Prayers please

[Gnome Rage]

I'm sure not many of you care about the dealings of my life, but some of you are religious and I would like to ask you all for prayers.

We got preliminary results from my boyfriend's MRI, there is a handy summary at the bottom listing what they believe it could be. All three options they list are a cancer of one sort or the other. We're going to the neurosurgeon tomorrow. As it stands, they said that due to the placement it may be more dangerous to operate than to leave it be or may not be operable at all.

I just ask that those of you who pray will keep him in your thoughts and hope for the best news. Thanks guys.

[Sharnath]

You are both in my prayers.

Sharnath

[Asha]

What's his name? I'll say a little something for him before I hit the hay in a minute or so. x

[Back]

I just burned my couch.

[Gnome Rage]

His name is Matt.

Thank you both.

[B4Hand]

Prayers going up for you and your boyfriend and family.


Merji's Muse
K

[Asha]

Gotcha.

[Rucca]

He'll be in my thoughts. I'm here if you need someone to talk to as well. :)

[Gnome Rage]

Thank you all. :)

[Sharnath]

I've been helping my mother through her terminal diagnosis for the last six years.. It's an up and down thing. Send a thought if you need some encouragement or an anonymous shoulder. Terminal doesn't always mean today.

Sharnath
Weed Mage

[Warriorbird]

I hope he's okay. Nothing anybody should have to go through.

[Drisco]

I was really close with my Grandmother and Aunt who both passed from Brain Cancer. I remember the long nights of researching on the internet for all possible treatments and to understand what was happening.

If I was religious I would pray for you, but instead you both will be in my thoughts. I'll be rootin for ya, hope it all works out.

[Gnome Rage]

My mother also passed from bone/brain/breast cancer and they're thinking its in the bone near the brain which is high stress for me. So I'm trying to avoid researching things because it only further terrifies me.

Anyways, thank you very much.

[Ryvicke]

I know he couldn't be with someone right now that cares about him more than you. I'm hoping for the best for you guys.

[Wyrmx]

Hope everything works out ok, no fun to go through that for sure

[4a6c1]

Damn. Brain cancer. That's crap. I hope it's benign.

[phantasm]

He will survive. Enjoy every day like it was going to be the last anyway.

[Archigeek]

I know someone who's had brain cancer surgery twice. I'll spare you the details, but suffice it to say that the technology is greatly improved. Her second surgery was entirely laser with no partial skull removal required. This was at the Mayo.

[Gnome Rage]

im not sure we have the money for the mayo clinic but i havent done much research

[Killer Kitten]

I'll think good thoughts for both of you, and ask my mom to include you in her prayers. She's 85 and has been cancer free for a couple years now and she said it was her prayers, so hopefully she has some pull up there.

[mgoddess]

More than willing to keep you both in my prayers. My husband's five year's cancer-free nearly to the day, so I know at least partially what it's like.

[Gnome Rage]

thank you much. :)

Quick update for those who care. They think they know what it is (chordoma) but they have to do a metastatic body scan and then biopsy to be sure, scan is Monday and the biopsy is the 13th.

It is a tumor in the top few vertebrae and into the sinus cavity, apparently his sinus' are large so it isn't causing problems there, however it is a destructive tumor in the bone and it is replacing the bone with itself.

If there is removal then they'll have to reconstruct, they suspect it is very slow growing and may have been there for a while. Unfortunately, the radiation that follows any possible surgery for this specific thing is only given in two places in the country, Boston and somewhere in Texas, but the doctor isn't even sure the one in Boston is still doing this proton carbon ion radiation (or something like that?!) so... we may be traveling to Texas.

While none of this news is really positive, the doctor did seem positive about the possibility of removal and radiation so all we can do is hope. Anyways, please keep on praying and I thank you all for your support. :)

[4a6c1]

Houston probably. The cancer research here is pretty cutting edge (bad pun, sorry).

[Gnome Rage]

It is in Houston. I just looked it up on the Chordoma Foundation website. The one is MA is still there and they've performed the most surgeries world wide. So that is a bit of good news amongst this all.

[Gan]

MD Anderson Cancer Center here in Houston. Top Notch.

Make sure you get with patient services so they can recommend lodging (at a discount) as well as transportation to and from the hospital from your hotel. Avoid parking since the daily rate is $10.00 per day, if you can. That's what hotel shuttles are good for.

If you need anything I"m sure Rojo or I could hook you up since we're natives.

Thoughts and prayers are with you and Matt and family.

[4a6c1]

If you need anything I"m sure Rojo or I could hook you up since we're natives.



DID YOU JUST VOLUNTEER ME FOR STUFF.

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No, it's true. Give us a holler.

I will hook you up to stuff. With stuff! I ment with stuff.

[Showal]

I'm sure I have made it seem like I'm pretty intolerant of you with your earlier attention whoring ways, but I live pretty close to the boston clinics. If he needs a place to stay and slash or a ride in to the city, I owe it to my own cancer research to offer it up. Seriously. PM me and let me know. You will see I'm actually a decent guy, so I will offer this up as it is needed or when it is needed. Fuck, I go by those places on a daily basis, so it is the least I can do.

[Stanley Burrell]

If you need to get to Bradley with larger vehicle capacity, I can haul ass.

Edit: Also know much larger ass-hauling capacity limo services that owe me a few favors if need be.

[Gnome Rage]

you're all very kind and if we need anything I'll get in touch. right now we're just waitin for the new years to bring some magic.

[Gnome Rage]

Short update for anyone who wants to read it.

They want to do the surgery through his nasal passages, there are some risks that come along with it such as fluid leaking (brain fluid I think) but less risky than drilling into his skull. They already want to schedule a surgery date but we're trying to get a second opinion first. Time is of the essence so we do want to get him in there soon but we want to make sure we have the right people rooting around his head.

Another MRI and doctors appointments on Monday. Hopefully an appointment will be made at Mass General soon after and then we can keep it moving, get this tumor out of his head and work on radiation therapy.

[SuckerFish]

thank you much. :)

Quick update for those who care. They think they know what it is (chordoma) but they have to do a metastatic body scan and then biopsy to be sure, scan is Monday and the biopsy is the 13th.

It is a tumor in the top few vertebrae and into the sinus cavity, apparently his sinus' are large so it isn't causing problems there, however it is a destructive tumor in the bone and it is replacing the bone with itself.

If there is removal then they'll have to reconstruct, they suspect it is very slow growing and may have been there for a while. Unfortunately, the radiation that follows any possible surgery for this specific thing is only given in two places in the country, Boston and somewhere in Texas, but the doctor isn't even sure the one in Boston is still doing this proton carbon ion radiation (or something like that?!) so... we may be traveling to Texas.

While none of this news is really positive, the doctor did seem positive about the possibility of removal and radiation so all we can do is hope. Anyways, please keep on praying and I thank you all for your support. :)

I know this sounds crazy but there is a man out there who narrowed out what causes most tumors to grow and appear in the body and he says that there have been many people who have cured their cancers with two methods used together at the same time.

1. A juicer - and drinking pure vegetable and fruit juices for a long period of time including going on a nothing but juice fast for a certain period of time. Possibly a week here and then off for a bit (all the while eating healthy foods and such) and then back on the fast for a bit.

2. This one, the second one, might surprise you at first, but according to a very prominent and well known doctor, there is nothing better than sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) for destroying tumors in the body. I listened to this on the radio awhile back from a certain doctor who was doing this with a few of his patients and he said he had GREAT success with it. However he also recommended that people not administer the baking soda themselves (although one of his patients did with success), but they allow him and his assistants to do so in a professional and safer manner. But from what I understand the professional doctor who says he has successfully treated some of his patients with this method claims that it has worked in nearly every case that it has been tried. Also in two of his patients he said they were both told they were going to die from other doctors before trying his treatment and destroying their tumors (it was on the radio a few months ago) says that there is something inside of the baking soda itself (which has a different scientific name which is sodium bicarbonate), that causes the tumor tissue to start breaking apart and to be released from the body. Now the actual dosage for his type of tumor and the progression of it and such might be a specific amount (that's why the doctor asks people to go through him and not do it on their own) so my advice would be to do some studying on the subject. Of course, time is everything at the moment, so hopefully you will at least look into it.

Now I should also mention that the doctor said that there was one of his patients who ingested the baking soda and had success that way, although the doctor STRONGLY recommends that anyone who tries out his method do it through him and or one of his assistants. Because they have their own method for administering the sodium bicarbonate into the bloodstream and also they would know the exact amount needed for his condition. So I would go ahead and contact the doctor if I was you. I believe it is the man from the first link. In fact I just checked on it and it is indeed the man. Send him an email or one of his associates about your husbands condition and see what they write back. Or call them, whichever. Can't hurt to look into it right? The doctors name is Italian oncologist, Dr. Tullio Simoncini.

Here are a few links:

http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/

http://www.awaken.cc/awaken/pagesE/library/CancerSoda.html

http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/sodium-bicarbonate-treatment.html

Forget about the radiation therapy. The doctor on the radio said that it is a scientific fact that radiation therapy is only like 2.5% effective or something like that for the treatment of tumors because he claims that ALL tumors have a common root cause which can not be treated effectively with radiation therapy. And he claims that this is well known to many in the medical community. In some cases, the radiation therapy can actually do worse to the patient's body than before the patient started the treatment.

By the way, I also said a prayer for him. Pray that the green light of healing go through his body and through his head and destroy the tumor with the power of God. As of course, nothing is stronger than God. And God answers prayers in many different ways, even if you don't first understand how or when or where.

God Bless.

[SuckerFish]

By the way, Gnome, I have some other great news for you! It appears that currently, as of now, Dr. Simoncini and his co-workers are now working on humanitarian grounds, not charging for their time and effort, because they feel how important it is. Sometimes they have even been able to arrange that patients who do not have the money to pay for treatments are treated without cost.

Hopefully you can get in there on that deal if you don't have much to spare. =) Again here is the website: http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/en/

No need to worry about whether the treatments are safe or not. The doctor claims that they are 100% safe and can be extremely effective when administered by him and his co workers. Not a single person has ever had any major problems related to the treatments from what I have studied.

[NocturnalRob]

SuckerFish, seriously...this is not the thread for your bullshit. Stop.

[SuckerFish]

SuckerFish, seriously...this is not the thread for your bullshit. Stop.

