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Delias
09-29-2010, 06:03 AM
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/867332--prostitution-laws-struck-down


A Toronto judge has struck down Canada’s prostitution laws, saying provisions meant to protect women and residential neighbourhoods are endangering sex workers’ lives.

If Justice Susan Himel’s decision stands, prostitutes will be able to communicate freely with customers on the street, conduct business in their homes or brothels and hire bodyguards and accountants without exposing them to the risk of criminal sanctions.

The Superior Court judge suspended her ruling from taking effect for 30 days to give the government time to consider how to address potential consequences, including the emergence of unlicensed brothels.

Justice Minister Rob Nicholson said the federal government is “very concerned” and is seriously considering an appeal of the 131-page ruling.

Alan Young, a lawyer at the forefront of the landmark legal challenge, said it is too early to say whether Tuesday’s decision could open the door to Canada going “the way of Germany with five-storey brothels.”

But to his client, Terri-Jean Bedford, a dominatrix who was convicted in 1998 of keeping a common bawdy house, it was “emancipation day.”

“How am I going to celebrate? I’m going to spank some ass,” Bedford, cracking a riding whip, told reporters.

Bedford and prostitutes Valerie Scott and Amy Lebovitch took on the legal might of the federal and provincial governments, their battle waged on a shoestring legal aid budget and the volunteer services of expert witnesses and lawyers.

Scott said the decision means sex workers no longer have to “worry about being raped, robbed or murdered.”

Himel found Criminal Code prohibitions against keeping a common bawdy house, living on the avails of prostitution and communicating for the purposes of the trade violated the women’s Charter rights to freedom of expression and security of the person.

Rather than making prostitution itself illegal, the federal government has attempted to curtail the trade by criminalizing related activities.

Bedford, Scott and Lebovitch argued those prohibitions prevented them from conducting their business in the safety of their homes or brothels and forced them into hasty street conversations with potential customers, with no time to weed out those who might be dangerous.

Federal lawyers maintained that prostitution is inherently risky whether it is practised indoors or outdoors and that decriminalizing it would be out of sync with the moral values of most Canadians.

But Himel said the Criminal Code prohibitions were overly broad.

While the prohibition against living on the avails of prostitution is meant to target pimps and stop the exploitation of women, Himel said it prevents prostitutes from legally hiring bodyguards, drivers and other security personnel.

“The law presents them with a perverse choice,” she said. “The applicants can safeguard their security, but only at the expense of another’s liberty.”

Many prostitutes already work out of their homes and complaints about nuisances arising from indoor prostitution are rare, Himel added.

Yet the Criminal Code prohibitions against keeping a common bawdy house deprive them of the safety benefits of working in familiar surroundings with security systems, she said.

While a somewhat similar legal challenge to the Criminal Code’s prostitution provisions was dismissed by the Supreme Court of Canada in 1990, Young said the stage was set for reconsidering the issues when sex workers began disappearing from Vancouver’s downtown east side and pig farmer Robert Pickton was charged with their murders.

“In 2002, when they began digging up bodies on the pig farm,” he said, “it became obvious to every Canadian that it’s very dangerous for sex workers to be on the streets.”

Young suggested the decision could open the door to a new election issue, as Toronto and other municipalities consider whether to follow the leads of New Zealand, Germany, the Netherlands and parts of Australia and Nevada and introduce municipally based licensing of prostitution.

Scott said sex workers want to work with municipalities and be responsible business owners and neighbours.

Citizens shouldn’t worry about a brothel opening up next door, she added.

“There is no reason to be afraid. Lightening bolts won’t hit the sidewalk,” said Scott. “There won’t be frogs all over.”

With files from Richard J. Brennan

Deciphering the decision

Q: Does the decision apply across Canada?

A: The ruling, which was made by an Ontario Superior Court judge, is binding only in Ontario.

Q: When does it take effect?

A: After 30 days, unless the federal government can persuade a court to suspend the ruling for a longer period.

Q: What does the ruling allow sex workers to do that they previously couldn’t?

A: They can work indoors without fear of being charged with operating a common bawdy house. They can also engage in conversations with customers on the street, as long as they are not impeding traffic or harassing pedestrians. And they can hire accountants, drivers and bodyguards without exposing them to the possibility of being charged with living on the avails of prostitution.

Q: Does this mean a brothel can open up in my neighbourhood?

