Too good to be true?

[Betheny]

So, tomorrow I interview at Government Scientific Source for a job. I'm not sure what the title is, but the job is akin to a pharm rep -- except without all the rediculous travel. They supply laboratory equipment under government contract to pretty much every government facility with a lab in it. My job will be to be a customer contact.

I talked to the guy on the phone, and I have a really good feeling about it. He said I'm 90% qualified, and that he was very impressed with how well we got on, and with my phone skills (there's a lot of telephone talking involved in the job). He asked me if I would be willing to start as early as Friday. I go in tomorrow to initial interview, and then Thursday to finish up the final paperwork.

So I'm pretty sure I just landed myself a 30k a year job (not bad, considering I've never gotten salary before, and I make 7.35 an hour right now).

I'm uber-excited and very confident, after talking to this guy. I can hardly wait for tomorrow to roll around. He said the company has virtually no turnover, very good benefits, and excellent opportunity for promotion within. Adding to that, they also pay for me to go to school if the classes I take apply to my job (and since I'm probably going to go into business management or something, I'm sure it's covered.)

I'm hoping it isn't just him trying to interview and ditch me, but I really don't get that feeling. What do you think?

[AnticorRifling]

Good luck, you can put me down for a character reference :cool:

[Wezas]

Sounds pretty kick ass to me. No more a-holes asking for paper. And you can probably stop working nights on the side.

[peam]

Sounds awesome. Good luck with it.

[Betheny]

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
Good luck, you can put me down for a character reference :cool:

I don't think they mean 'character in a text-based game', though. ;)

[DeV]

I think you should go in there with the confidence you are exhibiting right now. Confidence is key, as well as a great attitude and a great amount of professionalism. You should have no problems!

Good luck.. wish you the best tomorrow. :)

[Edited on 4-12-2004 by DarkelfVold]

Congratulations!

Science or anything science related albeit, is cool. :cool:

Now go out there and show 'em what you're made of.

[Caipre]

By what he says it doesn't sound like he is trying to ditch you. Not if he wants you to start on Friday, adn to finish the paperwork on Thurs.

Good Luck!!

[Betheny]

let's just hope their office is prepared for me. ;)

[Mint]

Originally posted by Caipre
By what he says it doesn't sound like he is trying to ditch you. Not if he wants you to start on Friday, adn to finish the paperwork on Thurs.

Good Luck!!

Yeah, if anything it sounded like he was trying to sell HER on the job. That has to be a good sign since it's usually the applicant selling themselves as the right person for the job. Sounds like it is in the bag. Knock em dead. (I was going to add: 'and dance on their bodies' but that seemed inappropriate)

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Mint
Yeah, if anything it sounded like he was trying to sell HER on the job. That has to be a good sign since it's usually the applicant selling themselves as the right person for the job.

^^ What mint said. And since they seem to want you so bad, you might want to think about the kind of salary you want so you can negotiate a little. If they won't budge on the salary, you could always asking for more vacation, parking space(not sure if that's an issue), etc.

[Drew2]

I know you'll all in there and they'll be all "OMG WE <3 U HEER IS UR JOB" and then you will live happily evar after.

And if they don't give it to you I'll beat them up. All of them.

[Betheny]

I discussed salary with him, it's 28k to 35k based on experience. As I really have no experience in this field, I'm happily settling for 28k unless t hey offer me more. It's 3 months of training with a supervisor in the office, after that time I"m eligible to be promoted.

[Bobmuhthol]

lolz. Way to get a bad salary.

[TheEschaton]

I was a case worker, Bob, and I made all of 21,000 a year. Believe me, entry level jobs don't pay well. ;)


Of course, my stock portfolio did pretty well, though.


-TheE-

[Betheny]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
lolz. Way to get a bad salary.

13.50 an hour > 7.35 an hour

STFU

And without a college degree, that's not bad. At all.

[Bobmuhthol]

Which is why you should get a college degree.

25.00 an hour > 13.50 an hour

[Drew2]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Which is why you should get a college degree.

25.00 an hour > 13.50 an hour

I can make that without a college degree. Stop being wrong.

[Bobmuhthol]

I was going by the typical first-year salary of a CPA as opposed to making up numbers to try sounding smart.

[Betheny]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Which is why you should get a college degree.

25.00 an hour > 13.50 an hour

Okay, here's how it works in my world.

Job = money. Money = school.

[Wezas]

Me w/ No Degree > $25.00 hour

Bob w/ being 13 < $0.01 hour


And Maim, $28k is nice, that's a grand more then I started at my current job at, and now I'm making quite a bit more (only been here 5-6 years).

