weapon speed

[Slamy]

Ok I have two mattocks. One I swing has a 6 second rt and the other a 7 second rt. I have tested it multiple times and there is a difference. What could cause this? The faster one is 6 lbs and the other is 10 lbs. Does weapon weight factor into it? Here are two clips from the same hunt same encumbrance

You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
>
You swing a glistening ora war mattock at a triton combatant!
AS: +507 vs DS: +242 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +50 = +350
... and hit for 104 points of damage!
Tremendous blow crushes skull like a ripe melon.
The triton combatant gurgles once and goes still, a wrathful look on his face.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
>
You swing an oak-hafted veil iron war mattock at a triton radical!
AS: +522 vs DS: +308 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +24 = +276
... and hit for 110 points of damage!
Tremendous blow crushes skull like a ripe melon.
The triton radical collapses, gurgling once with a wrathful look on his face before expiring.
The dully illuminated mantle protecting a triton radical begins to falter, then completely fades away.
A white glow rushes away from a triton radical.
The dull golden nimbus fades from around a triton radical.
The brilliant aura fades away from a triton radical.
The very powerful look leaves a triton radical.
The white light leaves a triton radical.
The warm glow fades from around a triton radical.
A triton radical seems slightly different.
The guiding force leaves a triton radical.
Roundtime: 7 sec.

[WRoss]

Is the ora enhancive?

[Sam]

do they both INSPECT as mattocks?

[Drew]

Yeah the ora could enhance dex/agi, one could be an odd base, or you could be right on the edge of encumbrance. Most likely one is enhancive.

[Slamy]

I'll have it sung too. But when I hold it I don't see a bump in any stats.

[WRoss]

where do you store the weapons?

[Sam]

Someone get to the bottom of this!

[stormcrow]

hum

[Slamy]

ok .. just had it sung too and all they found about it was what I knew. It is temp vhcw with incredible uses. But that is all they saw. I bought this from a shop for 80k to just swing while I was working/not paying to much attention while I hunt so I wouldn't worry about losing my 1x 30 point crit weighted flail. But when I started ambushing with it I noticed 6 sec rt and wondered why I didn't remember mattocks swing so fast. So I dug in my locker and found another mattock and it was the standard 7. I don't have any encumbrance and it inspects as a two hander just like the other one. I keep both weapons in my harness, that free one from that dwarven event like 7 years ago. I'll keep working on it.

[Danical]

edited quote:

hum

original quote:


ok .. just had it sung too and all they found about it was what I knew. It is temp vhcw with incredible uses. But that is all they saw. I bought this from a shop for 80k to just swing while I was working/not paying to much attention while I hunt so I wouldn't worry about losing my 1x 30 point crit weighted flail. But when I started ambushing with it I noticed 6 sec rt and wondered why I didn't remember mattocks swing so fast. So I dug in my locker and found another mattock and it was the standard 7. I don't have any encumbrance and it inspects as a two hander just like the other one. I keep both weapons in my harness, that free one from that dwarven event like 7 years ago. I'll keep working on it.


So, apparently stormcrow is slamy.

[Danical]

Oh, it looks like he tried to cover it by reposting it with Slamy.

YOUR SECRET IS SAFE WITH ME!

[Slamy]

Oh, it looks like he tried to cover it by reposting it with Slamy.

YOUR SECRET IS SAFE WITH ME!

now if you can use that great detective knowledge to help with my question

[Danical]

now if you can use that great detective knowledge to help with my question

IM me around 7 PM pacific and I'll figure it out, provided you're still on teras.

[Latrinsorm]

do they both INSPECT as mattocks?
one could be an odd baseI thought this too, but both hits match a mattock's profile. (The second one looks like it could have been forged, but it matches the mattock's base stats.) Also, the only THWs with higher base roundtimes are the greatsword, battle axe, and claidhmore, and the only ones with lower are the bastard sword, katana, and quarterstaff, none of which are likely to have been called a mattock.

