The Walking Dead

[Celephais]

Looks pretty good, AMC rules.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHN6goQTP9k&feature=player_embedded

[Stanley Burrell]

I 28 Am Days Legend Later.

[peam]

Here's a non-shit quality shot of the same trailer:

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/08/24/amc-walking-dead-trailer/

This series gives me a big undead boner. I just hope Walter White's alright sharing AMC, else...

http://mm.todoseries.com/%2FEspa%C3%B1ol%2FOcio%2FSeries%2FActualidad%2F676 38/breaking-bad.jpg

"Stay off of my network."

[Asha]

Thank fuck for walking zombies again.

[Leloo]

I think it's awesome that this is a tv show and on AMC. I will be watching.

[Androidpk]

Is that the black guy from Jericho?

[iJin]

My English prof. told us about this. I am very excited.

[HouseofElves]

Is that the black guy from Jericho?

Yep. Also excited about this one.

[Tisket]

man oh man oh man

I may or may not have just had an orgasm.

[B4Hand]

Yay! Cannot wait.

[Killer Kitten]

Zombies are the hot!! Hubby's gettin' lucky tonight.

[pabstblueribbon]

Good first episode. I still don't understand how tanks could fall to zombies though..

:shrug:

[Celephais]

Good first episode. I still don't understand how tanks could fall to zombies though..

:shrug:

Trying to hold down a position w/ people not in tanks ... didn't seal it up, overrun unexpectedly... no fuel ... out of ammo... no supply line.

The first episode was indeed good, I'm really looking forward to this series, I'm glad they made it as gritty and violent as they did, they didn't dumb things down.

Zombie Boner.

[Ardwen]

because stupid people can indeed drive a tank

[pabstblueribbon]

Yeah. Probably the .50 cal gunner getting ambushed and shit going down hill from there. I'd just seal the som bitch up and start running them over on my way the fuck out of town and into the hills far away from the city centers..

[Celephais]

Yeah. Probably the .50 cal gunner getting ambushed and shit going down hill from there. I'd just seal the som bitch up and start running them over on my way the fuck out of town and into the hills far away from the city centers..

If there was a camera when it happened the gunner was targeting a woman or child and his commander was like "Soldier, fire your weapon" "I ... I can't" "THAT'S AN ORDER" "I will not obey that order!" "YOU WILL OBEY THAT ORDER!" "I CANnoaasarrrrrrghgggh"

Then the zombies got into the tank, and got the guy inside, and someone else tried to crawl out the bottom (hence the hatch was open), and they got him. That's what happened.

[pabstblueribbon]

If there was a camera when it happened the gunner was targeting a woman or child and his commander was like "Soldier, fire your weapon" "I ... I can't" "THAT'S AN ORDER" "I will not obey that order!" "YOU WILL OBEY THAT ORDER!" "I CANnoaasarrrrrrghgggh"

Then the zombies got into the tank, and got the guy inside, and someone else tried to crawl out the bottom (hence the hatch was open), and they got him. That's what happened.

Damn, you're good at this. :clap:

[Delarock]

This show was awesome. I can't believe how quickly the time passed watching it.

[Androidpk]

I can't believe I forgot to watch this.. :(

[Liberi Fatali]

I can't believe I forgot to watch this.. :(

Doh. I forgot too. Can you watch it online anywhere? When's the next episode on?

[Caetul]

Doh. I forgot too. Can you watch it online anywhere? When's the next episode on?

Every Sunday at 10pm EST

[peam]

tvtorrents.com has it up.

[Drinin]

Loved the first episode. My girlfriend and I are hooked.

[Androidpk]

Watching it now. AMC is THE shit.

[Liberi Fatali]

Watching it now. AMC is THE shit.

How are you watching it now?! Did you go to where Peam said? Is that easy to do?

[Androidpk]

Tons of torrents out there for it. Got mine from demonoid, took about 5 minutes to dl. Download the program bit torrent and then just do a google search.

[Paradii]

Spoiler if you haven't seen the episode....



















Can someone in the medical field let me know if it was possible to survive roughly a 2-4 weeks in a coma with no one taking care of you. If the power goes out, your IV stops working right? How long does an IV bag last for? The power in the hospital seemed shaky at best. I have questions, I need answers!

Wouldn't you dehydrate in 3-5 days once the drip stops?

[NocturnalRob]

Wouldn't you dehydrate in 3-5 days once the drip stops?
Zombies are real...

[Paradii]

Zombies are real...

That is completely not the point. The premise behind this show is that zombies are real, not that humans can live without water.

[NocturnalRob]

That is completely not the point. The premise behind this show is that zombies are real, not that humans can live without water.
It is completely the point. If zombies are real, then who's to say that other things aren't? Suspension of disbelief, man!!

[Paradii]

It is completely the point. If zombies are real, then who's to say that other things aren't? Suspension of disbelief, man!!

He immediately went over to get water, so he was obviously dehydrated. But how long can you last. That's my question, because from watching this show and 28 days later, it's apparent that getting into a coma directly before a zombie outbreak is the safest course of action. So, I might be revising my survival plan and coma'ing myself at the first signs of zombies.

[Fallen]

I am going to try and check this out. Hopefully it is up On Demand already.

[Celephais]

You don't really know how long he was alone for .. for all we know the zombie outbreak happened and the hospital was a stronghold (it sure looked like it was, chained off area, bodies lined up outside). It's quite possible all of this was happening and there were still people changing out his IVs, and that the last person holding out in the hospital took off/taken out only shortly before he woke up. Hell the person taking care of him could have been in the hospital still, maybe they were taking care of a couple patients, holding out, that one lone nurse who refused to leave her patients, the doctor who loved her was trying to get her to leave and she wouldn't, he kept telling her that they needed to get out and the only way was down this hall, he opened the door, looking at her telling her to come, and a zombie grabbed him ARRGGGh, and she slammed the door shut and chained it. Then stayed with her patients ... if only she wasn't in the baby ward when he woke up she would have seen him there and would have been able to tell him what was going on.

Shortly after he left she came back to find his bed empty, fearing the worst, fearing that he had been turned into a zombie and was hiding somewhere in the hospital that she thought she had secured, madness setting as she spent weeks talking to him and their "baby" upstairs in the ward, and now he was gone. She couldn't bare the thought of him ambushing her after she spent so long caring for him, so she took the baby in her arms, laid down in his bed, and attached the IV to herself, injecting herself with a lethal dose of morphine, not knowing he had simply awoken.

[Paradii]

You don't really know how long he was alone for .. for all we know the zombie outbreak happened and the hospital was a stronghold (it sure looked like it was, chained off area, bodies lined up outside). It's quite possible all of this was happening and there were still people changing out his IVs, and that the last person holding out in the hospital took off/taken out only shortly before he woke up. Hell the person taking care of him could have been in the hospital still, maybe they were taking care of a couple patients, holding out, that one lone nurse who refused to leave her patients, the doctor who loved her was trying to get her to leave and she wouldn't, he kept telling her that they needed to get out and the only way was down this hall, he opened the door, looking at her telling her to come, and a zombie grabbed him ARRGGGh, and she slammed the door shut and chained it. Then stayed with her patients ... if only she wasn't in the baby ward when he woke up she would have seen him there and would have been able to tell him what was going on.

Shortly after he left she came back to find his bed empty, fearing the worst, fearing that he had been turned into a zombie and was hiding somewhere in the hospital that she thought she had secured, madness setting as she spent weeks talking to him and their "baby" upstairs in the ward, and now he was gone. She couldn't bare the thought of him ambushing her after she spent so long caring for him, so she took the baby in her arms, laid down in his bed, and attached the IV to herself, injecting herself with a lethal dose of morphine, not knowing he had simply awoken.