I don't see you offering any better advice Nocturnal. At least I provided links, and actual substance. Now whether she wants to try it or not is up to her, but as I said, no harm can come from contacting the doctor and looking into it. If anything, perhaps she can learn about what exactly it is that causes tumors this way. The actual science behind them I am speaking of. She can also clarify directly with him his claims that radiation therapy is not a very effective treatment for tumors. He claims this himself. Let her ask him why. He is more than willing to give the details.

[SuckerFish]

Not to mention that Dr. Simoncini is an oncologist. And what is an oncologist? Someone who deals with oncology (aka tumor medicine).

Oncology (from the Ancient Greek onkos (ὄγκος), meaning bulk, mass, or tumor, and the suffix -logy (-λογία), meaning "study of") is a branch of medicine that deals with tumors (cancer). A medical professional who practices oncology is an oncologist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oncology

And what is her boyfriend suffering from? Tumors!

[NocturnalRob]

She's not asking for advice, you total and utter dickcheese. She's asking for support. Do you read thread titles or the underlying posts before you start your rants or is the rambling thing just automatic?

And I'm sorry I even have to say this, but Simonici is a total quack. He has never reported any supporting results in any journals of repute. He's also been convicted of manslaughter and swindling in the death of one of his patients. Oh, and his medical license was revoked in 2003. So...great.

Juice and baking soda? If it was ever in doubt how truly stupid you are, you just cemented it for me.

Gnome, I hope everything works out. I truly do.

[IorakeWarhammer]

I have to agree with Rob here. Chill out.

I hope he's ok, GR. If you DO happen to try any outside-the-box remedies, go for Essiac tea. Cheap and can't hurt.. was used on cancer patients in Canada for a time.

[Showal]

Out of curiosity, I thought to myself, "What radio program would SuckerFish be listening to?"

Due to his rants about the Illuminati and conspiracy theories, I figured the answer had to be Coast to Coast AM. This is the radio show for the bat shit crazy people out there.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Tullio+Simoncini+Coast+to+Coast+AM

Coast to Coast appears to be doing an ongoing segment about alternative cancer therapies. The one today involves a guy who developed his theory after watching a horse cure itself of cancer.

This Simoncini lost his license to practice medicine. This means he's no more an oncologist, at this point, than I am. In fact, it more points to the fact that he's less of one than me because at some point he so poorly performed his medical responsibilities that legal actions were taken to prevent him from practicing in the future.

My girlfriend is bringing my St. Bernard to a nursing home today. That means my dog is a medical practicioner. Here's the wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_medical_practitioner . NOTE: Posting the wikipedia page about a topic after you make some absurd claim does not make it true.

I have used sodium bicarbonate on animal cancer patients before. It's a common thing in anesthesia. It's used to counteract acidosis. Used improperly and at the wrong times, it'll cause alkalosis and can lead to both kidney and heart failure. In my experience, animals wake up from anesthesia as cancer patients and continue to be cancer patients despite the sodium bicarb administration. I am not going to waste my time looking for it, but I'm sure there's plenty of literature out there to support my experience.

SuckerFish, I love reading your absurd posts, but I ask that you make a NEW thread every time you come across a serious thread and feel the need to post something that's brewing in your fucking crazy mind.

On topic: Best of luck with his treatments, GR. I'm hoping for the best.

[EasternBrand]

Mass General is, from all accounts, an excellent hospital. It's also quite picturesque. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

[SuckerFish]

She's not asking for advice, you total and utter dickcheese. She's asking for support. Do you read thread titles or the underlying posts before you start your rants or is the rambling thing just automatic?

And I'm sorry I even have to say this, but Simonici is a total quack. He has never reported any supporting results in any journals of repute. He's also been convicted of manslaughter and swindling in the death of one of his patients. Oh, and his medical license was revoked in 2003. So...great.

Juice and baking soda? If it was ever in doubt how truly stupid you are, you just cemented it for me.

Gnome, I hope everything works out. I truly do.

I don't care what you think of me. But I stand by my advice. The medical establishment attacks anyone who figures out the Truth. So it would be no surprise to me if they yanked his license. Cancer is big business in the west. The guy is still practicing his treatments. He was on my areas national radio station 2 months ago giving out his information. He is the real deal. I don't care what you say. Like I said Gnome, can't hurt to contact the man. You're going to get tons of people that tell you don't look into this, and don't look into that, but looking into stuff never hurt anyone.

[SuckerFish]

Out of curiosity, I thought to myself, "What radio program would SuckerFish be listening to?"

Due to his rants about the Illuminati and conspiracy theories, I figured the answer had to be Coast to Coast AM. This is the radio show for the bat shit crazy people out there.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Tullio+Simoncini+Coast+to+Coast+AM

Coast to Coast appears to be doing an ongoing segment about alternative cancer therapies. The one today involves a guy who developed his theory after watching a horse cure itself of cancer.

This Simoncini lost his license to practice medicine. This means he's no more an oncologist, at this point, than I am. In fact, it more points to the fact that he's less of one than me because at some point he so poorly performed his medical responsibilities that legal actions were taken to prevent him from practicing in the future.

My girlfriend is bringing my St. Bernard to a nursing home today. That means my dog is a medical practicioner. Here's the wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_medical_practitioner . NOTE: Posting the wikipedia page about a topic after you make some absurd claim does not make it true.

I have used sodium bicarbonate on animal cancer patients before. It's a common thing in anesthesia. It's used to counteract acidosis. Used improperly and at the wrong times, it'll cause alkalosis and can lead to both kidney and heart failure. In my experience, animals wake up from anesthesia as cancer patients and continue to be cancer patients despite the sodium bicarb administration. I am not going to waste my time looking for it, but I'm sure there's plenty of literature out there to support my experience.

SuckerFish, I love reading your absurd posts, but I ask that you make a NEW thread every time you come across a serious thread and feel the need to post something that's brewing in your fucking crazy mind.

On topic: Best of luck with his treatments, GR. I'm hoping for the best.

Don't talk shit about coast to coast. Some of the shows might be "fun shows", but more truth comes out on that show than just about anywhere else on national radio. That's why it's one of the biggest night time shows if not the biggest single night time show in the World.

As far as you calling me a dickcheeze for trying to help someone, you can go screw yourself.

[Ryvicke]

One time I was listening to Coast to Coast really late at night and I really wanted to fall asleep but I couldn't. And then some guy called in and started screaming about how he capture a dinosaur in a cage--he was was really getting wild about it, you could hear spittle flying. Anyhow, the host guy--always pretty calm and measured--chilled him out and slowly told him to settle down and to take a clear photo of the dinosaur and send it to Coast to Coast. I got out of bed and started feverishly refreshing the C2C website, cause the guy said they were going to put the pic up on the website so we could take a look. Now don't get me wrong, usually I wouldn't care--like if this was a picture of a nephilim or something (ANGELS THAT BUILT THE PYRAMIDS FOR YOU DUMMIES), but dudes, you know I saw Jurassic Park in the theaters like ten or eleven times. I still watch it pretty frequently, it has a good score and I like Jeff Goldblum. Anyway, long story short: the picture was a blurry photo of a plastic T-Rex next to a houseplant in a dog's cage.

So sometimes Coast to Coast can really let you down.

[Showal]

Don't talk shit about coast to coast. Some of the shows might be "fun shows", but more truth comes out on that show than just about anywhere else on national radio. That's why it's one of the biggest night time shows if not the biggest single night time show in the World.

As far as you calling me a dickcheeze for trying to help someone, you can go screw yourself.

Noory is a good and entertaining host. The show is almost entirely a "fun show". I never called you a 'dickcheeze', I simply said your posts are absurd and this serious thread is not the most appropriate thread for you to be hawking your theories and alternative cures.

I do suggest, however, that you take 3 teaspoons of sodium bicarbonate mixed with an equal amount of vinegar every morning before breakfast to prevent yourself from getting cancer. The trick is to do it fast by swallowing all the sodium bicarbonate first and then downing all the vinegar at once. I saw this on the C2C website.

[BriarFox]

Don't talk shit about coast to coast. Some of the shows might be "fun shows", but more truth comes out on that show than just about anywhere else on national radio. That's why it's one of the biggest night time shows if not the biggest single night time show in the World.

As far as you calling me a dickcheeze for trying to help someone, you can go screw yourself.

The world just doesn't understand you, man. You're too good for it. Think about how bad everyone will feel when you're gone. There's really only one thing to do, if you've got the guts for it.

[4a6c1]

The world just doesn't understand you, man. You're too good for it. Think about how bad everyone will feel when you're gone. There's really only one thing to do, if you've got the guts for it.

Please someone never give this man an armed militia.

[SuckerFish]

One time I was listening to Coast to Coast really late at night and I really wanted to fall asleep but I couldn't. And then some guy called in and started screaming about how he capture a dinosaur in a cage--he was was really getting wild about it, you could hear spittle flying. Anyhow, the host guy--always pretty calm and measured--chilled him out and slowly told him to settle down and to take a clear photo of the dinosaur and send it to Coast to Coast. I got out of bed and started feverishly refreshing the C2C website, cause the guy said they were going to put the pic up on the website so we could take a look. Now don't get me wrong, usually I wouldn't care--like if this was a picture of a nephilim or something (ANGELS THAT BUILT THE PYRAMIDS FOR YOU DUMMIES), but dudes, you know I saw Jurassic Park in the theaters like ten or eleven times. I still watch it pretty frequently, it has a good score and I like Jeff Goldblum. Anyway, long story short: the picture was a blurry photo of a plastic T-Rex next to a houseplant in a dog's cage.

So sometimes Coast to Coast can really let you down.

lol. You have your crazy callers on any show. I'm more about the guests than I am about the callers. Although every so often it seems like someone will call in with better information on a given subject than the guest is giving. So you really just never know.

[SuckerFish]

Anyways, here's a thought. Gnome could always write Dr. Simoncini and ask him personally why he had his medical license taken away (is that just in the states or what because the guy is still practicing medicine).......

All I know is that show he did on coast to coast not so long ago was the best medical show I have heard on there so far and I have been an avid listener for some time now.

But why not ask the guy personally what happened? My guess is he would say the same thing I did, which is he started going outside the lines of "traditional medicine" when it comes to cancer in the west, you know, the whole slice it open, cut it out, radiate it, and then repeat step one if all else fails. And so they punished him for it.

[Gnome Rage]

Few people asked how Matt is doing, so I'll just answer it here and make it easy.

The doctors are scheduling surgery for the end of this month or beginning of next. They have two ways of accessing the tumor, through his nasal passage and then down and to the left or they're going to cut his lip and peel it up, push away the cartilage of the nose and go straight through the holes in the skull where his nose is. The second option will probably leave scars and they're going to try the nasal passage first.

