Training Plan

[Varsus]

Ok so I was going over a training plan for an ambushing warrior...

One thing that bugs me about this plan I made, is he has NO dodge...

Was looking for input

Level 0 Stats for New, Giant Warrior

Strength (STR): 98
Constitution (CON): 99
Dexterity (DEX): 90
Agility (AGI): 93
Discipline (DIS): 70
Aura (AUR): 69
Logic (LOG): 60
Intuition (INT): 41
Wisdom (WIS): 20
Influence (INF): 20

Training:

3x armor
2x 2-hander
2x hide
2x ambush
2x PT
30 percep (lvl 50)
30 first aid (lvl 50)
10 climb (lvl 50)
10 swim (lvl 50)
5 MOC (lvl 50)

Just bugs me... I dono if I can go with no dodge, but i do for sure want that full plate...

-Varsus

[Hulkein]

You can't have stats like that.. pretty sure you can only have 1, or at the most 2 in the 90's to start. Even if you could, why go so physical? Seems like a waste, it'll max out at like level 5.

[Varsus]

Those are my current stats on Varsus

-Varsus

[Varsus]

Also, Str and Con Count as Double for TP's for the warriors, when I changed my stats to that I litterally gained like... 500 tp's or some crap.

Id get a spreadsheet, put in my stats over your training plan, see how many you get, it shocked me. (and I have more stat changes left for when I cap (few years)

-Varsus

[Trinitis]

Good luck going no dodge..I'll feel for you each time I see ya die :P

But seriously, I did the same stat setup with my warrior (basicly)

Here :

Level: 20
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (40) ... 100 (40)
Constitution (CON): 96 (33) ... 96 (33)
Dexterity (DEX): 96 (18) ... 96 (18)
Agility (AGI): 96 (18) ... 96 (18)
Discipline (DIS): 76 (13) ... 76 (13)
Aura (AUR): 75 (7) ... 75 (7)
Logic (LOG): 54 (-3) ... 54 (-3)
Intuition (INT): 52 (1) ... 52 (1)
Wisdom (WIS): 56 (3) ... 56 (3)
Influence (INF): 40 (0) ... 40 (0)

(at level 20), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 166 66
Combat Maneuvers...................| 144 44
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 144 44
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 96 22
Physical Fitness...................| 144 44
Dodging............................| 144 44
Harness Power......................| 25 5
Perception.........................| 30 6
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10
Training Points: 0 Phy 62 Mnt (204 Mnt converted to Phy)

[Varsus]

Ok, well here is plan 2, tell me if you like it more:

Same stats.

Skills:

2x armor
2x 2-hander
2x hide
2x ambush
2x PT
1x dodge
1x percep
1x first aid
20 climb (lvl 50)
20 swim (lvl 50)
5 MOC (lvl 50)

Note, got 10 more ranks climb and swim, and went from 30 to 50 in percep and first aid. also 1x dodge. BUT NO FULL PLATE! gah!

-Varsus

[Varsus]

er 2nd plan also leaves like 5/52 points left, vs the 0/19 or so for the first

[TheEschaton]

The point of hiding is that you don't have to dodge anything.


That being said, being doubled is fair, but it won't be a guarantee.

Besides, the hide mechanics are gonna be changed to make it nearly impossible to hide in anything more than brig.

If you want to hide and then ambush, forget the full plate.

If you want to just ambush from the open, forget the hide, and go for dodge. But there's no point in training for hide AND full plate, cause it'll soon be impossible to hide in plate no matter how skilled.

-TheE-

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by TheEschaton
The point of hiding is that you don't have to dodge anything.


That being said, being doubled is fair, but it won't be a guarantee.

Besides, the hide mechanics are gonna be changed to make it nearly impossible to hide in anything more than brig.

If you want to hide and then ambush, forget the full plate.

If you want to just ambush from the open, forget the hide, and go for dodge. But there's no point in training for hide AND full plate, cause it'll soon be impossible to hide in plate no matter how skilled.

-TheE-

Tru dat

[Jack]

My suggestion is, if you want to be an ambusher, make a rogue. Hide and ambush are cheaper..... That said, here's the way I trained my warrior:

(at level 47), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use....................................| 234 134
Combat Maneuvers......................| 198 98
Two-Handed Weapons................| 198 98
Multi Opponent Combat...............| 70 15
Physical Fitness............................| 247 147
Dodging........................................| 200 100
Arcane Symbols.............................| 90 20
Survival.........................................| 74 16
Perception.....................................| 147 47
Climbing.........................................| 58 12
Swimming......................................| 25 5
First Aid..........................................| 82 18
Training Points: 0 Phy 13 Mnt (606 Mnt converted to Phy)
(Use SKILLS BASE to display unmodified ranks and goals)

[Varsus]

I want to be able to hide and ambush WHEN I want to..

I want to be able to hunt in full plate WHEN I want to...

So that Im not dependant on hiding to hunt, since I over hunt.

And so that im not stuck in crappy armor (anything other than plate)

And I have an old rogue, i want my warrior to ambush with his claid. (currently 50 trains)

-Varsus

[TheEschaton]

Then do the tripling in armor, and carry two sets of armor with you?


Or, get a dwarf to be a page or something. We're not allowed to be young kids in Gemstone, but a dwarf or halfling should do height wise.

-TheE-

[Xinister]

My suggestions for training an ambushing two-handed warrior in GS4.

Train in Two-Handed 2x all the time.
Train in hiding and stalking 2x all the time.
Train in armor only 2x, because there is a limit on this skill.
Train in dodge 1x as standard or more for those misses.
Train in ambush 1x as standard or more to AIM.
Train in CM 2x for AS and cman skill points.
Train in PT 2x for redux and health regen.
DO NOT train in Shields. It's useless.
Left over points are up to you.

Xinister
Whom got bored of GS cause there's no challenge.