Empathic Assault - 1110

[Traelin]

Can anyone post some logs of using this? I'd like to see it in action and whether or not I should pick up spell aiming on my empath and start using it.

Also, those of you using it, how many transformation, manipulation and telepathy ranks do you have?

Do you like using this spell in conjunction with any other spell such as web bolt?

Is it better to just hunt with Bone Shatter and then worry about spell aiming post cap?

My empath is currently level 60

Thanks

[BriarFox]

You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Empathic Assault...
You gesture at an arctic titan.
You hurl a radiant ball of energy at an arctic titan!
AS: +384 vs DS: +230 with AvD: +28 + d100 roll: +98 = +280
... and hit for 141 points of damage!
Explosive burst wreaths the arctic titan's body in blue flames!
[You have earned 1 prestige point.]
The arctic titan falls to the ground motionless.
As the arctic titan is vanquished, you refrain from infusing the effort further.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.


You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Empathic Assault...
You gesture at a frost giant.
You hurl a radiant ball of energy at a frost giant!
AS: +384 vs DS: +234 with AvD: +44 + d100 roll: +92 = +286
... and hit for 101 points of damage!
Scorching blast causes the bones in the frost giant's hand to expand and burst.
The frost giant is stunned!
Success! Establishing a connection with the frost giant, your awareness of her physical condition expands as your essence fuses with her own!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
You are now in a guarded stance.
>
You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the frost giant...
CS: +334 - TD: +129 + CvA: +19 + d100: +77 == +301
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the frost giant, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 105 points of damage!
>
You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the frost giant...
CS: +334 - TD: +127 + CvA: +19 + d100: +23 == +249
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the frost giant, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 85 points of damage!
>
A frost giant throws her head back and howls, shaking off the stun!
>
You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the frost giant...
CS: +334 - TD: +123 + CvA: +19 + d100: +68 == +298
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the frost giant, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 101 points of damage!
The empathic presence you planted within the frost giant exhausts itself.


You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Empathic Assault...
You gesture at a frost giant.
You hurl a radiant ball of energy at a frost giant!
AS: +384 vs DS: +260 with AvD: +44 + d100 roll: +46 = +214
... and hit for 96 points of damage!
Muscle and bone blasted to pieces by searing wave of energy!
The giant's war hammer falls to the ground.
[You have earned 1 prestige point.]
The frost giant falls to the ground motionless.
The deep blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The light blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The powerful look leaves a frost giant.
As the frost giant is vanquished, you refrain from infusing the effort further.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.


You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Empathic Assault...
You gesture at a frost giant.
You hurl a radiant ball of energy at a frost giant!
AS: +384 vs DS: +205 with AvD: +44 + d100 roll: +49 = +272
... and hit for 99 points of damage!
Immolating blast causes the frost giant's hand to explode.
The giant's war hammer falls to the ground.
The frost giant is stunned!
Success! Establishing a connection with the frost giant, your awareness of her physical condition expands as your essence fuses with her own!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
You are now in a guarded stance.
>
Your heightened awareness of your own defensive weaknesses fades away.
>
You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the frost giant...
CS: +334 - TD: +124 + CvA: +19 + d100: +15 == +244
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the frost giant, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 82 points of damage!
>
Your heightened awareness of your foes fades away.
>
Your mind and body begin to relax after that period of intense focus.
>stance offensive
>incant 1110
>stance guarded
You are now in an offensive stance.
>
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Empathic Assault...
You gesture at a frost giant.
You hurl a radiant ball of energy at a frost giant!
AS: +374 vs DS: +182 with AvD: +44 + d100 roll: +65 = +301
... and hit for 118 points of damage!
Muscle blasted away from the frost giant's arm exposing scorched bone!
Success! Reconnecting with the frost giant, your awareness of her physical condition improves as you reinfuse your essence!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
You are now in a guarded stance.
>
You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the frost giant...
CS: +334 - TD: +119 + CvA: +19 + d100: +89 == +323
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the frost giant, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 112 points of damage!
[You have earned 1 prestige point.]
The frost giant falls to the ground motionless.
The deep blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The light blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The powerful look leaves a frost giant.
The empathic presence you planted within the frost giant exhausts itself.