Once they finish resection he'll have to be out of work for 2 weeks after being in the hospital for 1 week. Then he has to find an apartment in Boston for 6 weeks of ion radiation therapy. Hopefully that will kill the rest of the cancer and he won't have to have another surgery.

If he's cancer free for five years its likely that it wont come back, but the general frame is ten years of follow up. Unfortunately, if the cancer has eaten the c1 vertebrae he will have to have metal rods inserted and will lose the ability to turn his head from left to right. At this point, they don't think it has done that much damage but there is no way to tell until they're inside.

[Drakefang]

Damn.

I'll add my prayers. Wish you guys the best.

[Rucca]

Few people asked how Matt is doing, so I'll just answer it here and make it easy.

The doctors are scheduling surgery for the end of this month or beginning of next. They have two ways of accessing the tumor, through his nasal passage and then down and to the left or they're going to cut his lip and peel it up, push away the cartilage of the nose and go straight through the holes in the skull where his nose is. The second option will probably leave scars and they're going to try the nasal passage first.

Once they finish resection he'll have to be out of work for 2 weeks after being in the hospital for 1 week. Then he has to find an apartment in Boston for 6 weeks of ion radiation therapy. Hopefully that will kill the rest of the cancer and he won't have to have another surgery.

If he's cancer free for five years its likely that it wont come back, but the general frame is ten years of follow up. Unfortunately, if the cancer has eaten the c1 vertebrae he will have to have metal rods inserted and will lose the ability to turn his head from left to right. At this point, they don't think it has done that much damage but there is no way to tell until they're inside.

This really sounds promising. I will continue keeping him in my thoughts, and hoping that the radiation therapy destroys the cancer.
He's way too young for this nonsense.

[Asha]

This really sounds promising. I will continue keeping him in my thoughts, and hoping that the radiation therapy destroys the cancer.
He's way too young for this nonsense.
My thoughts exactly on all counts.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I'm not religious/the praying type but I'm really, really hoping Matt gets better and this is really it. The human body is an amazing thing and can recover from incredible stresses.

If you ever need anything at all.. support, ear to rant to, shoulder to cry on, you know how to reach me lady.

[LMingrone]

Still have my best wishes going out to Matt. Hope all goes well.

[StarWidget]

My mom went through cancer twice, so I know how it can take its toll on everyone involved. I hope the surgery goes well.

[Gnome Rage]

Hey all, another update.

Surgery is set for Wednesday at 9am. For those of you who do pray, I'm asking you to remember him in your prayers tonight and tomorrow night. We're hoping the resection goes well and then we're onto the radiation phase. Love you all <3

[nub]

A study was funded not too long ago, with 200 people, 100 of them were being prayed for, 100 were not. I forgot what they were diagnosed for, none of the people being prayed for knew whether or not they were being prayed for. As the results came in it showed it was basically even on who recovered and who didn't. It was actually in slight favor for those who weren't prayed for.

Either way, I think your bf would be better off if he wasn't prayed for, actually it wouldn't matter is all I am saying.

[Gnome Rage]

That was a necessary post. I am enlightened.

[B4Hand]

I'll be praying!

:hug2:

[Gnome Rage]

Love you <3

[diethx]

That was a necessary post. I am enlightened.

lol at you implying anyone's post was unnecessary.

[IorakeWarhammer]

A study was funded not too long ago, with 200 people, 100 of them were being prayed for, 100 were not. I forgot what they were diagnosed for, none of the people being prayed for knew whether or not they were being prayed for. As the results came in it showed it was basically even on who recovered and who didn't. It was actually in slight favor for those who weren't prayed for.

Either way, I think your bf would be better off if he wasn't prayed for, actually it wouldn't matter is all I am saying.

maybe the prayers weren't accepted

also, you can't guarantee that Allah is going to answer the prayer in the way you wish

Allah might divert a calamity from you when you ask for something good

Praise be to Allaah.

Imaam Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

“Du’aa’s and ta’awwudhaat [prayers seeking refuge with Allaah] are like a weapon, and a weapon is only as good as the person who is using it; it is not merely the matter of how sharp it is. If the weapon is perfect and free of faults, and the arm of the person using it is strong, and there is nothing stopping him, then he can lay waste the enemy. But if any of these three features is lacking, then the effect will be lacking accordingly.”

http://www.islamicwell.com/iqano5113.htm

edit: i am a truly outrageously hypocritical, down and dirty horrible person

[AnticorRifling]

So basically as a fraud and hypocrit you (IW) are using a rusted butter knife with half a handle got it. Good luck with that.

[IorakeWarhammer]

let he who has not sinned cast the first e-peen strike

[AnticorRifling]

You prove my point with every post.

[IorakeWarhammer]

yes Anticor, I am absolutely the most degenerate, atrociously vulgar, outrageously outlandish being ever to set hoof on planet earth

..but some of my prayers have been answered

does this make me a delusional qur'an-thumping opiate-of-the-masses taking freak, or just a fairly normal american muslim and human being with a twisted sense of humor?

it's the latter I assure you!!

prayer works!!!!! even for people you oh so sanctimoniously ASSUME are going to hell!

[AnticorRifling]

Hyperbole doesn't distract from you being a hypocrit. But don't worry you're due for another "I'm sorry guys I took what you said to heart and I'll try to be better and walk the walk" post.

[IorakeWarhammer]

LMingrone prayed for more trolling and his wish was granted

edit: im jk man.. i think you would only be happy if i didn't post at all.. but you know i've been on pretty good behavior :)

[AnticorRifling]

LMingrone prayed for more trolling and his wish was granted

edit: im jk man.. i think you would only be happy if i didn't post at all.. but you know i've been on pretty good behavior :)

I'd be happy if you weren't an absolute troll. If you can only accomplish that by not posting or by having the ability to post removed so be it. The fact that you think you've been on "pretty good behavior" is either honest ignorance or continued trolling I'm not sure which.

[NocturnalRob]

edit: im jk man.. i think you would only be happy if i didn't post at all.. but you know i've been on pretty good behavior :)
No. You're just a piece of shit that the overwhelming majority of these boards wishes would disappear.

[Asha]

I just can't stand the preaching followed by ''tits or gtfo'' etc.
If you can honestly say that should your relatives, brothers and wife ever read what you've posted, they wouldn't find anything wrong with it and NOT pour boiling water over your head and stone you in the street then you're either completely ignorant, completely insane or fucking stupid.
And no you can't say ''LOL I was just kidding, I don't really mean any of it''.

You're a nutbag troll and you embarass yourself.

[AnticorRifling]

Bro didn't you see his edit he said j/k that makes everything cool.

[Asha]

OH RIGHT!!
Yeah it's all cool then.

[IorakeWarhammer]

http://megadeth.rockmetal.art.pl/pic/metallica_mustaine05.jpg

lil shout out to drayal <3

edit: LOVED the rep i got for this thread

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[Caiylania]

I missed this thread originally and truly hope Matt is doing good and that you are holding up as well.

[Asha]

I missed this thread originally and truly hope Matt is doing good and that you are holding up as well.

This ^
Which is exactly what this thread is about and not IW.

[Gnome Rage]

I missed this thread originally and truly hope Matt is doing good and that you are holding up as well.

Thank you dear. He seems more positive lately. :)

[Drakefang]

I ignored IW. It was the best thing I've ever done here on these boards. I don't know if even the topless thread beats it. That thread is so full of awesome.

GR, I've been praying for your man. I sincerely wish him the best result possible. Sometimes God doesn't give the gift we want but I've been praying for the best for Matt.

[Clove]

I ignored IW. It was the best thing I've ever done here on these boards.It sets you free.

[Krayton]

I've heard this before so I had to find it and share it with you all...
(taken from http://www.all-creatures.org/stories/shipwreck.html)

"Ship Wreck"

A voyaging ship was wrecked during a storm at sea and only two of the men on it were able to swim to a small, desert like island.

The two survivors, not knowing what else to do, agree that they had no other recourse but to pray to God.

However, to find out whose prayer was more powerful, they agreed to divide the territory between them and stay on opposite sides of the island.

The first thing the first man prayed for was food. The next morning, the first man saw a fruit-bearing tree on his side of the land, and he was able to eat its fruit.

The other man's parcel of land remained barren.

After a week, the first man was lonely and he decided to pray for a wife. The next day, another ship was wrecked, and the only survivor was a woman who swam to his side of the land.

On the other side of the island, there was nothing.

Soon the first man prayed for a house, clothes, more food.
The next day, like magic, all of these were given to him.

However, the second man still had nothing.

Finally, the first man prayed for a ship, so that his wife and he could leave the island. In the morning, he found a ship docked at his side of the island.

The first man boarded the ship with his wife and decided to leave the second man on the island. He considered the other man unworthy to receive God's blessings, since none of his prayers had been answered.

As the ship was about to leave, the first man heard a voice from Heaven booming,

'Why are you leaving your companion on the island?'

'My blessings are mine alone, since I was the one who prayed for them,' the first man answered. 'His prayers were all unanswered, and so he does not deserve anything'

'You are mistaken!' the voice rebuked him. 'He had only one prayer, which I answered. If not for that, you would not have
received any of my blessings.'

'Tell me,' the first man asked the voice, 'what did he pray for that I
should owe him anything?'

'He prayed that all your prayers be answered.'

Moral:

For all we know, our blessings are not the fruits of our prayers alone, but those of another praying for us.

[Kid Danger]

Having experienced dealing with my Dad's cancer I can sympathize with your concern. I sincerely pray God grant you and Matt the strength to overcome whatever the future holds.

[Asha]

OSAMAA!!!

[4a6c1]

BIN!!!!





(?)

[Gnome Rage]

He's in surgery now - should get an update around 12. Please keep praying.

[g++]

Best wishes I was in the waiting room 3 weeks ago for my father. I think I would rather be on the table.

[xt3kn1x]

Good luck.

[Gnome Rage]

All went well. He's being closed up right now - We're waiting for a surgeon to come talk to use about the closing and everything, then he's in ICU for a day or two. But they believe they got most if not all of the tumor.

Thank you all. <3

[Parkbandit]

All went well. He's being closed up right now - We're waiting for a surgeon to come talk to use about the closing and everything, then he's in ICU for a day or two. But they believe they got most if not all of the tumor.

Thank you all. <3

Happy it went well. :)

[Cephalopod]

Did you slip an M&M inside him so you can sue later?

Also, good to hear it went without a hitch.

