Breasts and You: A poll.

[Delias]

I'm gathering data on breast augmentation. My wife vacillates on the subject and can't decide if she wants them (due to the post-child deflation) or doesn't want them. So far as I can tell her prime reason not to want them is that they apparently need to be replaced every so often. I thought I'd conduct this poll and see what everyone thinks of fake tits.

Any input from anyone with any experience on the subject would be nice, and of course ladies you are encouraged to show us your boobs... we need a nice selection of real and fake so we can make a visual argument as well as a written one.

[Jayvn]

You should love your wifes tiny boobs

I know I do

[iJin]

Selfish bastard. Be appreciative that you have any to look at when you get home. Tsk tsk.

[Delias]

For the record, she brought it up.

[Barundar]

A chronic case of boulder-tit would put "it" down for me, real fast.

[Jorddyn]

My wife vacillates on the subject and can't decide if she wants them (due to the post-child deflation) or doesn't want them. So far as I can tell her prime reason not to want them is that they apparently need to be replaced every so often. I thought I'd conduct this poll and see what everyone thinks of fake tits.

I've seen the struggles my mom went through with her implants after breast cancer, and would never get them myself. Has she considered just a lift instead of implants? They may be smaller, but they will be hers, not turn into rocks, she won't have foreign material in her body, and she won't have to go through surgery every 10 years to have them replaced.

PS - I don't really care if anyone gets them or not, but the DD canteloupes stuck to the chests of 90 lb women look silly.

[Sean]

If you can touch them, they're real.

[Swami71]

I read the poll wrong. I'm not a fan of fake tits. I'm all for a lift though if they are extreme sagging. Little sags okay and all natural though.

[Jayvn]

why are there no pictures to aid in the poll?

[Delias]

why are there no pictures to aid in the poll?

Currently at work, but others may feel free to add examples.

[Methais]

If you can touch them, they're real.

http://i.pbase.com/o6/42/577342/1/85514058.JM8in0AI.endTHREAD.jpg

[Jayvn]

Currently at work, but others may feel free to add examples.

of your wifes boobs?

[Delias]

of your wifes boobs?

If they have said examples, sure. I feel any boobs at all will help with a comparison/contrast.

[Rimalon]

I voted for the chip in, but I would do so only if they were 100% posted on the PC, and frequently, in comedic situations.

The PC having ownership of a pair of fake boobs? Yes plz.

[Methais]

If they have said examples, sure. I feel any boobs at all will help with a comparison/contrast.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/DoyleHargraves/butthead.jpg

[Lumi]

Where's the "meh" option?

I would also go with the lift option. There's a lot of upkeep and maintenance on fake tits. Not to mention the potential health risks.

Why did this topic come up? Does she think she'll feel better about something (her self, her appearance, her confidence, etc.) if she goes through with it?

Ultimately, that's what should dictate the decision: will it make her happier than not doing it?

[Delias]

Why did this topic come up? Does she think she'll feel better about something (her self, her appearance, her confidence, etc.) if she goes through with it?

Ultimately, that's what should dictate the decision: will it make her happier than not doing it?

Honestly she has mentioned it periodically over the last 10 years. I was quite satisfied with her breasts all during that time and made sure she knew it. Our son will be turning two in september, and since he was born I've only even seen her breasts maybe a dozen times without a bra on... so I assume she's feeling self-conscious about them. My stance in most things that my wife wants to do is encourage her to do what she wants to do and I'll find a way to make it happen. I'd be lying if I said a nice C-cup wouldn't be welcome, but I can just as easily live without it. Over the years we've been together, I've discovered acceptance is much, much easier than actually understanding, when it comes to women.

[Drisco]

I enjoy the beauty of Women. Still i'm more of an ass man..

heh, I'm priceless.

[Cephalopod]

Please post a picture of your wife's current boobs or lack thereof. The amazing Photoshop experts on this board can give you a view of what they would look like enhanced in various ways.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I'd tell her to look into a lift if the every decade upkeep is daunting to her.

As far as implants go, she can go get a consultation with a plastic surgeon without having to actually agree to and schedule surgery. They'd show her the implant they'd use, talk about what size, and discuss options re: over the muscle or under the muscle, and then risks and upkeep costs. Stuff for her to mull over at least while trying to decide whether she wants to or not.

[AnticorRifling]

The polls needs a "I don't care as long as I get to play with them" option.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

If she gets a boob job her confidence will return and she'll dump you. At least, that's what I've always heard on the radio about it!

