Warpath Society

[Jace Solo]

Quick Q:

I'm trying to figure which society would be best mechanically for my Warpath. I don't really want him to be healing, mainly BS or Wither. I would like to role play him a bit more like Sorc than an Empath. (Thanks for the ideas on that from the Sorc Suck thread).

Currently he is a master with CoL
He will be hunting with a Wizard who is GoS.
Would it be better for him to leave CoL and join GoS?
Do Boneshatter and Wither benefit from the society weighting like bolt spells do?
His main purpose would be a cast or two for set up for the wizards bolts but if he is with the wizard he would be unable to wrack (which is the primary benefit I see with CoL). Alternatively, he could Sigil of Power consistantly and then boost both the wizard and his own mana pool considerably via 1107 (correct?)

Just wondering with the opinions. I know CoL would make a lot of sense for his RP decision but that's more of an internal thing right? There are GoS Sorcs after all.

Thanks guys

[Jace Solo]

Bump

[Kithor]

If you're willing to get 65 ranks blessing lore then GoS is definitely the way to go. 2x+ in Physical Fitness would help, although max stamina is based on skill and not ranks so you can probably do with 1x after a certain point.

[Murkshev]

Wither and Boneshatter are both CS based spells. Neither will benefit from GoS sigils. Bolt spell like Fire Spirit will benefit from it and you should train in spell aiming at least 2x to use it well. Besides the sigil of power, don't forget the sigil of concentration as a constant mana regen source. And be sure to train in whatever lore is needed to boost the Manna spell. Like Kithor said you want to start working on the blessings lore, it will also give you Web as a bolt spell.

[caelric]

Like Kithor said you want to start working on the blessings lore, it will also give you Web as a bolt spell.

BZZT!

While blessing lore is useful for many reasons, it is summoning lore that give you web bolt, and increases the DF of 111 as well as increasing the web chance of web bolt.

[Danical]

Your one weakness as a pure is maneuvers. Empaths can 3x PF, which is a important skill determining maneuver defense. All empaths should 3x PF like it's going out of style. It's a brilliant use of PTPs since you're converting most of the time.

[WRoss]

Why is this title warpath and you all are talking about purepath plans? Ok, I know, he asked about boneshatter/wither plans. Well if you want a good allaround plan, consider doing GOS with 1110. You can do 20 ranks of telepathy then 1x transformation just so you can heal yourself faster. You only need 57 ranks of transformation at cap to heal all wounds/scars with no RT. After getting to 65 ranks of blessing, you can start working up summoning lore which will help with 111 and 1118. For me, 1110 is massively overpowered at lower trains, especially with the CS cylces that keep dealing damage.

[WRoss]

Your one weakness as a pure is maneuvers. Empaths can 3x PF, which is a important skill determining maneuver defense. All empaths should 3x PF like it's going out of style. It's a brilliant use of PTPs since you're converting most of the time.

I dropped from 3x to 2x after they killed my redux. I'll get back up there eventually, but as an empath with 1x weapon, 1x cman, I find that training in other areas are more useful currently.

[Danical]

I dropped from 3x to 2x after they killed my redux. I'll get back up there eventually, but as an empath with 1x weapon, 1x cman, I find that training in other areas are more useful currently.

Right, except the OP is going "BS or Wither," hence the advice on 3x PF. Since you're a _real_ warpath, you already have 1x CM which is the best skill to have for Maneuver Defense.

[WRoss]

I still think that getting at least .33x cman is a great idea, especially now with cdefense.

I forgot to mention this earlier in my case for a bolting empath, but you can easily get away with only 2xing spells and bolting effectively.

[Kithor]

>>Since you're a _real_ warpath, you already have 1x CM which is the best skill to have for Maneuver Defense.

I believe PF counts for more against general maneuvers. (ones that don't use the CMAN system)

[Danical]

>>Since you're a _real_ warpath, you already have 1x CM which is the best skill to have for Maneuver Defense.

I believe PF counts for more against general maneuvers. (ones that don't use the CMAN system)

Yeah, I kinda lumped all maneuvers - creature and combat - into one general category.

PF is the best skill for Creature Maneuvers, while CM is the only skill (that I know of) that affects Combat Maneuvers, and does so at a really poor rate; something like 1 Combat Maneuver defense per 5 ranks. Although, CM ranks do allow you to get ranks in skills like Disarm, Feint, etc. for defense.

It's wildly stupid that you have to get ranks, in say, charge to be able to defense best against it, or sunder shield. Lame.

[Jace Solo]

OP said Warpath because he doesn't plan on healing.

My understanding is that the Warpath is still a more offensive minded although I will defer that it is a Pure-path's path.

I didn't want to use Empath because that would have most people specifically thinking "He's just gonna be healing, what does it matter..."

I wanted to know if Sigil of Power would be more effective for an Empath because of 1107 over the use of Wracking...which it sounds like it would be. It would be cool if the CS based spells could get benefit from the weighting that bolt spells do but it's not my main concern. Being able to hunt consistently without mana issues is more my concern.

Thank you for the replies guys. He is on his way to ZL as we speak.

I hadn't accounted for the Lore yet as he is just about to make 30 but I will start looking into them.

[Danical]

OP said Warpath because he doesn't plan on healing.

I think of it this way:

Warpaths = Warrior + Empath = Empaths using physical combat
Sorcpaths = Sorcerer + Empath = Empaths using CS spells

Not that it really matters.

[Jace Solo]

I like that. I'll refer to Sorcpath from now on.

If I go the bolt route am I a Wizpath?