Celtar

[Blazing247]

I hate 'em. He whines like a bitch about every change, gives away his items, rerolls his characters, quits, comes back a month later saying he was "dragged back" by something or someone, people give him his items back, he plays for another two months, and repeats, all the while constantly reliving the "glory days" and talking about how 3!iT3 he is cause he's been around so long.

He's about one hundred times more annoying than that huge run on sentence I just typed. I started hating this fuckstain when I learned he was nothing but a drama queen. I can't be the only person that hates 'em.

[peam]

I think he's a pretty good guy, if not a bit of an attention whore.

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Blazing247
I hate 'em. He whines like a bitch about every change, gives away his items, rerolls his characters, quits, comes back a month later saying he was "dragged back" by something or someone, people give him his items back, he plays for another two months, and repeats, all the while constantly reliving the "glory days" and talking about how 3!iT3 he is cause he's been around so long.

He's about one hundred times more annoying than that huge run on sentence I just typed.

I don't think anything could be as annoying as 100 x that run on sentance. Especially Celtar.

[Ravenstorm]

He's still playing? I remember the two or three or four times I helped talk him out of quitting. Then it became obvious what a waste of time that was so I pretty much stopped it. I always liked him except for that 'you can't stop me, I'm quitting so there's no point in trying to talk me out of it but go ahead anyway' thing he's got going.

Course, I didn't quit for good myself until I found a replacement in Inferno. I just hung on for years paying for something I never used. Quitting Inferno was a lot easier, having learned what not to do after GS. Anyway, he's not a bad guy, all told. There's certainly worse.

Raven

[DCSL]

Yeah, he can be irritating when you're not in his in-crowd. If you aren't part of the old days, he practically doesn't want to know who you are. Well, it seems like that, anyway.

But I don't hate him particularly. I loathe all the "the old days were better, and everyone IN the old days was better than you too!" people equally.

[Scott]

I hate Celtar. Every post he has, at one point or another he says "when I played on GEnie" or something along the lines that says "I've been around longer then you, therefore I am better and my opinions mean more."

I really hope he just leaves and goes back and stops with his CONSTANT quitting. Guess what, NOBODY CARES! I'm tired of his constant "I'm leaving, cry for me." Just play the game and stop with the constant crap about how long you've been playing in every post.

[peam]

I think pretty much anyone waving the "I PLAYED ON GENIE" flag can be dismissed. If you've ever seen any logs from that period, a lot of the "legends" of the time were, in fact, twits with uber-powerful items who went around inciting PvP at every corner.

[Ravenstorm]

I don't recall much PvP at all, actually. Though Thalior and Krisenfest did have an ongoing feud and killed each other periodically. Whenever one of them died, the first question wasn't 'Where is he?' but 'Did Thal/Kris do that?'

The items though were indeed inarguably powerful. Dart and Kodos especially had such nice toys.

Raven

[Sean]

I think celtars a pretty good guy. But I'm biased to being friendly with him.

[Galleazzo]

Celtar's okay, even if he's obsessed with sticking his cyber dick in everything that looks or pretends to be female.

[Nakiro]

Never heard of him, but seeing as how I despise drama (especally in a text-based game) I probably wouldn't take much to him.

[Tsa`ah]

Celtar is probably the biggest hypocrite I know of in game. He is one of the biggest reasons I stopped posting and reading the official boards.

In Celtar's mind, he can bitch and whine about anything and everything pertaining to the game. Anyone he likes can do the same. Should anyone else post a complaint, he's likely the first on their case about "This is why the game is crap".

He may be a great guy to people he knows, to everyone else he's just a fuck.

I wish he would just leave for real.

He is rather predictable. Before he leaves he goes on this cycle of "this type of person is dragging down the game", "Changes like this ruin the game for everyone". Then he passes his shit out and quits. He returns a few months later under the guise of a saint and kisses ass.

The cycle has been repeated over and over again. It's old.

[Miss X]

Never heard of him either but I'm guessing I would find him annoying since I can't stand the drama some people make about leaving. They should follow Tayre's example and just go when they wanna go.

[HarmNone]

Oh, my! Is Celtar still starting and stopping regularly? Jim is a good guy, but his love/hate relationship with GemStone is, to put it mildly, hilarious. :D

HarmNone

[Warriorbird]

His quitting is frustrating... his attempts to make powerplays are foolish... but apart from those two he's not that bad a fellow.

There's many many worse attention whores out there.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
He may be a great guy to people he knows, to everyone else he's just a fuck.