Or maybe that was only about girlfriends. I don't recall, but I do know the local radio station talks a lot about women getting boob jobs and dumping their boyfriends (who bought them usually) shortly after.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Oh, and if I was you, I'd just support her decision. It's her body, she has to live with the bolt ons if she gets em. You just get to play with them either way, if you are lucky :) You don't sound very lucky though, 12 times in 2 years...

[Cephalopod]

Our son will be turning two in september, and since he was born I've only even seen her breasts maybe a dozen times without a bra on... so I assume she's feeling self-conscious about them.

Holy shit, I missed this before. Are you serious?

[AnticorRifling]

I'm hoping this means she keeps the bra on during sex and not just you've only had sex a dozen times in 2 YEARS!!!

[Kuyuk]

:-(

[Sylvan Dreams]

I'm gathering data on breast augmentation. My wife vacillates on the subject and can't decide if she wants them (due to the post-child deflation) or doesn't want them. So far as I can tell her prime reason not to want them is that they apparently need to be replaced every so often. I thought I'd conduct this poll and see what everyone thinks of fake tits.

Any input from anyone with any experience on the subject would be nice, and of course ladies you are encouraged to show us your boobs... we need a nice selection of real and fake so we can make a visual argument as well as a written one.

I know several people that have gotten boob jobs and each person had a different experience. The worse experiences were with the people that had gone to cheaper surgeons, though. I think they have to be replaced like every ten years or so, so its not like shed be going back in every two years for an upgrade. The most important things that I have learned from my friends was to go to a surgeon you feel comfortable around and who has a lot of surgery experience, it's better to pay a little more than a little less, and to open your damned mouth and let your doctor know if your pain meds aren't cutting it.

[AnticorRifling]

I would also tell your wife that frequent mouth massage post surgery is the best way to improve the life of the implants. That or maybe a rigorous sausage striping from time to time just to keep them in check.

[Gan]

Honestly she has mentioned it periodically over the last 10 years. I was quite satisfied with her breasts all during that time and made sure she knew it. Our son will be turning two in september, and since he was born I've only even seen her breasts maybe a dozen times without a bra on... so I assume she's feeling self-conscious about them. My stance in most things that my wife wants to do is encourage her to do what she wants to do and I'll find a way to make it happen. I'd be lying if I said a nice C-cup wouldn't be welcome, but I can just as easily live without it. Over the years we've been together, I've discovered acceptance is much, much easier than actually understanding, when it comes to women.

Just tell her that new bolt-ons will require frequent updating using her USB port and your pen drive.

[AnticorRifling]

Wouldn't it be a rack mount? ZOMG NERD JOKES!

[Gan]

Using Firewire also came to mind...

[Allereli]

Our son will be turning two in september, and since he was born I've only even seen her breasts maybe a dozen times without a bra on... so I assume she's feeling self-conscious about them.

That's really sad. Maybe she needs some therapy first, or just some time naked with you telling her she looks beautiful.

She definitely has a self-image problem that might not stop with boobs if she decides to take the surgery plunge.

[AnticorRifling]

That's really sad. Maybe she needs some therapy first, or just some time naked with you telling her she looks beautiful.

She definitely has a self-image problem that might not stop with boobs if she decides to take the surgery plunge.

Let's take this one step further.

Post the nudes and we'll only say positive things (I'll delete any bad comments and request Kranar ban them). Then once we've got a few pages of posts you bring her to the forums.

WHAT CAN GO WRONG?!

[Kuyuk]

She'll run away with someone from the forums.

[Allereli]

She'll run away with someone from the forums.

Methais is gassing up the hot dog truck right now

[AnticorRifling]

She'll run away with someone from the forums.

Peter Griffin voice: "Oh God, Lionel, you have been hurt. You have been hurt by somebody, that much is clear. Who hurt you? Who hurt you? Who hurt you, who hurt you".

[Krienna]

I read the poll wrong. I'm not a fan of fake tits. I'm all for a lift though if they are extreme sagging. Little sags okay and all natural though.

I couldn't agree more. I know I'd never consider breast augmentation. For me, natural breasts are absolutely beautiful regardless if they've gone through some deflation and whatnot. I know it comes down to personal preference, but breasts that have gone under the knife just look unnatural for me. I love the natural bounce and feeling of them without something added.

