Reportable offense?

[Fidessa]

There is an MA'er that hunts in the same area I do with both characters, oddly timing it so they're two steps from each other and rest at different tables. This person underhunts by what I estimate is about 15+ levels, for the purpose of collecting skins (sabre-tooth tiger and woolly mammoth). I also suspect AFK scripting, though can't be sure, as I have been both dead and stunned and seen both of them enter and exit the room without pausing, though they could just be unfriendly, I suppose. Is this something that can be reported? It will go on for hours and hours at a time, to the point that I see him every time I'm hunting.

[DCSL]

Is his name Kizun?

[BriarFox]

Is his name Kizun?

^ Though he'd probably be using his empath for it, whichever one that is.

[Fidessa]

Nope, Dreaven/Bochser.

[Stanley Burrell]

What profession are you?

Or ... Here:

Rogue: Lockpick + spores.

Warrior: Bash + spores.

Actually viable professions: Anything that can hit them while seeming accidental.

[Fidessa]

I'm more of a, use proper channels kind of person, but it might be worth a shot.

[Stanley Burrell]

Shoot. You're not in an area with stuff that drops boxes are you?

Is the area avalanchable? Avalanchable. Just run around going "chase" and killing all their stuff. Probably a good way to figure out whether or not they're afk-scripting.


I'm more of a, use proper channels kind of person, but it might be worth a shot.

I dunno. If you're not discrete it could be an opening for CvC. You have to make it look like an accident and make sure the GMs don't read these boards.

[Drew]

If you think they are AFK scripting you can report them, GMs will check them if they have free time.

[Stanley Burrell]

They might have a [SEND] alert. Dunno how they're hunting, but maybe you could buff up a critter, if possible, to the point of their not being able strike it (using TD or DS whatever) and see if they keep swinging or casting.

[droit]

Oh, I've definitely killed those guys with 635 while hunting bandits in that area. They just depart immediately and don't make a fuss. Might as well use them for CvC practice. :)

[WRoss]

if you wanted to stop them, curse two skins, stalk them, then when they kill something, drop the skins

[Fidessa]

It could be justified CvC based on this outfit alone:

He appears to be a Dark Elf.
He is very tall and appears to be very young. He has brooding deep sable eyes and fair skin. He has long, shiny auburn hair with lighter streaks. He has a straight nose and broad shoulders.
He has a black-and-blue left eye.
He has a wooden arrow stuck in his chest.
He is holding a polished kakore runestaff topped with an ebony snarling kitten in his right hand.
He is wearing an obsidian-clasped night black spidersilk cloak embroidered with a tiny prowling kitten, a curved cat claw locket, an etched kitten-shaped pendant, an obsidian-bound maoral badge, a pair of fake razor-sharp fangs, a playful kitten pin, a rune-etched mithglin-bound weapon harness, some deep ebony leather, an onyx-chained leather loincloth, and a pair of sleek black boots with mithril kitten buckles.

[Merala]

Dreaven and Bochser are both AFK scripting, yes, I tested the theory by sweeping one of them. They are played by the same person, and they are both jerks. I did report, but haven't heard a response, so I don't know if they ever looked into it. They stir up crap up there, and it can get sorta annoying.

I also have 635'd one of them too, Droit.

[Rahrah]

He posts here. I kinda look forward to hearing what he has to say about this.

[Lord Orbstar]

cast meteor swarm one room away

[Morph]

Well, afk scripting is against policy, so I don't see anything wrong with using report to ask the GM's to look into it.

[Tgo01]

You guys are funny.


I also suspect AFK scripting, though can't be sure, as I have been both dead and stunned and seen both of them enter and exit the room without pausing, though they could just be unfriendly, I suppose.

I have stopped to rescue you after you have died numerous times and now you are claiming I am afk scripting and never stop to help you? I have even healed you back at the lodge a few times too. But I suppose since I never help you I can always stop doing both of those things if you wish.


Oh, I've definitely killed those guys with 635 while hunting bandits in that area. They just depart immediately and don't make a fuss. Might as well use them for CvC practice.

More lies. Your bandits are what kill me when you just leave them in the area without taking care of them first. A lot of the times when you do stick around to actually kill your bandits and they end up stunning me you'll unstun me and I leave the area. Why would I stick around?


Dreaven and Bochser are both AFK scripting, yes, I tested the theory by sweeping one of them.

What does this prove?


I also have 635'd one of them too, Droit.

If you are who I think you are you cast at me once and as soon as I saw this I left the area because you happened to catch me when I was out of mana and spirit. By the time I got some mana and returned you were already in the Landing.

Just to clarify this since a lot of people in this thread don't seem to realize it, scripting is not against the rules.

[AnticorRifling]

You got swept, case closed!

