Very bad things from Kimchee land

[longshot]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/politics/13NUKE.html?hp

This is about the nuclear scientist from Pakistan, and how he saw three nukes while in North Korea. He is a metallurgist, and not a nuke scientist, so the possibility exists that they were sham weapons.

It also describes how he set them up for uranium made bombs as well.

US intelligence agents are not allowed to interrogate the Pakistani science guy... so all of our information is second hand.

Every bomb outside of the few needed for nuclear deterrent could be sold.

I see this, and it makes me so angry that we are in Iraq.

give it time korea is part of the axis of evil, iran and Korea are next on the list I am sure.

[DeV]

Korea is not going to be easy to combat, and certainly not something I hope the US thinks they can contain alone.

We don't act unilaterally. Iraq has some 15 other countries with troops on the ground, and some 40 total aiding us.
Not to mention we are not the only ones who are pissed off with korea in that area. Russia, China, South Korea, Japan ect. They carry a far better chance of getting nuked by them than we do.

[DeV]

Thats true, but what I meant was more so the convincing other nations that they need to intervene as well. I mean, look how hard it was just getting the UN and other nations to address the problems with Iraq.

Heh, All we have to do is cut off aid to North Korea and their people will starve before they can do anything.

[Pierat]

Mmmm Kimchee, once I left a thing of kimchee in my rental car overnight by accident.... next day was very hot... they werent happy when I returned the car :/

[Atlanteax]

Let's see... we have South Korea, China, and Japan working with the US to achieve a diplomatic resolution to NK's nuclear program.

SK is being helpful, as it hopes to eventually reunite peacefully with NK (ala east and west Germany).

Japan for the obvious reasons...

China, NK's unofficial patron, also does not want to see NK have nukes.
If NK has nukes, that means that SK and Japan will both quickly gain nukes of their own (or allow the US to station nukes there).
China does not want to see a nuclear-capable SK or Japan.
China obviously will want to keep NK as its puppet state, but is very conscious that NK having nukes is a very bad thing for Chinese security.

The NK situation will eventually get resolved to the US satisfaction.

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Iraq wasn't going to be. More than a decade of UN ineffectiveness, and no significant power (other than the US) were facing a security situation involving Iraq (France/Russia supported Iraq for the Oil and other tie-ins).

US also needed to confront Iraq for strategic reasons involving pressuring the rest of the MiddleEast to work with the US in regard to the War on Terror. With an army in Iraq, and the show of force involved, Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and others are all fully aware of how dead serious the US is at the moment.
It would be much harder for the US to pressure them if the US had no operational base to confront them from (Iraq is the geopolitical center of the ME).
Iran and Syria are now being more cooperative than in the past. Saudi Arabia is now fighting its own civil war against the extremists. Libya yielded to the US/UK (Iraq drove the point home to Libya, whose leader realized it's better to cooperate with the US and stay in power, than to suffer Saddam's fate).

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NK will be a situation resolved diplomatically. If NK really is a nuclear threat I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive Chinese intervention into NK to take possesions of the faculties and weapons.

You still post in Politics and religion?

[Atlanteax]

Originally posted by RangerD1
You still post in Politics and religion?

Yes, but unlike certain other posters there.. I don't have an obscene need to post again and again and again the exact same point to drown out anyone else.

[TheEschaton]

We don't act unilaterally. Iraq has some 15 other countries with troops on the ground, and some 40 total aiding us.


Ah yes, the Coalition of the "Willing". More like the people who were strongarmed into helping with billions of dollars worth of aid promised to them (or threatened to be taken away, if they were not compliant).

Coalition of the Willing. That makes me laugh.

-TheE-

[Latrinsorm]

Kim Chee was a wrestler in WCW/NWO Revenge. He was one of maybe 4 wrestlers who had a voice track, and he yelled "Chee" whenver he did anything. It was hella annoying.
The NK situation will eventually get resolved to the US satisfaction. w00t

[Mistomeer]

Originally posted by TheEschaton

We don't act unilaterally. Iraq has some 15 other countries with troops on the ground, and some 40 total aiding us.


Ah yes, the Coalition of the "Willing". More like the people who were strongarmed into helping with billions of dollars worth of aid promised to them (or threatened to be taken away, if they were not compliant).

Coalition of the Willing. That makes me laugh.

-TheE-

It's the Coalition of the 50 states.

[longshot]

Originally posted by Pierat
Mmmm Kimchee, once I left a thing of kimchee in my rental car overnight by accident.... next day was very hot... they werent happy when I returned the car :/

I did that in college... but in friends bedroom when he went out of town for the weekend.

It would have been a lot funnier if I he didn't immediately know it was me. My window paid for it with paintballs.

On a serious note...

1. South Korea is our ally on paper, but they all hate us. All of them. The last president, was elected because of his anti-American diatribes. Many centuries of being the bitch of East Asia has created a warped sense of nationalism fueled by a mutant strain of Christianity. This is why all the Korea girls you know are either waiting for marraige to have sex, or they are dancing at a titty bar.

2. The likeliness of military action against North Korea is like zero. They have nuclear weapons. They have the missles to launch them.

3. North Korea sells all of its weapons technology. The Teopodong missles (I don't know if it's spelled right... remember I hear and read most this shit in Japanese).

4. Any weapons outside of the few necessary for nuclear deterrence will likely be sold. The people who buy them will probably not be friends of ours.

So, while these lovely "negotiations" are going nowhere fast, they are increasing their nuclear arsenal.

On a side note, there are no willing nations in the "Coalition of the Willing". All contributing nations receive extensive aid packages, or have been forced to join up because the don't want to lose favors from the US.

[Weedmage Princess]

Very sobering stuff :/

Off Topic but...

[quote]Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Kim Chee was a wrestler in WCW/NWO Revenge. He was one of maybe 4 wrestlers who had a voice track, and he yelled "Chee" whenver he did anything. It was hella annoying.[quote]

Wasn't Kamala's manager or whatever also named Kimchee? The guy with the mask and the safari looking outfit?

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Weedmage Princess
Wasn't Kamala's manager or whatever also named Kimchee? The guy with the mask and the safari looking outfit? Before my time. :D

[i remember halloween]

all of these countries would be ridiculously easy to destroy. the problem is that some people think the civilians are worth saving.