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zhelas
11-19-2010, 03:07 AM
I decided to go see the midnight showing. It was sold out......
The film was terrible:( It was at least 30 min too long. Large parts of the movie just dragged on and on. I and the people with me kept saying come on already lets go! The film definitely didn't flow well because of bad editing.

Warner Brothers is milking this franchise for all it is worth. I bet they could have combined part 1 and 2 into one movie and it would have been much better.

I am not even sure I want to see part 2 after watching this disaster.

Recommendation: If you REALLY want to see this movie catch a matinee. Don't pay full price for this movie.

Delarock
11-19-2010, 04:18 AM
second.

Also, Hermione is hot.

Mike
11-19-2010, 05:12 AM
It was that bad? I was going tomorrow night.

Lord Orbstar
11-19-2010, 05:46 AM
It was very good. It is a plot vehicle. The first half of the book is all about the characters and the hunt. If u read it you would've known what to expect. The second part will be the movie thatsatisfies the "immediate gratification" crowd.
And who didn't have one tear at least when. Dobby.. I can't bear to go on

Delias
11-19-2010, 06:18 AM
Well, when you get to the 48th part of a series, quality doesn't matter so much... because the people who saw the preceding 47 parts will always come, no matter what they hear.

Seran
11-19-2010, 08:59 AM
It wasn't a huge teenager lovefest like the Half-Blood Prince, was it?

Deathravin
11-19-2010, 09:10 AM
** My post contains spoilers - but if you haven't read the book yet, what are you doing wasting your time reading a forum? **

1) Yes, Emma Watson got insanely hot. - Fucking smoke always covering up the good bits. She cut her hair and is just frustratingly smokin now.
http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/156507d1289590806-funny-strange-random-pics-emma_watson_harry_potter-1thumb.jpghttp://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/156509d1289590816-funny-strange-random-pics-emma_watson_harry_potter-2thumb.jpg
Just hope she goes all Lindsey Lohan... Crazy adds 2 points.

2) http://www.hp-lexicon.org/timelines/calendars/calendar_dh.html
This movie is supposed to drag on and on. They go to Number Twelve, Grimmauld Place (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizworld/places/grimmauld.html) and get a task: get the locket from Umbridge. Then after that they can't destroy it and they don't know what to do or where to go.

Especially while they're all in possession and wearing the locket it actively tries to stop them from inspiration. The only idea they do come up with leads them into a trap. This is supposed to take months - they're hiding, doing nothing from September 2 to December 26th.

Once the portrait of Phineas Nigellus Black (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/phineasnigellus.html) overhears their location and Snape can give HR&R the sword and destroy the locket, then they start getting decent ideas like learning about the Deathly hallows - but after that, they're again doing nothing really productive until March when they get caught and learn that Bellatrix is a little too protective of her Gringotts vault.

I mean that's six solid months of hardly doing anything. It's supposed to be slow and boring and frustrating and bleak and stomach-emptying.



They needed to separate it so they could give us the next movie which is full of constant action since they have tasks. Tasks that mainly happen in a single day. They need to break into Gringotts, which tips off Voldemort and lets Harry see where the next Horcrux is and puts a very short timer on them to get it.


Anyway, I think they left in a lot of the book, and was happy with most of the scenes: Except I guess -

I don't like that they didn't touch on Sirius's house (and Kreacher) belonging to Harry - but I suppose that's okay. I would have liked seeing Kreacher being all nice to Harry with the fake locket around his neck.
I didn't like the snatcher part - yes yes lets run with no hope of getting away and not trying to fight back at all, as if they wouldn't have fought, tried to talk their way out without running, or just apparitated to a pre-discussed safe place (but I did like how Lovegood calls the deatheaters in the movie, it's much more logical).
They also added a bit of sexual tension between Harry and Herminone which ... I could have done without, but to be fair if I were Harry and Ron had just run off, I would have instantly tapped that chick. WTH else am I doing? sitting around in a tent?
I don't like that Dobby wasn't in any of the other movies - we have no feelings toward Dobby, last we saw him we had a proper Dumbledore and it was 5 movies ago.
I don't like that Dobby kills Wormtail, I think it was important that he betrays his master with hesitation so the hand kills him.



But other than that it was very well done, and I think they have built a nice case for Herminone instead of Molly killing Bellatrix, which would be pretty much just as cool and a nice little battle for her.