Hrmm, I don't buy it. His bandages were in such a stage that it can be assumed he wasn't under any type of medical care, but I appreciate the time and effort you have put into a thoughtful back story.

[Celephais]

Hrmm, I don't buy it. His bandages were in such a stage that it can be assumed he wasn't under any type of medical care, but I appreciate the time and effort you have put into a thoughtful back story.

Most of the bandages were taken/used, but they still had a log of Saline bags.

[Androidpk]

Most of the bandages were taken/used, but they still had a log of Saline bags.

Hehe, you said log.

[Androidpk]

Also, the only thing I didn't like about the show was the lack of explanation behind the zombies. Guessing that will come in a future episode though.

[Paradii]

Also, the only thing I didn't like about the show was the lack of explanation behind the zombies. Guessing that will come in a future episode though.

Well, it was explained as a virus. It's only been around for a month and civilization has grinded to a screeching halt. What more could be known about it?

[Celephais]

We know it produces a fever, I think he said something about how long it takes but I forget, and that they transmit it via bite and possibly by scratch.

It's going to be a short season, 6 episodes I believe. I'm kind of sad by that. I hope they're all 1.5hrs long but I doubt it.

[Androidpk]

I must have missed the part about the virus.

[Celephais]

Do not watch this if you haven't seen the first episode, but AMC has an animated comic that's basically an 8 minute pitch storyboard, kind of a neat watch. It uses the original graphic novel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riKsI6covPA

[Latrinsorm]

Is that the black guy from Jericho?He was excellent. The rest of the acting was meh, and the horse riding down an empty highway scene would have been 1000 times better if I hadn't already seen that scene with a wise-cracking Jewish guy in Independence Day. It still reached "ok, one more commercial break then I'll watch the rest tomorrow... ok, one more... ok, one more..." level for me, but I'm not totally feeling it yet.

I'm really happy they didn't pull a BOO during the "gee it's dark in here I better wait an inordinate amount of time between lighting my matches" scene, it was great thanks to not doing so.

[Androidpk]

Yeah, he's one of my favorites on the show so far, hope we see more of him in future episodes.

[calidus]

Good stuff.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Wondering if they'll follow along with the comics the whole way or make like True Blood and veer off depending on popularity of character, etc.

Honestly, I hope they just keep the series like the comic in the sense of balance, 40 percent terror, 40 percent sadness, and 20 percent "oh god I shouldn't be laughing but I am".

[pabstblueribbon]

Wait wait wait wait. Stop the fucking fun bus. This was a comic?

If it fucking deviates one iota I will shit on it. So hard. With poop.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Wait wait wait wait. Stop the fucking fun bus. This was a comic?

If it fucking deviates one iota I will shit on it. So hard. With poop.

An on-going comic that is still being released, even.

[Androidpk]

I wouldn't mind if they deviated in certain areas, there some parts of the comic I didn't care for one bit.

[Fallen]

I've never even seen the comic, so i'm lucky there. I enjoyed the first episode. If it maintains this level of quality I will be watching the show for a long time.

[Liberi Fatali]

For those of you that don't want to download the episode, AMC is streaming the first episode only for a while. It can be seen here:

http://blogs.amctv.com/the-walking-dead/2010/11/full-episode-1-online.php

[pabstblueribbon]

I wouldn't mind if they deviated in certain areas, there some parts of the comic I didn't care for one bit.

Eh, that was just random babble generated from a half a bottle of scotch. I like the show either way.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Reading through the letters column in the more recent editions shines some light on the "how true to the comics will it be?" angle.

Apparently they're trying to stick to the main arc but there will be changes and surprises, so that people who've read the comics aren't necessarily watching a series where they know exactly what will happen when.

[GSKynthelig]

Reading through the letters column in the more recent editions shines some light on the "how true to the comics will it be?" angle.

Apparently they're trying to stick to the main arc but there will be changes and surprises, so that people who've read the comics aren't necessarily watching a series where they know exactly what will happen when.

I like the sound of that and I need to read the comics now as well. I saw them in Border's the other day but didn't realize they were the same series.

[Liberi Fatali]

New episode tonight!

There was one zombie it kept showing repeatedly when he got into the city -- I wonder if he is someone special. I honestly thought, after it showed a close up of this particular zombie twice, that he was still alive and was just dressed as a zombie and he was the one that radio'd in the tank.

Obviously, that's probably not right -- but did anyone else notice the close up of this particular zombie? Let me see if I can find a picture of him.

[Liberi Fatali]

Well, I found a picture of him. The guy on the right.

http://blogs.amctv.com/the-walking-dead/TWD-Robert-Kirkman-RT-560.jpg

[pabstblueribbon]

Well, I found a picture of him. The guy on the right.

http://blogs.amctv.com/the-walking-dead/TWD-Robert-Kirkman-RT-560.jpg

Shit, thanks for reminding me.

[Back]

Just finished the first episode at AMC’s site.

http://www.amctv.com/originals/The-Walking-Dead/video

Very nice addition to the zombie genre. AMC rocks.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I'm watching episode 2, right now. Lots of creepiness so far and already making pretty strong divergences from the comic.

[pabstblueribbon]

I'm watching episode 2, right now. Lots of creepiness so far and already making pretty strong divergences from the comic.

The uh.. opening scene was interesting.

[4a6c1]

Hey where are you guys finding episode 2 on the internets.

[Liberi Fatali]

Hey where are you guys finding episode 2 on the internets.

I doubt it's up yet anywhere, it's just now airing on live television.

[Back]

As an aside... loved the COD: Black Ops commercial. Hilarious.

[Ardwen]

One more thing! He was an organ donor.

[Paradii]

Fuck you east coast, I still have two hours before its on.

[Back]

SPOILER ALERT

This is a first for the zombie genre. Serialization. It makes sense. All the good zombie flicks are full of big personalities. Strong yet every day people stuck in the crazy situation of having to defend against/combat the living dead. A two hour movie can only explore the big characters so much. A series can go way more in depth.

I think one of the reasons this genre is so entertaining to me is that the film makers can really explore the depth of human emotion because it is juxtaposed with insane violence. In one scene in the first episode a man who is protecting his son from the zombie onslaught sees his now zombied wife and is conflicted on whether or not to blow her brains out. Shes just a dumb walking pile of dead meat yet he sees her innocence and the wife he still loves...

THE SHIT IS DEEP YO!

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

SPOILER. IF YOU SEE THIS AND HAVE NOT SEEN EPISODE 2, THEN SCROLL UP.

I am blown away at how they handled the street scene. There was a 'cover yourself in gore and blend in with the walkers' part in the comic but it wasn't terribly suspenseful or anything.. this definitely was (and I mean before the rain) and just really brought into full focus to me at how terrifying their existence is.

I'm enjoying the dark humor.. the organ donor thing made me chuckle.

I think the disgust/revulsion/sadness while Rick was hatcheting up the corpse to use will serve to contrast with a scene/scenes later on.. I'm going to bet that as the series goes on, their disgust and visceral reactions will become deadened due to over-exposure to daily horror and awfulness.

Finally, in the closing scene was anyone else watching and wanting to yell at the screen, WTF GLENN? STOP BURNING THE PRECIOUS GASOLINE!

[Androidpk]

Loved it so much I watched the encore episode as well.

[Drinin]

Still in love with this after the 2nd episode. Called the cable company after the premiere for the dvr hookup just for this (and the song of fire and ice series whenever it airs).

[Kitsun]

Was anyone else reminded of Shortround from Temple of Doom? Just all grown up...

[diethx]

This show is so damn suspenseful, i'm thoroughly on edge for the majority of the episode and yelling at the tv. As soon as I heard the first bit of thunder i'm like "fuck, fuck, fuck fuckfuckfukcu".

It has a surprising lack of black zombies though, what with them being in Atlanta.