[Drew]

You got swept, case closed!

Johnny did it.

[Fidessa]

You guys are funny.
I have stopped to rescue you after you have died numerous times and now you are claiming I am afk scripting and never stop to help you? I have even healed you back at the lodge a few times too. But I suppose since I never help you I can always stop doing both of those things if you wish.


While you may have healed her, Fid has definitely been stunned/prone/dead and watched both Dreaven and Bochser fly by (in fact, only last night she was stunned by a glacei ice maneuver and watched them both go by) - she's only died once on that particular part of the mountain, so saying you've rescued her from death several times is an exaggeration. She's also had critters she's been attacking move a room away only to be finished off by one of them. Even if you aren't AFK scripting all the time - it seems likely you're doing it some of the time, and the ceaseless script running is jarring. If you're not afk scripting, are you telling me that you sit and watch your screen scroll all the hours that Dreaven and Bochser hunt? And as it's unlikely you achieve any learning from these critters, you're basically drumming up swarms for the purpose of selling skins. Even given the benefit of the doubt and assuming you're not afk scripting, you have to admit that an obvious display of MA'ing, scripting, and overhunting an area until you're out of mana is disruptive.

I'll happily take the trade-off of not being healed or rescued by your characters, if you will in turn hunt like-level creatures and be attentive to the game while doing so.

[Sile]

http://i33.tinypic.com/2m83wr8.jpg

[diethx]

While you may have healed her, Fid has definitely been stunned/prone/dead and watched both Dreaven and Bochser fly by (in fact, only last night she was stunned by a glacei ice maneuver and watched them both go by) - she's only died once on that particular part of the mountain, so saying you've rescued her from death several times is an exaggeration. She's also had critters she's been attacking move a room away only to be finished off by one of them. Even if you aren't AFK scripting all the time - it seems likely you're doing it some of the time, and the ceaseless script running is jarring. If you're not afk scripting, are you telling me that you sit and watch your screen scroll all the hours that Dreaven and Bochser hunt? And as it's unlikely you achieve any learning from these critters, you're basically drumming up swarms for the purpose of selling skins. Even given the benefit of the doubt and assuming you're not afk scripting, you have to admit that an obvious display of MA'ing, scripting, and overhunting an area until you're out of mana is disruptive.

I'll happily take the trade-off of not being healed or rescued by your characters, if you will in turn hunt like-level creatures and be attentive to the game while doing so.

Whether or not you like what he's doing, if he's not afk while scripting, he's not doing anything against policy. You're more than welcome to find another area in which to hunt if it bothers you that much. You don't really have any right to tell him he can't hunt what he wants to so long as he isn't breaking policy.

[Fidessa]

Whether or not you like what he's doing, if he's not afk while scripting, he's not doing anything against policy. You're more than welcome to find another area in which to hunt if it bothers you that much. You don't really have any right to tell him he can't hunt what he wants to so long as he isn't breaking policy.

I still very much doubt that AFK scripting is not happening, but I don't want to violate policy in the ways suggested here in order to check. I didn't tell him to hunt elsewhere, I told him I'd take the trade-off of not being helped in return for his hunting elsewhere. And, if you read my original post, I was asking if it was a reportable offense - i.e., could I ask a GM to do a check to see if it is indeed AFK scripting. Anyway, I didn't come here to argue, I was just, after a period of a few months, finally becoming annoyed enough to ask if anything could be done.

[dacatchman]

I hunt the same area with these guys and I have to say, they aren't all that annoying. It's just my honest opinion. I'm aware what they're doing but his script seems to be somewhat more intelligent than other script hunters I've encountered (is it so hard to match "also here"??)

Some are unbearable and extremely disruptive, this one, eh not so much. Truth is, scripting to me breaks immersion because it's so obvious, but, it's NOT against policy in most cases (the only person I've ever reported who was running a very aggressive script was at his keyboard, so, no policy violation -- despite how obvious and cheesy it was).

The thing I've ultimately learned is this: people pay to play the game and you gotta let them play their own game. If it's not against rules, no matter how much you disapprove of it, it's one of those "worry about yourself" situations where you gotta just let it go.

Resulting to non-consented PvP (CvC, whatever) is more likely to get you into trouble, and people just end up burning bridges then.

Dreaven is not a bad guy if you ever catch him in mule, it's really not worth starting a feud over.

That's just my humble opinion... live and let live. His scripts really aren't that bad/invasive. And I hunt with two characters in the same location, so I've seen him/them *A LOT*

[Androidpk]

You got swept!

http://i56.tinypic.com/1zoayid.jpg

Good day, Sir!