[Kid Danger]

All went well....
:bouncing:

[nub]

A study was funded not too long ago, with 200 people, 100 of them were being prayed for, 100 were not. I forgot what they were diagnosed for, none of the people being prayed for knew whether or not they were being prayed for. As the results came in it showed it was basically even on who recovered and who didn't. It was actually in slight favor for those who weren't prayed for.

Either way, I think your bf would be better off if he wasn't prayed for, actually it wouldn't matter is all I am saying.

Got this from the God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. I left the book at work, so can't quote who did the study. This is for whoever repped the sTFU source it or it didn't happen or something like that.

[Bobmuhthol]

THE GREAT PRAYER EXPERIMENT


An amusing, if rather pathetic, case study in miracles is the Great
Prayer Experiment: does praying for patients help them recover?
Prayers are commonly offered for sick people, both privately and in
formal places of worship. Darwin's cousin Francis Galton was the
first to analyse scientifically whether praying for people is
efficacious. He noted that every Sunday, in churches throughout
Britain, entire congregations prayed publicly for the health of the
royal family. Shouldn't they, therefore, be unusually fit, compared
with the rest of us, who are prayed for only by our nearest and
dearest?* Galton looked into it, and found no statistical difference.
His intention may, in any case, have been satirical, as also when he
prayed over randomized plots of land to see if the plants would
grow any faster (they didn't).
More recently, the physicist Russell Stannard (one of Britain's
three well-known religious scientists, as we shall see) has thrown

his weight behind an initiative, funded by - of course - the
Templeton Foundation, to test experimentally the proposition that
praying for sick patients improves their health.36

Such experiments, if done properly, have to be double blind, and
this standard was strictly observed. The patients were assigned,
strictly at random, to an experimental group (received prayers) or
a control group (received no prayers). Neither the patients, nor
their doctors or caregivers, nor the experimenters were allowed to
know which patients were being prayed for and which patients
were controls. Those who did the experimental praying had to
know the names of the individuals for whom they were praying -
otherwise, in what sense would they be praying for them rather
than for somebody else? But care was taken to tell them only the
first name and initial letter of the surname. Apparently that would
be enough to enable God to pinpoint the right hospital bed.
The very idea of doing such experiments is open to a generous
measure of ridicule, and the project duly received it. As far as I
know, Bob Newhart didn't do a sketch about it, but I can distinctly
hear his voice:
What's that you say, Lord? You can't cure me because I'm
a member of the control group? . . . Oh I see, my aunt's
prayers aren't enough. But Lord, Mr Evans in the nextdoor
bed . . . What was that, Lord? . . . Mr Evans received
a thousand prayers per day? But Lord, Mr Evans doesn't
know a thousand people . . . Oh, they just referred to him
as John E. But Lord, how did you know they didn't mean
John Ellsworthy? . . . Oh right, you used your
omniscience to work out which John E they meant. But
Lord . . .
Valiantly shouldering aside all mockery, the team of researchers
soldiered on, spending $2.4 million of Templeton money under the
leadership of Dr Herbert Benson, a cardiologist at the Mind/Body
Medical Institute near Boston. Dr Benson was earlier quoted in a
Templeton press release as 'believing that evidence for the efficacy
of intercessory prayer in medicinal settings is mounting'.
Reassuringly, then, the research was in good hands, unlikely to be

spoiled by sceptical vibrations. Dr Benson and his team monitored
1,802 patients at six hospitals, all of whom received coronary
bypass surgery. The patients were divided into three groups. Group
1 received prayers and didn't know it. Group 2 (the control group)
received no prayers and didn't know it. Group 3 received prayers
and did know it. The comparison between Groups 1 and 2 tests for
the efficacy of intercessory prayer. Group 3 tests for possible
psychosomatic effects of knowing that one is being prayed for.
Prayers were delivered by the congregations of three churches,
one in Minnesota, one in Massachusetts and one in Missouri, all
distant from the three hospitals. The praying individuals, as
explained, were given only the first name and initial letter of the
surname of each patient for whom they were to pray. It is good
experimental practice to standardize as far as possible, and they
were all, accordingly, told to include in their prayers the phrase
'for a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no
complications'.
The results, reported in the American Heart Journal of April
2006, were clear-cut. There was no difference between those
patients who were prayed for and those who were not. What a surprise.
There was a difference between those who knew they had
been prayed for and those who did not know one way or the other;
but it went in the wrong direction. Those who knew they had been
the beneficiaries of prayer suffered significantly more complications
than those who did not. Was God doing a bit of smiting, to show
his disapproval of the whole barmy enterprise? It seems more probable
that those patients who knew they were being prayed for
suffered additional stress in consequence: 'performance anxiety', as
the experimenters put it. Dr Charles Bethea, one of the researchers,
said, 'It may have made them uncertain, wondering am I so sick
they had to call in their prayer team?' In today's litigious society, is
it too much to hope that those patients suffering heart complications,
as a consequence of knowing they were receiving
experimental prayers, might put together a class action lawsuit
against the Templeton Foundation?
It will be no surprise that this study was opposed by theologians,
perhaps anxious about its capacity to bring ridicule upon religion.
The Oxford theologian Richard Swinburne, writing after the study

failed, objected to it on the grounds that God answers prayers only
if they are offered up for good reasons. Praying for somebody
rather than somebody else, simply because of the fall of the dice in
the design of a double-blind experiment, does not constitute a good
reason. God would see through it. That, indeed, was the point of
my Bob Newhart satire, and Swinburne is right to make it too. But in
other parts of his paper Swinburne himself is beyond satire. Not for
the first time, he seeks to justify suffering in a world run by God:
My suffering provides me with the opportunity to show
courage and patience. It provides you with the opportunity
to show sympathy and to help alleviate my
suffering. And it provides society with the opportunity to
choose whether or not to invest a lot of money in trying
to find a cure for this or that particular kind of suffering
. . . Although a good God regrets our suffering, his
greatest concern is surely that each of us shall show
patience, sympathy and generosity and, thereby, form a
holy character. Some people badly need to be ill for their
own sake, and some people badly need to be ill to provide
important choices for others. Only in that way can some
people be encouraged to make serious choices about the
sort of person they are to be. For other people, illness is
not so valuable.
This grotesque piece of reasoning, so damningly typical of the
theological mind, reminds me of an occasion when I was on a
television panel with Swinburne, and also with our Oxford
colleague Professor Peter Atkins. Swinburne at one point attempted
to justify the Holocaust on the grounds that it gave the Jews a
wonderful opportunity to be courageous and noble. Peter Atkins
splendidly growled, 'May you rot in hell.'*

* This interchange was edited out of the final broadcast version. That Swinburne's
remark is typical of his theology is indicated by his rather similar comment about
Hiroshima in The Existence of God (2004), page 264: 'Suppose that one less
person had been burnt by the Hiroshima atomic bomb. Then there would have
been less opportunity for courage and sympathy . . .'

Another typical piece of theological reasoning occurs further
along in Swinburne's article. He rightly suggests that if God wanted
to demonstrate his own existence he would find better ways to do
it than slightly biasing the recovery statistics of experimental versus
control groups of heart patients. If God existed and wanted to
convince us of it, he could 'fill the world with super-miracles'. But
then Swinburne lets fall his gem: 'There is quite a lot of evidence
anyway of God's existence, and too much might not be good for
us.' Too much might not be good for us! Read it again. Too much
evidence might not be good for us. Richard Swinburne is the
recently retired holder of one of Britain's most prestigious
professorships of theology, and is a Fellow of the British Academy.
If it's a theologian you want, they don't come much more
distinguished. Perhaps you don't want a theologian.
Swinburne wasn't the only theologian to disown the study after
it had failed. The Reverend Raymond J. Lawrence was granted a
generous tranche of op-ed space in the New York Times to explain
why responsible religious leaders 'will breathe a sigh of relief that
no evidence could be found of intercessory prayer having any
effect.38 Would he have sung a different tune if the Benson study
had succeeded in demonstrating the power of prayer? Maybe not,
but you can be certain that plenty of other pastors and theologians
would. The Reverend Lawrence's piece is chiefly memorable for the
following revelation: 'Recently, a colleague told me about a devout,
well-educated woman who accused a doctor of malpractice in his
treatment of her husband. During her husband's dying days, she
charged, the doctor had failed to pray for him.'
Other theologians joined NOMA-inspired sceptics in contending
that studying prayer in this way is a waste of money because supernatural
influences are by definition beyond the reach of science. But
as the Templeton Foundation correctly recognized when it financed
the study, the alleged power of intercessory prayer is at least in
principle within the reach of science. A double-blind experiment
can be done and was done. It could have yielded a positive result.
And if it had, can you imagine that a single religious apologist
would have dismissed it on the grounds that scientific research has
no bearing on religious matters? Of course not.
Needless to say, the negative results of the experiment will not

shake the faithful. Bob Barth, the spiritual director of the Missouri
prayer ministry which supplied some of the experimental prayers,
said: 'A person of faith would say that this study is interesting, but
we've been praying a long time and we've seen prayer work, we
know it works, and the research on prayer and spirituality is just
getting started.' Yeah, right: we know from our faith that prayer
works, so if evidence fails to show it we'll just soldier on until
finally we get the result we want.

[4a6c1]

Boblex. I have so much experience in gift wrapping sugar coated facts for The Jesus People. They do not care. They haz brainwashing.

[Parkbandit]

Did you slip an M&M inside him so you can sue later?


Wasn't it a Jr. Mint?

[Gnome Rage]

Don't have time to read or respond to that properly. Sorry Bob, I'm sure its enthralling, or enraging. Based on Rojo's comment I'm going to go with enraging.

Matt's night took a turn when we left, his packing was leaking and he was getting sick. He's losing blood through his nose and down his throat. CT scan this morning culminating in throwing up and now he's on more BP medication and waiting for doctors to come figure out what went wrong.

[Bobmuhthol]

It's the section of The God Delusion that nub mentioned. I am staying out of this.

[IorakeWarhammer]

A study was funded not too long ago, with 200 people, 100 of them were being prayed for, 100 were not. I forgot what they were diagnosed for, none of the people being prayed for knew whether or not they were being prayed for. As the results came in it showed it was basically even on who recovered and who didn't. It was actually in slight favor for those who weren't prayed for.

Either way, I think your bf would be better off if he wasn't prayed for, actually it wouldn't matter is all I am saying.

