Ammo, bundling, and how to manage it all.

[Gibreficul]

So, I've been grinding away as an open archer, and it's not too bad. I notice at the end of the hunt, even when I'm attempting to bundle arrows that I end up with a bunch of singles. They'll bundle into groups of 6, 7, 3, 2, random numbers. Often, they'll still have charges of the e-blade on them. So, how do you all manage your ammo? I assume fletching my own arrows and customizing them would be my best option for organization.

A few questions...

Is there a good script out there for gathering and bundling arrows, or should I just use what I been using, and have an "afterhunt cleanup" type thing to organize them all?

Is there a way to get an arrow from a specific bundle? I've tried everything but other than "GET 1 ARROW FROM BACKPACK" and READY AMMO commands, nothing seems to work. (All my arrows are "wooden arrows" and I'm aware, if I would fletch and paint my ammo, I could GET RED ARROW, GET BLUE ARROW.) I'm looking to grab an arrow from a specific bundle by the bundle ID#, if at all possible. ANYONE?

Is there anything that I should be actively avoiding as an archer other than non-corps and full plate?

I read the great thread started by Briarfox, so i'm pretty well versed in the mechanics, I'm just looking for a few extra tricks of the trade to perhaps simplify my experience as a pansy, I mean, archer.

[Anebriated]

when returning the arrows to my bundle i have a macro set to gather arrow\rput arrow in arrow in my quiver. commands have to be set to singular form so it will catch just 1.

not sure how to help on the removing part.

[Ryvicke]

The only way I know of to bundle specifically and grab specifically is to use first/second/third designators or separate containers. I'm not sure on how that works with lich object ids.

Normally when not scripting you won't end up with separate bundles unless you're forced to because you lose a bless or an e-blade and are unable to bundle it with the rest.

[SpiffyJr]

I have a few scripts.

gather - gathers arrows and bundles them in container when there are no critters in the room and an arrow is found
sammu bundle - goes through container and bundles all arrows into one bundle

[Ausek]

Is there a good script out there for gathering and bundling arrows, or should I just use what I been using, and have an "afterhunt cleanup" type thing to organize them all?

I do not use a looting lich-script and use a simple FE-script:
.gath
put gather arrow
put put arrow in arrow in my quiver

This will collect all the arrows on the ground and put them back into one bundle. As long as you don't pick up an arrow and fire it again you're fine, but I assume you know that since you know all the mumbo-jumbo.

Is there a way to get an arrow from a specific bundle? I've tried everything but other than "GET 1 ARROW FROM BACKPACK" and READY AMMO commands, nothing seems to work. (All my arrows are "wooden arrows" and I'm aware, if I would fletch and paint my ammo, I could GET RED ARROW, GET BLUE ARROW.) I'm looking to grab an arrow from a specific bundle by the bundle ID#, if at all possible. ANYONE?

I don't know about this, as I tried to do something similar but I ran into the problem of needing multiple scripts, like the one I posted above. I used to keep two quivers, one for blessed arrows one for ebladed, and my gather scripts would contain three extra lines that would let them gather the correct type of arrow.
.bgath
put get 1 arrow from my thigh-quiver
put drop arrow
put gather arrow
put put arrow in arrow in my thigh-quiver

This was repeated for the ebladed arrows, but it would pull one arrow from the shoulder quiver instead of the thigh-quiver. When you gather arrows it bundles them based on the first arrow that you pickup, so if you drop one arrow first then that is what will be collected and you can then sort them into the right container.

I did a little testing and can't get the game to recognize "get 1 arrow from second arrow in quiver" so you will likely NEED to have multiple quivers in order to use more than one set of arrows. The only command that would get 1 arrow was "get 1 arrow from quiver".

Is there anything that I should be actively avoiding as an archer other than non-corps and full plate?

Mmm...with haste imbeds anything is possible. 1 second shots on plate inside a camp really isn't so bad when your offensive DS is higher than the grim AS. That's how I take care of plate wearers when I solo camps, and when the rooms get too flooded. Always target the casters first though.

I read the great thread started by Briarfox, so i'm pretty well versed in the mechanics, I'm just looking for a few extra tricks of the trade to perhaps simplify my experience as a pansy, I mean, archer.

His guide really is great, a collective work of archer knowledge and I would point anyone in that direction before they start asking questions about archery.

Edit: After a little more testing I was able to "get 1 arrow from a arrow in quiver" as well as "get 1 arrow from wooden arrow in quiver". That means you CAN do it, but you need to fletch your arrows to make work. I was using mastered "a dark faewood arrow fletched with glossy black feathers" and it would not get those arrows with any other keyword but "a arrow".

[Gibreficul]

I have a few scripts.

gather - gathers arrows and bundles them in container when there are no critters in the room and an arrow is found
sammu bundle - goes through container and bundles all arrows into one bundle

using PUT or _drag type commands?


Oh, and one other thing... is there any way to get closer to your arrows faster? My script spams the shit out of me. (Ya, I know, there's not, bastards.)

By the way, thanks for the thoughts, I might have been grabbing an arrow from the ground, however I think the script only does "ready ammo" which... shouldn't, I'd assume.

[SpiffyJr]

I just use put commands. And no, there isn't a way to get closer. It's a pain in the ass.

[Hecates]

just use ebladed arrows once... problem solved.

[DaCapn]

Arrows can be pulled from your second bundle thusly:

>look second arrow in my quiver
You carefully count the arrows and find 20 in the bundle, each one being a whalebone arrow, with a strength of 20 and a durability of 40. The arrows are surrounded by a scintillating silver light.

Individual projectiles from this bundle will have a show of ""

Each individual projectile will be "a whalebone arrow".

>get 1 second arrow in my quiver
You remove a single whalebone arrow from a bundle of whalebone arrows.
>look second arrow in my quiver
You carefully count the arrows and find 19 in the bundle, each one being a whalebone arrow, with a strength of 20 and a durability of 40. The arrows are surrounded by a scintillating silver light.

Individual projectiles from this bundle will have a show of ""

Each individual projectile will be "a whalebone arrow".

[Asrial]

Another method is to buy a bulk of arrows and just leave them after using them. You convert the bundling during a hunt to a trip to the store every few hunts.

[SpiffyJr]

;sammu refill buy 100
;sammu bundle

[Gibreficul]

Thanks everyone, appreciate the suggestions.

[SpiffyJr]

Dear person who gave me this neg rep:



If you were to spend 5 minutes at my place of employment, your incompetency at my vocation and complete ignorance of my field of expertise would get you escorted out of the complex at the very least, possibly even criminally charged depending on the level if your fucktitude.

I have an extremely busy life. To say that I do not have time to sit and learn Ruby script is a laughable understatement. I am learning as I go, and I do know quite a bit more than I did. I am far from an idiot. I use bigshot and sloot because they are really awesome tools that someone has put a lot of hard work into that make my game about a thousand times more fun. I do not consider myself a subpar human being because writing scripts for a video game is not among my repertoire of skills.

That's an effective pwn statement but it's probably falling on deaf ears (blind eyes?). Whoever posted the neg rep didn't have the balls to post their name and likely lacks the intelligence to understand your ownage above.