Making the switch need help

[f3hdp]

I had an idea of what I wanted to do and thought it would work great with a rogue, come to find out I was wrong it was better set for a warrior.

I am looking for some training help and help on cmans

right now i am looking at
2x arm
2x ohe
2x dodge
2x pf
2x cm
1x moc

not sure where else to put the rest of my points. Do warriors need perception? I saw someone mentioned 30 trains in ambush for open aim? I was also thinking 25 ranks in MIU.

As for Cmans what ones can you get from the guild?

Thanks in advance

[Stunseed]

Using a shield or TWC?

[f3hdp]

good question didn't even think about that, what do most suggest? I guess right now neither

[Stunseed]

Here's my skillset for TWC, just switch edged with blunts or vice.

Auvreaian (at level 65), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Two Weapon Combat..................| 232 132
Armor Use..........................| 242 142
Combat Maneuvers...................| 232 132
Blunt Weapons......................| 236 136
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 155 55
Physical Fitness...................| 278 178
Dodging............................| 232 132
Harness Power......................| 120 30
Spirit Mana Control................| 82 18
Perception.........................| 166 66
Climbing...........................| 90 20
Swimming...........................| 90 20

[Donquix]

If you're going OHE a great cman for you will be hamstring. It will strike with both weapons making it a potent knockdown.

Parry mastery is great, as it will apply to both weapons.

wspec is an obvious choice since it's a prereq to bonding and again, if you use the same weapon in each hand you get to "double dip"

The cmans you can get from the guild are, in order of importance (imo)...

berserk, feint, disarm, tackle. Mastering berserk ASAP was one of if not the best decisions I made in gemstone. It's fun, works great with MoC, and being mastered and ready early when things like bind, web, and more frequent stuns start popping up was amazing.

Feint is a no brainer as well. Putting mobs in rt and stancing? yes plz.

disarm is helpful situationally and amazing to have for defense from it a bit later on. tackle is pretty lackluster as a knockdown. My guild order has been berserk to master, tricks hardcore to feint and then tricks and disarm...disarm slightly less since partners can be so hard to find at times.

after those are done i'd likely do bash just for the hell of it, then warcries/tackle whenever i could find suitable partners. if you're going to hunt the landing and plan on hitting the gy make sure to pick up your bash early to knock the gate open :)

[f3hdp]

Ok this is what I have planned so far and what i am thinking. (Erithian stats placed for cap)

2x armor till 140
2x ohe
2x pf
2x dodge
1xmoc
1x fa
1x survival, will be in Ice Mule
1x perception

I did not use shield because i'm trying to base my character loosely off a fencer.

I was thinking of putting my extra points in MIU, AS and i saw some people talking about Harness Power and Spiritaul manna share. Any thoughts?

As for Cmans
wsepc 3
bond 5
parry 5
Feint from the guild
Disarm from the guild
Beserk from the guild

armor spec reinforcement

Was possible thinking about trying evasion and cunning defense to staying in brig. (I don't see a fencer wearing plate, plus i trained for plate just in case)

Also with armor specialization what are everyones thoughts? Can you only train in one or can you train in multiple? If you can train in multiple should you 2x armor for life so you can get those other skills? right now I leaning towards reinforcement.

Thanks again for the help

[AnticorRifling]

So you say you're not using a shield, you planning on going TWC? because I don't see that in your plan.

[Androidpk]

So you say you're not using a shield, you planning on going TWC? because I don't see that in your plan.

Neither.

[Latrinsorm]

As for Cmans what ones can you get from the guild? In addition to Donquix' list, combat mastery (wtrick stance perfection).
Do warriors need perception? I saw someone mentioned 30 trains in ambush for open aim?Perception does nothing for open aiming. If you are using OHE and get bonding and wspec, you will probably be able to open aim fine without any ambush training at cap. If you would like to open aim throughout your career, I recommend singling ambush to 20 and weaning off it a rank at a time when you get to level 50. These numbers are relatively arbitrary, but will work for you nonetheless.
Was possible thinking about trying evasion and cunning defense to staying in brig. (I don't see a fencer wearing plate, plus i trained for plate just in case)Plate is much, much, much better than brig. If I had to put a number on it, I would say it is a millions billions times better(s). Your DS loss is extremely negligible, and your gain in ability-to-take-a-hitness is immense.

OHE/nothing is a relatively untried path compared to OHE/shield and OHE/OHE. You can make it to cap. GS mechanics do not really support the idea you are trying to get across with warrior skills. I would say you are mechanically better off going with rogue and hidden-ambush-fencing. If you are going to be in the open, warrior is the way to go amongst squares.

[Donquix]

Training in brig will make you hate life.

get plate and an armor concealor, problem solved.

i had to do the same, i'm a pirate damn it...and plate isn't exactly known for its buoyancy. Gotta be prepared, arrrgh.