OP, it can be a self-esteem booster though. I have a friend that had similar body image issues after giving birth to her son. She went to a therapist for awhile before ultimately deciding to get it done at her therapist's recommendation. It was an amazing transformation for her. She gained her self-esteem back almost immediately and has never regretted her decision, even with the upkeep involved. I never thought she looked bad after childbirth. She experienced a small amount of sagging as a result of deflation, but it wasn't bad at all and perfectly natural. However, it's up to her to decide what is best for her life. It definitely did brighten up her day.

[AnticorRifling]

Please tell me you guys have looked to see who voted for what. I'm freakin crying I'm laughing so hard.

[Krendeli]

My wife just had a lift and implants about 3 months ago. They've been absolutely wonderful and it's hard to tell that they're fake. They don't have a hard feel to them and the scarring is almost completely gone.

It's been the best $11,000 I've ever spent.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Pics or it didn't happen.

[Delias]

I'm hoping this means she keeps the bra on during sex and not just you've only had sex a dozen times in 2 YEARS!!!

Ah, yeah, Bra on during sex. Every time I turn her over I have to resist the urge to say "Remember junior high?!" and snap her bra. Ok, I made that part up... As far as supporting my wife in whatever decision she makes, that's pretty much a given.

With the looking fake business, I think it really has to do with the quality of the doctor... I've seen some amazing work. Shrug. I guess it will all play out one way or the other... I pledge that I shall support all boobs, large or small (with cupped hands).

[Krienna]

Ah, yeah, Bra on during sex. Every time I turn her over I have to resist the urge to say "Remember junior high?!" and snap her bra. Ok, I made that part up... As far as supporting my wife in whatever decision she makes, that's pretty much a given.

With the looking fake business, I think it really has to do with the quality of the doctor... I've seen some amazing work. Shrug. I guess it will all play out one way or the other... I pledge that I shall support all boobs, large or small (with cupped hands).

Always a great attitude! They all need loving regardless of the size or shape. If she does decide to get it done and it boosts her confidence, then that's a great thing! Plus, confidence is definitely sexy inside or outside the bedroom. Good luck figuring this all out.

[Lady Lightning]

I couldn't agree more. I know I'd never consider breast augmentation. For me, natural breasts are absolutely beautiful regardless if they've gone through some deflation and whatnot. I know it comes down to personal preference, but breasts that have gone under the knife just look unnatural for me. I love the natural bounce and feeling of them without something added..

Although I don't disagree with this, I want to clarify that this (Krienna) is not me. Thanks to Drew for the heads up.

Krianna, on the officials and a million other places.

[Krienna]

Although I don't disagree with this, I want to clarify that this (Krienna) is not me. Thanks to Drew for the heads up.

Krianna, on the officials and a million other places.

Wow, I definitely didn't realize someone else had a name that was even remotely close to this one. I just returned to the lands from a long hiatus, and my apologies for literally being one letter off. Krienna is a name that I've used since my noob days in MMOs ironically.

[Latrinsorm]

Seconding the go to therapy and talk to a doctor comments.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

re: boobs looking fake.. most of the time when you can tell boobs are fake, the surgeon didn't do a good job. Skill of the surgeon, over or under the muscle, and size of implants all contribute to how realistic they look.

I think the therapy suggestion is fair.

I say the best thing you can do though is be supportive and understanding no matter what she chooses to do with her body (if anything) which it seems you are.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I believe I mentioned it before, but I had a GF who I was intimate with (giggity) before and after her boob job. Other than the initial soreness/stiffness immediately following surgery, you seriously could not tell the difference. I explored them thoroughly at most a week after surgery (giggity) and other than being more perky than your normal 35 year old tit, it was hard to tell. Her's were under the muscle and saline, not silicone, so maybe that's the diff... no idea though. I personally told her she was fine as is (while secretly hoping she'd come back with like tripple D's), and she was, she was a big B, maybe a small C before and they were just fine.

After, she was as insecure as ever though, even though she was a knockout.

[TheEschaton]

OP, it can be a self-esteem booster though. I have a friend that had similar body image issues after giving birth to her son. She went to a therapist for awhile before ultimately deciding to get it done at her therapist's recommendation. It was an amazing transformation for her. She gained her self-esteem back almost immediately and has never regretted her decision, even with the upkeep involved. I never thought she looked bad after childbirth. She experienced a small amount of sagging as a result of deflation, but it wasn't bad at all and perfectly natural. However, it's up to her to decide what is best for her life. It definitely did brighten up her day.