VS. Boneshatter:


You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
You channel at a frost giant.
You concentrate intently on a frost giant, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward him!
CS: +334 - TD: +135 + CvA: +19 + d100: +39 == +257
The frost giant shudders with severe convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop his body.
The frost giant is crushed for 50 points of damage!
... 50 points of damage!
Massive blow to abdomen!
The frost giant is stunned!
... 35 points of damage!
Strong blow to chest!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>
...wait 3 seconds.
R>stance offensive
>incant 1106
>stance guarded
You are now in an offensive stance.
>
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
You channel at a frost giant.
You concentrate intently on a frost giant, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward him!
CS: +334 - TD: +135 + CvA: +19 + d100: +93 == +311
The frost giant shudders with severe convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop his body.
The frost giant is crushed for 50 points of damage!
... 60 points of damage!
Blow to back crushes spinal column.
Talk about no backbone!
[You have earned 1 prestige point.]
The frost giant falls to the ground motionless.
The deep blue glow leaves a frost giant.
The light blue glow leaves a frost giant.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.



You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
You channel at an arctic titan.
You concentrate intently on an arctic titan, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward it!
CS: +334 - TD: +111 + CvA: +10 + d100: +45 == +278
The arctic titan shudders with severe convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop its body.
The arctic titan is crushed for 50 points of damage!
... 45 points of damage!
Right leg collapses as the bones turn to dust!
An arctic titan screams and falls to the ground with a crash, grasping its mangled right leg!
The arctic titan is stunned!
... 50 points of damage!
Massive blow to back separates vertebrae!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>
...wait 3 seconds.
R>stance offensive
>incant 1106
>stance guarded
You are now in an offensive stance.
>
You focus your thoughts while chanting the mystical phrase for Bone Shatter...
You channel at an arctic titan.
You concentrate intently on an arctic titan, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward it!
CS: +334 - TD: +111 + CvA: +10 + d100: +74 == +307
The arctic titan shudders with severe convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop its body.
The arctic titan is crushed for 50 points of damage!
... 70 points of damage!
Blow to abdomen breaks the arctic titan almost in two!
[You have earned 1 prestige point.]
The arctic titan screams evilly one last time and goes still.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Roundtime: 3 sec.

[Traelin]

So what do you use in your normal hunting situations?

Bone Shatter obviously seems more mana efficient and more effective for less training cost.

Are there situations that arise where you are glad that you are trained for empathic assault?

[BriarFox]

So what do you use in your normal hunting situations?

Bone Shatter obviously seems more mana efficient and more effective for less training cost.

Are there situations that arise where you are glad that you are trained for empathic assault?

CS is only good if you're hunting like-level or below, in most cases, unless you're very picky about your targets. With bolts, I can uphunt 15 levels if I want to. I can also use 117 and such to boost my bolts. As for typical techniques, I usually web bolt the target, then follow up with more 1110, 111, or 1106. I don't use 1115 much. I also use a lot of crystal wands.

[Traelin]

Here is another question I have. How can you determine the amount of ranks of transformation lore you need for your level so that you have 0 hard RT when healing down wounds/scars.

what's the formula for determining this?

[Jace Solo]

http://carabele.com/odds/LoreBenefits.htm

That is all

[Traelin]

http://carabele.com/odds/LoreBenefits.htm

That is all

Yea I'm well aware of the lore chart. But what is the base RT for healing down and how much does level effect it again?

[Asha]

wish you'd have made the target a sorcerer instead of a frost giant.

[BriarFox]

wish you'd have made the target a sorcerer instead of a frost giant.

You can always go read the Marlu threads!

[Kithor]

At cap I use bone Shatter on anything that can be stunned and web bolt + empathic Assault on stuff that can't be stunned but can be webbed (like Ithzir Janisarries and Seers). I rarely use Wither unless I'm trying to kill things fast or if I'm dealing with something that can't be stunned or webbed. Personally I love utility and versatility so spell aiming and summoning lore were must-haves for me.