[Tordane]

Whether or not you like what he's doing, if he's not afk while scripting, he's not doing anything against policy. You're more than welcome to find another area in which to hunt if it bothers you that much. You don't really have any right to tell him he can't hunt what he wants to so long as he isn't breaking policy.

This. Use squelch if your sick of seeing their names run through your room.

[diethx]

I still very much doubt that AFK scripting is not happening, but I don't want to violate policy in the ways suggested here in order to check. I didn't tell him to hunt elsewhere, I told him I'd take the trade-off of not being helped in return for his hunting elsewhere. And, if you read my original post, I was asking if it was a reportable offense - i.e., could I ask a GM to do a check to see if it is indeed AFK scripting. Anyway, I didn't come here to argue, I was just, after a period of a few months, finally becoming annoyed enough to ask if anything could be done.

If you think he's afk scripting, then put in an assist and let the Game Host know. If you've played GS for even the shortest amount of time (and certainly if you found your way here), you should know that's what the assist verb is there for, and that you can report whatever you want. What the GMs do with that info is up to them.

To me, it sounds like you're just upset that some higher level character is intruding on your hunting area while multi-accounting. That's fine, but as I said earlier, if he isn't breaking policy you might want to look into hunting somewhere else if it bothers you that much. He has just as much of a right to hunt there as you do, even if he chooses to MA and to not help you if you're stunned/dead/whatever (even though he's claimed to have helped you in the past, which i'm inclined to believe).

[droit]

Oh, I've definitely killed those guys with 635 while hunting bandits in that area. They just depart immediately and don't make a fuss. Might as well use them for CvC practice.

More lies. Your bandits are what kill me when you just leave them in the area without taking care of them first. A lot of the times when you do stick around to actually kill your bandits and they end up stunning me you'll unstun me and I leave the area. Why would I stick around?


>inc 635

Bochser just arrived.

>You gesture while summoning the spirits of nature to aid you with the Nature's Fury spell...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a half-elven thug.
You close your eyes in a moment of intense concentration, channeling the pure natural power of your surroundings. As you continue to gather the energy, a low thrumming resounds through the area. Suddenly, craggy columns of rock crack and jut up from the ground, savagely assailing everything around you!
The surroundings advance upon a half-elven thug with relentless fury!
CS: +473 - TD: +285 + CvA: -2 + d100: +4 == +190
Warding failed!
A icy stone column emerges right under a half-elven thug!
... 33 points of damage!
... 20 points of damage!
Good blow to right leg!
The half-elven thug is stunned!
... 35 points of damage!
Hard blow to abdomen looks painful!
... 20 points of damage!
Good blow to left leg!
... 20 points of damage!
Darn! Frozen ribs take longer to cook, and broken ones to boot!
The surroundings advance upon a half-elven robber with relentless fury!
CS: +473 - TD: +285 + CvA: 0 + d100: +43 == +231
Warding failed!
A particularly sharp, icy shard of rock buckles into a half-elven robber!
... 41 points of damage!
... 40 points of damage!
Strike to abdomen skewers the half-elven robber quite nicely!

[You have 2 kills remaining.]
The half-elven robber falls to the ground and dies.
The surroundings advance upon an elven thug with relentless fury!
CS: +473 - TD: +289 + CvA: 0 + d100: +87 == +271
Warding failed!
Huge, icy masses of rock rise up from the surface, grinding roughly into an elven thug!
... 49 points of damage!
... 60 points of damage!
Blow to back crushes spinal column.
Talk about no backbone!

[You have 1 kills remaining.]
The elven thug falls to the ground and dies.
The surroundings advance upon Bochser with relentless fury!
CS: +473 - TD: +305 + CvA: +14 + d100: +71 == +253
Warding failed!
Huge, icy masses of rock rise up from the surface, grinding roughly into Bochser!
... 45 points of damage!
... 55 points of damage!
Hard strike removes the right eye and a goodly bit of skull!

* Bochser drops dead at your feet!

The shimmering multicolored sphere fades from around Bochser.
Bochser becomes solid again.
Bochser glances around, looking a bit less confident.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves Bochser.
A luminescent aura fades from around Bochser.
The silvery luminescence fades from around Bochser.
The bright luminescence fades from around Bochser.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around Bochser.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding Bochser suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
Bochser appears somehow different.
Bochser seems a bit less imposing.
As swiftly as the chaos came to be, it recedes again into the surroundings.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)

> * Bochser just bit the dust!

>A wooly mammoth lumbers in!

You say, "Aw crap."

>l[Top of the World, Frozen Tundra]
Snow ripples across plateaus lashed with swirling flurries as far as the eye can see. Through the grey haze, the great lonely mountain sits to the northeast, observing its frozen kingdom in silence. You also see a wooly mammoth, a half-elven thug that appears stunned, a half-elven robber that appears dead and an elven thug that appears dead.
Also here: the body of Bochser who is lying down
Obvious paths: north, northeast, east
>
You sigh.
>
You remove a white flask from in your leather herb kit.
>
Bochser's body decays into compost.