That basically sums it up for me. I'm sure he's a swell guy, but unless you're in his crowd, he treats you like crap.

I could do without his cries of coming and going, then again I can't stand that need on general principle, so him doing it every few months can get very annoying.

I don't hate him, since I don't really hate anyone, however I can't stand him for his woes for the [g]olden days, how he plays with his younger characters and slides in there, "Don't you know who I am? I'm Celtar!" and how he just adores name dropping. Once he knows who you are, if you should change your name and finds out from his friends who you are, he'll out you in a heartbeat. He's a pompous twit.

[Artha]

I don't know him, but I think if he were to give ME the stuff, he could be like...ubercool.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I like him. If you just ignore his comings and goings, he's a good guy. I think at some point or another, everyone is like, "Fuck this game, I'm done", and then they come back in one form or another.

He's cool in my book, and regardless of what you may think of him, he's got a big heart and looks out for his friends. You can't fault anyone for that.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
That basically sums it up for me. I'm sure he's a swell guy, but unless you're in his crowd, he treats you like crap.



I'm sick and tired of people claiming that Celtar has 'a crowd'. This is a fallacy and probably started by Celtar himself. He belongs to MY crowd dammit.. MINE.

My crowd. Don't forget that. He's been part of my crowd since Genie. Sure I wasn't around then.. but they knew I would be coming!

Get it straight.

[Parkbandit]

Tayvin's part of my crowd too... let's talk about what a bastard he is.

Discuss.

[Myshel]

I've always enjoyed rp with Celtar, I think he is fun. Yes, he leaves and comes back, but its always good to see him. I laughed when I read the comment about him being such a man whore, his characters are always ladies men, he is a great flirt. As far as him trying to put it in all the women, thats just wrong and you don't know him well if you say that. He is just a great flirt and women love that about him. I can't tell you the times he has been at a table, trying to woo all the women there at the same time. Its funny and not serious at all.
Hell, at my wedding to Ardwen he was trying to get me to run away with him at the altar.

[Edited on 4-7-2004 by Myshel]

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Originally posted by Parkbandit
Tayvin's part of my crowd too... let's talk about what a bastard he is.

Discuss.

You owe me tax on that wire rental.

At my 9:30 am calculation, it's 17.3m.

[Parkbandit]

Wire rental my ass. It's mine and you can't have it.

Tayvin = Falgrin's bitch.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Must...not...set...dwarf...on...fire

[TheEschaton]

There's many many worse attention whores out there.

Celtar's pretty bad, but my all time attention-whore-that-people-actually-like is Truekillr.

I hate that guy. If you're a cleric you know him.....if you've ever tried to participate in a quest, you know him.


And I hate his Lorminstra worshipping ass. But that's probably cause my character has a deep loathing for Lorminstra.

-TheE-

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Must...not...set...dwarf...on...fire

Hehe.. you mean again right?

To bring this topic back on topic.. Jim is one of my favorite players in the game. Sure he whines and bitches at times.. but he does mean well.

I would much rather hang around with players that knew how to roleplay rather than dealing with the idiots who only powerhunt and have zero roleplay ability.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by TheEschaton

There's many many worse attention whores out there.

Celtar's pretty bad, but my all time attention-whore-that-people-actually-like is Truekillr.

I hate that guy. If you're a cleric you know him.....if you've ever tried to participate in a quest, you know him.


And I hate his Lorminstra worshipping ass. But that's probably cause my character has a deep loathing for Lorminstra.

-TheE-

Are we talking about the player or the character?

[TheEschaton]

The character. I have no idea who the player is.

-TheE-

[CrystalTears]

I've yet to get along with the character or the player, so the annoyance is all around. We've had run-ins as both so my gripes with him are my own not strictly by what I hear or read.

[Blazing247]

The thing that pissed me off the most about Celtar is that he loves to out people. I don't want people to know who I am playing. Most importantly, I sold one of my characters and I promised the person who bought it I wouldn't say anything. Lo and behold Jim finds out and outs me on the goddamn public boards. This is why I don't tell him who I play anymore, or anyone for that matter.

Deep down he is definitely a good guy, and someone I used to get along with and hunt with every so often. However, he has some very troubling complexes about this game that reflect poorly on his image. The best thing he could do is quit, forever, as this game is not a source of enjoyment to him the way it is to many of us. I don't care who knows who, who was around "back when", or any of that trite shit. He constantly berated me for skyrocketing up levels while he didn't. No wonder bitch, you keep rerolling like a whiny baby!