Caiy, I was responding to these comments. Thanks for the red rep though! I do have a question for you

Does..

person who comes into "prayers please" thread and posts a message questioning the validity of prayer itself > Muslim guy who sometimes trolls the board defending the validity of prayer?

how about this: worry about GR's friend and not whether you believe in prayer or not

[g++]

I would wait till you hear from a doctor before going into code red mode. Alot of time with resections a transfusion is just par for the course. Your cutting out tissue so internal bleeding is a pretty predictable side effect for the first few days. Im assuming there was an incision in his nasal passage since you mentioned packing.

My father took some transfusin and hes back to being annoying and crotchety already 4 weeks later.

[Asha]

Caiy, I was responding to these comments. Thanks for the red rep though! I do have a question for you

Does..

person who comes into "prayers please" thread and posts a message questioning the validity of prayer itself > Muslim guy who sometimes trolls the board defending the validity of prayer?

Mate, no offence but Everything > you.


how about this: worry about GR's friend and not whether you believe in prayer or not
Directly contradicting yourself, since you haven't posted anything in this message regarding GR's BOYFRIEND except to tell someone else to worry about him. All you've done is attempt to start an argument by asking a stupid, baiting question.
Just gtfo of this thread and stop making it about you being a fake fucking muslim.

[nub]

[SIZE=5][SIZE=5]
THE GREAT PRAYER EXPERIMENT


The study

know from our [FONT=Times New Roman]faith that prayer
works, so if evidence fails to show it we'll just soldier on until[/LEFT]
finally we get the result we want.

Thanks bob, what's funny about the experiment, is that if it worked in favor of the prayer, they would have clung to this like it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I wonder how many people prayed that the experiment would work? Maybe not enough.

[Gnome Rage]

To be clear - I am not and never will be the most religious person in the world. But I do believe that prayers and well wishing cannot harm a person's chances. He is a religious person, which is why this thread exists. He knows he is being prayed for, and therefore knows how many people - whether they know him or not - want him to pull through this. That is the point of this thread, and my asking for prayers, well wishes, or anything you wish to give.

For those who are involved, and a few on this board are.

His catheter and A-line (measures blood pressure from an artery in the wrist rather than a cuff) were removed today. He was taken off IV blood pressure medication. He is still on antibiotics, and still leaking. However he was allowed to stand and sit in a chair today, which was helpful for his moral. Tomorrow morning he should be moved to a room a few floors down and taken out of the ICU. Which means he won't have leads and should only have one or two IVs rather than being hooked to machines and wires all day. He is currently able to eat anything diet wise, however they don't want him chewing or bearing down at all so its mostly soft stuff, but a hell of a step.

Today was a day of progress, though it started out in a negative light.

Also - to answer g++. They removed the tumor through the nose. They did not have to go through the dura, so the leakage is mostly mucus and a little bit of blood. He doesn't need a transfusion or anything, he hasn't lost any significant amount of blood, it is mostly mucus tinged with mostly dried and some fresh blood.


TL;DR - I'm not religious, he is. Prayers can't hurt. He's doing better. Lots of progress.

[Mathari]

I haven't posted anything in this thread yet, and I don't really know you at all, but I've read the updates every now and then (when they show up on "Today's Posts"), and I'm glad to hear that there's been good progress. You can keep having my prayers, for what it's worth.

(On a related note, attempting to debate the efficacy of prayer in a thread like this is pretty low. There's a time and a place, but this isn't it; I would've thought that was obvious.)

[g++]

To be clear - I am not and never will be the most religious person in the world. But I do believe that prayers and well wishing cannot harm a person's chances. He is a religious person, which is why this thread exists. He knows he is being prayed for, and therefore knows how many people - whether they know him or not - want him to pull through this. That is the point of this thread, and my asking for prayers, well wishes, or anything you wish to give.

For those who are involved, and a few on this board are.

His catheter and A-line (measures blood pressure from an artery in the wrist rather than a cuff) were removed today. He was taken off IV blood pressure medication. He is still on antibiotics, and still leaking. However he was allowed to stand and sit in a chair today, which was helpful for his moral. Tomorrow morning he should be moved to a room a few floors down and taken out of the ICU. Which means he won't have leads and should only have one or two IVs rather than being hooked to machines and wires all day. He is currently able to eat anything diet wise, however they don't want him chewing or bearing down at all so its mostly soft stuff, but a hell of a step.

Today was a day of progress, though it started out in a negative light.

Also - to answer g++. They removed the tumor through the nose. They did not have to go through the dura, so the leakage is mostly mucus and a little bit of blood. He doesn't need a transfusion or anything, he hasn't lost any significant amount of blood, it is mostly mucus tinged with mostly dried and some fresh blood.


TL;DR - I'm not religious, he is. Prayers can't hurt. He's doing better. Lots of progress.

Ah that doesnt sound too bad. Your earlier post had me under the impression he was swallowing enough blood to make him sick. Was just saying...you know that could be normal for the procedure. Glad to hear hes progressing well. He will probably start feeling exponentially better as soon as he gets out of the ICU. ICU's are great for keeping people alive but they are also depressing.

[Gnome Rage]

He was swallowing enough blood and snot to make him sick. But, it is normal supposedly.

[Clove]

Thanks bob, what's funny about the experiment, is that if it worked in favor of the prayer, they would have clung to this like it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I wonder how many people prayed that the experiment would work? Maybe not enough.What's interesting in the God Delusion is that Dawkins didn't mention the two prior double blind studies that found a slight advantage to prayer for patients that this was a follow-up to. The devil is in the details so to speak. The particular study Dawkins mentioned also instructed the participants on what exactly to pray (which makes some sort of sense for a researcher if you're trying to "standardize prayer"). There were other specifics about the study that you might consider a good or a bad idea.

I'm not advocating religion or prayer but I have a hard time believing prayer is of no use (given my own subjective experience) and an even more difficult time believing it does harm (given that prior studies disagree with Dawkins, 2:1). Considering Dawkins background I wonder how many of his opinions he would base on the minority conclusions of a scientific study simply because they reinforce his own beliefs on the subject. No offense to a brilliant man, but that sounds as dogmatic as any true-believer of any religion.

If I remember correctly the American Psychiatry Association states there is a slight positive benefit to prayer, so take what you will from that.

GnomeRage, keep asking for prayer if it's a comfort to you and your boyfriend and ignore the critics.

[Gnome Rage]

Oh let them debate all they want, in a different thread.

[Sweets]

We're not close but I've been wondering about how you and your boyfriend were doing. My prayers are with you both. Eloquence isn't my strong point so I'll just say this- Cancer sucks but he's lucky to have you.

[Gnome Rage]

I'm alright, tired, but I slept in today and got a shower so its like a whole new ballgame. All I know about him, until I get to the hospital, is that he's being moved out of the ICU. I appreciate it, even if we're not close.

[Wyrmx]

The fact that they're moving him out of ICU is a positive sign. Good luck to both of you.

[Clove]

Glad to hear he's coming out of ICU. That's a good step. Hope he continues to recover.

[Kid Danger]

Oh let them debate all they want, in a different thread.

I agree with the above.

I'm glad to read Matt's progress has been positive. It is good that he has you by his side. I can't imagine experiencing what he is going through without someone that cares about me by my side.

[Asha]

I agree with the above.

I'm glad to read Matt's progress has been positive. It is good that he has you by his side. I can't imagine experiencing what he is going through without someone that cares about me by my side.

I guess I feel differently. I wouldn't want anyone to know, worry or see me like that. I'm currently single and if I could get away with going in for tests and treatment / surgery on my own (without family knowing) I would.

I hardly see my family as it is these days but I'd make effort to avoid them if this was me, until I was recovering. Selfish I know.

[Gnome Rage]

Update - today was really good until about 8:30 when he started feeling nauseous. He was put on Zofran which helped mildly, but not enough. His vitals and everything are fine. He's finally sleeping, but he was very unhappy for the hour and a half it took to get the PA in (who said she'd get him more medicine, but never did).

He sounds like Darth Vader sleeping.

[Kid Danger]

I guess I feel differently. I wouldn't want anyone to know, worry or see me like that. I'm currently single and if I could get away with going in for tests and treatment / surgery on my own (without family knowing) I would.

I hardly see my family as it is these days but I'd make effort to avoid them if this was me, until I was recovering. Selfish I know.

I am Hispanic with a large family thus my preference may be more culturally bound. Also I have been in the hospital a couple of times in my life. Nothing as serious as what Matt is experiencing but I assure you it is immensely boring. A little company not only raises morale but helps pass the time.

[TheEschaton]

The only time I was ever in the hospital, I had a 105 degree temperature, so my hallucinations kept me company.

[Asha]

I would be driven completely insane by the constant noise, talking, coughing, moaning and snoring. At home I have wonderful double glazed insulated windows and sleep with a fan on high for white noise, so I can't hear a tap drip or a car go by. I don't know what I'd do. I'd probably need to be sedated.
And on that note..

The Ramones, ladies and gentlemen.
(applause)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_YZe5ER6IE

[Gnome Rage]

If all goes well tonight - he'll be discharged early tomorrow afternoon!

[Ardwen]

good luck!

[Thug Life]

I hope he dies from anal cancer :-)

[waywardgs]

I hope he dies from anal cancer :-)

wtf is wrong with you? Did posting this make you feel a little better about yourself?

[Clove]

Hope he gets discharged as expected. I'm sure just being out of the hospital will be a big boost for his mood (and that always helps recovery).

[IorakeWarhammer]

is Thug Life's post against TOS? seems so

very nasty man

[Gnome Rage]

HOME SAFELY!!!

and snuggling with the pup.

[Jhynnifer]

I'm glad he was released and hope he's doing well.

How have you been holding up?

[Gnome Rage]

I've been doing well, for the situation. Looking forward to not having to drive at midnight...

[EasternBrand]

I've been doing well, for the situation. Looking forward to not having to drive at midnight...

Wait. WHO are you dating?

I'm glad your man and his abs are recovering.

[Gnome Rage]

... what?

[DCSL]

Glad he's home safe. And cuddling with the pup. Animals always make me feel a little better when I'm sick. I'd prefer my dog be able to visit me in a hospital than my grandmother. She'd corner me while I'm tied to a hospital bed start in on me about when I'm getting married and stop living in sin... Anyway! Hope his recovery is swift.

[Gnome Rage]

haha. The nurses kept saying we were gonna get married. I was like Oh lawrdy. But he's with the bean - snuggled up all cozy watching iron man. Trying not to pick blood off his nose cause the nurse said DONT YOU DARE. but I'm sure its bugging him.

[EasternBrand]

... what?