Deathravin
11-19-2010, 09:44 AM
Personally, I've always thought they should do the entire series as a television show, shooting every scene in the book (around the time it was supposed to happen in the book), saying every line. Doing it so we see them all growing up properly instead of Harry going from 11 to 15 in 2 years.

Gan
11-19-2010, 09:55 AM
Looking forward to seeing it this weekend or first of next week. :)

And yes, Hermoine is smoking hot. She's also attending Brown Univ. for those in that area.

zhelas
11-19-2010, 10:03 AM
Hermoine was hot.

I have read the book. What most of the folks in the theater were complaining about was the extensive amount of time we spent with them camping. I know they were in hiding but after a while most of the crowd were saying okay enough of this already we get the point.

CrystalTears
11-19-2010, 10:05 AM
Hermoine was hot.

I have read the book. What most of the folks in the theater were complaining about was the extensive amount of time we spent with them camping. I know they were in hiding but after a while most of the crowd were saying okay enough of this already we get the point.
But unfortunately at least the first half of the book is mostly them camping and figuring things among themselves, but still necessary for the plot.

Deathravin
11-19-2010, 10:42 AM
But unfortunately at least the first half of the book is mostly them camping and figuring things among themselves, but still necessary for the plot.

Absolutely. You're supposed to really understand why Ron leaves.

Parkbandit
11-19-2010, 10:50 AM
Thank god my kids are now old enough to go to the movies with their friends. This will be the first Harry Potter movie I don't fall asleep to in the theater.

Liberi Fatali
11-19-2010, 10:52 AM
Anyway, I think they left in a lot of the book, and was happy with most of the scenes: Except I guess -

I don't like that they didn't touch on Sirius's house (and Kreacher) belonging to Harry - but I suppose that's okay. I would have liked seeing Kreacher being all nice to Harry with the fake locket around his neck.
I didn't like the snatcher part - yes yes lets run with no hope of getting away and not trying to fight back at all, as if they wouldn't have fought, tried to talk their way out without running, or just apparitated to a pre-discussed safe place (but I did like how Lovegood calls the deatheaters in the movie, it's much more logical).
They also added a bit of sexual tension between Harry and Herminone which ... I could have done without, but to be fair if I were Harry and Ron had just run off, I would have instantly tapped that chick. WTH else am I doing? sitting around in a tent?
I don't like that Dobby wasn't in any of the other movies - we have no feelings toward Dobby, last we saw him we had a proper Dumbledore and it was 5 movies ago.
I don't like that Dobby kills Wormtail, I think it was important that he betrays his master with hesitation so the hand kills him.



But other than that it was very well done, and I think they have built a nice case for Herminone instead of Molly killing Bellatrix, which would be pretty much just as cool and a nice little battle for her.

Okay, I can't remember for the life of me since I read the book last year sometime -- is that how Wormtail dies in the book? By Dobby?

CrystalTears
11-19-2010, 10:59 AM
Okay, I can't remember for the life of me since I read the book last year sometime -- is that how Wormtail dies in the book? By Dobby?
Nope. The silver hand.

Deathravin
11-19-2010, 11:13 AM
Nope. The silver hand.

He hesitates in killing Harry Potter since Harry once saved Wormtail's life. The hand senses the hesitation and strangles Wormtail to death.

CrystalTears
11-19-2010, 11:14 AM
He hesitates in killing Harry Potter since Harry once saved Wormtail's life. The hand senses the hesitation and strangles Wormtail to death.
Dobby is not even in the room when that's happening though.

Deathravin
11-19-2010, 01:00 PM
Dobby is not even in the room when that's happening though.

I re-read it, it does sound strange. I was agreeing with and expanding on your comment, not trying to refute it.

I just think it's an important part of the story, and I would have left it in.

CrystalTears
11-19-2010, 01:07 PM
I re-read it, it does sound strange. I was agreeing with and expanding on your comment, not trying to refute it.

I just think it's an important part of the story, and I would have left it in.
Ah okay. Makes sense now. And now I know what happens in the movie so I won't be all WTF about it.

I understand that not everything can be in the movies when the books are so large, but I really do wish they had given more time to house elves in general. Not that it had to go into Hermoine's elf club, but at least to show more Dobby and Kreacher. Having Dobby kill someone is not what I had in mind.