Lores: 6 Transformation, 40 Telepathy, 55 Manipulation, 180 Summoning (was 1x until 90ish)

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You shoot strands of webbing at a war griffin!
AS: +427 vs DS: +316 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +13 = +157
... and hit for 21 points of damage!
The war griffin's right leg jerks momentarily but snaps right back.
A war griffin is firmly webbed in place.
A war griffin tumbles to the ground!

You hurl a radiant ball of energy at a war griffin!
AS: +427 vs DS: +224 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +37 = +264
... and hit for 86 points of damage!
Shimmering beam of plasma nearly shears the war griffin's neck in two!
The war griffin writhes in agony, its wings flapping fruitlessly as it dies.


You shoot strands of webbing at a war griffin!
AS: +427 vs DS: +332 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +67 = +195
... and hit for 33 points of damage!
Shot to hand spins the war griffin in circles.
A war griffin is firmly webbed in place.
A war griffin tumbles to the ground!

You hurl a radiant ball of energy at a war griffin!
AS: +427 vs DS: +251 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +14 = +214
... and hit for 52 points of damage!
Plasma scorches a hole in the war griffin's weapon arm!
Success! Establishing a connection with the war griffin, your awareness of its physical condition expands as your essence fuses with its own!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the war griffin...
CS: +469 - TD: +389 + CvA: +25 + d100: +41 == +146
Warding failed!
You maintain a strong connection with the war griffin, seizing its circulatory systems and hindering its sensory impulses!
...and cause 40 points of damage!
>You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the war griffin...
CS: +469 - TD: +379 + CvA: +25 + d100: +93 == +208
Warding failed!
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the war griffin, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 67 points of damage!
>You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the war griffin...
CS: +469 - TD: +369 + CvA: +25 + d100: +87 == +212
Warding failed!
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the war griffin, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 67 points of damage!
>You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the war griffin...
CS: +469 - TD: +359 + CvA: +25 + d100: +74 == +209
Warding failed!
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the war griffin, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 65 points of damage!
The war griffin writhes in agony, its wings flapping fruitlessly as it dies.


You shoot strands of webbing at a war griffin!
AS: +427 vs DS: +304 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +32 = +188
... and hit for 37 points of damage!
Oof! Sudden impact knocks the wind out of the war griffin.
A war griffin is firmly webbed in place.
A war griffin tumbles to the ground!

You hurl a radiant ball of energy at a war griffin!
AS: +427 vs DS: +254 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +77 = +274
... and hit for 90 points of damage!
Encasing plasma cremates the war griffin's hand leaving a bloody stump!
The war griffin screeches loudly as it cradles its mangled right claw!
Success! Establishing a connection with the war griffin, your awareness of its physical condition expands as your essence fuses with its own!
You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the war griffin...
CS: +469 - TD: +392 + CvA: +25 + d100: +73 == +175
Warding failed!
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the war griffin, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 51 points of damage!
>You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the war griffin...
CS: +469 - TD: +382 + CvA: +25 + d100: +56 == +168
Warding failed!
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the war griffin, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 49 points of damage!
>You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the war griffin...
CS: +469 - TD: +372 + CvA: +25 + d100: +87 == +209
Warding failed!
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the war griffin, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 67 points of damage!
>You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the war griffin...
CS: +469 - TD: +362 + CvA: +25 + d100: +73 == +205
Warding failed!
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the war griffin, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 66 points of damage!
The war griffin writhes in agony, its wings flapping fruitlessly as it dies.
The empathic presence you planted within the war griffin exhausts itself.


You shoot strands of webbing at a war griffin!
AS: +427 vs DS: +347 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +55 = +168
... and hit for 28 points of damage!
Sprained ankle! The war griffin won't be running soon.
A war griffin is firmly webbed in place.
A war griffin tumbles to the ground!
You hurl a radiant ball of energy at a war griffin!
AS: +427 vs DS: +252 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +8 = +207
... and hit for 45 points of damage!
The war griffin's hand blisters and bleeds from intense heat.
Success! Establishing a connection with the war griffin, your awareness of its physical condition expands as your essence fuses with its own!
>You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the war griffin...
CS: +469 - TD: +395 + CvA: +25 + d100: +93 == +192
Warding failed!
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the war griffin, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 56 points of damage!
>You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the war griffin...
CS: +469 - TD: +385 + CvA: +25 + d100: +80 == +189
Warding failed!
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the war griffin, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 55 points of damage!
>You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the war griffin...
CS: +469 - TD: +375 + CvA: +25 + d100: +47 == +166
Warding failed!
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the war griffin, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 47 points of damage!
>The webs dissolve from around a war griffin.
>You mentally attempt to locate your implanted essence within the war griffin...
CS: +469 - TD: +365 + CvA: +25 + d100: +43 == +172
Warding failed!
You maintain a nearly perfect connection with the war griffin, blocking all sensory impulses to self-sustaining functions!
...and cause 50 points of damage!
The empathic presence you planted within the war griffin exhausts itself.