A: It’s possible, although unlikely. Other laws will probably come into play here. There are other ways for prostitution to be regulated outside of the Criminal Code, including municipal zoning. A residential area could be zoned to prohibit any kind of commercial enterprise, including sex work, for instance.

Q: Will I see more men and women working the streets?

A: Maybe, although prostitutes are likely to stick to their usual areas. Sex workers go where their clients are. They aren’t likely to work a corner in the suburbs, for example, because people seeking street-level prostitutes tend to go to the city.

Q: Will prostitutes be safer now?

A: Most sex workers believe so, but some experts fear that if demand for prostitutes surges, there could be an increase in human trafficking.

Q: Is this really what the Canadian public wants?

A: An Angus Reid poll conducted when this case first went to trial in 2009 suggested that half of Canadians would decriminalize prostitution, so long as it was between adults and consensual. Some say the court is just catching up to public sentiment. Others say Canadians might be loathe to accept reforms that come down in a Toronto courtroom.

By Nicki Thomas. Compiled from interviews with Brenda Cossman, law professor at the University of Toronto and expert on sexuality and the law; Christine Bruckert, criminology professor at the University of Ottawa and former sex worker; and Janine Benedet, associate law professor at the University of British Columbia and member of the Abolition Coalition, a group seeking the abolition of prostitution.

Sweets
09-29-2010, 07:20 AM
Yeah we rock. Canada, here for all your sex, drug and non-drafting needs.

Delias
09-29-2010, 07:21 AM
Yeah we rock. Canada, here for all your sex, drug and non-drafting needs.

If only I had the money to pay for sex, drugs, and a draft that needed dodging.

Gan
09-29-2010, 08:03 AM
“How am I going to celebrate? I’m going to spank some ass,” Bedford, cracking a riding whip, told reporters.

Awesome.

radamanthys
09-29-2010, 10:34 AM
I'm a big fan of this.

4a6c1
09-29-2010, 10:40 AM
Haha Gan quoted what I was gonna quote!

Paradii
09-29-2010, 10:42 AM
After running a standard null-hypothesis test, this will not significantly change my life.

Delias
09-29-2010, 12:02 PM
After running a standard null-hypothesis test, this will not significantly change my life.

Well I guess it ruins my perfect record of only posting life altering information.

ElvenFury
09-29-2010, 12:26 PM
Awesome.
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/091007/GAL-09Oct07-2750/media/PHO-09Oct07-180878.jpg

That's her on the left.

...still awesome?

Bobmuhthol
09-29-2010, 12:29 PM
Yes.

g++
09-29-2010, 12:41 PM
I think legalizing prostitution will likely be the death blow for the 45 year old dominatrix industry in Canada. Shes pretty much the ramen noodles of sex workers in a free competitive market.

diethx
09-29-2010, 01:00 PM
Yeah we rock. Canada, here for all your sex, drug and non-drafting needs.

Don't forget Canadian HGTV shows. Where would we be without Mike Holmes and Sandra Rinomato! (the fucked up part is that i'm not kidding, I love those shows.)

Kimberly Hart
09-29-2010, 01:41 PM
Mike Holmes came to the race track where I work last Saturday for the NASCAR (CASCAR) event. Nice guy.

diethx
09-29-2010, 01:55 PM
Mike Holmes came to the race track where I work last Saturday for the NASCAR (CASCAR) event. Nice guy.

He seems like one, it's nice to hear he actually is when the cameras aren't rolling.

Tea & Strumpets
09-29-2010, 03:53 PM
Don't forget Canadian HGTV shows. Where would we be without Mike Holmes and Sandra Rinomato! (the fucked up part is that i'm not kidding, I love those shows.)

No. SCTV should be the only reference to Canadian TV, and that's because there were reruns on PBS when I was growing up and it made me laugh.

Take off you hoser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USRfZluplJA&feature=related

pabstblueribbon
09-29-2010, 05:58 PM
This made the first page in the Toronto newspaper, whatever the fuck its called, EH?

I was having coffee in the lobby of the hotel and I had to do a double take.

Drisco
10-03-2010, 07:39 PM
Honestly I'm beginning to wonder if Canada can get any more awesome. Is it possible?

Tisket
10-03-2010, 07:45 PM
I think legalizing prostitution will likely be the death blow for the 45 year old dominatrix industry in Canada. Shes pretty much the ramen noodles of sex workers in a free competitive market.