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Blazing247
The thing that pissed me off the most about Celtar is that he loves to out people. I don't want people to know who I am playing. Most importantly, I sold one of my characters and I promised the person who bought it I wouldn't say anything. Lo and behold Jim finds out and outs me on the goddamn public boards. This is why I don't tell him who I play anymore, or anyone for that matter.


"Lo and behold, Jim finds out" :lol:

The only person you need to blame for being outted is yourself. You tell your friends and the buyer tells his/her friends and poof.. your 'secret' is out.

If you don't want to be outted.. stop outting yourself... and certainly stop blaming others for your lack of self control.

[Edited on 4-7-2004 by Parkbandit]

[Betheny]

Originally posted by Miss X
Never heard of him either but I'm guessing I would find him annoying since I can't stand the drama some people make about leaving. They should follow Tayre's example and just go when they wanna go.

:( What about me?!

[CrystalTears]

Celtar's player has a habit of outting people. When I changed my login name that shows on the official boards, he found out who I was from a board moderator friend and immediately outted me. I like to stay anonymous there by never stating my characters' names nor specifics about situations I run into in the game. The second he mentioned my characters, I had to write to the head board moderator to remove the post.

I'm sure he's a nice guy, but even nice guys have enemies.

Celtar is cool. Hes a scout too. So suck it.

[Edited on 4/7/2004 by CrystalTears]

[Fengus]

Originally posted by peam
...twits with uber-powerful items who went around inciting PvP at every corner.

You've got to be kidding. Where are these logs you speak of?

I doubt highly that the logs you have are an indication of how the game was day to day.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Celtar's player has a habit of outting people. When I changed my login name that shows on the official boards, he found out who I was from a board moderator friend and immediately outted me.

Are you sure it was a board mod?

I would make a large bet that it was Stealth and not a mod feeding Jim information.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by theotherjohn
Are you sure it was a board mod?

I would make a large bet that it was Stealth and not a mod feeding Jim information.

What would make you think that?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Conspiracy Theory!

[Mistomeer]

He sucks. I don't care if he's played for 10 billion years, his opinion means all of jackshit to me.

[CrystalTears]

Originally posted by theotherjohn

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Celtar's player has a habit of outting people. When I changed my login name that shows on the official boards, he found out who I was from a board moderator friend and immediately outted me.

Are you sure it was a board mod?

I would make a large bet that it was Stealth and not a mod feeding Jim information.

No I'm pretty sure it was a board mod. At one point, Heathyr/Amby used to be board moderator, and also is one of his better friends, and I believe his currect roommate. So my bet is on her at the moment because she wasn't jazzed with me at the time either.

Yeah I just create a whole bunch of animosity around me, eh? :P

[DCSL]

Originally posted by Myshel
are always ladies men, he is a great flirt. As far as him trying to put it in all the women, thats just wrong and you don't know him well if you say that. He is just a great flirt and women love that about him. I can't tell you the times he has been at a table, trying to woo all the women there at the same time. Its funny and not serious at all.
Hell, at my wedding to Ardwen he was trying to get me to run away with him at the altar.

[Edited on 4-7-2004 by Myshel]


I can't even express how unutterably insulting it is, to me, to be around men like that. I didn't know this aspect of him, except by reputation, because he'd never dream of flirting with a nobody like me, but if he ever did....

Maybe I'm in the minority. But aren't there any other girls out there that think it's a little insulting when a guy flirts with anything with boobs? I mean.. I'd be more flattered and swayed by the attention if I didn't KNOW he would flirt with my best friend, my grandmother, my second cousin, my OBVIOUSLY engaged lesbian lover, exactly like that too.

And that whole thing about how hilarious it is that he was trying to kidnap you from your own wedding. You must be more tolerant than I am.. and Ardwen must be too. Even just knowing it was a game to him, I think I'd get tired of that pretty quickly, especially on my wedding day.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by CrystalTears
No I'm pretty sure it was a board mod. At one point, Heathyr/Amby used to be board moderator, and also is one of his better friends, and I believe his currect roommate. So my bet is on her at the moment because she wasn't jazzed with me at the time either.

Yeah I just create a whole bunch of animosity around me, eh? :P

Board Moderators have no access to billing... only tools to moderate the boards with.

Could it be that your writing style didn't change between logon ids and that Celtar simply put two and two together?

Many mysteries have been solved by that method.

[CrystalTears]

Okay let's say that I didn't change anything, that no one told him and he figured it out, was it really necessary to out me and bring up our old issues into other conflicts that have nothing to do with each other just to show me that he knows everything?

