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Ben
04-15-2004, 07:09 PM
Take this elsewhere, Ben.

You have AIM, use it.

[Edited on 4-15-2004 by Weedmage Princess]

Celexei
04-15-2004, 07:13 PM
no offense hun....well i won't say it...just not my style

Celexei
04-15-2004, 07:15 PM
okay i'm gonna have to comment...this song is by far one of the worst i've ever heard

the line :*quote removed. offensive.*...i'm sorry i'm not into the whole neo-nazy BS....oh great now we have german nazi speech with them talking about the furrier (fuhrer but furriers better) and ze hail....that song is pure trash and no one go salutin Dakris either!

[Edited on 4-16-2004 by HarmNone]

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:16 PM
....

Ben wins.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:17 PM
http://www.arnocorps.com

They're all good.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 07:17 PM
fuck that.....damn nazi's

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:18 PM
Damn Christians and Jews and Protestants and Unitarians and Americans...

I can insult you for your beliefs, too.

Latrinsorm
04-15-2004, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Damn Christians and Jews and Protestants and Unitarians and Americans...

I can insult you for your beliefs, too. Nazi is a political party.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:23 PM
I'm aware what a Nazi is.

I just brought up examples quickly.

I can refer to whatever you want. I can still make fun of you for it.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 07:23 PM
i'm pagan and ya can insult me for whatever you wish....but i believe in harming non and living life to the fullest enjoyment in unity with nature and ones self.....and the killing, lets make that brutal slaughterings of millions of innocent people because of there beliefs, appearance, race, whatever the supposed hangup is wrong with any sane person or religion.

Artha
04-15-2004, 07:24 PM
I'm Amish...bring it on, Bob.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:24 PM
Fucking Pagan.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 07:25 PM
thats your choice then...i can't change your opinion but i may pass my own judgement on whatever your own beliefs are your an abomination to them.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:27 PM
Here's my judgement, then: Everyone needs to take suicide pills to end the human race and make the world good again.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 07:33 PM
Suicide's not the way either...everyone needs to learn to live happily together...realize that the truth is WE REALLY ARE EQUAL...we all have the same capabilities...all the same features..eyes toes ears mouth nose etc. but in all that we are all unique. Uniqueness is not something in which basis of discrimination is justified.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:34 PM
We are not equal.

At all.

Pagan.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 07:35 PM
in your own mind set....but equality is to be found within each individual. like i said...we are equal but unique.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:38 PM
Equality is to be found when everyone is equally removed from society.

ie. Everyone takes suicide pills and makes the world good again.

Latrinsorm
04-15-2004, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
I'm aware what a Nazi is. ... I can refer to whatever you want. I can still make fun of you for it.
I can insult you for your beliefs, too. Being a Nazi isn't a belief any more than being a Republican is. :P

Also, silly Pagans. Hee hee. :D

Mint
04-15-2004, 07:42 PM
Bob's a Nazi? Or am I just reading too fast again.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:43 PM
Belief = *Nope. Not even in a locked thread! Not U2Uing on this one. You know better already!*
I'm sorry that I don't use correct terminology when speaking to people who have no idea what they're talking about.

[Edited on 4-16-2004 by HarmNone]

Celexei
04-15-2004, 07:45 PM
Bob is what he is....but seems close minded to me.

Skirmisher
04-15-2004, 07:48 PM
Bob just is looking to irk Celexei is all.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 07:49 PM
sounds fair to me

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:49 PM
I'm a bit more open-minded than you, as I'm not the one discriminating against Nazis.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:50 PM
<<Bob's a Nazi?>>

I'm as Nazi as I am Jewish.

HINT: Not at all.

Ben
04-15-2004, 07:51 PM
I guess no ones allowed to talk about South Park either.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:55 PM
:socool:

I enjoyed the song, if that means anything.

Particularly the previously mentioned *Nope. Not here, either*line.

[Edited on 4-16-2004 by HarmNone]

Celexei
04-15-2004, 07:55 PM
yes i am close minded to the Nazi movement....but thats because the beliefs support open killing of innocent peoples. Give me a justification for why the Nazi's where in the right at all....any ONE reason of why they were right....logically, ethically, morally there is no answer....one should be able to live life without the fear of death apon them...

Ben
04-15-2004, 07:56 PM
Pagans kill babies.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 07:57 PM
once again....you have no clue what your talking about

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:57 PM
As Latrinsorm already pointed out, Nazi is a political party.

Nazis don't kill people; murderers do.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 07:58 PM
a political party made up of Euthanizing murderers

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 07:59 PM
Socialist party, thx.

Ben
04-15-2004, 08:00 PM
Hitler's AS was like 6000000

Celexei
04-15-2004, 08:01 PM
Facist party actually....

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 08:02 PM
1. Fascist.
2. Socialist party.
3. Ben is right.