[Bobmuhthol]

<<Me w/ No Degree > $25.00 hour>>

...

<<And Maim, $28k is nice, that's a grand more then I started at my current job at>>

Again. FIRST YEAR typically pays $50,000.

[Betheny]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
<<Me w/ No Degree > $25.00 hour>>

...

<<And Maim, $28k is nice, that's a grand more then I started at my current job at>>

Again. FIRST YEAR typically pays $50,000.

For a person with a degree.

What is it you aren't getting here? Or... are you offering to ante up the hundred grand to complete my education?

[DeV]

28k entry level, this day in age, damn good. since she is working towards going to school and they will possibly pay for your classes, even better.

[Skirmisher]

Come on Bob, get at least one part time job under your belt before cracking on other people for actually making a buck.

[Wezas]

Bob is just angry because by the time he graduates college all the $100k jobs will have been shipped overseas.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<What is it you aren't getting here?>>

I'm informing Wezas that he does not understand the concept of time.

[Soulpieced]

Bob, it's not as easy as saying hey, I have a BA in Accounting, I'm magically going to get a 50k a year job right out of college.

<--- Job hunting sucks.

[Betheny]

And it's tax season... I can't believe you haven't found a job yet.

[Edaarin]

Heh, do you have any idea how hard the Uniform CPA examination is? Try finishing a fourteen hour exam sometime...

Even with that, there's no guarantees of landing a job in this market even with a bachelor's degree.

[Soulpieced]

My major is Information Systems, not Accounting. Though I do think I'm in for the DOD, but my main job prospect is a company called SevenSpace. I have a second interview this Friday at the corporate office. So I'll need some luck wished my way by the end of the week.

[Edited on 1-9-2005 by Soulpieced]

[Sweets]

Good luck..sounds like you have it bagged. 28k a year sounds very good to me.

Bob's just scared because by the time he's ready to graduate into his 50k job...he'll owe 150k in loans.:lol:

[Edited on 4-12-2004 by Sweets]

[DCSL]

I keep hearing about how Bob is thirteen and should shut up... while I agree, that in this case, he should shut up... how long has he been thirteen for?! Shouldn't he be turning fourteen soon?

Bob. How long.. have you been thirteen?

Ahem, and congratulations, Beth! No wonder you were smiling in the pictures you posted! I dunno about anyone else, but at the moment, I'd kill to make 28k a year. Getting a job sucks dead rat right now. I know a couple of licensed lawyers that have to work in a coffee shop here.

[Betheny]

He just wants to piss in my beer.

I'll find out tomorrow.

But I'm sure I'll get it.

:beer:

[HarmNone]

Best of luck to you, Beth! I am confident that you will get the job and show them how it SHOULD be done! :D

HarmNone knows you will do beautifully

[Caiylania]

Good luck Girl!! That is awesome. and with promotions and raises and bonuses over time that could be a very good payer. Hope you love it when you actually have it :)

Cheers!

[Nieninque]

Good luck on yer interview Beth. Hope you do well

[Bobby]

All of you have forgotten the most important thing.

With 28k income, she'll be able to afford to pay for her accounts!

:D

:yes:

3 cheers!

Hip Hip Horray!

Repeat 2 more times.:D:D:D

[Betheny]

Originally posted by Bobby
All of you have forgotten the most important thing.

With 28k income, she'll be able to afford to pay for her accounts!

:D

:yes:

3 cheers!

Hip Hip Horray!

Repeat 2 more times.:D:D:D

Doesn't mean I'll be playing though.

[Xcalibur]

with 30,000 dollars per year, what's the average the governments takes from you?

AVERAGE:)

[longshot]

Originally posted by Wezas
Me w/ No Degree > $25.00 hour

Bob w/ being 13 < $0.01 hour



You forgot his "Kleenex tax" :lol:

He's in the red fo sho!

[longshot]

Originally posted by Xcalibur
with 30,000 dollars per year, what's the average the governments takes from you?

AVERAGE:)

Couldn't tell you because I don't pay taxes!!

Whoohoo!

God bless offshore earnings exemptions!

[Betheny]

I so pwned all 3 of the interviews.

Tomorrow, 9:30 AM, I pwn the tour of the place and the setting up of my schedule.

WHO'S YO DADDY

[Celexei]

hehe congrats hun....hope it turns out very well for ya

[Caipre]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Which is why you should get a college degree.

25.00 an hour > 13.50 an hour

I make more than that and I'm a high-school drop out. I'm not saying school isn't important, I wouldn't have quit had the circumstances been different. But it is possible to make good money without it. Knowledge, skills and experience can take you a long way.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Maimara
I so pwned all 3 of the interviews.w00t

[Caipre]

Originally posted by Maimara
I so pwned all 3 of the interviews.