Whether he was told or not, the fact that he felt it was his right to post my name publicy is what I have issues with.

[Parkbandit]

Um.. I disliked Warclaidhm alot.. and outted his new names here all the time.

No moderator told me about it.. it was his writing style that gave it away.

I don't remember anyone giving me shit for doing so.

Originally posted by CrystalTears
Okay let's say that I didn't change anything, that no one told him and he figured it out, was it really necessary to out me and bring up our old issues into other conflicts that have nothing to do with each other just to show me that he knows everything?

Whether he was told or not, the fact that he felt it was his right to post my name publicy is what I have issues with.

I actually replied to one of your posts with your character name as well. It wasn't an argument, or done maliciously, I just hadn't noticed that you'd stopped signing your character name and were attempting to remain anonymous.

Anyway, just another point of view....

[Parkbandit]

Am I the only one that doesn't know CrystalTears character?

I feel so left out. :sniffle:

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I never understood why folks feel the need to be anonymous anyway? I find it hard to put credence to any argument, that is argued from anoniminity.

I guess I never gave enough of a shit of others opinions to worry about it.

[Tsa`ah]

That's because it was Warscootrhm. Scooter boy outed himself most of the time.

Unless someone has a CT fetish, I hardly think most people would realize she changed SNs unless she didn't change her posting habits (what topics or issues she posted about).

While a GH does not have access to billing info, they do have access to IPs while on the board. Hell, they may have access to log in info while hosting in-game as well.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I never understood why folks feel the need to be anonymous anyway? I find it hard to put credence to any argument, that is argued from anoniminity.

I guess I never gave enough of a shit of others opinions to worry about it.

Suppa Hobbit Mage = Tayvin.

Ha bitch..

[CrystalTears]

I had specifically changed my handle on the official boards to be anonymous because people for some reason felt the need to comment to me in the game to my characters about things I the PLAYER was posting about. I did not want my characters associated with what I was saying, since they are separate entities from me.

I'm not sure who you are, Tea, or if you mentioned my name, I just don't remember it or didn't see it. However since his purpose was to be malicious, that's when I took notice.

I hardly post on the official boards anymore anyway. I outted myself here because I could care less who knows me or doesn't at this point. A few people from here have interacted with me already and was pretty neat because it allowed me to see a side of them that I wasn't expecting.

[Edited on 4/7/2004 by CrystalTears]

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Parkbandit
Am I the only one that doesn't know CrystalTears character?

I feel so left out. :sniffle:

Yes. You are. You are the oooonly one who does not know. And we will not tell you, either!:P

HarmNone, creating yet another conspiracy

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah

While a GH does not have access to billing info, they do have access to IPs while on the board. Hell, they may have access to log in info while hosting in-game as well.

Both assumptions would be incorrect. From what I have gathered, hosts have no abilities other than a few tools. They have no IP addresses, they have no log in info and they have no billing info.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Parkbandit
Both assumptions would be incorrect. From what I have gathered, hosts have no abilities other than a few tools. They have no IP addresses, they have no log in info and they have no billing info.

Then we have two conflicting assumptions.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I never understood why folks feel the need to be anonymous anyway? I find it hard to put credence to any argument, that is argued from anoniminity.

I guess I never gave enough of a shit of others opinions to worry about it.

Suppa Hobbit Mage = Tayvin.

Ha bitch..

lol, I'd think it's apparent from my IM, Email and Website, Falgrin.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage

Originally posted by Parkbandit

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I never understood why folks feel the need to be anonymous anyway? I find it hard to put credence to any argument, that is argued from anoniminity.

I guess I never gave enough of a shit of others opinions to worry about it.

Suppa Hobbit Mage = Tayvin.

Ha bitch..

lol, I'd think it's apparent from my IM, Email and Website, Falgrin.

FUCKER!!!!!!! I rarely bring things into the game from these boards.. but tonight, my friend, you will be wearing a pretty wire necklace.

I'll learn you to out me!

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah

Originally posted by Parkbandit
Both assumptions would be incorrect. From what I have gathered, hosts have no abilities other than a few tools. They have no IP addresses, they have no log in info and they have no billing info.

Then we have two conflicting assumptions.

You assume mine is an assumption.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Parkbandit
You assume mine is an assumption.


Originally posted by Parkbandit
From what I have gathered

[Parkbandit]

I am right. You are wrong.

