told her he would pay her back, and that's the only reason she gave him the 14k, that's enough to prove there was a verbal contract. Whether he intended to pay her back or not in reality is irrelevant. Now, such testimony isn't really actionable without the paperwork mentioned above, that supports her testimony, especially the joint bank account she opened which has seen no activity.

Also, at this point, Wayne can testify to the fact that the kid lied to him and said he deposited money to that account, and that "his mother must have stolen it." Lying is never good, especially if it's lying to purport that he fulfilled his end of a contract.

[TheEschaton]

P.S. Marine Corps vet in full uniform on the stand saying the kid told him X, which wasn't true - no jury will ever find the kid innocent. Any ADA will gobble this shit up.

[g++]

What if one party in said verbal contract was an autistic child with valuable property and the other party in the contract was paid to look after the childs well being but instead decided to take the childs property? Would that void a verbal contract?

[TheEschaton]

I hate you.

[EasternBrand]

Even without his confession, the above plus her testimony is more than enough for "beyond reasonable doubt."


There was once a case about a contract where the seller later said it was a joke, he didn't mean to sell, but the buyer's interpretation of his intent to sell was what was binding.

Sounds like someone's confusing burdens of persuasion...

[EasternBrand]

What if one party in said verbal contract was an autistic child with valuable property and the other party in the contract was paid to look after the childs well being but instead decided to take the childs property? Would that void a verbal contract?

No.

On-topic: what kind of power does the CO have in this situation? This is a private transaction and dispute not directly involving the military. I understand the desire to involve him, but is there anything he can actually do?

[AnticorRifling]

No.

On-topic: what kind of power does the CO have in this situation? This is a private transaction and dispute not directly involving the military. I understand the desire to involve him, but is there anything he can actually do?

He can NJP the kid, garnish his wages to repay the debt, confine him to quarters, reduce his rank, etc. if he finds reason to believe the Marine did wrong.

Any dispute involving a Marine involves the Marines. Private transactions don't exist.

[Liagala]

What if one party in said verbal contract was an autistic child with valuable property and the other party in the contract was paid to look after the childs well being but instead decided to take the childs property? Would that void a verbal contract?
Only if it occurred after the discovery that burlap is actually a kind of leather.

[TheEschaton]

Sounds like someone's confusing burdens of persuasion...

The contract case weighing buyer's interpretation of intent, plus consideration, was just enough to establish a contract was made.

The testimony of Wayne's grandmother in addition to the bank statements/other financials is enough to prove a contract was broken after it was made.

Edit: and yes, the former was a civil case, as would this one, so the burden would be on preponderance of the evidence. However, elder abuse is often a felony, whether committed through financial tort or actual violence. Don't know Indiana's law on elder abuse though.

-TheE-

[Androidpk]

Pressing charges is so lame though, give him a blood eagle!

[AnticorRifling]

HAHA damnit Alok I was making a post to say wow this is the longest thread I've seen about a legal matter where you haven't used the word tort.

You and your edits.

[TheEschaton]

Torts are delicious.

[LMingrone]

/b/

[pabstblueribbon]

Options:

Inception

Send him pictures of your grandma daily. Sad pictures.

Subliminally insert suggestions of guilt and cosmic karmic punishments inflicted on the morally corrupt.

Nightly surprise visits involving tube-socks and bars of soap.

Or, find out what legal channels you need to go through to legally repossess the car, repossess it, and go from there.

[LMingrone]

/b/

[Gan]

He's now denying a loan ever even happened. I have a short list of things that are worth spending some time in jail for, grandma is on that list. I think the brother and I will be making a house call while he's on leave.

If you don't come back with bloody knuckles and an additional car, I'll be disappointed.

[LMingrone]

/b/

[g++]

If you don't come back with bloody knuckles and an additional car, I'll be disappointed.

I thought he was going to confront his cousin not go on a blind date.

[Gan]

:lol:

[AnticorRifling]

I thought he was going to confront his cousin not go on a blind date.

If this was Kentucky it'd be the same thing.

[LMingrone]

01-19-2011 05:01 PM stfu

Sign your rep puss.

[Nieninque]

It is probably not a good idea to resort to violence with multiple public records of you saying you're going to do so. You should have just said you were going to beef wellington his jaw, then you would have had 100% plausible deniability.

Except beef wellington was his code for the word "gay" and they dont kick them out for that any more.