Yeah, because there's sure to be a mad rush of women clamoring to become prostitutes now that it's legal and all.

Delias
10-03-2010, 07:46 PM
Yeah, because there's sure to be a mad rush of women clamoring to become prostitutes now that it's legal and all.

My point is that making it legal is really the first step towards regulation,which cuts down on disease and dead hookers everywhere.

Tisket
10-03-2010, 07:47 PM
My point is that making it legal is really the first step towards regulation,which cuts down on disease and dead hookers everywhere.

I didn't quote you. Unless g++ is your alt?

Delias
10-03-2010, 07:48 PM
Quoted or not, I feel the freedom to respond.

Tisket
10-03-2010, 07:51 PM
Quoted or not, I feel the freedom to respond.

I was responding to his implication that freedom from prosecution would bring in a rush of fresh prostitutes. Not sure what that has to do with your point.

Delias
10-03-2010, 07:53 PM
I was responding to his implication that freedom from prosecution would bring in a rush of fresh prostitutes. Not sure what that has to do with your point.

I'm not really sure what it does either, I just felt obligated to contribute and defend prostitution.

Tisket
10-03-2010, 07:56 PM
I wasn't bashing prostitution, nor was I criticizing your post. I was mocking g++.

So uh, hooray for prostitution?

4a6c1
10-03-2010, 07:58 PM
I'm ok with male prostitutes. But not ok with any slutty whoredog females ruining all the menfolk and laffsing in the face of the holy scriptures (HALLELUJAH). jk jk. Of course I support prostitution. I would probably market my vagina if it was legal. Legal stuffs is good mkay.

Delias
10-03-2010, 07:59 PM
I wasn't bashing prostitution, nor was I criticizing your post. I was mocking g++.

So uh, hooray for prostitution?

HOORAY! HOOORES FOR EVERYONE! T'OUSANDS AND T'OUSANDS OF HOOORES!

Tisket
10-03-2010, 08:00 PM
I see what you did thar

Tisket
10-03-2010, 08:04 PM
Someone should start a thread about PC males who have solicited the services of prostitutes. Good and bad experiences, how'd you find her (him?), how much did you pay, were you afraid of getting busted, etc. etc. I want to live vicariously.

4a6c1
10-03-2010, 08:07 PM
Me too. You do it.

Tisket
10-03-2010, 08:09 PM
No U

4a6c1
10-03-2010, 08:12 PM
uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Delias
10-03-2010, 08:12 PM
I've never paid for sex in money... only with fancy meals and precious gems.
If it was legal and I could be pretty sure that they were required to get regular checkups and were issued some sort of "I don't have herpes or HIV" certificate, I am pretty sure I would. It's just like any other service... an oil change. Sure, I could do it myself, but for a nominal fee, jiffy lube does it for me and disposes of the old fluids for me.

g++
10-03-2010, 08:13 PM
I was responding to his implication that freedom from prosecution would bring in a rush of fresh prostitutes. Not sure what that has to do with your point.

Legal Prostitution
http://www.bunnyranch.com/

Illegal Prostitution
http://www.mugshots.com/Criminal/Prostitution/Melissa+Collora.htm

4a6c1
10-03-2010, 08:15 PM
I've never paid for sex in money... only with fancy meals and precious gems.
If it was legal and I could be pretty sure that they were required to get regular checkups and were issued some sort of "I don't have herpes or HIV" certificate, I am pretty sure I would. It's just like any other service... an oil change. Sure, I could do it myself, but for a nominal fee, jiffy lube does it for me and disposes of the old fluids for me.

This is wonderful.

4a6c1
10-03-2010, 08:16 PM
I must spread some raputation around before giving it to Delias again.

Tisket
10-03-2010, 08:17 PM
uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Don't make me bust out the Vader "no u" IMG.

And lol @ g++.

Delias
10-03-2010, 08:18 PM
This is wonderful.

I actually told my wife exactly the same thing, years ago.

4a6c1
10-03-2010, 08:19 PM
Don't make me bust out the Vader "no u" IMG.

And lol @ g++.

No I'm doing homework. Busy! Cant do it! Hah!

Tisket
10-03-2010, 08:34 PM
No I'm doing homework. Busy! Cant do it! Hah!

Bitch, you wore me down: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=56127