:shrug:

[Stanley Burrell]

Johnny did it.

Nice.

[Merala]

>inc 635

Bochser just arrived.

>You gesture while summoning the spirits of nature to aid you with the Nature's Fury spell...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a half-elven thug.
You close your eyes in a moment of intense concentration, channeling the pure natural power of your surroundings. As you continue to gather the energy, a low thrumming resounds through the area. Suddenly, craggy columns of rock crack and jut up from the ground, savagely assailing everything around you!
The surroundings advance upon a half-elven thug with relentless fury!
CS: +473 - TD: +285 + CvA: -2 + d100: +4 == +190
Warding failed!
A icy stone column emerges right under a half-elven thug!
... 33 points of damage!
... 20 points of damage!
Good blow to right leg!
The half-elven thug is stunned!
... 35 points of damage!
Hard blow to abdomen looks painful!
... 20 points of damage!
Good blow to left leg!
... 20 points of damage!
Darn! Frozen ribs take longer to cook, and broken ones to boot!
The surroundings advance upon a half-elven robber with relentless fury!
CS: +473 - TD: +285 + CvA: 0 + d100: +43 == +231
Warding failed!
A particularly sharp, icy shard of rock buckles into a half-elven robber!
... 41 points of damage!
... 40 points of damage!
Strike to abdomen skewers the half-elven robber quite nicely!

[You have 2 kills remaining.]
The half-elven robber falls to the ground and dies.
The surroundings advance upon an elven thug with relentless fury!
CS: +473 - TD: +289 + CvA: 0 + d100: +87 == +271
Warding failed!
Huge, icy masses of rock rise up from the surface, grinding roughly into an elven thug!
... 49 points of damage!
... 60 points of damage!
Blow to back crushes spinal column.
Talk about no backbone!

[You have 1 kills remaining.]
The elven thug falls to the ground and dies.
The surroundings advance upon Bochser with relentless fury!
CS: +473 - TD: +305 + CvA: +14 + d100: +71 == +253
Warding failed!
Huge, icy masses of rock rise up from the surface, grinding roughly into Bochser!
... 45 points of damage!
... 55 points of damage!
Hard strike removes the right eye and a goodly bit of skull!

* Bochser drops dead at your feet!

The shimmering multicolored sphere fades from around Bochser.
Bochser becomes solid again.
Bochser glances around, looking a bit less confident.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves Bochser.
A luminescent aura fades from around Bochser.
The silvery luminescence fades from around Bochser.
The bright luminescence fades from around Bochser.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around Bochser.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding Bochser suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
Bochser appears somehow different.
Bochser seems a bit less imposing.
As swiftly as the chaos came to be, it recedes again into the surroundings.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)

> * Bochser just bit the dust!

>A wooly mammoth lumbers in!

You say, "Aw crap."

>l[Top of the World, Frozen Tundra]
Snow ripples across plateaus lashed with swirling flurries as far as the eye can see. Through the grey haze, the great lonely mountain sits to the northeast, observing its frozen kingdom in silence. You also see a wooly mammoth, a half-elven thug that appears stunned, a half-elven robber that appears dead and an elven thug that appears dead.
Also here: the body of Bochser who is lying down
Obvious paths: north, northeast, east
>
You sigh.
>
You remove a white flask from in your leather herb kit.
>
Bochser's body decays into compost.

:shrug:


I didn't hit him, he warded me. But I did do the same where he walked by and was hit. I've also swept one of them to see if they got up, but they didn't, and was killed by something or other in the room.

[Drew]

>inc 635

Bochser just arrived.

>You gesture while summoning the spirits of nature to aid you with the Nature's Fury spell...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a half-elven thug.
You close your eyes in a moment of intense concentration, channeling the pure natural power of your surroundings. As you continue to gather the energy, a low thrumming resounds through the area. Suddenly, craggy columns of rock crack and jut up from the ground, savagely assailing everything around you!
The surroundings advance upon a half-elven thug with relentless fury!
CS: +473 - TD: +285 + CvA: -2 + d100: +4 == +190
Warding failed!
A icy stone column emerges right under a half-elven thug!
... 33 points of damage!
... 20 points of damage!
Good blow to right leg!
The half-elven thug is stunned!
... 35 points of damage!
Hard blow to abdomen looks painful!
... 20 points of damage!
Good blow to left leg!
... 20 points of damage!
Darn! Frozen ribs take longer to cook, and broken ones to boot!
The surroundings advance upon a half-elven robber with relentless fury!
CS: +473 - TD: +285 + CvA: 0 + d100: +43 == +231
Warding failed!
A particularly sharp, icy shard of rock buckles into a half-elven robber!
... 41 points of damage!
... 40 points of damage!
Strike to abdomen skewers the half-elven robber quite nicely!