See, you said you were doing well, for the situation. The ambiguity of that sentence is such that it could be interpreted as either (i) you are coping, considering the circumstances you and yours have dealt with in the recent days; or (ii) you are maintaining a brave front for the benefit of a man whose claim to fame is being a featured star of a successful (as measured by Nielsen ratings) MTV reality television series. Then I decided to choose the latter, comical interpretation, and crack wise about it.

See, this is why they say it's never as funny when you have to explain it.

[NocturnalRob]

(ii) you are maintaining a brave front for the benefit of a man whose claim to fame is being a featured star of a successful (as measured by Nielsen ratings) MTV reality television series.
Wrong. lrn2comma.

Otherwise, Bloody Loco is gonna gank you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv91WSzBCeY

[EasternBrand]

Wrong. lrn2comma.

I see no error.

[NocturnalRob]

I see no error.
I'm not going to get into a grammatical thing in this thread. Needless to say, the comma placed between "well" and "for" makes your point about "The Situation" moot, as it would be the same as if she had written: "For the situation, I've been doing well."

GRAMMAR IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, EB!

[Gnome Rage]

See, you said you were doing well, for the situation. The ambiguity of that sentence is such that it could be interpreted as either (i) you are coping, considering the circumstances you and yours have dealt with in the recent days; or (ii) you are maintaining a brave front for the benefit of a man whose claim to fame is being a featured star of a successful (as measured by Nielsen ratings) MTV reality television series. Then I decided to choose the latter, comical interpretation, and crack wise about it.

See, this is why they say it's never as funny when you have to explain it.

Oh... I didn't know that was a person. >.>

[EasternBrand]

I'm not going to get into a grammatical thing in this thread. Needless to say, the comma placed between "well" and "for" makes your point about "The Situation" moot, as it would be the same as if she had written: "For the situation, I've been doing well."

GRAMMAR IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, EB!

Oh, good. As long as you're not critiquing my grammar, which is flawless, I'm okay with your disagreement on my interpretation of others'.

[NocturnalRob]

Oh, good. As long as you're not critiquing my grammar, which is flawless, I'm okay with your disagreement on my interpretation of others'.
Bloody Loco, fool. Remember the name!

[EasternBrand]

Oh... I didn't know that was a person. >.>

Ignorance, in this case, is truly bliss.

[Gnome Rage]

Ignorance, in this case, is truly bliss.

I barely watch TV as is, I don't watch MTV at all... I proceeded to google "The Situation" and now I know why I don't know who that is. But now I understand halloween so much more.

[diethx]

Ignorance, in this case, is truly bliss.

You know you love Jersdays, don't lie.

[Clove]

I'm not going to get into a grammatical thing in this thread...I don't think you mean what you think you mean.

[Clove]

Actually the comma had less to do with invalidating the assumption that GR was discussing a man on the cast of the Situation as the absence of a capital. It's almost as if some ancient English speaker anticipated that some day, in the future, there might be confusion between common and proper nouns and decided that we needed an instant means to differentiate the two.

[NocturnalRob]

Actually the comma had less to do with invalidating the assumption that GR was discussing a man on the cast of the Situation as the absence of a capital. It's almost as if some ancient English speaker anticipated that some day, in the future, there might be confusion between common and proper nouns and decided that we needed an instant means to differentiate the two.
e. e. cummings called. he said, "go fuck yourself."

[Cephalopod]

e. e. cummings called. he said, "go fuck yourself."

Don't you mean e e cummings?

[NocturnalRob]

Don't you mean e e cummings?
No. I don't.

[diethx]

a man on the cast of the Situation

Wait, what?

[Keller]

Wait, what?

^

[Clove]

e. e. cummings called. he said, "go fuck yourself."e e always was cantankerous. I'm sure it mostly had to do with being a cummings.

[Gnome Rage]

I'm reviving this thread because we need them yet again. He was supposed to begin radiation this summer however we just received a phone call from Mass General informing him that the doctors left 20% of the tumor when they went in the first time and that they will not radiate him until there is less than 2% left. They fear that if they radiate him, and the tumor grows back he can't have radiation again in the area. They want to go for a more invasive surgery and then radiate. We're going to Boston tomorrow for more scans, but it looks like he's heading into a more dangerous surgery (not going through the nose or mouth, but rather cutting from the spine) and then radiation.

[Androidpk]

Why did they leave so much?

[Gnome Rage]

They believed that taking more would impact his ability to turn his head from left to right. It probably still will.

[Stanley Burrell]

Go apeshit berserk with heavy machinery (in a law-abiding fashion) if you feel the need to. Stay strong.

[HJFudge]

You have my sympathies as well as my prayers. Hopefully the doctors will know how to best help him and be swift and sure handed in their surgery

[Gnome Rage]

scans tomorrow but it looks like more surgery. if they dont take as much as possible we're looking at 50+% chance of it growing back.

[Aylien]

Sending hopeful thoughts and lots of prayers for the best possible outcome.

[Gnome Rage]

The surgery has been set for August 11th. He is having more surgery, close to the brain stem because that is where the tumor remains. However, removal of the rest of the tumor increases his chances of never seeing this again to almost 90%. Also, depending on the state of two pieces of bone (which allow the head to rotate) he may be having his head stabilizer, limiting the mobility of his head to about 30% from side to side. So, wish us luck and love. <3

[Drakefang]

I'll add my prayers to the rest. Best wishes to you both through this time.

[Divone]

Prayers and huge hugs to you and your boyfriend.

[Kuyuk]

I tried to hug her boyfriend but he tried to tittyfuck me, I'm not sure what was up with it, but I suspect it's common practice among them.. ;-)

[Gnome Rage]

surgery is scheduled for 730 tomorrow. they're hoping to get everything this time. lets hope so. recovery in pa for about 20 days. then radiation in the next 3 months. please keep him in your thoughts tomorrow and hope for the best. <3

[Ayamei]

:heart: god speed

[Gnome Rage]

After 6 hours, we received an update. He is stable and they are halfway through with removing the tumor. We're guessing at least six more hours if not more, they're getting to the trickier areas where the tumor has touched nerves and spinal cord.

[Asha]

Surgeons are fucking unbelievable people.

[Gnome Rage]

His team has three surgeons on it, I imagine they're back there trading off so they don't get tired. There is also like a 4-5 person staff on top of that

[Asha]

Brave kid. All the best to you both.

[4a6c1]

Indeed a very brave kid. But I wish more best to you than Drayal wishes.

[Asha]

Indeed a very brave kid. But I wish more best to you than Drayal wishes.

Damn you's!! Damn you's all to hell!!

[Drew]

Saying a prayer for you and him. Hopefully it all continues to go well.

[Jhynnifer]

He is in my prayers, please keep us updated.

[Gnome Rage]

He's out of surgery. We can't see him for a few hours but they don't think he'll be in ICU tonight. They also are very confident they got all of it, the surgeon said "We think we got all of it and I don't usually say that". They'll be giving him an MRI to make sure in the next few days. He will still have to undergo radiation in Boston, but they're very very happy with the procedure... and so am I.

[Drew]

Great news.

[Gnome Rage]

I'm so fucking happy.

[Kuyuk]

Tell him to stop slacking and get back on LoL for some fun.


(Very happy it went well though, grats and best wishes)

[Reltov420]

My prayers go out to you, and cancer patients everywhere. Every day.

[Warriorbird]

Glad he's doing so well.

[Sean]

He's out of surgery. We can't see him for a few hours but they don't think he'll be in ICU tonight. They also are very confident they got all of it, the surgeon said "We think we got all of it and I don't usually say that". They'll be giving him an MRI to make sure in the next few days. He will still have to undergo radiation in Boston, but they're very very happy with the procedure... and so am I.

Congrats I don't pray but I'm glad to hear he's alright. Now that he's made it through this hurdle I think it's time to tell him to quit smoking.

[Divone]

:> good news.

Also, I wish you MORE the best than both Drayal and Rojo. I wish you extramegasupercalafragelixbixish.....bixie..someth ing...MORE Best WISHES

[Gnome Rage]

lol. he hasnt smoked since midnight last night and he's supposed to quit. might try those electronic cigarettes. either way, the cancer could not have been prevented in any way. its something from when you're born. he is still supposed to quit though.

thank you all for well wishes, love and prayers.

[Deadelf]

Glad the surgery went well. Good luck with getting him to quit the cigarettes. Took me a lot of tries and years to quit and I still miss it every damn day, even after eight plus years. Really miss cigars...(grumble)

[Cephalopod]

Like a few others, I'm not a prayers person, but you and Matt are in my thoughts. Glad to hear he's out and doing okay.

Remember what you're supposed to do the next time you're in Boston...

[Kuyuk]

Like a few others, I'm not a prayers person, but you and Matt are in my thoughts. Glad to hear he's out and doing okay.

Remember what you're supposed to do the next time you're in Boston...

Anal? What? That fucked up rob.

[Aylien]

I am glad to hear things went well, and hope he has a speedy and uncomplicated recovery.

[Gweneivia]

all my best to Matt and to you...I can't imagine the stress you've been under. Hopefully you'll both be able to sleep easy soon. :) <3

[Gnome Rage]

Thank you loves. Even after the surgery it was stressful... Get this.

We were told that we couldn't see him until 2 hours after the surgery so we went to get dinner. Then we came inside and ran into the surgeon in the elevator. He asked if we'd seen Matt yet and we told him we hadn't. He told us that he had a bit of a headache but it was to be expected and we should go see him. So we go down to the family lounge and asked the nurse if we could go see him. She called the "step down" nurse who informed us (rudely) that we couldn't see him because he had a headache and "didn't we want the best for him, and the best thing was not seeing him".

After about 45 minutes, the lounge nurse got a call and wrote down the information given, then bought a bag of potato chips and took her sweeeet time coming to give us his room number which she'd just gotten. He had finally fallen asleep and we could go see him (as in view him), but we couldn't wake him up.

Oh, they gave him a CT scan on the way to room switches... which woke him up. (ha.)

Then we finally got to see him, and the floor nurses in his semi-permanent room looked at us like we were crazy when we relayed this story. They kind of laughed and said that it was ridiculous for them to say what they said.


fun shit.

not really


* Side note that doesn't have to do with Matt *

The lounge nurse that bought the potato chips was a total bitch to another family. The screen in the room showed their loved one had been taken out of surgery 45 minutes earlier. They asked the nurse if she knew how he made out, because they hadn't recieved any information regarding the outcome of the surgery. The nurse told them she couldn't tell them anything and they had to wait for the doctor longer. They asked if she could call the doctor and she flat out told them no.