[peam]

Really enjoyed the episode last night.

I have some minor qualms with the zombies. Listed by descending level of egregiousness.

1. Why are zombies climbing fucking fences? ZOMBIES DO NOT CLIMB.
2. Zombies are moving too fast - running even.
3. Zombie using a tool - block/brick to crack window in storefront. NAY.

[peam]

It has a surprising lack of black zombies though, what with them being in Atlanta.

They probably sent the black people to the Astrodome.

[Paradii]

Really enjoyed the episode last night.

I have some minor qualms with the zombies. Listed by descending level of egregiousness.

1. Why are zombies climbing fucking fences? ZOMBIES DO NOT CLIMB.
2. Zombies are moving too fast - running even.
3. Zombie using a tool - block/brick to crack window in storefront. NAY.

Could it be that they are trying to allude to that maybe subtle remainders of the zombies humanity remain? I.E. Zombie black mom returning to the house she died in nightly?

I THINK YES.

[peam]

Could it be that they are trying to allude to that maybe subtle remainders of the zombies humanity remain? I.E. Zombie black mom returning to the house she died in nightly?

I THINK YES.

I think NO.

The lingering humanity of zombies is expressed, at least in good zombie film, as the undead returning to places familiar, so you're correct in providing the example of black zombie mom as an example.

However, this has nothing to do with a zombie's physical capacity. By your logic, it would be acceptable for a group of zombies who were baseball fans to play a game of stick-ball in an alleyway.

[Androidpk]

I think NO.

The lingering humanity of zombies is expressed, at least in good zombie film, as the undead returning to places familiar, so you're correct in providing the example of black zombie mom as an example.

However, this has nothing to do with a zombie's physical capacity. By your logic, it would be acceptable for a group of zombies who were baseball fans to play a game of stick-ball in an alleyway.

Sorry to burst your bubble but zombies, in this sense, are not real.

[peam]

Sorry to burst your bubble but zombies, in this sense, are not real yet.

Fixed that for you.

[4a6c1]

They probably sent the black people to the Astrodome.

rofl

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I think NO.

The lingering humanity of zombies is expressed, at least in good zombie film, as the undead returning to places familiar, so you're correct in providing the example of black zombie mom as an example.

However, this has nothing to do with a zombie's physical capacity. By your logic, it would be acceptable for a group of zombies who were baseball fans to play a game of stick-ball in an alleyway.

The Walking Dead zombies are a new creation. He's not using much of an existing zombie model beyond "they're dead and come back to life", i.e. he's not using Romero zombies or Max Brooks zombies.

A few things... the first is that displaying humanity doesn't have to mean the zombies decide to play a game of baseball, it's just showing that like when they were all still alive, they have their differences. Not every single zombie is EXACTLY like the next one. I like this tactic because of the nod to humanity and because I think it makes it scarier.

Also, I dunno if you've noticed but not every zombie can run or even walk fast, let alone climb.

The ones that are able to move quick (beyond just lunging) or climb (climb should also be used loosely here, since the zombies that have "climbed" were being pushed from underneath by a swarm of non-climbing zombies) have thus far looked 'fresher' than the ones that are slowly shambling and clumsy. It's still relatively early on from when everything first happened so there are a lot more recently animated zombies than old, deteriorated ones.

[diethx]

I think NO.

The lingering humanity of zombies is expressed, at least in good zombie film, as the undead returning to places familiar, so you're correct in providing the example of black zombie mom as an example.

However, this has nothing to do with a zombie's physical capacity. By your logic, it would be acceptable for a group of zombies who were baseball fans to play a game of stick-ball in an alleyway.

...or these zombies are a bit of a cross between traditional zombies and 28 Days Later zombies? Who cares - I like how they're doing the zombies in this show... makes for more suspense. And the fact that zombies aren't real pretty much gives the writers room for artistic license.

[peam]

The Walking Dead zombies are a new creation. He's not using much of an existing zombie model beyond "they're dead and come back to life", i.e. he's not using Romero zombies or Max Brooks zombies.

A few things... the first is that displaying humanity doesn't have to mean the zombies decide to play a game of baseball, it's just showing that like when they were all still alive, they have their differences. Not every single zombie is EXACTLY like the next one. I like this tactic because of the nod to humanity and because I think it makes it scarier.

Also, I dunno if you've noticed but not every zombie can run or even walk fast, let alone climb.

The ones that are able to move quick (beyond just lunging) or climb (climb should also be used loosely here, since the zombies that have "climbed" were being pushed from underneath by a swarm of non-climbing zombies) have thus far looked 'fresher' than the ones that are slowly shambling and clumsy. It's still relatively early on from when everything first happened so there are a lot more recently animated zombies than old, deteriorated ones.

If the quick zombies are being used in order to remain true to the source material, which I am admittedly not familiar with, that is fine.. I guess. I just hold Romero's zombies as standard.

[Paradii]

Darwin devoted an entire chapter to zombie natural selection, where he expected in the case of a zombie pandemic, zombies that mastered the use of tools first would thrive. It's science.

[diethx]

Oh also, i've been meaning to say this and kept forgetting.

Rick's wife is a whore.

[Back]

Even if you go back to the original Night of the Living Dead in the very first scene we see the typical zombie lumber until it is right up on you and then its extremely aggressive and physical using a rock to try and smash the window of a car to get Barbara.

In the original Day of the Dead the zombie Bub, an ex soldier, fires a pistol.

Clearly zombies can navigate stairways and escalators proficiently enough that climbing a ladder or fence isn’t that far of a stretch. In fact I think in Return of the Living Dead that chicks boyfriend was climbing a ladder to get to her screaming that he wanted to eat her braaaaaiaaiaiiiiinnnnnnnnssss!

Obviously you are not at all versed with the genre, newb.

[peam]

Even if you go back to the original Night of the Living Dead in the very first scene we see the typical zombie lumber until it is right up on you and then its extremely aggressive and physical using a rock to try and smash the window of a car to get Barbara.

In the original Day of the Dead the zombie Bub, an ex soldier, fires a pistol.

Clearly zombies can navigate stairways and escalators proficiently enough that climbing a ladder or fence isn’t that far of a stretch. In fact I think in Return of the Living Dead that chicks boyfriend was climbing a ladder to get to her screaming that he wanted to eat her braaaaaiaaiaiiiiinnnnnnnnssss!

Obviously you are not at all versed with the genre, newb.

The Zombie Godfather, George Romero and Simon Fucking Pegg insist that the agile zombie is fucking wrong.

End of story.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7280793.stm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/nov/04/television-simon-pegg-dead-set

[Androidpk]

Oh also, i've been meaning to say this and kept forgetting.

Rick's wife is a whore.

Do you get the feeling she was seeing that cop Shane before the zombie outbreak? I know I did.

[Androidpk]

The Zombie Godfather, George Romero and Simon Fucking Pegg insist that the agile zombie is fucking wrong.

End of story.


Who cares what he thinks? Romero is just jealous because he didn't think of it first, and because his last couple of zombie movies were all trash.

[diethx]

Do you get the feeling she was seeing that cop Shane before the zombie outbreak? I know I did.

Not really, but it's possible. You would think so from the very first conversation you saw between Rick and Shane in the cop car, before he got shot. Where he's talking about how his wife was constantly pissed or w/e at him. That would lend to the idea that she was cheating on him (with someone, not necessarily Shane).

I really didn't think of that though as I was watching it, I just figured they were thrown together and it evolved quickly due to the trauma of the zombie outbreak and surviving together, etc.

I think she's a whore though for just leaving her comatose husband in the hospital instead of taking him with them on their escape. It's not like Rick needed to stay on machines for life support, so they just left him there to be eaten. Sure, he would've been a hassle, but it's her fucking husband and child's father, ffs. You take him with you even if he's in a coma, and you take care of him.