Tomorrow, 9:30 AM, I pwn the tour of the place and the setting up of my schedule.

WHO'S YO DADDY

Congrats!!

[HarmNone]

Yipee! Congratulations, hon!

HarmNone raises a Bailey's to Beth and her new job!

[Artha]

Bob is just angry because by the time he graduates college all the $100k jobs will have been shipped overseas.

...and those that haven't will be being done by robots.


Congrats, Maimara!

[Skirmisher]

Great New Beth thats wonderful!

[Edaarin]

So what is it you do?

[GSTamral]

I can assure you that going to college certainly helps in the starting salary, as well in the fact that those without a college degree often have to go through 2 promotions or more to get the same point. Have a masters or MBA, add another spot.

That being said, congratulations on getting the job :), work your ass off, and it pays off the in the end. As for Bob, until you actually get a job, making derogatory statements about other people's job offers is just well, totally full of Bobmuhthol.

You haven't even gotten into college yet, let alone a decent enough one from which you can market yourself to make that kind of money fresh out.

[Weedmage Princess]

Congrats on the job, Maimara! :)

[Back]

Originally posted by Maimara
So, tomorrow I interview at Government Scientific Source for a job. I'm not sure what the title is, but the job is akin to a pharm rep -- except without all the rediculous travel. They supply laboratory equipment under government contract to pretty much every government facility with a lab in it. My job will be to be a customer contact.

I talked to the guy on the phone, and I have a really good feeling about it. He said I'm 90% qualified, and that he was very impressed with how well we got on, and with my phone skills (there's a lot of telephone talking involved in the job). He asked me if I would be willing to start as early as Friday. I go in tomorrow to initial interview, and then Thursday to finish up the final paperwork.

So I'm pretty sure I just landed myself a 30k a year job (not bad, considering I've never gotten salary before, and I make 7.35 an hour right now).

I'm uber-excited and very confident, after talking to this guy. I can hardly wait for tomorrow to roll around. He said the company has virtually no turnover, very good benefits, and excellent opportunity for promotion within. Adding to that, they also pay for me to go to school if the classes I take apply to my job (and since I'm probably going to go into business management or something, I'm sure it's covered.)

I'm hoping it isn't just him trying to interview and ditch me, but I really don't get that feeling. What do you think?

Sounds like he is attracted to you. What the F. Play it; just don't drop the panties.

[Back]

Originally posted by GSTamral
I can assure you that going to college certainly helps in the starting salary, as well in the fact that those without a college degree often have to go through 2 promotions or more to get the same point. Have a masters or MBA, add another spot.

That being said, congratulations on getting the job :), work your ass off, and it pays off the in the end. As for Bob, until you actually get a job, making derogatory statements about other people's job offers is just well, totally full of Bobmuhthol.

You haven't even gotten into college yet, let alone a decent enough one from which you can market yourself to make that kind of money fresh out.

So what are the starting salaries for college grads this year? Ok, lets leave out the no-wage interns and the privilaed few. 25k? 30k?

Hope you like Top-Ramen with your Student Loan.

Thats a damn shame.

Here we have a President more intereseted in the welfare of Iraqis than the people who will make up this county's workforce.

[Mint]

Originally posted by Maimara
I so pwned all 3 of the interviews.


Outstanding! Group hug everyone! Oh, message board...crud.

[Back]

Awww... I'll hug! (Yes, Maim, I missed the abuse.)

Thank you, Mint, for bringing us together. :)

[Galleazzo]

Lot of people out there be glad to get 30K.

[peam]

I'm pretty confident I could do alright on 30K.

[imported_Kranar]

Depends on what you're majoring in.

Engineers have a starting salary of 50k U.S. which is pretty good when you're just entering the work force.

I don't know about how it works in the States, but in Canada pretty much every university has an internship program so that you get credit for real work experience and it pays more than enough for your education. So you're basically repaying your government loan as you gain your degree.

And finally, the top universities in Canada will actually PAY students who are pursuing a PhD. So you're actually getting paid to get a degree.

[Mint]

<---------- 48k earned driving a bus last year. I win.


Originally posted by Backlash
Awww... I'll hug! (Yes, Maim, I missed the abuse.)

Thank you, Mint, for bringing us together. :)

I live to serve. Love your avatar Backlash btw.

[Tsa`ah]

<----- 82k Gross last year.... I win. :P

::hugs ya all the same::

[Mint]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
<----- 82k Gross last year.... I win. :P

::hugs ya all the same::

:( Guess I need to start working some OT....nah. Okay, you win.