The other families, including us, were able to talk to the main surgeons before the patient was even completely closed up and out of the OR. So the lady was a huge bitch.

[AnticorRifling]

I didn't realize your boyfriend and the other family's loved one were the only two people receiving care in the entire facility and that you had all the information available to make the decision that the nurse was a bitch and didn't know how to do her job.

I realize it's a stress filled time but seriously get the fuck over yourself. She ate potato chips?! I mean eating what could be the only thing she gets on her shift right there at her station?! The nerve! She followed her instructions for operating the ward and denied you access to the patient in her care as per her guidelines?! The gall!

I do hope your BF is doing better but I'm pretty sure you only added to the stress of the place. You can't fix him, you can't make him better, get out of the way and let people work.

What did I miss?

[4a6c1]

WHOA. Antipants grew vagina teeth.

[diethx]

I didn't realize your boyfriend and the other family's loved one were the only two people receiving care in the entire facility and that you had all the information available to make the decision that the nurse was a bitch and didn't know how to do her job.

I realize it's a stress filled time but seriously get the fuck over yourself. She ate potato chips?! I mean eating what could be the only thing she gets on her shift right there at her station?! The nerve! She followed her instructions for operating the ward and denied you access to the patient in her care as per her guidelines?! The gall!

I do hope your BF is doing better but I'm pretty sure you only added to the stress of the place. You can't fix him, you can't make him better, get out of the way and let people work.

What did I miss?

This, pretty much. Could the woman have been a bitch? Sure. Was she a bitch from what you described? No.

[Gnome Rage]

I didn't realize your boyfriend and the other family's loved one were the only two people receiving care in the entire facility and that you had all the information available to make the decision that the nurse was a bitch and didn't know how to do her job.

I realize it's a stress filled time but seriously get the fuck over yourself. She ate potato chips?! I mean eating what could be the only thing she gets on her shift right there at her station?! The nerve! She followed her instructions for operating the ward and denied you access to the patient in her care as per her guidelines?! The gall!

I do hope your BF is doing better but I'm pretty sure you only added to the stress of the place. You can't fix him, you can't make him better, get out of the way and let people work.

What did I miss?

You missed the fact that there is a screen on the wall telling you where all the patients are (based on number, not name) and there were only three patients still under her "care".

Also, seeing as I was in the same room except for the occasional cigarette break and dinner, and I saw her eat dinner/lunch, I'm 100% sure she ate something other than the potato chips.

What else, oh. I'm sure she has some sort of nursing degree but she was glorified receptionist. She didn't actually work with any of the patients - only the families and contacting the doctors.

Perhaps I didn't describe the situation well enough, but I'm sure if you had been there you would have found it just as frustrating.

And as for the pain nurse, saying we couldn't see him - wouldn't you think that after being told by the head surgeon, his assistant and the anesthesiologist (separate from the elevator incident) that we would be able to see him, we would actually be allowed to see him? The floor nurses, after being move from the "step down" unit, agreed that there was no reason to post-pone us seeing him, because we just wanted to SEE him.

[Thickbeard]

I didn't realize your boyfriend and the other family's loved one were the only two people receiving care in the entire facility and that you had all the information available to make the decision that the nurse was a bitch and didn't know how to do her job.

I realize it's a stress filled time but seriously get the fuck over yourself. She ate potato chips?! I mean eating what could be the only thing she gets on her shift right there at her station?! The nerve! She followed her instructions for operating the ward and denied you access to the patient in her care as per her guidelines?! The gall!

I do hope your BF is doing better but I'm pretty sure you only added to the stress of the place. You can't fix him, you can't make him better, get out of the way and let people work.

What did I miss?

I agree, most nurses are totally overworked. There are other people getting treatment in the world besides yourself, folks.

[AnticorRifling]

You missed the fact that there is a screen on the wall telling you where all the patients are (based on number, not name) and there were only three patients still under her "care".
By missed do you mean "stuff I didn't include but really doesn't matter if it's 1 or 1000" since it's her liability.


Also, seeing as I was in the same room except for the occasional cigarette break and dinner, and I saw her eat dinner/lunch, I'm 100% sure she ate something other than the potato chips. Well I stand corrected she got chow.


What else, oh. I'm sure she has some sort of nursing degree but she was glorified receptionist. She didn't actually work with any of the patients - only the families and contacting the doctors.
We get it, you're frustrated.


Perhaps I didn't describe the situation well enough, but I'm sure if you had been there you would have found it just as frustrating. Probably not. I follow instructions.


And as for the pain nurse, saying we couldn't see him - wouldn't you think that after being told by the head surgeon, his assistant and the anesthesiologist (separate from the elevator incident) that we would be able to see him, we would actually be allowed to see him?
No? Condition of a patient is an extremely dynamic thing. He was the responsibility of the pain nurse at that time (I'm guessing here) so it's his/her call since the liability is on his/her shoulders.


The floor nurses, after being move from the "step down" unit, agreed that there was no reason to post-pone us seeing him, because we just wanted to SEE him.

Let me guess they agreed based on the "facts" you gave them / they agreed because calling you names isn't professional. I'm going to say it was one or two of those.

Visitors can easily excite patients, that can be a BAD (random caps boosh) thing right? Right. Had you been able to SEE him early and the excitment caused your BF to stroke out that's on the nurse which is why the nurse makes the call.

He's out, he's doing good (I hope) that's what matters. To even think you're somehow a victim here and bitching about it is pretty retarded, to me, based on the story you've given.

[Asha]

Uuhhhhh.
Probably best to just agree you're frustrated and get this thread back to concentrating on the health of your boyf.

[AnticorRifling]

Uuhhhhh.
Probably best to just agree you're frustrated and get this thread back to concentrating on the health of your boyf.

Pretty much this, minus the shortening of boyfriend to boyf....something is wrong with Drayal.

[Gnome Rage]

The only thing I care to dispute is the fact that we asked to view him through the window and thus not have him see us - we just wanted to see that he was alive before we left. I understand that it can excite the patient and cause problems, but the intention was not for him to actually see us.

Either way - he can't get out of bed without pain. They want him walking and sitting in the next day but it is apparently excruciating for him. So that's my update.

[Divone]

Thank you for the updates. I wouldn't mind Anticor's vagina teeth, vent away.

[AnticorRifling]

So that's why they put strings on tampons, it's floss!

[Aylien]

I know it seems like everyone is jumping your case over what seems to a very frustrating time for you.

There are a lot of things that go on in the background that you may not be privy to.

When he came up from surgery, there's usually a standard post surgical protocol that the nurses may have been following. The Dr. may have told YOU it was okay to see him, but he may not have told the NURSES it was okay for you to see him. Unless he tells the nurses, they follow the standard protocol.

The "Lounge Nurse" most likely wasn't a nurse at all. She was probably Unit Clerk, which is basically the Unit Secretary. They take care of all the paperwork on the units and serve pretty much as "guard dog". She can not take orders from the doctor, which is why she couldn't "call" the doctor. It would have been pointless for her to call the doctor and not be able to LEGALLY take orders or carry them out. She can answer the phone and let the nurse know that the Dr. is on the phone. You may not have even seen your boyfriend's nurse because she was dealing with another high-needs patient. (There is a reason the nurse is only assigned three patients on a step-down unit).

I'm sorry you had such a frustrating time. Things that look like they should be simple, often aren't.

[Keller]

Come on, Aylien!

[AnticorRifling]

Great, now we all have to go watch Tommy Boy.

[diethx]

Come on, Aylien!

I lol'd.

[TheEschaton]

Also, doctors are often douchebags. Most surgeons I know (and I know a few) have such hero complexes that they want to grant favors to the peons they have just saved. He may have been like, "They want to see him? Well,I told the nurses X, but fuck it, I saved his life, let them dance."

This is exactly how my thought process would have worked. It's why Indians are so well suited to medicine.

[diethx]

Also, doctors are often douchebags. Most surgeons I know (and I know a few) have such hero complexes that they want to grant favors to the peons they have just saved. He may have been like, "They want to see him? Well,I told the nurses X, but fuck it, I saved his life, let them dance."

This is exactly how my thought process would have worked. It's why Indians are so well suited to medicine.

So what you're saying is.. you're a total douche. Check.

[Androidpk]

Like that wasn't already known!

[Gnome Rage]

Matt is being discharged to the family house this afternoon!

[Gnome Rage]

He is officially at the family house, resting in bed. We need to get him some more pillows, but other than that he seems to be doing okay. The cab driver was flooring it over bumps and that hurt Matt's head a bit - but otherwise it has been an uneventful discharge.

[tokeinc]

You shouldn't have been allowed to reproduce.

[Kuyuk]

i can only hope my child won't be as insensitive and condescending as most of this forum is :P


I wish the best for your child, but you need to realize you're not wanted here and GTFO.

[Divone]

That song from the Simpsons that they sing for the monsters...I can't remember which Treehouse Horror it was...may work.

Just don't look. Just don't look.

[Kuyuk]

go make me some chocolate pudding

Love to.

Want arsenic or cyanide?

[Thickbeard]

Looking back through this thread, it is evident I was clearly being an asshole earlier. Sorry for not taking how you felt at the time into consideration, Gnome Rage. I hope your BF is doing better and I hope that the surgeons were able to excise all of the cancer.

[Gnome Rage]

Please please please keep Matt in your thoughts and prayers. His mother called me today, (I had to go back to school last night) and he fell when trying to get water. He went to the ER for most of the day and now he is being observed for at least the night. He was dehydrated and had high blood pressure and heart rate when he went in. They've stabilized him, but he isn't allowed to eat - they're giving him a saline/dextrose solution and monitoring how much his body is absorbing and how much is being disposed of.

Please keep thinking about him and sending positive thoughts.

[Asha]

Pretty much this, minus the shortening of boyfriend to boyf....something is wrong with Drayal.

I'm getting help. Thanks though.

[Gnome Rage]

whoever repped me and asked why he got up in the first place; the doctors want him to. it is important that he remains mobile for short periods of time to keep everything draining. it also keeps his spirits up and makes the whole situation appear more managable.

[Gnome Rage]

Matt is once again (5th time) going into surgery. There appears to be air or csf in his head and he's in excruciating pain. He can't sit or stand up at the moment without the pain increasing past his threshold. He hasn't slept in almost 4 days and there is no pain medicine that cuts back what he's feeling. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers as you go about your day. We're not sure when the surgery is, but it will be this afternoon at some point.