Gan
11-19-2010, 02:19 PM
Go Dobby!

I'm glad he gets to dust a bad guy.

Deathravin
11-19-2010, 02:26 PM
Dude... What the fuck?

I tend to remember everything I see and hear. It's not eidetic memory, but somewhat similar. Trailers for movies ruin the rest of the movie for me. Especially the last 10 years or so they put the whole damn movie in there.

So I've been trying to avoid trailers for the movie as much as I can, and in fact hadn't seen more than the 'WB' that preceeded and the "Harry Potter" that concluded the trailers before seeing the movie. As it was the first time I'd ever successfully avoided seeing or hearing any part of the trailer I was very happy with myself.

The last two weeks I didn't watch cable TV, only watching shows online.
I would stand outside movie theaters while the previews were going on.
I would quickly leave the lunch room at work if the ESPN they watch in there started a trailer for it.

(note: this isn't unlike how I dodge several trailers for movies I want to see, not something special I do just for this movie)

So now that I've seen the movie, I thought... Great, now I can watch the trailers... I go and I watch the first 20 seconds of the teaser trailer, and BOOM its Harry walking into the forest clearing to face Voldemort... which is in part 2! This is lame.

Do the rest of the trailers have part 2 scenes in them?

Farn
11-19-2010, 03:01 PM
(Spoilers) Yeah, the one I saw had a picture of a partially-destroyed Hogwarts Castle.

Farn
11-19-2010, 03:15 PM
And did Dobby kill Wormtail in the movie? I got the impression he was just stunned/knocked out. Maybe I missed some telltale blood or something. After all, Dobby says a few moments later he's trying to "maim or seriously injure, not kill."

Deathravin
11-19-2010, 03:17 PM
I think the fact I hadn't seen a single scene for this movie is a major part of why I liked it so much.


I've read the books, so it's not like I don't know what happens. But when I see something I remember it pretty much forever.

I remember I saw the 5th movie's trailers (http://www.thewb.com/shows/harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix-trailer-/e303ce61-5166-4a20-b46c-3e7305e5872d) just a few times and I knew that when Dumbledore said, "The evidence the dark lord's return is incontrovertible" and when Sirius said, "Voldemort had HUGE numbers at his command" and when harry retorted, "If Voldemort's building up an army, then I want to fight", they used different takes than they edited into the movie.

When they weren't the same it bugged me... it ruined part of the movie for me, and I was concentrating on the fact it wasn't the same rather than enjoying the movie.

It's not just HP either; Movie trailers have scenes that don't make it into the final movie all the time and it bugs me when it's not there... I mean the fact that I remember a trailer so well after seeing it just once or twice to know that a scene isn't in the movie... It's frustrating.

Deathravin
11-19-2010, 03:18 PM
And did Dobby kill Wormtail in the movie? I got the impression he was just stunned/knocked out. Maybe I missed some telltale blood or something. After all, Dobby says a few moments later he's trying to "maim or seriously injure, not kill."

You have a point. Not sure I guess.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
11-19-2010, 03:22 PM
I'll watch it when both are out on blueray.

CrystalTears
11-19-2010, 03:23 PM
It's not just HP either; Movie trailers have scenes that don't make it into the final movie all the time and it bugs me when it's not there... I mean the fact that I remember a trailer so well after seeing it just once or twice to know that a scene isn't in the movie... It's frustrating.
I agree that this has been happening with trailers. I used to really enjoy trailers, but lately they've been pissing me off. They include scenes that you never see in the movie. They'll even use score music that I KNOW belonged to another movie but thankfully never makes it into the movie. Sometimes the trailer is better than the movie because it shows the best parts and you have to endure the rest of the crap when you get in there. False advertising!

Deathravin
11-19-2010, 03:25 PM
ya, like that HP5 trailer (http://www.thewb.com/shows/harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix/harry-potter-and-the-order-of-the-phoenix-trailer-/e303ce61-5166-4a20-b46c-3e7305e5872d) - I WISH it had that tempo to the movie, that urgency... but the real movie just doesn't.

just reminded me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9pAv-z2ens

Farn
11-19-2010, 03:52 PM
I hate movie trailers these days. They always show you everything that happens in the movie. I miss the days when there were (or at least my memory is telling me there were) custom-made trailers that were made to be trailers rather than just clips of the movie's major plot points. Maybe this was just for animated movies.