[Tsa`ah]

We actually make a similar hourly and I refuse to go salary.

I just get paid double time on Sundays and average about 10-12 hours of OT on top of that.

Also I am on the clock from the moment I step off my front step to the moment I return anytime I have to make a trip to a customer's.

Add in the straight time I get paid off shift anytime I log into the company server to work or log into the phone network to conference.

It adds up.

[Back]

Originally posted by Mint

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
<----- 82k Gross last year.... I win. :P

::hugs ya all the same::

:( Guess I need to start working some OT....nah. Okay, you win.

Unfortunately, Mint, you probably do not make as much as a man would...

Then again... guys tend to exagerate. A little.

Ey, Maimara.

The NYU school of med could use a few more REVCO's on the 4th floor of Tisch building.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Hey dumbfuck, you post nothing but :spam:

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
<----- 82k Gross last year.... I win. :P

::hugs ya all the same::

Actually, I win! Hee! :D

HarmNone wins.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by HarmNone

Actually, I win! Hee! :D

HarmNone wins.

Oh bite me ... really ... please.

[Edited on 4-14-2004 by Tsa`ah]

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Do we count income from stocks and bonds? If yes, I win!

[Betheny]

Just wait til July when I get promoted and start earning commission. It isn't commission for just me or my team's sales, either, it's a percentage of the entire company's sales -- and usually adds up to about 5 grand a month per person. Then, there's profit sharing at the beginning of the year... oh, and government holidays off/paid, and no weekends, no evenings, paid benefits...

[Tsa`ah]

I hate you.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
Oh bite me ... really ... please.


Is that an invitation? :D

HarmNone would not bite hard...

[HarmNone]

Maimara, that sounds absolutely awesome! I am really so very happy for you! :)

HarmNone

[longshot]

I make 3.6 million a year.

I have a harem of beautiful sex friends.

And I work 35 hours a week.

Did I mention I'm giving it all up to go back to school?:sniffle:

Maimara, congrats to you!

That's awesome you are out of the grocery store. It's nice to have challenging work that you are rewarded for.



[Edited on 4-14-2004 by longshot]

[Myshel]

Congratulations Beth! I'm really happy for you. Whenever the job gets to be a bitch, just remember the ass at the gas station. Thats what I do when I get discouraged at the restaurant, I remember staying up until 1 am every morning and typing invoices.

[Betheny]

yeah, screw Giant, they've seriously fucked me over for the last time. I'm not going back there as an employee.

[TheEschaton]

Engineers have a starting salary of 50k U.S. which is pretty good when you're just entering the work force.


I graduated with a degree in CS, and GE was recruiting me to work in their weapons division to work on guidance systems. They were offering me quite a bit more than that. Apparently they didn't know my personal feelings on the subject. I was thinking of taking the job, so I could laugh when their missiles landed in the middle of the Pacific, but I thought that would probably land me in jail.

And if we're counting stocks and bonds....I most definately win.

-TheE-

[Betheny]

BTW, you guys are awesome. Thanks for the support. :)

Indeed, you are right. Confidence is key. I aced the interviews, and I do my orientation tomorrow.

Whoever says this place isn't a good place for moral support is so totally wrong!

My next question is going to be: Where's a good place to find a cheap car (other than the local newspapers, etc)? I'm thinking something that runs for around 500 bucks, I just need it 'for now'.

[AnticorRifling]

Congrats on getting the job, post a picture of you in a business suit :cool:

FYI my wife makes more than me so I have sugar momma I WIN!!!

Now she needs to finish her masters so I can retire at 25 and just play golf

[Caipre]

Congrats again on the job. If you truely are as confident as you appear here, you are going to do great there. Keep up the good attitude and you should have no problems advancing.

[Betheny]

I have no problem with confidence when it comes to this job, I've got a really good example to follow. (coughbillcough)

As for a business suit, I don't own one. Maybe some day soon I'll invest in some decent clothes. Luckily, the office is very casual. As the marketing manager put it, "We walk softly, but we carry a very big stick" (referring to the casual demeanor vs the business' pull in their market).

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Maimara
My next question is going to be: Where's a good place to find a cheap car (other than the local newspapers, etc)? I'm thinking something that runs for around 500 bucks, I just need it 'for now'.