Granted there could've been something barring them from getting him before their escape, but without having been shown anything like that...

she = whore.

[peam]

Who cares what he thinks? Romero is just jealous because he didn't think of it first, and because his last couple of zombie movies were all trash.

Yeah and if Bram Stoker was still alive, he'd probably be pissed he didn't think of sparkly vampires.

[diethx]

Yeah and if Bram Stoker was still alive, he'd probably be pissed he didn't think of sparkly vampires.

Dude, are you seriously equating these zombies with Twilight nobs?

For shame.

[Androidpk]

There are two reasons why I thought they may have been having an affair. One, like you said, was how she was acting distant and angry. Then there's also the cops attitude towards women. The jokes he was making about their stupidity. But when it came to the other guy's wife he seemed pretty caring, though that could have just been cause of their friendship.

I still say whore.

[peam]

Dude, are you seriously equating these zombies with Twilight nobs?

For shame.

I AM A TRADITIONALIST

[diethx]

There are two reasons why I thought they may have been having an affair. One, like you said, was how she was acting distant and angry. Then there's also the cops attitude towards women. The jokes he was making about their stupidity. But when it came to the other guy's wife he seemed pretty caring, though that could have just been cause of their friendship.

I still say whore.

Yeah I just attributed it to the fact that they seemed to be best friends. Who knows, though.

[Celephais]

Was anyone else reminded of Shortround from Temple of Doom? Just all grown up...
He's either shortround or the kid from up (although I think they were the sam too)

Really enjoyed the episode last night.

I have some minor qualms with the zombies. Listed by descending level of egregiousness.

1. Why are zombies climbing fucking fences? ZOMBIES DO NOT CLIMB.
2. Zombies are moving too fast - running even.
3. Zombie using a tool - block/brick to crack window in storefront. NAY.
Welcome to the new world of actually scary zombies. I love that zombies are fast now, zombies are more often than not motivated by instincts and ignore pain, why would they not just go full out on everything ignoring muscle fatigue and pushing through any rigamortis effects. It wasn't like he was using a dremel to get in, he smashed a rock, I like that, zombies don't have to be simple. Climbing is just a natural thing, especially when they're being pressured by lots of other zombies.

Oh also, i've been meaning to say this and kept forgetting.

Rick's wife is a whore.
Yeah, she's a whore. I didn't really think that she was having an affair beforehand, but that would make sense, this doesn't make her any less of a whore though. I want the zombies to get her.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I wouldn't really call any of the zombies 'agile' either, it's not like those infected things in I Am Legend or the 'zombies' in 28 Days Later. Yes, they do more than just shamble and bump into things but like Cel said, it's not like they're using power tools, or grappling hooks, or are organizing strategic offenses.

[Androidpk]

Because everyone should be prepared.

http://zombietools.net/

[Whimsi]

I think she's a whore though for just leaving her comatose husband in the hospital instead of taking him with them on their escape. It's not like Rick needed to stay on machines for life support, so they just left him there to be eaten. Sure, he would've been a hassle, but it's her fucking husband and child's father, ffs. You take him with you even if he's in a coma, and you take care of him.

Granted there could've been something barring them from getting him before their escape, but without having been shown anything like that...

I disagree. I think taking care to get your kid to safety and taking care of him would trump going on a suicide rescue mission to save a human vegetable. I think even the comatose cop would have preferred she save their kid and not risk themselves for him.

That said, I think its going to turn out that the other cop lied and told her that her husband was dead or turned into a zombie already. I think the writers are going to set him up to be a bad guy later on.

Also, yes, she is a huge fucking whore.

[AnticorRifling]

I disagree. I think taking care to get your kid to safety and taking care of him would trump going on a suicide rescue mission to save a human vegetable.

Chad has his own thread, thanks.

[Paradii]

Chad has his own thread, thanks.

We truly are blessed that he survived, so we can continue to make fun of him.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Chad has his own thread, thanks.

I lol'd.

[Celephais]

That said, I think its going to turn out that the other cop lied and told her that her husband was dead or turned into a zombie already. I think the writers are going to set him up to be a bad guy later on.

I absolutely agree, having not read any of the graphic novel I'm under the impression they want us to dislike him.

[Androidpk]

There is definitely a difference in character between Rick and Shane. Rick is always putting himself out in danger for the sake of others, while Shane seems to always want to hang back and not take any risks. There are examples of both characters doing this before and after the zombie outbreak.

[diethx]

There is definitely a difference in character between Rick and Shane. Rick is always putting himself out in danger for the sake of others, while Shane seems to always want to hang back and not take any risks. There are examples of both characters doing this before and after the zombie outbreak.

Yeah most definitely.

However, I disagree that he wasn't worth an attempt because he was a human vegetable, or whatever. He obviously wasn't a vegetable (brain dead, only basic stem functions still working). If he were, i'd probably agree. But being in a coma and being brain dead are two completely different things.

I'm not saying she should put her kid in harm's way... but she definitely should have at least tried to check if her husband was actually dead or not before running off with his partner to slob his nob.

[pabstblueribbon]

The whole.. shambling vs fast zombie thing..

I think it just boils down to the zombies physical state at the time as said before. Really decayed - Shambly. No legs - Crawly.. etcetera. The brains decay too so that would explain why newer zombies might be 'smarter' and able to use tools.

Yeah.

[Back]

The Zombie Godfather, George Romero and Simon Fucking Pegg insist that the agile zombie is fucking wrong.

End of story.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7280793.stm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/nov/04/television-simon-pegg-dead-set

From the first link:


"My work is my work, and I don't particularly care what other people are doing," he says.

And The Zombie Godfather, George Romero had a zombie using a rock to break a window in the opening scene of his first fucking movie thats so old its in black and fucking white.

I enjoyed reading both links so thank you for those. I particularly like this passage from Pegg...


I know it is absurd to debate the rules of a reality that does not exist, but this genuinely irks me. You cannot kill a vampire with an MDF stake; werewolves can't fly; zombies do not run. It's a misconception, a bastardisation that diminishes a classic movie monster. The best phantasmagoria uses reality to render the inconceivable conceivable. The speedy zombie seems implausible to me, even within the fantastic realm it inhabits. A biological agent, I'll buy. Some sort of super-virus? Sure, why not. But death? Death is a disability, not a superpower. It's hard to run with a cold, let alone the most debilitating malady of them all.

More significantly, the fast zombie is bereft of poetic subtlety. As monsters from the id, zombies win out over vampires and werewolves when it comes to the title of Most Potent Metaphorical Monster. Where their pointy-toothed cousins are all about sex and bestial savagery, the zombie trumps all by personifying our deepest fear: death. Zombies are our destiny writ large. Slow and steady in their approach, weak, clumsy, often absurd, the zombie relentlessly closes in, unstoppable, intractable.

But that does not mean there cannot be something of an evolution of the genre. An in-depth exploration is always appreciated to continue any favored subject. If zombies still have some motor function in their brains it stands to reason that they might still have adrenaline. As I described in the scene from Night of the Living Dead a zombie without prey may lumber about seeming pointless and awkward until it gets a scent of living flesh and brains then suddenly springs into bestial aggression to fulfill it’s only mission in death.

Anyway, all silliness aside... check this link Peam-o.

Ursula 1000 - Zombie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB3OlkRql2s)

[Divone]

Zombies being able to run is the equivalent to vampires sparkling in the sun.

It's just wrong.

[diethx]

So don't watch it.

[CrystalTears]

I'm not saying she should put her kid in harm's way... but she definitely should have at least tried to check if her husband was actually dead or not before running off with his partner to slob his nob.Would you have risked your life walking into a zombie-infested hospital to see if your husband was still in that coma? Not disagreeing that some kind of confirmation would have been nice, but it was probably not as simple as "not in the bed, he's dead/zombie, we can move on".