[Kithor]

For Healing RT the base RT is 10 for minor wounds, 20 for major wounds, 30 for minor scars and 40 for major scars. Every 4 levels and every 3 ranks in Transformation Lore will reduce this by 1 second. The one twist is that only levels above the spell level count towards RT reduction. So at cap your level gives ((100-2)/4) = 24 seconds of RT reduction to 1102 but only ((100-14)/4) = 21 seconds of RT reduction to 1114.

At cap you need 57 ranks in Transformation to have zero healing RT for everything. (highest level healing spell is 14, so 86 levels toward RT reduction = 21.5 seconds (rounded down unfortunately) which leaves 19 seconds left for lore to take care of for major scars.

Edit:
At level 60 you get ((60-14)/4) = 11 seconds off from your level, so you'd need (29*3) = 87 Tranformation ranks to have no RT on all major scars. At 62 you'd need 84 ranks, and every 4 levels after that you'd need 3 fewer ranks.
I only really cared about RT for wounds when I was levelling up, for major wounds you get ((60-5)/4) = 13 seconds off from your level, which means you only need (7*3) = 21 ranks Tranformation to have no RT for healing wounds.

[Asile]

I don't have logs to show of Empathic Assault vs Bone Shatter, but IMHO, you'd be crazy as an Empath at 60 not to have Spell Aiming.

1) There are times when you just need a bolt of plasma. Five ranks of Telepathy for a 2nd CS attack is easy enough to manage, and right now Traiva's working on getting up to 15 (I think) for the 3rd CS attack.

2) Sometimes you want or need a ball of fire, as in Fire Spirit. This is especially true when you've got a crowd of things trying to kill you, all the better if they're very susceptible to fire attacks.

3) For those stupid stone critters or things that won't stun with Bone Shatter, the green coral wands are awesomeness. Traiva's use of them finally started to die down when she hit 68 and moved into the Krag Slopes. (Which means that I've got a bunch of varying fullness that I may be persuaded to sell as a lot for fairly cheap.)

4) Spell Aiming, so you can use Empathic Assault and Fire Spirit and the wizard-type wands, gives you more versatility and therefore more options to choose from to kill your foe.

You can't half-ass SA, though: 2x, or not at all.

[Kithor]

... right now Traiva's working on getting up to 15 (I think) for the 3rd CS attack.

The extra CS cycles are at 5, 20, and 40. (and supposedly 65 and 100 according to Carabell's chart, but I doubt anyone's gone up that high)

[Asile]

The extra CS cycles are at 5, 20, and 40. (and supposedly 65 and 100 according to Carabell's chart, but I doubt anyone's gone up that high)

Ok, it's 20 I'm working toward. Whatever that magic number is for the 3rd CS cycle that makes Wizards (one, anyway) jealous ;)

[phantasm]

well at least he is only jealous for the short period before you run out of mana.

[crb]

additionally, there is probably no better spell in game for dealing with flying creatures that don't stun (which is most of them) than web bolt. That alone should make spell aiming (and summoning lore) worth it for anyone who wants to get to high levels.

[Nilandia]

Empathic assault was my bread-and-butter spell for several creatures I hunted in the 20's-40's range that either didn't have bones or were more mana efficient to kill with it. I also made liberal use of wands when hunting Kiramon in my 40's, but their skins, gems and alchemy drops more than paid for my pawnshop raids. As Virilneus said, web bolt is a fantastic spell. I use it all the time to neutralize a critter while I kill it or move on to others in the room. I can't recommend it enough.

Gretchen

[Traelin]

Thank you everyone for the input.