4 more days then 30 days is up, then what?

[Tare]

what should I do to make changes since My 30 days gonna end soon?At level 11, by the time you see this, I'll still be 11 lolAny help?
Skills:
Armor Use..........................| 96 22
Combat Maneuvers...................| 54 11
Polearm Weapons....................| 96 22
Physical Fitness...................| 96 22
Dodging............................| 54 11
Harness Power......................| 54 11
Perception.........................| 30 6
Climbing...........................| 70 15
Swimming...........................| 70 15

Spell Lists
Paladin............................| 11
Strength (STR): 95 (27) ... 65 (12)
Constitution (CON): 75 (12) ... 30 (-10)
Dexterity (DEX): 73 (11) ... 50 (0)
Agility (AGI): 73 (11) ... 50 (0)
Discipline (DIS): 75 (12) ... 51 (0)
Aura (AUR): 53 (1) ... 37 (-6)
Logic (LOG): 81 (20) ... 56 (8)
Intuition (INT): 63 (11) ... 43 (2)
Wisdom (WIS): 83 (16) ... 57 (3)
Influence (INF): 31 (-9) ... 22 (-14)

[Tare]

hm...

[WRoss]

Tisket wants you to PM her somemore.

[Tare]

bah comeo n...

[Tare]

come on.help me out please

[TheLastShamurai]

I present to you, The Players' Corner Paladin Forum!

http://forum.gsplayers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10

A veritable library of other threads to answer your unspecified questions!

[Tare]

Bull

[thefarmer]

derp derp

[AnticorRifling]

Hey guys here's a lvl 11 toon with some stats and training. I'm not going to tell you what I want to do with the character or what my end goals are (lvl 50, lvl 100, etc) or anything else. This is serious he's lvl 11 and you can't just get lvl 11 very easy so it's got to be perfect (you know perfect for my undefined goals). So yeah fix it. HURRY HURRY DONT BE ASSES HELP!!!!

[Celephais]

I love how he initially posted at 1AM and expected results at 9AM.

Here's all my shit, I'm going to sleep now, when I wake up I want RESULTS!

[Showal]

what should I do to make changes since My 30 days gonna end soon?At level 11, by the time you see this, I'll still be 11 lolAny help?
Skills:
Armor Use..........................| 96 22
Combat Maneuvers...................| 54 11
Polearm Weapons....................| 96 22
Physical Fitness...................| 96 22
Dodging............................| 54 11
Harness Power......................| 54 11
Perception.........................| 30 6
Climbing...........................| 70 15
Swimming...........................| 70 15

Spell Lists
Paladin............................| 11
Strength (STR): 95 (27) ... 65 (12)
Constitution (CON): 75 (12) ... 30 (-10)
Dexterity (DEX): 73 (11) ... 50 (0)
Agility (AGI): 73 (11) ... 50 (0)
Discipline (DIS): 75 (12) ... 51 (0)
Aura (AUR): 53 (1) ... 37 (-6)
Logic (LOG): 81 (20) ... 56 (8)
Intuition (INT): 63 (11) ... 43 (2)
Wisdom (WIS): 83 (16) ... 57 (3)
Influence (INF): 31 (-9) ... 22 (-14)

Wow, your training's pretty messed up. First off, you want INF to be higher (at least 85). Frop down your agility and your strength to compensate.

These are the skills I would pick:

Armor Use: 0.75x
Polearms: 1x
Blunt weapons: 0.5x (you may at some point need to swing the blunt side of your polearm and you want to be ready for when you do)
First Aid: 1.5x
Trading: 2x
CM: 0.33x
Ambush: 1x
Spell Aiming: 2x
Paladin spells: 1x
Climbing and Swimming: 1x each
Physical Fitness: 1x (you don't need more. If you run your character from WL to Solhaven a few times a day, his PF will increase naturally as a result)
Perception: 1x

That should put you where you want to be. Anything left over, spend as you see fit (Dodging or Mana control)

[BriarFox]

Dude, Showal, that character you're helping him create would be potentially one of the most powerful in the game!

[WRoss]

paladin with 111 as his main hunting, ftw

[Celephais]

Dude, Showal, that character you're helping him create would be potentially one of the most powerful in the game!

I feel like he'd be a little cookie cutter with 1x ambushing, I'd suggest cutting it down to about 0.5x, and using the spare points to get as much demonic lore as possible, to help improve the plasma flares (I know I know, a lot of people think demonic lore is overrated, but it really can give you that extra umph in a pinch).

[BriarFox]

I feel like he'd be a little cookie cutter with 1x ambushing, I'd suggest cutting it down to about 0.5x, and using the spare points to get as much demonic lore as possible, to help improve the plasma flares (I know I know, a lot of people think demonic lore is overrated, but it really can give you that extra umph in a pinch).

True, but that's only if he's dedicated to a Lornon Arkati. If he's going for Liabo, he should train in Mental Lore - Manipulation for better flares.

[TheLastShamurai]

I was content just to share the Paladin folder... but you guys have really out-done yourselves and perhaps created the most comprehensive, thoughtful and downright correct collection of Paladin training suggestions available.

We should sticky this thread...

[Tare]

showal: sorry..but that's the most ridiculous training I ever seen....I'm 2xing my armor, not gonna lower..no I'm not ambushing because I'll never hide and I don't want to, why in the heck will I train in spell aiming?1xing cman is good enough for me..I'm in GoS, so I'm 1.5xing it..your advice it's just..eh.

[Celephais]

Lol, what a nub. Thank you AD2. If you're going to ask for advice and then tell them to F off afterwards, don't expect much other help.

[Showal]

showal: sorry..but that's the most ridiculous training I ever seen....I'm 2xing my armor, not gonna lower..no I'm not ambushing because I'll never hide and I don't want to, why in the heck will I train in spell aiming?1xing cman is good enough for me..I'm in GoS, so I'm 1.5xing it..your advice it's just..eh.