Arriving at the base should be quite interesting.

[NocturnalRob]

Did anyone actually think this episode was shit? I just found the emotions of the characters to be very disjointed and cobbled. Granted, I've never been part of a zombie infestation (yet...), but the whole interaction between the racist guy and the black guy was pretty retarded.

I'm gonna sling racial epithets at you, beat the shit out of you, and spit on you. But then you're actually going to consider freeing me, not once but twice? And then you actually feel bad when your fat ass falls and drops the key? And you chain the door closed so the zombies can't get to him? Totally unbelievable.

You know that racist fuck is gonna come back later too, using the hack saw to free himself or some shit.

[CrystalTears]

That was the only part I didn't like. I understand they're trying to emphasize the point of uniting as humans versus zombies. But really, that whole fight, racial slurs and such just seemed overplayed and rather ridiculous.

[NocturnalRob]

I won't say it ruined the episode for me, but did they really have to incorporate such an obvious attempt at diversity? white guy, white woman, asian guy, black guy, black woman, old guy, little kid, blah blah blah.

[CrystalTears]

It didn't ruin the whole episode for me either. I get what you're saying. :)

[Paradii]

I won't say it ruined the episode for me, but did they really have to incorporate such an obvious attempt at diversity? white guy, white woman, asian guy, black guy, black woman, old guy, little kid, blah blah blah.


Yeah, I hope when the real zombie apocalypse happens we can finally get rid of those damn Portuguese and Dutch.

[NocturnalRob]

Yeah, I hope when the real zombie apocalypse happens we can finally get rid of those damn Portuguese and Dutch.
There's only two things I hate in this world--people who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

[CrystalTears]

There's only two things I hate in this world--people who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.
Do I make you horny, baby? Do I? Do I make you randy?

[diethx]

Would you have risked your life walking into a zombie-infested hospital to see if your husband was still in that coma? Not disagreeing that some kind of confirmation would have been nice, but it was probably not as simple as "not in the bed, he's dead/zombie, we can move on".

Arriving at the base should be quite interesting.

Yes, I would have. Now, I don't have children and I don't know what i'd do if I did, but as it stands right now, I most certainly would go in and check on my husband. Honestly I wouldn't want to survive the zombie apocalypse without him. (and I don't want to bone any of his friends, lol)

[Latrinsorm]

There's a vague fuzziness to the zombies that's bothering me at the moment. I remember in the first episode the guy from Jericho saying something about the gas having been off for a month, which seems to work well with the general state of the survivors, but a lot of the zombies are still in great shape. What were they eating before the deputy brought a horse for 12 of them? Zombies or no zombies, energy expenditure has to be accounted for, and the one we saw eating a rat isn't doing it for me.

/frown

[Androidpk]

What were they eating before the deputy brought a horse for 12 of them? Zombies or no zombies, energy expenditure has to be accounted for, and the one we saw eating a rat isn't doing it for me.

/frown

The containment camps along with the rest of the Atlanta population?

[Latrinsorm]

I guess it's hard to tell without knowing how many are zombified now, how many were shot, etc. Even so, it seems like the zombies wouldn't be too keen on rationing out their food supply, but would simply gorge themselves and murder pretty much everyone at once.

[Paradii]

I guess it's hard to tell without knowing how many are zombified now, how many were shot, etc. Even so, it seems like the zombies wouldn't be too keen on rationing out their food supply, but would simply gorge themselves and murder pretty much everyone at once.

Well, no one has studied energy expenditure rates in zombies. If maintaining a certain body temperature is not needed as a zombie, the calories needed for "survival" would be greatly reduced since the majority of our energy is used for thermo-regulation.

They be more reptilian in this case, and could be able to maintain their weight by consuming far less calories. Food for thought.

[Bobmuhthol]

Zombies might also have a very efficient photosynthesis process.

[Celephais]

Food for thought.

BRRRRAAAAAINNNSSS

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

New episode tonight! I think there will be some blood and gore but largely I predict the episode will be centered around character/group development.

[Drisco]

I'm really loving this.

[pabstblueribbon]

Yes, I would have. Now, I don't have children and I don't know what i'd do if I did, but as it stands right now, I most certainly would go in and check on my husband. Honestly I wouldn't want to survive the zombie apocalypse without him. (and I don't want to bone any of his friends, lol)

Ohhh and the plot thickens...

[Ardwen]

character development and group breakdown is more like it, good episode though

[Hips]

<3 Norman Reedus

[Tisket]

Love the show but come on, do the writers have to be so obvious with the plot devices? Who didn't foresee the handcuffed dude dismembering himself to get free right from the beginning of the episode? It was hardly a shocker.

I did enjoy the abusive guy getting his face bashed in though. What a dysfunctional little dynamic the group has going.

[pabstblueribbon]

character development and group breakdown is more like it, good episode though

You didn't hear the part where the wife was pissed off at her new lover? Cause he told her that her husband was dead?

[Back]

Love the show but come on, do the writers have to be so obvious with the plot devices? Who didn't foresee the handcuffed dude dismembering himself to get free right from the beginning of the episode? It was hardly a shocker.

I suspected it last week when he knocked over the toolkit with the hack saw in it. I thought after the black guy dropped the key he was going to throw the hack saw at him and say good luck cracker ass mother fucker.

Hey maybe I should write for the show.

[Androidpk]

Wouldn't a hacksaw have been able to cut the handcuffs or that small ass metal pipe it was cuffed to?

[Fallen]

Wouldn't a hacksaw have been able to cut the handcuffs or that small ass metal pipe it was cuffed to?

Handcuffs no, but that little fucking pipe? Yes. How the HELL did he not get the saw after days of trying while fresh, but manage it when completely dehydrated and near death? Still, fucking awesome show. Telling everyone I know to watch it.

[Back]

Wouldn't a hacksaw have been able to cut the handcuffs or that small ass metal pipe it was cuffed to?

Or his wrist... Bwa ha ha!

[Paradii]

Wouldn't a hacksaw have been able to cut the handcuffs or that small ass metal pipe it was cuffed to?

I've cut a muffler off a F-250 with a dull ass hacksaw. So, I would say yes.

[pabstblueribbon]

Handcuffs no, but that little fucking pipe? Yes. How the HELL did he not get the saw after days of trying while fresh, but manage it when completely dehydrated and near death? Still, fucking awesome show. Telling everyone I know to watch it.

Yeah, I was like, cut the rusty ass pipe maybe? Outloud to the tv. Then I was told to stop talking to the TV.

He was delirious though and a sudden sense of urgency via the zombies and the doors probably threw rational thinking out the window.

Then again, dumb for not already exhausting every option to get the hacksaw.

But I digress..

[Fallen]

Yeah, I was like, cut the rusty ass pipe maybe? Outloud to the tv. Then I was told to stop talking to the TV.

He was delirious though and a sudden sense of urgency via the zombies and the doors probably threw rational thinking out the window.

Then again, dumb for not already exhausting every option to get the hacksaw.

But I digress..

My thought was why he wouldn't take off all of his clothes to bind them together, forming a longer reach to grab the saw. He could have easily gotten it over the course of a few hours. I guess racist hillbillies aren't the best of problem solvers, though.

[Ardwen]

in general theres no hacksaw in the world that will cut thru handcuffs, hardened steel will just chew that kind of blade up.

[diethx]

I suspected it last week when he knocked over the toolkit with the hack saw in it.

This. But yeah.. that little pipe he was chained to was nothing and i'm surprised he didn't try earlier to cut through that rather than wait 'til the last minute and saw off his hand. Also when he was kicking the big vent thing i'm like uhhh, how about kicking the small, rusty pipe you're chained to. You know, the thing that might give and let you loose. I knew he'd derp it up and go for his arm though, and was kind of hoping he'd slice his radial artery and bleed out.