[LMingrone]

Not that I care, but sign your rep puss.
01-19-2011 08:44 PM No seriously, stfu

[Gan]

Except beef wellington was his code for the word "gay" and they dont kick them out for that any more.
Exactly, then it could go Federal as a hate crime...

[Stanley Burrell]

I was thinking what if someone did this to my grandmother: I'd be filled with neanderthal rage. And I would not step lightly. Which could come back to bite me/others.

Go about it with a flat affect like you're the Borg and the equation has already been solved without getting mucked up with emotion.

Resistance has to be futile for this grandma abuser.

[Warriorbird]

I think my grandmother would shoot the guy and then claim elder abuse. Sometimes I'm a little scared of my grandmother.

[Skeeter]

Run over his cat.

[AnticorRifling]

I think my grandmother would shoot the guy and then claim elder abuse. Sometimes I'm a little scared of my grandmother.

If she wasn't recovering from a bout of phenemonia which was made worse by the discovery of lung cancer I think she would, right now she doesn't have the strength to lift a firearm.

Grandma is a Korean War vet she's good people.

[WRoss]

You do realize this is going to be made into a Law and Order episode after you are finished, right?

[Warriorbird]

If she wasn't recovering from a bout of phenemonia which was made worse by the discovery of lung cancer I think she would, right now she doesn't have the strength to lift a firearm.

Grandma is a Korean War vet she's good people.

It's good you're sticking up for her. Any word from local DA's?

[WRoss]

You do realize this is going to be made into a Law and Order episode after you are finished, right?

I hate to quote myself, but seriously, if you needed some funding for the case, I'm sure L&O would provide you a lawyer if they got the rights to make this into a TV show.

[LMingrone]

Shit, I would own this fool in court myself if I lived near ya. IANAL, but I've won six cases so far. My next one that's coming up is against three cops. Those bitches are going to be paying me.

Seriously though, call your bro and tell him if he doesn't turn over the car /b/ will fuck him up.

[AnticorRifling]

I've contacted/left messages with both the sheriff's office and prosecutor's office waiting on response from them.

[Asha]

Confront him with a mini recorder in your shirt and get him to confess or say something implicating him like '' hahahah you can't prove anything '' then hold up the recorder and say '' I already have my friend.. I already have ''.
Then in court say something smart like, '' He thought he could steal a car... well now he's taking a car .. TO JAIL!!''

Then you, your brother, your nan and the judge all laugh at the same time which freeze frames at that exact moment.

Thats what you should do.

[Showal]

Confront him with a mini recorder in your shirt and get him to confess or say something implicating him like '' hahahah you can't prove anything '' then hold up the recorder and say '' I already have my friend.. I already have ''.
Then in court say something smart like, '' He thought he could steal a car... well now he's taking a car .. TO JAIL!!''

Then you, your brother, your nan and the judge all laugh at the same time which freeze frames at that exact moment.

Thats what you should do.

It should end with them all doing a jumping high five!

http://www.jumpphotoz.com/uploaded_images/2603_1114506945462_1310604318_335791_6430954_n-788983.jpg

If Drayal tried the mini-recorder thing, all that would be on the tape is "Come on man, why do you have a ripped t-shirt sleeve around your wrist? You've been doing that since you were a little kid. Cut it out."

[Asha]

I WOULD SHUT HIM DOWN!
F.

[WRoss]

Confront him with a mini recorder in your shirt and get him to confess or say something implicating him like '' hahahah you can't prove anything '' then hold up the recorder and say '' I already have my friend.. I already have ''.
Then in court say something smart like, '' He thought he could steal a car... well now he's taking a car .. TO JAIL!!''

Then you, your brother, your nan and the judge all laugh at the same time which freeze frames at that exact moment.

Thats what you should do.

That wouldn't be admissible in court.

[Warriorbird]

That wouldn't be admissible in court.

http://www.cultofmac.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/phoenix-wright-objection.jpg

[Hips]

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http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=4688535

[Warriorbird]

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=4688535

If it were really like Phoenix Wright I might actually be practicing.

[AnticorRifling]

Prosecutor's office got back with me and has given me some direction. I've got to have my grandma and dad follow up but it looks like some action will take place.

[Warriorbird]

Prosecutor's office got back with me and has given me some direction. I've got to have my grandma and dad follow up but it looks like some action will take place.

Excellent. It makes me happy when the authorities do right.