[AnticorRifling]

Brutal, wish you guys the best.

[Keller]

That is really sobering.

I'm sorry.

[Aylien]

Keeping you both in my thoughts.

[Divone]

Prayers and thoughts with you both. *hugs*

[Kuyuk]

Hope he does/is doing better very soon.

[Gnome Rage]

my most recent update is that they believe he has an infection at the sight of the spinal fluid leak and that he will be recieving daily lumbar punctures in order to culture it and i assume find out what kind of infection it is. he says that he is still in pain but it comes and goes as far as intensity, though it is always present in some capacity. please keep him in your thoughts. <3

[Kuyuk]

Shitty spot to get an infection.

Blame the doctor for not washing his hands after going pp

Dirty fuckers.

[Showal]

my most recent update is that they believe he has an infection at the sight of the spinal fluid leak and that he will be recieving daily lumbar punctures in order to culture it and i assume find out what kind of infection it is. he says that he is still in pain but it comes and goes as far as intensity, though it is always present in some capacity. please keep him in your thoughts. <3

Kid can't catch a break, huh?

Hope he pulls through this latest issue.

[Gnome Rage]

Unfortunately, I have to do another one of these updates. Matt is going in for yet another surgery this afternoon. They did another CT scan that revealed more air trapped in his head. This time (as opposed to all the other times?) they're going to look for where the air is coming from (smart decision huh?) and try to fix that, rather than just remove the air (as they've been doing in the previous 4 surgeries).

That's all I know, and I'll be in class from 11-5, checking my phone and hoping for updates. Please keep him in your thoughts today.

[Kuyuk]

Jesus :( Hope they figure it out!


Also, I didnt know they had surgeries for blondes...

[Divone]

Also, I didnt know they had surgeries for blondes...


As serious as Matt's condition is, that is damn funny.

I hope they find the cause this time. Your in my thoughts and prayers Gnomie.:love:

[Gnome Rage]

While I think this is good news, I'm reluctant to get excited anymore. They found a pin hole leak where the CSF fluid was draining and where air was getting in. They basically pulled out all of the work that they'd done previously and redid it - hopefully fixing the problem. I won't know until tomorrow how he's feeling because his mom isn't allowed to see him until then. I'm hoping that this remains good news, but I'm wary to believe they truly fixed it. Keep praying <3

[Boora]

Wat up Gnomie!

Today is the first time I saw this thread...the whole thread. I'll keep you and Matt in my thoughts. I'm not much for prayers.

My father's been battling cancer for the last 4 years and it's also been a ton of ups and downs. I've lost and several of my friends have lost our family members to cancer. Cancer sucks.

Along with so many offers so far, if you need an ear, I'm here.

Hoping for the best for Matt and all of you supporting Matt.

[Asha]

Yeah maybe not so much with the losing people. Thanks.
Besides, no one dies on my fucking watch.

[Gnome Rage]

I got to talk to Matt today on the phone for about five minutes. He still says that he's in pain but he can't gauge it against his first surgery yet. He's supposed to be called me tomorrow at some point but until then, all I can offer is that he's on a lot of medicine and I'm hoping that he can sleep through the night.

[CrystalTears]

I'm so sorry that he's going through this, and you suffering along with him. I'll keep him in my prayers. How awful. :(

[Gnome Rage]

After a huge scare over the weekend, Matt is back in the family house and out of the hospital. Hopefully this time for good!

I'm going to do a little venting about the scare. On Saturday night, the infectious disease doctor went into Matt's room and told him that he had a rare bacterial infection, and that antibiotics could only cure one strain of it, and that if it wasn't the curable strain he wasn't going to make it. So he calls me, extremely upset - but we wait until Sunday to get the official report on what strain it is.

The official report? The lab technician made a typo and put in the wrong number (which corresponds to no infectious disease). I'm happy he's fine. I'm pissed that the whole thing even happened... but oh well, he's fine and resting outside of the hospital.

[Sharnath]

That is good news. Hope all remains well.

Sharnath
Weed Mage

[Gnome Rage]

That is the goal. He called and said he had a headache but other than that he seems okay...

[Gnome Rage]

So, it looks like he's going to be out of the woods. A few days ago he met with his neurosurgeon who cleared him to come home. He is waiting on clearance from the ENT, but that appointment isn't until the 22nd. If all goes well he should be in the car Friday morning - hopefully I'll see him around Saturdayish.

Its only a 9 hour drive, but he's only allowed to drive for 2 hours before he has to get out and walk around or be upright for at least 1. So, it makes it longer =/. But soon! he'll be home! :)

[Gravebane525]

After a huge scare over the weekend, Matt is back in the family house and out of the hospital. Hopefully this time for good!

I'm going to do a little venting about the scare. On Saturday night, the infectious disease doctor went into Matt's room and told him that he had a rare bacterial infection, and that antibiotics could only cure one strain of it, and that if it wasn't the curable strain he wasn't going to make it. So he calls me, extremely upset - but we wait until Sunday to get the official report on what strain it is.

The official report? The lab technician made a typo and put in the wrong number (which corresponds to no infectious disease). I'm happy he's fine. I'm pissed that the whole thing even happened... but oh well, he's fine and resting outside of the hospital.

thats a hell of alot of emotional stress put on someone thats in the hospital. you find the right lawyer you might have a lawsuit.

[TheEschaton]

If by "right lawyer" you mean the "right incompetent lawyer", you might have a point.

[Gravebane525]

I mean a decent one that cares more for money then anything else. the kinda lawyer that got that thief money when he cut himself on a knife in the kitchen while breaking into someones house.

that kinda emotional shock caused by a careless hospital employee should be worth something.

[diethx]

Accidents happen and it's a shame he had to be stressed out, but it's not like some careless hospital employee actually infected him with that deadly bacterium. If that were the case, then sure, sue their pants off. But sue for a clerical error that caused no real harm? Seriously? DERP.

[Atlanteax]

Accidents happen and it's a shame he had to be stressed out, but it's not like some careless hospital employee actually infected him with that deadly bacterium. If that were the case, then sure, sue their pants off. But sue for a clerical error that caused no real harm? Seriously? DERP.

Yet we wonder why health care costs continue to go up...

[EasternBrand]

Accidents happen and it's a shame he had to be stressed out, but it's not like some careless hospital employee actually infected him with that deadly bacterium. If that were the case, then sure, sue their pants off. But sue for a clerical error that caused no real harm? Seriously? DERP.

All I have to do is file a lawsuit to get your pants off?

Fuck. Courts are closed. . . . MONDAY.

[Gnome Rage]

Hes sick now. puking up some mixture of CSF fluid, mucus and stomach acid. Its looking like I'm taking a flight back to Pittsburgh tomorrow. Please keep praying.

[B4Hand]

Oh honey..I'm so sorry, thinking of you both, and big prayers going up for him. Hang in there, he's a tough cookie.

[diethx]

All I have to do is file a lawsuit to get your pants off?

Fuck. Courts are closed. . . . MONDAY.

:)

[Kuyuk]

Hes sick now. puking up some mixture of CSF fluid, mucus and stomach acid. Its looking like I'm taking a flight back to Pittsburgh tomorrow. Please keep praying.

Sucks, we kicked some ass in LoL for the short while he was good...

Actually, I went 0-14 that game, so he did the ass kicking...

[Savrin]

Best of luck to your boyfriend. I've known a couple of folks who've pulled through cancer treatment. It was a long haul, but they came through okay. I hope things go as well for you and yours.






I mean a decent one that cares more for money then anything else. the kinda lawyer that got that thief money when he cut himself on a knife in the kitchen while breaking into someones house.

that kinda emotional shock caused by a careless hospital employee should be worth something.

I hope you take this in the way that it's meant. I'd rather give you something to think about than offend you so much that you reject everything I have to say on this subject.

Litigation causes people who practice medicine to pay huge amounts of money in insurance. They in turn charge more money to cover that malpractice insurance. They also work for larger hospitals so that they don't have to pay as much, lowering the number of people who practice on their own. You can see the ripple effect here I'm sure.

Not getting into litigation as a whole, and the impact that it has on society, or your way of life, your pay check, your job, your family and your neighbors, I really hope you can see why a lot of people don't appreciate that mentality. I hope you become one of those people.

[Gravebane525]

I don't think people should just say that holding the hospital and peopel that work there responciple for there actions would up the insurance so it should be ignored is a good thing. how much would it have cost them to have someone double check the report for typos before telling someone theres a good chance there gonna die?

why is holding the hospital to high standards the wrong way to go about it? typos cause undo stress, unnecessary tests, even bigger problems sometimes. same basic scenario the stress caused my grandfather to have a heart attack. he survived but its BS people believe its ok to let the hospital slack off and screw up in hopes of keeping costs down. when it wouldn't cost that much for them to double check.

[Bobmuhthol]

In a perfect world nobody would fuck up, but that doesn't mean you can sue someone for not causing harm.

[AnticorRifling]

I don't think people should just say that holding the hospital and peopel that work there responciple for there actions would up the insurance so it should be ignored is a good thing. how much would it have cost them to have someone double check the report for typos before telling someone theres a good chance there gonna die?

why is holding the hospital to high standards the wrong way to go about it? typos cause undo stress, unnecessary tests, even bigger problems sometimes. same basic scenario the stress caused my grandfather to have a heart attack. he survived but its BS people believe its ok to let the hospital slack off and screw up in hopes of keeping costs down. when it wouldn't cost that much for them to double check.
We get it you're retarded, you don't need to keep posting to drive the point home.

[Asha]

I'm glad you could decipher that.

[msconstrew]

thats a hell of alot of emotional stress put on someone thats in the hospital. you find the right lawyer you might have a lawsuit.

Highly unlikely. In most states, you habe to suffer physical injury in conjunction with emotional distress to recover for ED. This is to prevent namby pamby whiners from bringing baseless lawsuits about their hurt feelings.

[waywardgs]

What if emotional distress causes physical pain or even death? It's happened...

[Gnome Rage]

Does it matter? We're not filing a lawsuit.

Regardless of what could of happened, I doubt many families want more than to see their loved one better. If the possibility of a payout is more important then priorities need to be checked.

[Bobmuhthol]

What if emotional distress causes physical pain or even death? It's happened...

No it hasn't. A shitty condition like being prone to dying because of emotional distress might have killed some people, but that doesn't mean the stress killed them. And since when is a doctor saying something to you grounds for a lawsuit over "emotional distress"? If the same thing had been said to the same person, except I said it instead of a doctor, are you telling me that the scenario is substantially different?