[CrystalTears]

Did we not learn anything from Saw? That idiot apparently did. :)

[4a6c1]

sad that i keep missing this and/or catching it half way through.

[Latrinsorm]

How the HELL did he not get the saw after days of trying while fresh, but manage it when completely dehydrated and near death?THOUGHTS

It's not clear whether he actually died or not. Normally I would expect sawing a hand off to kill a person, but the teaser for the next episode made it sound like they were searching for him. All the zombies that were in the stairwell (and most of the ones in the store proper) mysteriously vanished: why would they give up on meat, especially spurting fresh meat? Now, the teaser also indicated a new gang. WHAT IF they heard him making a ruckus on the roof, barged up there killing zombies left and right, busted the lock, made him prove his worth by (or were sociopathic enough to force him into) cutting his hand off, provided some sort of medical attention to keep him from bleeding to death, chained the door shut on their way out and locked it with some other padlock that the black guy mistook for the same one.(!!!!)

OR

Maybe the new gang are just cannibals, and they hacked his hand off to make it easier to carry his dead body back to their base. It's not clear in either case why they'd bother re-locking the door behind them, though.

[Fallen]

I didn't think he died, I just think if he was going to manage to lasso that hacksaw he would have done it while he was still lucid.

[Latrinsorm]

Somehow I left this part out, but that's precisely what prompted that train of thought for me. He didn't reach the saw. Another guy handed it to him and told him to cut his hand off.

[Fallen]

Hmm. Interesting theory. I didn't see scenes from the next show. Dvr never records the whole thing.

[Celephais]

Something I've kind of wondered, if handcuffed, wouldn't it be possible, although a pretty gruesome surgery to do yourself, to instead of hacking your whole hand off, just take off like two fingers and some meat of your palm? Granted you might just lose the whole thing anyway without proper medical attention, but at least if you make it you're left with a hand that's still sort of useful.

[Back]

Something I've kind of wondered, if handcuffed, wouldn't it be possible, although a pretty gruesome surgery to do yourself, to instead of hacking your whole hand off, just take off like two fingers and some meat of your palm? Granted you might just lose the whole thing anyway without proper medical attention, but at least if you make it you're left with a hand that's still sort of useful.

Certainly a carve would work. Of course, I would go little finger side first because the opposable thumb is really cool and useful.

[Fallen]

It would certainly make sense to cut only what you need off, but I guess it makes for a less dramatic scene to have a lot of blood and a bit of meat in a pool instead of a whole hand.

[Tisket]

Something I've kind of wondered, if handcuffed, wouldn't it be possible, although a pretty gruesome surgery to do yourself, to instead of hacking your whole hand off, just take off like two fingers and some meat of your palm? Granted you might just lose the whole thing anyway without proper medical attention, but at least if you make it you're left with a hand that's still sort of useful.

If nothing else, the PC has taught me proper hacksaw etiquette if I ever find myself handcuffed to a pipe during the zombie apocalypse.

[Paradii]

Cutting your own hand off with a hacksaw would be close to impossible unless the tissue involved had already died (i.e. Aron Ralston and Jonathan Metz). So I think Latrinsorm is probably correct. I think there was another individual present.

[Bobmuhthol]

You can also break a bunch of bones with blunt force and squeeze through the handcuffs but I don't know how well that would heal.

[Paradii]

You can also break a bunch of bones with blunt force and squeeze through the handcuffs but I don't know how well that would heal.

I think all you need to do is dislocate your thumb. This would heal pretty well even in a zombie world.

[Cephalopod]

You can also break a bunch of bones with blunt force and squeeze through the handcuffs but I don't know how well that would heal.

A lot better than bleeding to death, that's for sure.

[Bobmuhthol]

I think all you need to do is dislocate your thumb. This would heal pretty well even in a zombie world.

I guess it depends on how tight the handcuffs are. My hand is so much larger than my wrist that I would definitely need to do more damage than dislocating my thumb.

[AnticorRifling]

It would require more than a dislocation.

[Paradii]

It would require more than a dislocation.

The internet says a dislocation of the thumb can be enough, but I agree that it depends on the tightness of the handcuffs.

http://visual.merriam-webster.com/images/human-being/anatomy/skeleton/hand.jpg


Remember, the thumb is much bigger than you think it is.

[pabstblueribbon]

The internet says a dislocation of the thumb can be enough, but I agree that it depends on the tightness of the handcuffs.

http://visual.merriam-webster.com/images/human-being/anatomy/skeleton/hand.jpg


Remember, the thumb is much bigger than you think it is.

Just ask Billy the Kid.

He had little hands and big wrists.

In Young Guns II anyways..

[Liberi Fatali]

THOUGHTS

It's not clear whether he actually died or not. Normally I would expect sawing a hand off to kill a person, but the teaser for the next episode made it sound like they were searching for him. All the zombies that were in the stairwell (and most of the ones in the store proper) mysteriously vanished: why would they give up on meat, especially spurting fresh meat? Now, the teaser also indicated a new gang. WHAT IF they heard him making a ruckus on the roof, barged up there killing zombies left and right, busted the lock, made him prove his worth by (or were sociopathic enough to force him into) cutting his hand off, provided some sort of medical attention to keep him from bleeding to death, chained the door shut on their way out and locked it with some other padlock that the black guy mistook for the same one.(!!!!)

OR

Maybe the new gang are just cannibals, and they hacked his hand off to make it easier to carry his dead body back to their base. It's not clear in either case why they'd bother re-locking the door behind them, though.

Did you see what color the new gang was? Most of them looked Spanish. This guy is as racist as I am -- there's no way I could see him begging and pleading with them to save him, let alone chopping his hand off at their command.

Although, he did sort of plea to the black guy to let him free.

[Fallen]

Although, he did sort of plea to the black guy to let him free.

This. He was only overtly racist when he had a gun and others did not.

[Liberi Fatali]

I hope that one day you find yourself in a life or death situation and the ONLY way to survive it is at the mercy of a black person. And I hope they are not benevolent.

I hope that one day your cousin gets car jacked and shot in the face for no reason by a god damn nig-nog one day like mine did, you thundering fuck.

[Fallen]

I hope that one day your cousin gets car jacked and shot in the face for no reason by a god damn nig-nog one day like mine did, you thundering fuck.

If the guy was white and the killing just as random would you hate your own race? Wastes of human life come pretty much equally in all colors.

[Tisket]

I hope that one day your cousin gets car jacked and shot in the face for no reason by a god damn nig-nog one day like mine did, you thundering fuck.

And everyone (else) lived happily ever after.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Looking forward to tonights episode!

[Liberi Fatali]

Okay, what the hell. No one commented on Sunday's episode?

I for one think Murl's (spelling??) dumbass brought a van loaded full of zombies up to the camp. How else would so many of them get up there?

That sucks that so many people got killed, especially the sister. I was happy to see the fat wife abuser die.

I was certainly surprised at the Spanish gang. I hated them immensely at the first meeting, but then after seeing what they were doing...

This show keeps me on edge. I nearly cried when he reunited with his family the first time, and I was shouting at the T.V. when the calvary came and reinforced the camp with the guns. Pure awesome.

[CrystalTears]

I for one think Murl's (spelling??) dumbass brought a van loaded full of zombies up to the camp. How else would so many of them get up there?I thought the same thing. Unless one of those fuckers learned to drive, someone had to have shipped them there. If they walked there on their own, there would have been more.

[Androidpk]

I was sad to see the sister die. Just before it happened I was like damn.. she's pretty hot.

:(

[Hips]

I'm enjoying the series, but I feel like parts of it are too obvious.