[You have 2 kills remaining.]
The half-elven robber falls to the ground and dies.
The surroundings advance upon an elven thug with relentless fury!
CS: +473 - TD: +289 + CvA: 0 + d100: +87 == +271
Warding failed!
Huge, icy masses of rock rise up from the surface, grinding roughly into an elven thug!
... 49 points of damage!
... 60 points of damage!
Blow to back crushes spinal column.
Talk about no backbone!

[You have 1 kills remaining.]
The elven thug falls to the ground and dies.
The surroundings advance upon Bochser with relentless fury!
CS: +473 - TD: +305 + CvA: +14 + d100: +71 == +253
Warding failed!
Huge, icy masses of rock rise up from the surface, grinding roughly into Bochser!
... 45 points of damage!
... 55 points of damage!
Hard strike removes the right eye and a goodly bit of skull!

* Bochser drops dead at your feet!

The shimmering multicolored sphere fades from around Bochser.
Bochser becomes solid again.
Bochser glances around, looking a bit less confident.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves Bochser.
A luminescent aura fades from around Bochser.
The silvery luminescence fades from around Bochser.
The bright luminescence fades from around Bochser.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around Bochser.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding Bochser suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
Bochser appears somehow different.
Bochser seems a bit less imposing.
As swiftly as the chaos came to be, it recedes again into the surroundings.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)

> * Bochser just bit the dust!

>A wooly mammoth lumbers in!

You say, "Aw crap."

>l[Top of the World, Frozen Tundra]
Snow ripples across plateaus lashed with swirling flurries as far as the eye can see. Through the grey haze, the great lonely mountain sits to the northeast, observing its frozen kingdom in silence. You also see a wooly mammoth, a half-elven thug that appears stunned, a half-elven robber that appears dead and an elven thug that appears dead.
Also here: the body of Bochser who is lying down
Obvious paths: north, northeast, east
>
You sigh.
>
You remove a white flask from in your leather herb kit.
>
Bochser's body decays into compost.

:shrug:


He rolled the dice and guessed you didn't have logs.

http://liveforfilms.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/lex-luthor-wrong.jpg

[Tgo01]

While you may have healed her, Fid has definitely been stunned/prone/dead and watched both Dreaven and Bochser fly by (in fact, only last night she was stunned by a glacei ice maneuver and watched them both go by) - she's only died once on that particular part of the mountain, so saying you've rescued her from death several times is an exaggeration

It was about two weeks ago Fidessa was dead near the trading post and Dreaven brought her back to Icemule and healed her up. But all of that apparently doesn't count because it's not 'on that particular part of the mountain.' And since she's only died once 'on that particular part of the mountain' chances are good that my characters didn't even see her so I think you're exaggerating just a tad bit on this part. Also yes I saw Fidessa was stunned last night but I figured she would be okay. People pass by me all the time while I'm stunned and I don't expect them to stop and help me, I realize that most of the time they are running a movement script and by the time they see my characters stunned (if they even see it) they are already a dozen or two rooms away.


I'll happily take the trade-off of not being healed or rescued by your characters, if you will in turn hunt like-level creatures and be attentive to the game while doing so.

That my only choice?


> * Bochser just bit the dust!

>A wooly mammoth lumbers in!

You say, "Aw crap."

>l[Top of the World, Frozen Tundra]
Snow ripples across plateaus lashed with swirling flurries as far as the eye can see. Through the grey haze, the great lonely mountain sits to the northeast, observing its frozen kingdom in silence. You also see a wooly mammoth, a half-elven thug that appears stunned, a half-elven robber that appears dead and an elven thug that appears dead.
Also here: the body of Bochser who is lying down
Obvious paths: north, northeast, east
>
You sigh.
>
You remove a white flask from in your leather herb kit.
>
Bochser's body decays into compost.

My bad, I know nothing about the ranger spell list and about a week ago a ranger spike thorned one of my characters on purpose so when you said you 635'ed my characters before I had assumed 635 was spike thorn and you too were trying to kill my characters. I've never seen you do that before but I do remember the above log. I didn't make a fuss over it because I realized it was a mistake, mistakes happen. Also note if I really was afk scripting and my script automatically caused me to depart confirm don't you think that would have happened the second my character died? You had time to say 'Aw crap', look, sigh then remove a white flask before my character depart confirmed, that's because I manually typed that in when I saw what happened. It's mostly just your bandits that kill me.