Mint
04-15-2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
<<Bob's a Nazi?>>

I'm as Nazi as I am Jewish.

HINT: Not at all.

I knew that. Just like poking the rattler occasionally.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 08:04 PM
Facist and Socialists are completly different by the way...study up on your government...just because the people are controlled with pure and total jurisdiction by the leaders there are total differances between them.

Ben
04-15-2004, 08:04 PM
"Nazi" = National Socialist

Celexei
04-15-2004, 08:06 PM
being in name and then beeing in action are two different things... the Nazi regime was set up as a Facist dictatorship even if it was a claimed Socialist party...look at the actions.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 08:06 PM
Yeah, Nazi = National Socialist German Workers' Party or something.

And how is that fascist?

Latrinsorm
04-15-2004, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Belief = *Not even in a quote*/quote][quote]Originally posted by Celexei
a political party made up of Euthanizing murderersI guess every Democrat likes setting Japanese people on fire, too, because it was under a Democrat that we firebombed Tokyo all to hell and back.

No wait, you're both dumz0r.
Originally posted by Ben
Hitler's AS was like 6000000Who says Hitler can't make for good humor material. :lol:

[Edited on 4-16-2004 by HarmNone]

Ben
04-15-2004, 08:06 PM
Na·zi ( P ) Pronunciation Key (näts, nt-)
n. pl. Na·zis

1. A member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, founded in Germany in 1

Artha
04-15-2004, 08:07 PM
Facist party actually....

NAZI = Nationalsozialistische deutsche Arbeiter-Partei = National Socialist German Worker's Party.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 08:08 PM
The term Nazi is used to describe fascists.

This is inaccurate, as the Nazi party is a socialist party, regardless of what you want to believe.

Republicans are now Communists because I said so. LOOK AT THE ACTIONS.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Latrinsorm
a political party made up of Euthanizing murderersI guess every Democrat likes setting Japanese people on fire, too, because it was under a Democrat that we firebombed Tokyo all to hell and back.

[/quote]

I never said i agreed with U.S. policies during WWII either...we have our flaws as a nation as does any...but we don't go around flaunting and writings songs about it either

Ben
04-15-2004, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Who says Hitler can't make for good humor material. :lol:


http://vile.databurn.net/HitlerLOLZ.gif

GSTamral
04-15-2004, 08:10 PM
It appears Ben is still under the belief that society should take care of him and make him live comfortably because he is simply too stupid to get a real job.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 08:11 PM
i'm pretty sure i know what Nazi stands for...I'm a history major...but even though the Nazi party started out with plans blindfolded from the public...set in there so called socialist views, which if implemented without abuse (never been done) could be a good plan for some countries that have drastic problems....even though it was cloaked as a socialist party....the basis of its actions where purely facist.

Latrinsorm
04-15-2004, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Celexei
I never said i agreed with U.S. policies during WWII either...we have our flaws as a nation as does any...but we don't go around flaunting and writings songs about it either You keep tabs on every person who voted Nazi? You don't think there's Americans who go around creaming their pants thinking about Japanese children burning to death?

GSLeloo
04-15-2004, 08:12 PM
...Ben posts here? I would've guessed he would've been banned by now for his racist attacks. Now we truly need an ignore poster button, just to safeguard the intelligence of everyone else from the extreme ignorance he exudes.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 08:13 PM
You'd think a history major wouldn't suck at history.

And be able to spell fascist correctly, even after being corrected to begin with.

OR POSSIBLY: understand wtf they're talking about.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 08:13 PM
oh i no doubt...and am certain that this happens...but how many songs do you here that openly express these views....if they exist hey i'm going against that too...i'm not about murder of anyone or any living thing i'm pointing out the fact that this one song seemed to express nazi views and that those views in my opinion are sadistic and perverted.

Ben
04-15-2004, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by GSTamral
It appears Ben is still under the belief that society should take care of him and make him live comfortably because he is simply too stupid to get a real job.


Meet me behind the football field after detention.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 08:13 PM
<<Ben posts here?>>

He has since June 3, 2003.

And your post sucked.

GSTamral
04-15-2004, 08:14 PM
Coming to Bookstores near you very soon!!!

"Jobless Wunderkind: The life story of the stupid, ignorant, and penniless drunk, Ben"

pre-order your copy today! At bookburning's everywhere May 12!

GSLeloo
04-15-2004, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Celexei
i'm pretty sure i know what Nazi stands for...I'm a history major...but even though the Nazi party started out with plans blindfolded from the public...set in there so called socialist views, which if implemented without abuse (never been done) could be a good plan for some countries that have drastic problems....even though it was cloaked as a socialist party....the basis of its actions where purely facist.