Merl/Murl/whatever cutting off his hand, as you guys already went over earlier in the thread...

And you had to have figured that the young blonde chick was going to die because of the big deal they made about the next day being her birthday, and her sister having acquired the mermaid necklace & wrapping paper. As soon as she went off by herself to pee I knew she was zombie food and wasn't going to make it to the next day.

/end rambling

[Liberi Fatali]

I was sad to see the sister die. Just before it happened I was like damn.. she's pretty hot.

:(

Yeah, there haven't been a lot of attractive people on the show (at least female wise). The wife that got abused -- she's hideous and looks like a lesbian. Rick's wife is probably the most attractive, and that isn't saying much.

[Liberi Fatali]

I'm enjoying the series, but I feel like parts of it are too obvious.

Merl/Murl/whatever cutting off his hand, as you guys already went over earlier in the thread...

And you had to have figured that the young blonde chick was going to die because of the big deal they made about the next day being her birthday, and her sister having acquired the mermaid necklace & wrapping paper. As soon as she went off by herself to pee I knew she was zombie food and wasn't going to make it to the next day.

/end rambling

To be honest, if the first Saw movie wouldn't have depicted a man chopping his hand off to escape, I sincerely believe no one would have expected it.

[Hips]

To be honest, if the first Saw movie wouldn't have depicted a man chopping his hand off to escape, I sincerely believe no one would have expected it.

Wasn't it his foot?

[CrystalTears]

Wasn't it his foot?
Yes

[Liberi Fatali]

Wasn't it his foot?

Oh, same thing. The premise is the same.

[diethx]

I dunno, I didn't think about Saw at all when I predicted he'd chop off his hand.

[Hips]

I dunno, I didn't think about Saw at all when I predicted he'd chop off his hand.

This. >_>

[CrystalTears]

I dunno, I didn't think about Saw at all when I predicted he'd chop off his hand.
I think he's just saying that it wasn't a surprise to see someone chop a body part off in Saw, much like it wasn't a surprise that Merl chopped his hand off.

[diethx]

That's not how I read what he said, but i'd agree with your statement/clarification/whatever.

[Tisket]

To be honest, if the first Saw movie wouldn't have depicted a man chopping his hand off to escape, I sincerely believe no one would have expected it.

Are you on drugs? There was a fucking hacksaw next to him while he was having a panic attack because the zombies were threatening to break down the door. It didn't take a huge leap of imagination (or the fucking Saw movie) to conclude that he was soon to be an amputee. Don't be retarded.

[Cephalopod]

One thing that Walking Dead does (well) just like a lot of zombie movies is they telegraph things way in advance, aka the hacksaw. The idea is that EVERYONE* sees it, EVERYONE* knows what is going to happen... and then you still go 'eww' when you see the disembodied hand laying there.

Similarly, I'm pretty certain Walking Dead has purposely dropped in a lot of these sort of telegraphed points, where they know everyone is going to yell at the TV: DON'T BE RETARDED!

* - except Jenovadeath

[Androidpk]

Someone is moody this morning.

[pabstblueribbon]

Isn't that called foreshadowing?

Derp.

[Cephalopod]

Isn't that called foreshadowing?

Derp.

http://i.imgur.com/wgQXV.jpg

[Latrinsorm]

ICP #1 has really put on some weight.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I didn't like the "I dreamt it then it happened!!!" part at the end of the last episode. Mysticism just doesn't seem to fit with the vibe of the show so far, it's been extremely earthy and mundane, even blunt. I don't want to deal with a prophet in this context, it just feels silly.

Did they have to make the guy who was a frequent guest lawyer on L&O the guy who spouted philosophy? As if it wasn't hard enough to forget him arguing res ipsa loquitur and the 4th Amendment.

I still can't figure out why I like this show!! But I still do.

[Liberi Fatali]

I wasn't too thrilled with last Sunday's episode. There was not much drama in it. Hell, there were hardly any zombies.

I wasn't a fan of that Jim character and could care less if they left him to Zombify or not.

I just hope they aren't stuck in the CDC place for episodes upon episodes. I'm still confused as to how all the military people got annihilated. Also, why the hell is there only one survivor in the CDC? What did this guy do, lock everyone out?

[Back]

SPOILER ALERT!!!


Do not read if you have not seen episode 5.












































I thought the whole thing with the sisters was done really well. At first it seemed like the older sister couldn’t accept the reality of her sister having been bit and then dying. Everyone was giving her space but trying to nudge her back to reality. Then she whips out a gun and everyone is all like ok this bitch is crazy better leave her alone. Let her ass get eat by her dead sister.

Then the beauty of it all. She stayed with her sister, who she felt she did not care for enough in life, until the moment she reawakened to tell her good bye properly and to blow her head off herself.

Brilliant.

[Liberi Fatali]

Okay, that part was done well, I'll agree. I was very hesitant to watch around those scenes (I'm a pansy for scary parts). She kept putting her face RIGHT next to the corpse -- I was just waiting for her to open her eyes and lunge at her neck. I'm glad they did it in a not-so-scary way, i.e., very gradually awakening.

There was one scene that scared the shit out of me. I think it had just showed the two sisters literally face to face, and then it INSTANTLY cut to a scene with the guy smashing heads with his pick axe and it made this horrendously loud noise RIGHT as it switched scenes. I jumped quite badly.

[Tisket]

The director and executive producer of the series Frank Darabont fired the entire writing staff apparently: http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/12/01/the-walking-dead-writers-dvd/

I think this could be a very good thing for the series actually. I know it's been entertaining so far but it's also been predictable and cliched (That Racist White Supremist Cracker and That Pissed-off Black Guy come to mind). Maybe new writers will be a good thing for season two.

[Latrinsorm]

Eventually they have to tie up "what happened to Merle" and "what happened to Lennie James' character", and it would be pretty embarrassing if they forced them together.

edit, SPOILER: I just checked, and both are listed in the credits for the next episode. Awesome.

[Paradii]

For the record, anyone that is waiting for a dead person to become a zombie to unzombiefy them is a fucking moron and instantly kicked out of my zombie survivor party.


And christ, a point blank headshot when the virus can be transmitted via blood into any orifice? C'mon, think with your heads people.

[Hips]

For the record, anyone that is waiting for a dead person to become a zombie to unzombiefy them is a fucking moron and instantly kicked out of my zombie survivor party.


^ this.

What if it had scratched her while it was waving its hands around, before she shot it? I don't care if it's one of your family members (or even one of mine), it's gotta die.

[peam]

Does anyone have a link to a preview of this week's episode that isn't just the 3 minute scene with the CDC doctor?

[Liberi Fatali]

What the FUDGE. I just realized that last Sunday's episode was the FINALE FOR SEASON 1? How the. Only 5 episodes? I thought I heard season 2 was set for 13 episodes. Why the hell was season 1 cut so short?

Anyway, thoughts on the episode?

I liked that they killed off that black lady -- she wasn't much of an actor. I was hoping the sister would stay and die too, she's thoroughly annoying.

The episode didn't have much action in it. I liked the very first scene that depicted Shane really did try to save Rick and truly thought he was dead. Why the hell were all the army people shooting EVERYONE, though?

Anyone know when the next episode will be?

[Fallen]

Apparently, next fucking October.

[Tisket]

I liked that they killed off that black lady -- she wasn't much of an actor.

Hard to do Oscar caliber acting when the writers and director don't give you shit for scenes.

[Hips]

I'm glad they fired the entire writing staff because after the finale, I really think they needed to. I didn't like it at all. Half the scenes seemed pointless- not what you want people thinking about your season finale.

[peam]

I'm glad they fired the entire writing staff because after the finale, I really think they needed to. I didn't like it at all. Half the scenes seemed pointless- not what you want people thinking about your season finale.