I'm gonna go with Daniel Tosh's assessment of the situation:

"I am all for women who decide to get plastic surgery. Plastic surgery allows you the rare opportunity to make your outer appearance resemble your inner appearance. Fake. That's a very positive joke for women, unless of course you have fake boobs let's be honest your not bright enough to get that joke. How's that feel whores!? Keep telling yourself you did so your shirts would fit better. You did it because your a whore, you forgot because your stupid."

[Keller]

I'm gonna go with Daniel Tosh's assessment of the situation:

"I am all for women who decide to get plastic surgery. Plastic surgery allows you the rare opportunity to make your outer appearance resemble your inner appearance. Fake. That's a very positive joke for women, unless of course you have fake boobs let's be honest your not bright enough to get that joke. How's that feel whores!? Keep telling yourself you did so your shirts would fit better. You did it because your a whore, you forgot because your stupid."

Someone call the grammar police!

[Krienna]

I'm gonna go with Daniel Tosh's assessment of the situation:

"I am all for women who decide to get plastic surgery. Plastic surgery allows you the rare opportunity to make your outer appearance resemble your inner appearance. Fake. That's a very positive joke for women, unless of course you have fake boobs let's be honest your not bright enough to get that joke. How's that feel whores!? Keep telling yourself you did so your shirts would fit better. You did it because your a whore, you forgot because your stupid."

I may not like plastic surgery on breasts simply because I prefer completely natural ones, but I firmly believe it's way out of line to think that one is fake simply because they choose to alter their body in a way that makes them feel better about themselves. Plastic surgery has advanced to the point where it is easily accessible by people of various income brackets, and it's extremely efficient as well. If something makes someone uncomfortable, they now have a way of correcting that.

I've had plastic surgery done in the past, but it wasn't on my breasts. Mine was on my ears. Since childhood, my ears didn't go back and looked enlarged simply because I had an excess amount of cartilage behind them. Jokes, even if they were harmless, knocked my self-esteem to nothingness before I finally mustered up the courage to see a surgeon with my parents when I was 17. It's amazing how something so simple can change your life. I regained my confidence and was actually pleased to look myself in the mirror.

Some women may want to simply get breast augmentation to "fill their shirts", but others do have genuine concerns and no psychologist is going to argue that sometimes fixing the focus of negative energy is for the best. Mine sure as heck didn't try to talk me out of it. If breast augmentation or whatever improves self-confidence, I really don't see a problem with it. It's not always as easy as merely "accepting yourself for who you are". The important part is to think long and hard about any decisions regarding your body and make sure you are doing it for the right reasons.


Someone call the grammar police!

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[nub]

I like them both, but like natural better. Sometimes people look better with fakies, which I appreciate!

[Bobmuhthol]

I would not have sex with your wife if she had implants, for what it's worth.

[TheEschaton]

If breast augmentation or whatever improves self-confidence, I really don't see a problem with it. It's not always as easy as merely "accepting yourself for who you are".

If breast augmentation or whatever improves self-confidence, then the statement applies - your (general) concern is with fake things.

[Krienna]

If breast augmentation or whatever improves self-confidence, then the statement applies - your (general) concern is with fake things.

It ultimately depends on how you view plastic surgery. Are you a religious man? Do you believe that your body is how god or whoever the fuck you believe in intended it to be?

I view plastic surgery as a procedure to alter the appearance of a particular body part. If it improves how the patient views themselves, then that's a wonderful thing. There's nothing fake about it. Physical appearance is far from fake, especially when it comes to something one genuinely dislikes about themselves. With today's technology, that can be easily corrected.

You're entitled to your beliefs, but I'll never regret the decision I made in regards to my ears. I also don't look at it as being fake either. There was something I didn't like about myself and I corrected it. It's literally that simple.

Now, if you're one to simply judge others by their physical appearance and choices related to it, especially when it's none of your business, then I feel sorry for you. Some people may choose to get surgery for others, but most men and women who get plastic surgery do it for themselves. I didn't like the jokes growing up about my ears, but ultimately I choose to go under the knife for myself.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

TheE finds 12 year olds sexually attractive, I'd take his opinions on "women's" bodies with a grain of salt.

[Methais]

I would not have sex with your wife if she had implants, for what it's worth.

You also said that Olivia Munn isn't hot enough for you if I remember correctly, so your input on women isn't really valid.

Olivia Munn:
http://theaterofmine.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/olivia-munn-feet.jpg

[Krienna]

TheE finds 12 year olds sexually attractive, I'd take his opinions on "women's" bodies with a grain of salt.