Deathravin
11-19-2010, 04:06 PM
http://forum.gsplayers.com/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif Harry Potter and the... (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?p=1200823#post1200823) 11-19-2010 02:40 PM Harry Potter nerd rage has to be the absolute lowest form of rage for a guy. Man up, little bitch.

This coming from a reader of the player-run forums for a 20 year old text-based game RPG/MUD. I think we're all the lowest form of nerds. If I'm the fattest guy at fat camp or the most retarded person in the special Olympics, it doesn't change the fact that you're right here along side me as we miss every single hurdle together.

And the post you chose is more about movie trailer rage in general than Harry Potter specifically.

Lord Orbstar
11-19-2010, 07:43 PM
You won. Die neg. Repper

Drisco
11-19-2010, 11:43 PM
I don't like that they didn't touch on Sirius's house (and Kreacher) belonging to Harry - but I suppose that's okay. I would have liked seeing Kreacher being all nice to Harry with the fake locket around his neck.

I don't like that Dobby wasn't in any of the other movies - we have no feelings toward Dobby, last we saw him we had a proper Dumbledore and it was 5 movies ago.



Did you read the books? Sirius's house belongs to Harry, it was given to him. With that he has ownership of Kreacher. Kreacher also hates harry potter hence the hostility.

Dobby was in the other movies just an FYI. He also saved Harry Potter's life from Draco's father in a previous movie.

Loved the movie.

Warriorbird
11-19-2010, 11:55 PM
Dobby's a fucking action hero.

Delias
11-20-2010, 12:52 AM
I'll watch it when both are out on blueray.

I'll watch it when it is being replayed on a wednesday afternoon on USA network if I've decided to get high and waste the day. Unless I get distracted by a plate of nachos or literally anything that isn't harry twatter.

Back
11-20-2010, 01:20 AM
I'll watch it when it is being replayed on a wednesday afternoon on USA network if I've decided to get high and waste the day. Unless I get distracted by a plate of nachos or literally anything that isn't harry twatter.

ok, predator avatar dude.

just sayin

Delias
11-20-2010, 03:28 AM
ok, predator avatar dude.

just sayin

If you've kept up to date, you'd know that it is not a predator, it is a toothy vagina.

Mighty Nikkisaurus
11-20-2010, 09:54 AM
I saw it and really enjoyed it. I'm EXTREMELY glad they chose to do it in 2 parts.

I felt like some stuff (the opening scene with Hermione, for instance) they did a good job translating into the movie, even if it wasn't exactly that way in the books, because it really set the mood/tone for the rest of the movie. They did that with a few scenes and while normally I think that would bug me, for the most part I get the sense that they cut a lot of stuff that would have made the movie even longer (and very complicated) and rolled it into scenes that weren't in the book but serve the same purpose story-telling wise.

I'm still excited for part 2. I'm really looking forward to seeing Snape's memory, especially.

Drisco
11-20-2010, 12:36 PM
This movie was probably the most accurate book to movie translation out of all the harry potter films or any books for that matter.

It really didn't leave much out!

iJin
11-21-2010, 04:13 AM
OP was high when he made this thread. The movie was very fantastic, and probably my most favorite of them all.

Kuyuk
11-21-2010, 09:31 AM
I mostly enjoyed the movie...

For starters, I had a group of 4 other people planned to go with me, but two bailed (quit his job and was working 18+ hour days, so he and his wife didnt go), then my chica had an upset stomach, and then the fourth person had a presentation at 8am, so bailed... So I ended up giving away four tickets and thus four college kids befriended me - and I'm pretty sure I could have gotten laid from one of the chicks...

Anyway - I would have liked to see more house elf involvement, or development.. I dont think Dobby killed wormtail personally... I didnt care for the hermione/harry love, but felt it was needed for the next scene, of harry facing the thinger regarding it - so I think that's the only reason it is in the movie...

I fully expect the next movie to be a fucking kick ass fightfest.

I liked how they explained the deathly hallows in the movie, because I totally didnt understand it from reading the whole book.

Bobmuhthol
11-21-2010, 09:43 AM
Emma Watson is so retardedly less hot with that hair, wtf

Deathravin
11-21-2010, 09:47 AM
I dunno man, not everybody can pull off that short short hair... And she does it. She is probably #2 or #3 on my list right now. Before the short hair, she was hot but not in my top 20.