I also think rangers are beginning to turn feral, that's two rangers in this thread admitting they have cast 635 at my characters and that person I mentioned earlier who tried to kill them with spike thorn. Hmm.....


I've also swept one of them to see if they got up, but they didn't, and was killed by something or other in the room.

My script stands my characters up, unless sweep incurs a roundtime (I know nothing about sweep either) and you didn't wait long enough for the roundtime to go by, or as you say a critter killed my character before they could stand up. I wouldn't give yourself too much credit for my character dying though, the glacei still get a lucky death crit to their neck and heads sometimes.

Gray rep Reportable offense? 12-27-2010 03:35 PM I'm going to report you every time I see you hunting in that area.

Sounds good. Maybe after another dozen or so script checks the GM's will just leave me alone.

[phantasm]

You guys are funny.
More lies. Your bandits are what kill me when you just leave them in the area without taking care of them first. A lot of the times when you do stick around to actually kill your bandits and they end up stunning me you'll unstun me and I leave the area. Why would I stick around?


Lies. Also, I hope you get caught AFK scripting. In my opinion, and mind you this is just my opinion. ;bigshot while you watch porn on 2nd monitor = AFK. ;wander while you fill in the blanks = okay.

[Tgo01]

Lies. Also, I hope you get caught AFK scripting. In my opinion, and mind you this is just my opinion. ;bigshot while you watch porn on 2nd monitor = AFK. ;wander while you fill in the blanks = okay.

Yeah...well...like you said that is just your opinion.

[phantasm]

You seem like a real cool guy that would never lie. I hope the GM's never get bored of script checking you.

[Merala]

Perhaps you don't AFK script most of the time, maybe, it's possible. Though I must say it must be difficult to watch two entirely different characters extremely well even with the windows staggered, at the same time. I have difficulty believing that you are there all the time. I would think that if I purposely swept you, you fell, and were killed by a critter you would at least say something to me were you present. Just my opinion.

[diethx]

I've MA'd several characters at once, many, many times. It's not that hard to watch two extremely well.

[Tgo01]

You seem like a real cool guy that would never lie. I hope the GM's never get bored of script checking you.

At first I thought you were being sarcastic but now it sure sounds like you are being hostile. Did I sleep with your mother or something?


I have difficulty believing that you are there all the time. I would think that if I purposely swept you, you fell, and were killed by a critter you would at least say something to me were you present. Just my opinion.

You sweeping my character had nothing to do with him dying. Maybe a very slight chance being prone made my character easier to hit with the glacei shard but most likely he would have died anyways. So why would I care? Also the fact that I don't get bent out of shape and start hunting people down to yell at them proves I'm afk scripting? That is some fancy thinking right there.


I've MA'd several characters at once, many, many times. It's not that hard to watch two extremely well.

Exactly, it's not hard to do at all. Some people play this game with 6+ characters at once, two is nothing.

Neg Reportable offense? 12-28-2010 01:08 AM i will be reporting too, one time they are going to catch you

Go ahead and report me. Maybe after you guys see that my characters aren't banned you will finally be content knowing I'm not afk scripting. I highly doubt it though, sounds like y'all really just hate the fact that I'm scripting, the afk part has nothing to do with it.

[Merala]

I wasn't trying to kill you, in fact, I was very surprised you died. After numerous reports, and not so much as a "We'll look into it," I thought I'd test it out. I didn't get so much as an OOC whisper or any acknowledgement whatsoever really. I think that's a pretty abnormal response. You wouldn't have to "hunt me down," I was standing right there. If I had been trying to kill you, which I wouldn't have wanted to anyway, I would have tried something more lethal than a sweep.

[Tgo01]

I wasn't trying to kill you, in fact, I was very surprised you died. After numerous reports, and not so much as a "We'll look into it," I thought I'd test it out. I didn't get so much as an OOC whisper or any acknowledgement whatsoever really. I think that's a pretty abnormal response. You wouldn't have to "hunt me down," I was standing right there. If I had been trying to kill you, which I wouldn't have wanted to anyway, I would have tried something more lethal than a sweep.

I honestly don't even recall this ever happening. I suppose it's possible you happened to catch me after I had turned my script off and really did go afk and I forgot to move my character back to the lodge, I have done that before. It would actually make sense that this is indeed what happened since you seem to be saying that you sweeping my character caused my script to basically shut down and stop my character from doing anything at all, which a simple sweep would not do since there are critters in the area that knock people down and my script would have stood him up and kept him going.

[Merala]

I doubt your script was shut down, as you were casting at the critter until I swept you, and chances are your script didn't stand you up since you were dead before even the minimum sweep RT would have been up.