If you are absolutely positive that the encumbrance is the same, I have a novel explanation: veil iron is supposed to drain magical items, so if you had an enhancive to AGI or DEX that was pushing you past a threshold, it is conceivable that wielding the veil iron removes that effect. Try getting naked and testing RT.

[Slamy]

You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
>
You swing a linden-hafted eahnor war mattock at a jungle troll!
AS: +515 vs DS: +129 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +6 = +430
... and hit for 175 points of damage!
Tremendous blow crushes skull like a ripe melon.
The jungle troll falls to the ground as the stillness of death overtakes him.
The deep blue glow leaves a jungle troll.
Roundtime: 7 sec.
R>
A jungle troll just arrived!
R>

>put right in my harn
You put a linden-hafted eahnor war mattock in your leather weapons harness.
>
>get other matt
You remove a glistening ora war mattock from in your leather weapons harness.
>stance off
You are now in an offensive stance.

>ambush

You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
>
You swing a glistening ora war mattock at a jungle troll!
AS: +507 vs DS: +129 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +63 = +479
... and hit for 191 points of damage!
Mighty swing separates head from shoulders.
The jungle troll falls to the ground as the stillness of death overtakes her.
The deep blue glow leaves a jungle troll.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

You carefully inspect your ora war mattock.

After a careful inspection you determine that a glistening ora war mattock requires skill in twohanded weapons to use effectively.

You remember that you registered this item about half a day ago.

It looks like this item has been mainly crafted out of ora.
>weigh matt
You carefully examine the ora war mattock and determine that the weight is about 6 pounds.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
R>assess matt
You assess the mattock for structural weaknesses and strengths.

Careful examination indicates the ora war mattock has a base strength of 75 and a base durability of 175. You also determine the current integrity of the ora war mattock to be at 100.0%.

Checking out the mattock, it looks like it is temporarily very heavily weighted to inflict more critical blows than a normal weapon of its type.

ok put the veil iron one in my locker and found another mattock. Tested them both right after each other. Same thing

[Latrinsorm]

Can you do an encumbrance check in between your shots?

[Latrinsorm]

And also, could you pick up a plain, store-bought mattock? They have them in the cart outside the North Gate.

[Slamy]

You swing a glistening ora war mattock at a jungle troll chieftain!
AS: +507 vs DS: +132 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +69 = +482
... and hit for 202 points of damage!
Brain driven into neck by mammoth downswing!
The troll chieftain snarls his defiance before collapsing and going still.
A jungle troll chieftain seems to lose an aura of confidence.
A jungle troll chieftain seems to lose some dexterity.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
R>
A jungle troll chieftain swings a vine-wrapped rusting bastard sword at you!
You evade the attack by inches!

>encum
You adjust your gear comfortably and feel satisfied that you are not encumbered enough to notice.
>put right in my harn
You put a glistening ora war mattock in your leather weapons harness.
>
A jungle troll chieftain snarls menacingly as she advances!

A jungle troll chieftain swings a vine-wrapped rusting bastard sword at you!
AS: +212 vs DS: +233 with AvD: +13 + d100 roll: +60 = +52
A clean miss.
>ge other matt
You remove a linden-hafted eahnor war mattock from in your leather weapons harness.

You're now aiming at the head of your target when using a ranged weapon, or while ambushing.
>
You swing a linden-hafted eahnor war mattock at a jungle troll chieftain!
AS: +515 vs DS: +132 with AvD: +38 + d100 roll: +28 = +449
... and hit for 183 points of damage!
Tremendous blow crushes skull like a ripe melon.
The troll chieftain snarls her defiance before collapsing and going still.
A jungle troll chieftain seems to lose an aura of confidence.
A jungle troll chieftain seems to lose some dexterity.
Roundtime: 7 sec.
R>encum
You adjust your gear comfortably and feel satisfied that you are not encumbered enough to notice.