Perfectly just my taste though.

I'd do disgusting things for and/or to that girl.

Mighty Nikkisaurus
11-21-2010, 10:21 AM
I didnt care for the hermione/harry love, but felt it was needed for the next scene, of harry facing the thinger regarding it - so I think that's the only reason it is in the movie...

Er, I don't think that was a "love" scene at all. I got the sense that Harry felt really bad for Hermione and wanted to take her mind off things and cheer her up, at least for a little bit. The whole scene was extremely chaste for it to be a 'love' scene. That was one of the scenes I was thinking of when I said it wasn't in the books but it succinctly got a point across (at least to me), being that Harry cared a lot about Hermione but as he would a sister, not a potential girlfriend.

Deathravin
11-21-2010, 10:44 AM
I'm sorry to say this... But two 17 year olds, alone with no supervision in the middle of nowhere staying in a tent for 6 months. Even with (and maybe because of) the stress of the situation.

The chances of them NOT hooking up regularly is pretty much nil in the real world. Good thing it's a story.

Lord Orbstar
11-21-2010, 11:53 AM
You think they got some threesome action going?

Deathravin
11-21-2010, 12:00 PM
Well Ron & Hermione would have been fucking like rabbits (using whatever magical birth control is available), then when Ron left, Hermione and Harry (who had been jerking it 20x a day out of pure boredom and having a hot girlie around) would have started having comfort sex left and right after a few weeks. Especially when it got cold.

Then when Ron returned, they would have started up some 3some action.

Delias
11-21-2010, 04:22 PM
So I ended up giving away four tickets and thus four college kids befriended me - and I'm pretty sure I could have gotten laid from one of the chicks...



Nothing says "Do me" like free movie tickets.

Kuyuk
11-21-2010, 10:22 PM
Er, I don't think that was a "love" scene at all. I got the sense that Harry felt really bad for Hermione and wanted to take her mind off things and cheer her up, at least for a little bit. The whole scene was extremely chaste for it to be a 'love' scene. That was one of the scenes I was thinking of when I said it wasn't in the books but it succinctly got a point across (at least to me), being that Harry cared a lot about Hermione but as he would a sister, not a potential girlfriend.

Eh - I think it could have started as that, but there was a definate pause at the end of dancing with them leaning to kiss, but obviously thought better of it...

While I can agree to some extent, I think there was underlying feelings of him wanting to bury balls deep. Rightfully so.

Mighty Nikkisaurus
11-21-2010, 11:04 PM
Pretty sure you're assigning stupid and pointless sexual frustrations/desires of your own onto characters that've done nothing to demonstrate any remotely similar need.

TL;DR Harry loves Ginny, not Hermione, and at no point is this not clear.

Deathravin
11-22-2010, 07:53 AM
Pretty sure you're assigning stupid and pointless sexual frustrations/desires of your own onto characters that've done nothing to demonstrate any remotely similar need.

TL;DR Harry loves Ginny, not Hermione, and at no point is this not clear.

Well I watched it again Saturday and I'm fairly certain the 6 hours of HP beforehand, the vat of caramel brulee latte I had to drink for my 'sleeping by 9' ass to stay awake until 4am had added some things to my mind.

Firstly, the movie's general malaise doesn't make it a strong candidate to watch a 2nd or 3rd time.

Secondly, while I agree that the dancing scene was purely friendly and platonic in nature, I stick to my opinion that the first half of the movie is one of the least realistic portrayal of teenager emotion in the entire series.



Had he been trapped in a tent, for days, weeks, and months... without end in sight - he mentions in the book he doesn't know if it will take days weeks months or even years to find and destroy the horcruxes... He's in love with a girl who is hundreds of miles away, whom it is dangerous for him to admit even to himself that he loves. He's under threat of imminent death, and his only companion is another girl who is just as depressed and frustrated and bored as he is, whose guy just abandoned his best friend and herself to face even such difficult times alone...

They would have hooked up so fast it would make a writer's keyboard blush.


The Dobby burying chapter is very important to the story and is Harry's right of passage into adulthood. He gets a very sobering lesson and turns instantly from a boy in over his head with selfish and childish pursuits into a man with a much clearer logical understanding, control over emotion and near instant knowledge of the road ahead.

If they had been trapped in the same situation after his burying of Dobby, he probably would have been able to contain himself.