Not true:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/105916-Walking-Dead-Producers-Didnt-Axe-Writing-Staff

I thought the finale was fine. I love that it's a relatively slow burn.

[Liberi Fatali]

Eventually they have to tie up "what happened to Merle" and "what happened to Lennie James' character", and it would be pretty embarrassing if they forced them together.

edit, SPOILER: I just checked, and both are listed in the credits for the next episode. Awesome.

What the fuck, sir. I assumed the "next episode" meant the season finale, which was this past Sunday. I DIDN'T SEE MERLE OR LENNIE PRESENT, OR EVEN IN A FLASH BACK. What fibs you tell!

[Hips]

Not true:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/105916-Walking-Dead-Producers-Didnt-Axe-Writing-Staff

I thought the finale was fine. I love that it's a relatively slow burn.

Bah, lame. I don't like how obvious some of the plot stuff has been (as we've already discussed in this thread) and I still feel like parts of the finale weren't necessary. :(

[peam]

parts of the finale weren't necessary. :(

Which ones?

I thought it was awesome.

[Androidpk]

Overall I love the show. The writing needs improvement that's for sure, a lot of stuff that happens is way too predictable. Did anyone NOT think Shane was going to pop up in the Rec room as soon as the kids left, leaving the mom there alone prancing about in just a shirt?

[Latrinsorm]

What the fuck, sir. I assumed the "next episode" meant the season finale, which was this past Sunday. I DIDN'T SEE MERLE OR LENNIE PRESENT, OR EVEN IN A FLASH BACK. What fibs you tell!Rest assured, I have already filed complaints with the FCC, SAG, and Al Gore that information I found on the Internet about television credits was misleading.

I agree that the writers ought to have been fired. Why did the black lady decide to stay? Because she was a completely superfluous character... so she could. The characters who had been established as having bonds with other characters all left - wow what a coincidence!!!

[Androidpk]

Wish the older blond sister had been killed instead of the younger one :(

[Tisket]

Not true:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/105916-Walking-Dead-Producers-Didnt-Axe-Writing-Staff

I thought the finale was fine. I love that it's a relatively slow burn.

It's still going to be a new writing team for the next season. Possibly like some BBC series, they will engage freelance writers per episode:


Kirkman did admit that writing duties for The Walking Dead's second 13-episode season are still being worked out. "It's a little premature to be nailing down," he revealed. "I don't know if it's going to be a freelance situation or if we're going to have writers in a writers' room. That's something that's being worked on now."

I think it's a good move.

[cwolff]

Is tonight the start of the newest season?

[Dayko]

I'm watching it right now

[cwolff]

This kid almost has me rooting for the zombies.

[Bhaalizmo]

Is tonight the start of the newest season?

Nope. Tonight the season resumed after a 6 week break following the mid-season finale.

[subzero]

Well that was a fuckin snooze-fest.

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

Well that was a fuckin snooze-fest.

Seriously. Way to draw us back into the season...

If Michonne dies, I'll quit watching it.

[Parkbandit]

I'm completely bored with this show right now. It better pick up soon.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwhtxb5d3F1r6aoq4o1_250.gif

[Dayko]

I totally agree. :yawn:

[Neovik1]

Yeah... Last night's episode was boring.

[Warriorbird]

True Detective was a lot more entertaining this week.

[Back]

Raise your hand if you thought Daryl was going to end up banging her by the end of the episode.

[Jarvan]

I haven't watched the show in like.. 2 years. I love me zombie apocs.. but this show just seems.. dull.

[Warriorbird]

I haven't watched the show in like.. 2 years. I love me zombie apocs.. but this show just seems.. dull.

I thought season 3 was pretty awful. This year WAS improving.

[Back]

I thought the first half of this season... when they brought the governor back, was pretty slow. But this half of the season is getting more interesting.

[Dayko]

Raise your hand if you thought Daryl was going to end up banging her by the end of the episode.
Knowing Daryl, that wouldn't had happened. Daryl's my boy, I'm sure he knows what he's doing :)

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

I thought the first half of this season... when they brought the governor back, was pretty slow. But this half of the season is getting more interesting.

I'm looking forward to hearing the mullet rocking scientist explain the whole virus thing.

[Back]

I'm looking forward to hearing the mullet rocking scientist explain the whole virus thing.

Ya know... ok, it's a fictional series. Zombies. Got it. But I have to hand it to the writers. When the scientist shot the truck it did not blow up like you see in Holywood movies. Nope. Just a gas leak like what would really happen.

And yeah, I want to see whats up with those new people. Especially that two gun slinging latina!

[Warriorbird]

I'm looking forward to hearing the mullet rocking scientist explain the whole virus thing.

It won't contradict your views any. I like Abraham a lot though, in spite of his Republican military guy-ness. Politics doesn't matter so much in the post apocalyptic world.

[Jarvan]

It won't contradict your views any. I like Abraham a lot though, in spite of his Republican military guy-ness. Politics doesn't matter so much in the post apocalyptic world.

Correct, Politics don't mater in a post apoc world.

Except Gun Control. As in... you want control of as many guns as possible.

[cwolff]

Big Walking Dead tonight. Anyone still watching it?

[Back]

Big Walking Dead tonight. Anyone still watching it?

Nah. I like to watch an entire series and NOT watch the finale. Or, even better, not watch an entire series and ONLY watch the finale.

[Parkbandit]

Big Walking Dead tonight. Anyone still watching it?

It was the only good episode of this half season.

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

It was the only good episode of this half season.

No way, man. What about the, "I didn't destroy her brain, she'll come back," episode? I got a kick out of this season. Some slow parts but overall it was great.

[Warriorbird]

No way, man. What about the, "I didn't destroy her brain, she'll come back," episode? I got a kick out of this season. Some slow parts but overall it was great.

I'm gonna go with Ninjas on this. In spite of the incredibly stupid Daryl/Beth episode, that was great television.

[subzero]

No way, man. What about the, "I didn't destroy her brain, she'll come back," episode? I got a kick out of this season. Some slow parts but overall it was great.

The last few episodes weren't bad. Just sucks that it wasn't until the 16th episode that I actually wanted to see what happens next week. Prior to this one, they all left me with a big 'meh' feeling. Now we're left high and dry till next year.

[Tisket]

I really enjoyed this season. It had a seemingly slow pace but that just added to the overall dystopian feel of the series and it made the violent bits seem that much more shocking.

Also WB, you're nuts...the Darryl and Beth episodes were great.

[Dendum]

I finally got around to playing the game, very very good if you like old school point and click adventure games.

[Parkbandit]

No way, man. What about the, "I didn't destroy her brain, she'll come back," episode? I got a kick out of this season. Some slow parts but overall it was great.


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Why would she do it? She is trying to prove a point that zombies are people too and to prove it, she kills her sister? Didn't buy it because the motivation was contrived and stupid.

I've been "meh" on this entire half season. I've loved it up until this time.. and last night was really the glimmer of hope that shit will start happening and I won't be bored with the series.

And come on.. YOU KNEW IT HAD TO BE SOME SORT OF TRAP!! Why else would they advertise and come up with catchy jingles to promote it!? Use your heads, n00b!

[Parkbandit]

I finally got around to playing the game, very very good if you like old school point and click adventure games.

Damn, I didn't even know there was a Walking Dead game! I'm going to have to look it up.

[Dendum]

Damn, I didn't even know there was a Walking Dead game! I'm going to have to look it up.

The story may be even more of a mind freak than the show. You definitely do some crazy ass stuff, the mechanics are like an advanced kings quest or fandango but the story is good.

[Taernath]

Damn, I didn't even know there was a Walking Dead game! I'm going to have to look it up.

There are a couple. DO NOT get the shooter one.

[waywardgs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR4lLJu_-wE