I will acknowledge, it's possible that you may be there some of the time, maybe even most of the time, but clearly I've caught you not there. I don't know if you got up to go pee, or hadn't been there all day, but I would imagine in the situation indicated above you would at least acknowledge the fact that I very clearly intentionally swept you which ended in your death were you actually at the computer. Regardless of what is actually happening, or not happening, it seems to me that a lot of people believe you to be AFK hunting at least part time, and you should expect people to report you for it. My advice to you is to be ready for a script check at all times.

[Bobmuhthol]

Maybe I'm not normal but I've completely ignored people running AFK script checks on me when I have and have not been scripting. I don't need to acknowledge someone because they think they can police the game. It's led to GM checks a few times (the best was when Warclaidhm reported me for warrior guild reps at the courtyard and I responded with a REPORT so he wouldn't see my character change behavior) but it's not an issue since they actually have the authority to conduct those checks. It's also really nice to kill people who are attacking/fucking with you thinking that you're AFK.

[Bobmuhthol]

I doubt your script was shut down, as you were casting at the critter until I swept you, and chances are your script didn't stand you up since you were dead before even the minimum sweep RT would have been up.

Wait, are you seriously making the argument that he was AFK scripting because you swept him during combat and he died before the roundtime cleared? You've got to be fucking kidding.

[Sile]

So in summary...

Player A: Player B is Afk Scripting
Player B: No I'm not
Player A: Yes you are
Player B: No I'm not
Player A: Yes you are


Did I miss any important details?

[Tgo01]

I didn't hit him, he warded me. But I did do the same where he walked by and was hit. I've also swept one of them to see if they got up, but they didn't, and was killed by something or other in the room.


I doubt your script was shut down, as you were casting at the critter until I swept you, and chances are your script didn't stand you up since you were dead before even the minimum sweep RT would have been up.

I think you just lost all credibility in this thread.

[Merala]

Wait, are you seriously making the argument that he was AFK scripting because you swept him during combat and he died before the roundtime cleared? You've got to be fucking kidding.

I made the argument that since there was not even so much as an iota of acknowledgement of my attack, he was most likely not there to see it.

[diethx]

I made the argument that since there was not even so much as an iota of acknowledgement of my attack, he was most likely not there to see it.

Or he didn't feel like wasting his time bitching at you for being an asshole and getting him killed. Because he didn't feel like it was worth it.

[Tgo01]

So in summary...

Player A: Player B is Afk Scripting
Player B: No I'm not
Player A: Yes you are
Player B: No I'm not
Player A: Yes you are


Did I miss any important details?

Throw in players C and D accusing B of afk scripting and players E, F and G threatening to report him everytime they see his characters in game and you've got all the details.


My advice to you is to be ready for a script check at all times.

I'm always ready for a script check since I'm scripting but thanks for the advice.

[Merala]

Regardless of whether or not he is actually AFK or not, I don't know. Arguing about it won't change it. He should simply be prepared to be script checked, since clearly I'm not the only one who has considered the possibility that he might be.

[Bobmuhthol]

I made the argument that since there was not even so much as an iota of acknowledgement of my attack, he was most likely not there to see it.

That isn't a valid argument. Nothing forces him to react to you sweeping him. In fact, it makes more sense that he wouldn't react because he is likely more interested in letting his script resume than dealing with conflict.

[diethx]

I think you really have balls thinking that just because the GMs aren't responding to your multiple reports, you have the right to do your own afk script checking.

GMs don't respond to every report of afk scripting. They do check them. I've reported, gotten no response, and seen the object of my report get pulled to the lounge <10 minutes later. Chances are if he hasn't gotten in trouble, he hasn't been afk scripting when you've been reporting him as such.

Leave the policing to the GMs, for fuck's sake.

[Sile]

I think you really have balls thinking that just because the GMs aren't responding to your multiple reports, you have the right to do your own afk script checking.

GMs don't respond to every report of afk scripting. They do check them. I've reported, gotten no response, and seen the object of my report get pulled to the lounge <10 minutes later. Chances are if he hasn't gotten in trouble, he hasn't been afk scripting when you've been reporting him as such.

Leave the policing to the GMs, for fuck's sake.

Hear Hear

[IorakeWarhammer]

http://blog.nj.com/hobokennow/2007/08/mistersnitch.jpg
http://blogitoutb.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/snitchesgetstitches.jpg

[phantasm]

This guy has a good reason to be scripting.
http://www.nature.com/sc/journal/v44/n8/images/3101875f1.jpg

What your doing is this:

http://www.redundancycom.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/fat-guy-on-scooter.jpg

[Fidessa]

It was about two weeks ago Fidessa was dead near the trading post and Dreaven brought her back to Icemule and healed her up. But all of that apparently doesn't count because it's not 'on that particular part of the mountain.'