Typically... you should just assume I am right :P

[Warriorbird]

I was in a sort've similar situation. I addressed someone with a new account and a new handle by their name... which I knew due to a festival chat room and a fairly enjoyable time at a festival. I got hate mail over it from that person.

He may've learned who you were from something else besides a crooked GM or GH, Crystal Tears.

:doesn't know who CrystalTear's character is either:

:knows Parkbandit BECAUSE of his PC handle however:

:P

[Blazing247]

The only person you need to blame for being outted is yourself. You tell your friends and the buyer tells his/her friends and poof.. your 'secret' is out.

If you don't want to be outted.. stop outting yourself... and certainly stop blaming others for your lack of self control.
---

Not quite. Two people knew of the sale. Myself, and the buyer. I can't prove anything as this was over 2 years ago, but I know he bumped into that character later on, learned it wasn't me, and outted the character on the boards. Keep that fucking shit to yourself man, nobody likes a drama and gossip queen. I know a lot of skeletons about people in this game, but I don't make them public because I have a sense of decency.

By the way, I heard from a friend of a friend that Falgrin's player wets his panties on the third Tuesday of every month. Wussy.

[Galleazzo]

I don't know CT's character but no one knows mine so I'm even. I dropped a few clues but that's about it. I got the same reasons for not sharing as she does -- you deal with me here, not my character in a game, and I've seen lots of people take OOC shit in game, all the time.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Skirmisher

Originally posted by theotherjohn
Are you sure it was a board mod?

I would make a large bet that it was Stealth and not a mod feeding Jim information.

What would make you think that?

Stealth and Jim are friends.

On my computer in America I have the place and time they had lunch and discussed my account.

[Skirmisher]

Well thats good enough for me.

String em up!:rant:

Didn't you sell Tayvin?

Heh, least thats always been the rumor. When ya made the bye-bye thread on the official boards and then like a week or so later, Tayvin was back!

Like during the Troll Quest several people whispered to me, this isn't the real Tayvin. You know when we were looking for the uber dumb entrance that didn't exist till a GM made it.

Anyways...

I never had a problem with Celtar... But, I can see where people will have a problem.

[Edaarin]

Far as I know, Tayvin is still Tayvin, heh. He's like me, too much sentimental value placed in the character to actually sell it...

[Scott]

Edaarin is sold though. The new Edaarin is an asshole.

[FinisWolf]

Well, he is not totally bragging about the old days now. According to this post, he is bragging about the present... sorta ...

https://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=4&topic=23&message =1683

Take a peek ... some of you may gasp at what he has to say.

Finiswolf

[ElanthianSiren]

I like Celtar personally. He and I have fairly conflicting views on SIMU in general, but as a person in the game, he's a sweet guy.

I guess I've never seen the "outting" side because I only seriously play one PC, and I don't have much of an issue with regard to who knows. If someone really wants to find you/attack you/etc, they will find a way to do it, regardless as CT's example points out. I don't know her characters either btw :) .

There's very little about me that I'd actually have a problem with someone 'outting' as long as it's presented factually, but I've found that if you don't make an issue of who you are, generally people just don't give a damn in GS.

-Melissa

[Miss X]

Originally posted by Galleazzo
I don't know CT's character but no one knows mine so I'm even. I dropped a few clues but that's about it. I got the same reasons for not sharing as she does -- you deal with me here, not my character in a game, and I've seen lots of people take OOC shit in game, all the time.


<-------- Worked out who you were ages ago. ;)

[CrystalTears]

Dudes, my characters are nobodies. <chuckles> He just knew who one of them was because we had an in game conflict and he turned it personal, that's all. I've mentioned my characters lots of times here and obviously it doesn't phase anyone since most people don't remember later.

Anyway, I didn't mean to froth this topic very much. This is just the only person really who gets under my skin for my own reasons, and not many do that. Hopefully this time around he'll have a more positive outlook on the game and the people who play in it.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Originally posted by The Lancer
Didn't you sell Tayvin?

Heh, least thats always been the rumor. When ya made the bye-bye thread on the official boards and then like a week or so later, Tayvin was back!

Like during the Troll Quest several people whispered to me, this isn't the real Tayvin. You know when we were looking for the uber dumb entrance that didn't exist till a GM made it.

Anyways...

I never had a problem with Celtar... But, I can see where people will have a problem.

Hey now, I left for a good 16 days! Never been sold, no. Not yet anyway! lol

[Blazing247]

I'll give you a cool grand for Tayvin. I'd pay more, but well...nobody likes hobbits.