Suit yourself. There are a lot of other people in this thread that are saying my suggestions are great, and they're at least a few months past their 30 day trial so they're well seasoned.

It's really up to you to decide which route you want to take, Celephais' or BriarFox's. Both would make you very powerful when built upon the base I gave you, it just depends on what you want for your character.

[Cephalopod]

I am so glad I re-read Showal's suggestion. I skimmed over it at first, because I didn't see the genius there. I'm retraining my Shattered Paladin right now, but I think I'm going to go with the extra Demonology Celephais suggested.

[Celephais]

showal: sorry..but that's the most ridiculous training I ever seen....I'm 2xing my armor, not gonna lower..no I'm not ambushing because I'll never hide and I don't want to, why in the heck will I train in spell aiming?1xing cman is good enough for me..I'm in GoS, so I'm 1.5xing it..your advice it's just..eh.

Oh actually you do make one good point, he listed 2x spell aiming, I don't think Paladins can, it'd be really nice if you could, but I think you can only 1x. Paladin's are holy warriors, you need to be able to aim your spells. 2xing armor might be a bit overkill, but I'd say compromise and go 1.5x, Paladins don't need to train as much in armor use as warriors because they have that spell that reduces armor hindrance.

[Showal]

Oh actually you do make one good point, he listed 2x spell aiming, I don't think Paladins can, it'd be really nice if you could, but I think you can only 1x. Paladin's are holy warriors, you need to be able to aim your spells. 2xing armor might be a bit overkill, but I'd say compromise and go 1.5x, Paladins don't need to train as much in armor use as warriors because they have that spell that reduces armor hindrance.

Celephais is right, you can only 1x spell aiming. I was making my new rogue character training plan when I wrote that, so that's why I got that confused. Paladins can, and should, only 1x in spell aiming.

If you want to waste points, 2x (or even 1.5x) in armor use. You will only need 1x, even above level 50.

[BriarFox]

Spell aiming is a tough path for a paladin, but it's killer. You'll want to train straight up the 100s to 118, and then the 1600s to 1606. Then get 20 ranks of summoning lore for web bolt. 1x spell aiming, plus 1605 and 1606 for DF and AS, plus 117 for those huge shots. You'll be rocking Shan with webs and fire flying from both hands in a patented Cusinart of fiery doom attack sequence in just two weeks. Most people just don't see how badass this path is because they think paladins have to use weapons. You should be looking to pick up a 4x runestaff asap, btw.

[Showal]

Spell aiming is a tough path for a paladin, but it's killer. You'll want to train straight up the 100s to 118, and then the 1600s to 1606. Then get 20 ranks of summoning lore for web bolt. 1x spell aiming, plus 1605 and 1606 for DF and AS, plus 117 for those huge shots. You'll be rocking Shan with webs and fire flying from both hands in a patented Cusinart of fiery doom attack sequence in just two weeks. Most people just don't see how badass this path is because they think paladins have to use weapons. You should be looking to pick up a 4x runestaff asap, btw.

The good thing is, you've already made it through the toughest part for this training path. Once you're pass level 10, you're golden.

[Tisket]

I love the PC. You guys are so incredibly helpful. I'm almost inspired to start my own paladin.

[Cephalopod]

I love the PC. You guys are so incredibly helpful. I'm almost inspired to start my own paladin.

I have a polearm with a really great blunt handle for you.

[Tisket]

I have nothing. I need to take comeback lessons from AR. Pretend I came up with something fantastically hilarious in the meantime.

[Showal]

Hey Tare, just wondering if you took our advice and how it turned out?

[AnticorRifling]

I have nothing. I need to take comeback lessons from AR. Pretend I came up with something fantastically hilarious in the meantime.

See when he mentions he's got a polearm for you the obvious retort is "Really I knew we could train in 2handers but half handers that's gotta be something new".

[Drisco]

Hahah you guys are the best. Mean but the best.

Tare I'd look at the Archives, there are probably tons of posts in their like yours... But with real answers. Here are a few I found helpful. (Btw the archives is that the bottom right of the page)

Paladin Archives : http://forum.gsplayers.com/archive/index.php/f-10.html

(1)
http://forum.gsplayers.com/archive/index.php/t-51210.html

(2)
http://forum.gsplayers.com/archive/index.php/t-53234.html


The fact that you are only 11 by the 30 days is bad tho. I'm 3 days from my 30 days and I'll be 27 when I get there.

[Celephais]

Might not be playing on shattered.

[Showal]

Might not be playing on shattered.

He also didn't have the training plan I recommended. Wait until it's implemented. You'll be 30 and he'll be 45.

[Tare]

hit 12 last night..
skills:
Armor Use..........................| 102 24
Combat Maneuvers...................| 58 12
Polearm Weapons....................| 102 24
Physical Fitness...................| 102 24
Dodging............................| 58 12
Harness Power......................| 58 12
Perception.........................| 40 8
Climbing...........................| 70 15
Swimming...........................| 70 15

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 1

Spell Lists
Paladin............................| 12

[Tare]

manage to fit minor spiritual...

[Drisco]

I'd be 3x until brig personally.

[Tare]

I wore a brig before with a 5rt swinging a two hander with my paladin before I switched to polearms, and he was 3x then, but I'm 2xing for now, till I'm 40-50..or 30..I don't know
right now, I'm wearing a leather breastplate, thinking about a studded leather

[Cephalopod]

thinking about a studded leather

You should get a leather choker with spikes. It protects from neck crits, and you'll get protection from Rocktar as his slave.

[AnticorRifling]

HAHAHA win.

[Tare]

I can't even find a darned choker