The Nazi's were chickens. Look at their T-4 Program. They essentially copied it from the American eugenics program that was occuring before them. As the quote goes "The Nazis were a lot, original isn't one of them"

In America they did Eugenics publically, no they weren't sick bastards that killed handicapped children but they did sterilize them and criminals and alcoholics. The Nazi's were chickens and did their program in complete secrecy simply because they knew what they were doing was wrong and it would be protested. They were expert liars because even they knew they were wrong.

Celexei
04-15-2004, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
You'd think a history major wouldn't suck at history.

And be able to spell fascist correctly, even after being corrected to begin with.

OR POSSIBLY: understand wtf they're talking about.

oh i'm very sorry bob...can i help it that i'm not paying much attention to my key strokes...i'm rather heated in this debate expressing my views, i'm so sorry bob i'll slow down to satisfy your purities of never missing a key stroke.

Ben
04-15-2004, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Celexei
oh i no doubt...and am certain that this happens...but how many songs do you here that openly express these views....if they exist hey i'm going against that too...i'm not about murder of anyone or any living thing i'm pointing out the fact that this one song seemed to express nazi views and that those views in my opinion are sadistic and perverted.



See Communism and "Rage Against the Machine".
Communist leaders killed a hell of alot more people than Nazis.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 08:15 PM
<<and that those views in my opinion are sadistic and perverted.>>

So your opinion is that you decide what's right and wrong? Way to be.

GSLeloo
04-15-2004, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
<<Ben posts here?>>

He has since June 3, 2003.

And your post sucked.

There is a lot I could say to Ben but that all came from his actions on Klaive's boards and so I will not bring it here. I will not tolerate an ignorant racist (the words should be interchangeable).

Ben
04-15-2004, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by GSTamral
Coming to Bookstores near you very soon!!!

"Jobless Wunderkind: The life story of the stupid, ignorant, and penniless drunk, Ben"

pre-order your copy today! At bookburning's everywhere May 12!


I'm sorry. You know me personally?

Celexei
04-15-2004, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
<<and that those views in my opinion are sadistic and perverted.>>

So your opinion is that you decide what's right and wrong? Way to be.

It is my opinion to decide what is right and wrong in my mind based apon my ethics and morals...it is also my right to express those opinions openly as you've expressed your opinions that i deem to be sadistic and perverse....

GSLeloo
04-15-2004, 08:18 PM
Not much to know is there? Racist ignorant man that attacks others simply because he refuses to believe that people are all the same.

I judge people based on the individual, not on the group they were born into. I actually use my brain to see what they are like rather than simply going "Oh he's black so let's hate him cause I'm too stupid to look further"

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 08:18 PM
<<i'm so sorry bob i'll slow down to satisfy your purities of never missing a key stroke.>>

It's a matter of you NEVER spelling it correctly.

I attribute this to not knowing how to spell it, not magically missing the same keystroke every time you attempt to type it.

If the Nazis were chickens, then chickens make some pretty fucking good leaders.

Tsa`ah
04-15-2004, 08:18 PM
This thread has no topic and the current antics of Bob and Ben have it two posts away from being locked.

Wind it up already.

This thread has been closed and will only be re-opened when this folder's mod(s) or an Admin decide otherwise.

[Edited on 4-16-2004 by Tsa`ah]

GSTamral
04-15-2004, 08:19 PM
No, Bob, people do decide for themselves what is right, and what is wrong. Had you taken a class in Psychology, or even in Political Science, you would know that this is the father of what is scientifically known as the "evils of self determination", which is part of the study of Erickson's developmental stages.

You Bob, really don't know much about anything, yet you comment on other people's beliefs as though you are the one source of fact. Anything you say on that matter is nothing more than the pot calling the kettle black.

Bobmuhthol
04-15-2004, 08:19 PM
<<I actually use my brain to see what they are like rather than simply going "Oh he's black so let's hate him cause I'm too stupid to look further">>

Yet you're discriminating against Nazis for the fact they belong to the Nazi party.

Hypocrite.

Mint
04-15-2004, 08:19 PM
Title of this thread should be changed. I keep thinking it is actually about music.

Snapp
04-15-2004, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Worst. Mod. Ever.

Yeah, Weedie's a horrible mod for enforcing TOS! :rolleyes:

Ben
04-15-2004, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by GSTamral
No, Bob, people do decide for themselves what is right, and what is wrong.


But I'm wrong because I'm not politically correct.

Skirmisher
04-15-2004, 08:21 PM
Bob, cut the silly semantics.

Clelxei, he is just baiting you again and again, stop taking the bait and this thread will die the quick death it deserves.

GSLeloo
04-15-2004, 08:21 PM
To understand Germany's actions during that time period we had to study a lot of other things... such as cults. And how cults have a strong leader that manipulates his people to follow him. We also studied how Germany was in such a bad shape and how Hitler manipulated those people every step of the way. He was a good leader because he knew how to use his people and how to silence his opposition.

The first concentration camp was for his political opponents, the communists.