Maybe have another bard sing to it? I really can't figure this out

[Slamy]

I had a healer swing this thing at me and it has a 2 second rt difference. Still looking for another bard to sing to it. Who knows?


JR>ambush xxxx right leg
You swing a linden-hafted eahnor war mattock at xxxx!
AS: +69 vs DS: +266 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +65 = -97
A clean miss.
Roundtime: 8 sec.
JR>give matt to xxxx
You offer your eahnor war mattock to xxxx, who has 30 seconds to accept the offer. Click CANCEL to prematurely cancel the offer.
J>
xxxx has accepted your offer and is now holding a linden-hafted eahnor war mattock.
J>
xxxx put a linden-hafted eahnor war mattock in his leather weapons harness.
J>
xxxx removes a glistening ora war mattock from in his leather weapons harness.
J>
xxxx offers you a glistening ora war mattock. Click ACCEPT to accept the offer or DECLINE to decline it. The offer will expire in 30 seconds.
J>acc
You accept xxxx offer and are now holding a glistening ora war mattock.
J>ambush xxxx right leg
You swing a glistening ora war mattock at xxxx!
AS: +65 vs DS: +266 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +18 = -148
A clean miss.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
JR>ambush xxxx right leg
You swing a glistening ora war mattock at xxxx!
AS: +65 vs DS: +266 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +57 = -109
A clean miss.
Roundtime: 6 sec.

[Michaelous]

your all funny? really none of you could figure it out? you better apprectiate my input here cause i dont always like to share my knowledge with everyone, but your ora mattaock swings faster cause its 4 lbs lighter. when your using the other one, its adding 4lbs of encumbrance, which adds to action penalty and although when you type encumbrance you see no diffrence it is increasing a little so that your action penalty is affected.

[Slamy]

Don't think that's it:

You remove a linden-hafted eahnor war mattock from in your leather weapons harness.
s>weigh matt
You carefully examine the eahnor war mattock and determine that the weight is about 6 pounds.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
sR>put matt in harn
You put a linden-hafted eahnor war mattock in your leather weapons harness.
s>get other matt
You remove a glistening ora war mattock from in your leather weapons harness.
s>weigh matt
You carefully examine the ora war mattock and determine that the weight is about 6 pounds.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

[Latrinsorm]

I had a healer swing this thing at me and it has a 2 second rt difference.Well that's just crazy. It must be some kind of -roundtime enhancement, I would guess.

[Jace Solo]

I thought you said one was 6 lbs and one was 10 lbs?

[Sam]

The veil iron one was 10, but he stopped using that one.

[Danical]

I'm available.

[phantasm]

Bards are notoriously bad at getting proper information. Find a good bard and this will be solved.

[Slamy]

Yeah I had it sung to by a top notch bard and nothing new. It's just a wonky item. If anyone else wants to play with it and is on Teras let me know.


Bards are notoriously bad at getting proper information. Find a good bard and this will be solved.

[Drew]

Also, the only THWs with higher base roundtimes are the greatsword, battle axe, and claidhmore, and the only ones with lower are the bastard sword, katana, and quarterstaff, none of which are likely to have been called a mattock.


I own a quarterstaff base named a mattock, so it's possible but not in this case.


I'm still going enhancive, if you could get us your INFO stats and the empath who swung those two mattocks at 8 and 6 seconds it might help us figure that out.

ALSO: Can bards that aren't in col sing bonuses from col only weapons?

[Michaelous]

maybe one has an encumbrance reducing enhancement, there would be no way to tell of course, but thats what i suspect, or has anyone ever seen an encumbrance reducing enhancement since the belt of kai?

[Latrinsorm]

If you could get yourself super encumbered, it would be interesting to see if it is as simple as a flat bonus to roundtime.
I own a quarterstaff base named a mattockFor the sanctity of the universe, throw that shit directly in the well.

[Sam]

This is really bothering me. Can I play with it? I'm on Teras.