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whiteflash
11-18-2010, 06:56 PM
Read on several places the 'max' HP for different races etc., and did not find the answer to all my questions. Stated maximums through PF for DE's are 120(140 with con bonus?, that part was unclear)

This particular char is a dark elf and with his second rank of combat toughness he gained no further HP. With vigor and 1 rank of combat toughness his health total is 185. Is this the hard cap on health points for a dark elf? The second rank of combat toughness left him with still 185 hit points, with all his other stuff it should of been closer to mid/upper 190's if no cap was in place. Any info would be appreciated.

Sam
11-18-2010, 07:05 PM
there is a +40 cap for enhancive bonuses to max health (including cman toughness).

Androidpk
11-18-2010, 07:07 PM
If I remember correctly the maximum amount of HP you're allowed to have is based off your current CON bonus. Someone will correct me if i'm wrong.

Sam
11-18-2010, 07:09 PM
wait maybe i meant +50

Androidpk
11-18-2010, 07:29 PM
So basically a paladin with vigor can't get all 3 ranks of combat toughness?

Sam
11-18-2010, 07:32 PM
So basically a paladin with vigor can't get all 3 ranks of combat toughness?

Yeah, seems kinda silly, but I guess it makes more sense than a burghal gnome running around with 200+ HP.

edit: anything that makes your health monsterbold will cap at 50.

Jace Solo
11-18-2010, 07:57 PM
Monsterbold?

Archigeek
11-18-2010, 08:06 PM
Monsterbold?

Red, or whatever color monster bold is for you, when you type "health."

On the plus side, you can migrate out of your ranks of toughness as you increase your spell training, and spend those points on something else.

I wasn't aware that toughness fell into the enhancive grouping either... made myself a +19 health fusion orb and a +10 CON one, with the intent of making a set of +24 heath armor. Wonder how useful that will be now.

Bobmuhthol
11-18-2010, 08:22 PM
<<With vigor and 1 rank of combat toughness his health total is 185.>>

I haven't played for years but I'm guessing your CON bonus is +15.

Your character's max base HP is their race base HP + CON bonus, so 120 for DE, +15 for CON, and +50 HP bonus cap.

droit
11-18-2010, 08:33 PM
Just for shits and giggles, the absolute maximum health would be a giantman with 200 base, 35 from CON, another 20 from CON enhancives, plus 50 from max health enhancives, equaling 305.

Stanley Burrell
11-18-2010, 08:44 PM
Just for shits and giggles, the absolute maximum health would be a giantman with 200 base, 35 from CON, another 20 from CON enhancives, plus 50 from max health enhancives, equaling 305.

Would CMAN TOUGH take it a notch up? I think I got highlighted HP when I trained in it, so it might negate maxed out HP enhancement. Not sure.

droit
11-18-2010, 08:48 PM
Would CMAN TOUGH take it a notch up? I think I got highlighted HP when I trained in it, so it might negate maxed out HP enhancement. Not sure.

Combat toughness does indeed count against your +50 max health limit. Brute and I just tested this during EG. It blows.

Androidpk
11-18-2010, 08:58 PM
LAME.

GTG
11-18-2010, 10:22 PM
WEAK

whiteflash
11-18-2010, 10:22 PM
Thanks for the replies all, that answers our questions about where to put those CMAN ranks. Very informative.