Brawling Warrior

[Maraudir]

Hello guys, I'd like to be a TWC Brawling warrior. What skills would I need to train to make it proper? I want to go this route to maximize the Voln Fu I already use a lot of. Thanks.

[Sam]

http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/MOC

Depending on how you hunt, you may want to pick up OHE training as well and use Katars, but that will get a bit costly. Katars are way better than any other the other brawling weapons though.

[Maraudir]

That is my delima. I currently have OHE and use a waraxe but it is really cutting into my skill points. I can only do about 1x in dodge

[Sam]

Any non-standard builds are going to cost ya. If you don't use katars, and instead use fist-scythes or some other pure brawling weapon, you will really need to load up on MoC (which is expensive) or your damage output will make your penis feel quite small.

[Lumi]

Maybe try something like this?



06/06 2x Two Weapon Combat
06/00 2x Armor Use
12/09 2x Combat Maneuvers
06/03 2x Brawling
04/03 1x Multi-Opponent Combat
06/00 2x Physical Fitness
12/06 2x Dodging
00/03 1x Perception

52/30 Total


That should be doable with some conversion. You won't be able to do a damn thing besides fight, but you should be pretty deadly. Get some flaring fist-scythes and go to town.

Edit: If points are too tight, you could drop TWC down to 1.5x and save 2/2 per level. You could also drop perception if you want, I personally hate not having any.

[Donquix]

Maybe try something like this?



06/06 2x Two Weapon Combat
06/00 2x Armor Use
12/09 2x Combat Maneuvers
06/03 2x Brawling
04/03 1x Multi-Opponent Combat
06/00 2x Physical Fitness
12/06 2x Dodging
00/03 1x Perception

52/30 Total


That should be doable with some conversion. You won't be able to do a damn thing besides fight, but you should be pretty deadly. Get some flaring fist-scythes and go to town.

Edit: If points are too tight, you could drop TWC down to 1.5x and save 2/2 per level. You could also drop perception if you want, I personally hate not having any.

Depending on how his stats are placed (growth or not) that's perfectly doable. I did basically the same, but 2x moc 1x dodge.

Warriors can't do shit but fight anyway, so not missing out on much. After I got close to plate armor I left my moc drop a bit and caught armor tripled to get into plate, and am catching it back up now.

[Lumi]

After I got close to plate armor I left my moc drop a bit and caught armor tripled to get into plate, and am catching it back up now.

That's exactly the same plan I came up with for my warrior.

[joehollywood]

Don't drop perception if you're "fu'ing" as well, it's a component of mb

[Lumi]

Don't drop perception if you're "fu'ing" as well, it's a component of mb

True, but it's a really insignificant part. Perception skill/20. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if it had to be dropped. I would rather keep it, of course, but for lots of other reasons as well.

[Donquix]

True, but it's a really insignificant part. Perception skill/20. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if it had to be dropped. I would rather keep it, of course, but for lots of other reasons as well.

I went to 40 ranks and stopped.

[Maraudir]

Thanks for all the feedback. But is the fact of the matter that I will be much more ineffective with just brawl than using OHE and I should just stick to using both?

[Lumi]

You can be perfectly effective with brawling. You're going to want to use fist-scythes, which are comparable to longswords, for bigger hits, or get a pair of flaring, super-fast brawlers (like yierka-spurs) and kill through rapid attrition. With TWC and mstrike, this is very doable.

[Donquix]

Thanks for all the feedback. But is the fact of the matter that I will be much more ineffective with just brawl than using OHE and I should just stick to using both?

I made it to 50ish using sais. You can do perfectly well with brawling.

Will you arguably be more effective with bigger weapons? Probably, but you'll be perfectly fine, if forced to be a little more selective, using smaller brawlers.

Fist scythes will tear most things up. katars are just cheating.

[Maraudir]

Great, thanks for all the input, it is invaluable.

[Maraudir]

Time to resurrect an old post. Well I have been trying the double fist-scythes and have to say I am disappointed. I think I will do the katar method and ditch MoC then? Is that was would be acceptable?

[Lord Orbstar]

use katars and MoC!

Name: Druhj Race: Human Profession: Warrior (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 41 Expr: 1337497 Level: 34
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 87 (23) ... 87 (23)
Constitution (CON): 85 (17) ... 78 (14)
Dexterity (DEX): 91 (20) ... 91 (20)
Agility (AGI): 96 (23) ... 96 (23)
Discipline (DIS): 81 (15) ... 81 (15)
Aura (AUR): 61 (5) ... 61 (5)
Logic (LOG): 84 (22) ... 84 (22)
Intuition (INT): 90 (25) ... 90 (25)
Wisdom (WIS): 65 (7) ... 65 (7)
Influence (INF): 47 (-1) ... 47 (-1)
Mana: 0 Silver: 1019
K>skill
Druhj (at level 34), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Two Weapon Combat..................| 170 70
Armor Use..........................| 180 80
Combat Maneuvers...................| 172 72
Edged Weapons......................| 172 72
Brawling...........................| 172 72
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 105 25
Physical Fitness...................| 173 73
Dodging............................| 160 60
Perception.........................| 105 25
Climbing...........................| 70 15
Training Points: 0 Phy 13 Mnt (382 Mnt converted to Phy)

[Maraudir]

How does this look then?
Elthryn (at level 27), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Two Weapon Combat..................| 156 56
Armor Use..........................| 156 56
Combat Maneuvers...................| 156 56
Edged Weapons......................| 156 56
Brawling...........................| 156 56
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 74 16
Physical Fitness...................| 156 56
Dodging............................| 156 56
Survival...........................| 114 28
Perception.........................| 114 28
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 25 5
First Aid..........................| 114 28
Training Points: 0 Phy 13 Mnt (48 Mnt converted to Phy)