Carmax's cheapest cars are still about 5k, so I recommend going to autotrader.com. I was just checking it out (local area, I think you're in Northern VA). A few decent looking cars there (just watch out for the ones that say "need work"). One that caught my eye:

$800 Taurus with only 100k miles, looks decent but the guy suggests getting new brakes. (Local Midas running $90 lifetime brakes installed, rotors might be extra if they're bad)
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=161025622&dealer_id=&car_year=1993& make=FORD&distance=25&max_price=1000&model=&end_ye ar=2005&advcd_on=n&min_price=0&address=22030&searc h_type=used&advanced=n&start_year=1984&color=&card ist=19

[TheEschaton]

Beth, I have to get rid of my Saturn. Can't take it to Namibia, and I'm going to Boston afterwards, which is probably not a place to have a car. If you want it, let me look into it, and make sure no one else in my family is putting pre-emptive claims on it. Wasn't planning on selling it, really, the only thing is it would have to somehow get from WNY to VA.

-TheE-

[Wezas]

Also, there's a '71 Superbeetle down the road, the guy wants $800 for it (I'm sure he'd take $5-600) but I have dibs (as soon as I scrape together the cash and a reason why I need another car after buying a new one in August).

[Betheny]

Man, is it really that hard to find a stripped-down Geo Metro? LOL

TheE, IM me with details about the car, though I'm not sure I'll be able to give you what it's worth.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Kranar
And finally, the top universities in Canada will actually PAY students who are pursuing a PhD. So you're actually getting paid to get a degree. My school will be paying me to get a Master's (or something like that), although I'm sure I lose money based on opportunity costs and stuff.

Also: Damn, everyone here is rich. :(

[Betheny]

No they aren't. I sure as hell am nowhere near rich.

..yet

[peam]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Also: Damn, everyone here is rich. :(

My income was $8916.06 last year, if that makes you feel any better.

[Drew2]

Mine (officially) was $190.00. I totally win.

I did a lot of contract work that I'm guessing my cousin conveniently didn't report, and which I don't have to file (or pay taxes on).

If he did report it, he didn't give me the form (whatever number it is) and it's his fault. Oh wellz.

[Edaarin]

Let's just say I made more money selling Gemstone silver in the last year than how much I made last summer, after taxes.

[TheEschaton]

Remember, Latrin, it's not money that makes you rich, but what's inside that does.


-TheE-

[peam]

Originally posted by TheEschaton
Remember, Latrin, it's not money that makes you rich, but what's inside that does.


-TheE-

About two years ago, I probably would've called "Bullshit!"

But.. yep.

[Mint]

I never feel like I am actually working so I still think I win. Hey, where's the little smilie with the tongue sticking out? Oh well, consider that inserted...HERE.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by TheEschaton
Remember, Latrin, it's not money that makes you rich, but what's inside that does.Hippie. :P

So far, everyone except Tayre is (officially) making hella more than me, although I'm sure a degree in physics will open all kinds of career paths. :D

[Hulkein]

If I didn't have the opportunity to go to school I'd be in the middle of a plumber's apprenticeship.. As it is now I just do part time as a plumber's helper, but my uncle who I work for has his own business and is gradually putting more trucks on the road.

Getting into a union if you're like an 18 year old guy and able bodied is definitely the way to go if you don't go to get a degree for whatever reason.

As Tsa`ah said, working the double time and over time if you have the opportunity is golden.

[HarmNone]

Heh. Not rich by any means, Latrinsorm. A lot of my money goes back into my own business at the moment. Nevertheless, I love what I do. That is the real source of what I consider my "wealth". :)

HarmNone

And finally, the top universities in Canada will actually PAY students who are pursuing a PhD. So you're actually getting paid to get a degree

More information about this program and any similar ones in the states or abroad plz.

[Galleazzo]

I don't make a lot of jack and living in Boston's expensive but I'm my own man and no one's the boss of me.

[imported_Kranar]

<< More information about this program and any similar ones in the states or abroad plz. >>

In Canada the top Universities such as the universities of Toronto, British Columbia, Queens, and McGill, when you get your PhD with them, you are considered an asset to the university.

They take PhD's VERY seriously since you're doing research in their name. The reputation and history of these universities is based on the work done by PhD students so the universities use their grad students to compete against one another. So in order to keep grad students around, not only is tuition free, but depending on the field of research they'll offer a salary, free residence and meals and other bonuses to keep you with them.

It's a sweet deal, but of course the pressure is on you to produce results.

The only other real nice deal with respect to university available in Canada is the Royal Military College of Canada.

You get your degree with them for free, free residence, free meals, but then you have to serve with the armed forces for 3 years. You still get paid and everything while serving and it's a very reputable university.

Sounds like west point for the military school.

Whats the chances of transferring to one of those schools from an American one, and do they do the same thing in social sciences?

[Skirmisher]

All that Canadian internet poontang won't know what hit em.

heh.