The time she was killed by someone's bandit? I don't really remember who was there, as there were quite a few, but it's possible that that particular time after Dreaven was done hunting, you were attentive. That doesn't mean you haven't ignored her other times, and I noticed - and as someone who is an empath, and occasionally helpful, it makes less sense when he does ignore her. I also want to point out that it's not the actual helping I care about, it's that helping means you are paying attention.

Regardless, I started this topic because I was wondering if it was something the GMs wanted to know about. As you say, if you are doing nothing wrong, then nothing will happen to you. Or, as someone else pointed out, maybe they won't check at all and nothing will happen to you. It wasn't an attack, it was a question, as you can tell by the title of this thread. You have to admit that your behavior could easily SEEM like AFK scripting, so it's not surprising I noticed and wondered about reporting.

[Tgo01]

It wasn't an attack, it was a question


It could be justified CvC based on this outfit alone:

Mmm hmm.


You have to admit that your behavior could easily SEEM like AFK scripting, so it's not surprising I noticed and wondered about reporting.

If you thought I was afk scripting why not just report me then? You must know afk scripting is against the rules and the GM's aren't going to yell at you for reporting someone for breaking the rules. The fact that you came here to the PC knowing giving out character names isn't against the rules unlike the official forums kind of makes it sound like this thread was a little bit more than 'just asking a question.'

[IorakeWarhammer]

i feel like logging into Deron, stalking tgo01's characters, and pwning anyone who messes with him, as a hired mercenary bodyguard. and yes, if you're capped i can hit you, unless you're FREAKIN ROGANE!! BWAHAHAHA

edit: despite how much i despise his views on politics!

[Fidessa]

Mmm hmm.

If you thought I was afk scripting why not just report me then? You must know afk scripting is against the rules and the GM's aren't going to yell at you for reporting someone for breaking the rules. The fact that you came here to the PC knowing giving out character names isn't against the rules unlike the official forums kind of makes it sound like this thread was a little bit more than 'just asking a question.'

I admit, that wasn't very nice of me to say, and I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Anyway, I don't like to bother GMs if it's not something they would care about (I don't actually think I've used the report feature before), which is why I asked, and I wasn't even going to post your player's names, but I thought it might be something that would help corroborate my story - I was originally going to post this on the officials, but I didn't see a very good folder for it. It wasn't a "bit more" than that. If you want, I can go back through and edit out your PC names.

[Tgo01]

I admit, that wasn't very nice of me to say, and I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Anyway, I don't like to bother GMs if it's not something they would care about (I don't actually think I've used the report feature before), which is why I asked, and I wasn't even going to post your player's names, but I thought it might be something that would help corroborate my story - I was originally going to post this on the officials, but I didn't see a very good folder for it. It wasn't a "bit more" than that. If you want, I can go back through and edit out your PC names.

Nothing you posted here bothers me in the slightest, you can do whatever you want. I just found it funny after all of this you are now claiming you merely only wanted to ask a question. At least man up and be up front about it.

[Fidessa]

Nothing you posted here bothers me in the slightest, you can do whatever you want. I just found it funny after all of this you are now claiming you merely only wanted to ask a question. At least man up and be up front about it.

I have no idea what you want me to "admit" that I haven't already - that I think your behavior is disruptive, and possibly against policy, and that I've considered reporting it but wanted more feedback. I've now received several helpful replies (including yours) and am aware that it is an appropriate use of the report feature (though someone did suggest using assist, instead, it was the voice of dissension, not general opinion). Anyway, I'm glad you're not bothered, so I suppose all is well?

[phantasm]

Grow some fucking balls Fidessa and tell him how you really feel about his lazy scripting ruining your hunting area.

You hope he's not bothered?

This guy is watching netflix while he makes more silvers in an hour than you make in a day.

Every minute he spends in your hunting area with his MA script team running is cheapening you and everything you do.

But thats okay, I hope he's not bothered that you posted something.

[Fidessa]

Grow some fucking balls Fidessa and tell him how you really feel about his lazy scripting ruining your hunting area.

You hope he's not bothered?

This guy is watching netflix while he makes more silvers in an hour than you make in a day.

Every minute he spends in your hunting area with his MA script team running is cheapening you and everything you do.

But thats okay, I hope he's not bothered that you posted something.

I really didn't want to respond to this thread at all, but I felt like he should get a chance to address his problem with me. Now I just want it to die. Besides, he's obviously bothered or he wouldn't have kept posting strawman arguments in defense of his shaky position. I don't care enough about being "right" or having the last say to draw out this stupid argument, I'll just use report next time I see him AFK scripting, and that will be that.

[WRoss]

I've MA'd several characters at once, many, many times. It's not that hard to watch two extremely well.

It's not that hard to filter all your chars into one window.