Ouch. Still, it's fun to debate a viewpoint such as his with literally nothing to reinforce it beyond "fake women are whores". :p

[Krienna]

You also said that Olivia Munn isn't hot enough for you if I remember correctly, so your opinion on women isn't really valid.

Olivia Munn has one beautiful smile. I love that it's more cute than sultry, which is hard to come by these days.

[SHAFT]

If you're in a relationship and you feel on another woman's fake boobs, its not actually cheating because the boobs are fake

[4a6c1]

TheE finds 12 year olds sexually attractive, I'd take his opinions on "women's" bodies with a grain of salt.

AHAHAHAHAHA!


Delias. Thread fucking fail. I did not see the option "Will want to get them eventually. WHO DOESNT?!"

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Ouch. Still, it's fun to debate a viewpoint such as his with literally nothing to reinforce it beyond "fake women are whores". :p

As a fellow person who's had plastic surgery (my parents admittedly chose it for me but I'm grateful), I just think you make the decision and do it and fuck anyone who wants to get on some soapbox about how it's wrong. I guess that's my main point. Anyone who goes under or doesn't go under the knife should do so for themself, not to make anyone else happy. Who cares what some random jackass thinks? Make that decision and don't apologize for it, and don't look back.

[TheEschaton]

Here's the thing: I believe the value of a person lies not one bit in their physical appearance. It's not a religious belief, or a political belief. Furthermore, I think it's a fairly uncontroversial belief that a person's value is based on something other than appearance, at least in this modern time.

To believe "surgery for self-esteem is valid", you have to believe that at least some value lies in physical appearance. IF that's true, we have a disagreement of where value lies in the human being. If you don't believe that a person's value lies in physical appearance, then you have a disconnect between what you believe, and what you practice.

[Methais]

Here's the thing: I believe the value of a person lies not one bit in their physical appearance. It's not a religious belief, or a political belief. Furthermore, I think it's a fairly uncontroversial belief that a person's value is based on something other than appearance, at least in this modern time.

To believe "surgery for self-esteem is valid", you have to believe that at least some value lies in physical appearance. IF that's true, we have a disagreement of where value lies in the human being. If you don't believe that a person's value lies in physical appearance, then you have a disconnect between what you believe, and what you practice.

Or you could just let people do what they want and not judge them for it as long as it's not hurting anybody else.

Just saying.

[Bobmuhthol]

I agree with TheE.

[EasternBrand]

To believe "surgery for self-esteem is valid", you have to believe that at least some value lies in physical appearance.

Not only is there value in an attractive physical appearance, but you can actually quantify it.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/Careers/07/08/looks/

[Latrinsorm]

Some women may want to simply get breast augmentation to "fill their shirts", but others do have genuine concerns and no psychologist is going to argue that sometimes fixing the focus of negative energy is for the best. Mine sure as heck didn't try to talk me out of it. If breast augmentation or whatever improves self-confidence, I really don't see a problem with it. It's not always as easy as merely "accepting yourself for who you are". The important part is to think long and hard about any decisions regarding your body and make sure you are doing it for the right reasons.This can lead to an extremely dangerous place, as Heidi Montag has thoughtfully demonstrated for all of us. Sometimes it is better to leave a person feeling crappy than to offer them a scalpel, though one hopes they are at the same time directed to a non-invasive means of no longer feeling crappy.

[4a6c1]

I'm all for anything that promotes vanity and selfishness in women.

Yay fake boobies!

Srsly. There needs to be MORE public interest in this. I would like to see scientists perfecting these implants until they are up to standard with the rest of modern medicine. I think a discussion of this nature is pointless. RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH! Who cares what reasons are behind such a silly medical luxury. Our culture is so far beyond that. Or...I'd like to think so. We just need to improve on the technology. I feel like that is the ONLY thing worth discussing. Moral issues?! Bleh.

[SHAFT]

I have a poll for ya....

A?
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/fake-tits.jpg

Or B?
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/43365748_282fd3f827.jpg

[Celephais]

Here's the thing: I believe the value of a person lies not one bit in their physical appearance.

Me either ... but my penis disagrees with me.

More seriously, I've found that I find women who I like on a personal level, that I connect with, actually appear much more physically attractive than at first and it changes my definition of physically attractive to include certain features that might not have been on the top of my list.

[Jorddyn]

I have a poll for ya....

A?
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/fake-tits.jpg

Or B?
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/43365748_282fd3f827.jpg

A looks like they'd poke your eyes out, or at the very least give you a hell of a black eye if you tried to motorboat. B look much softer, and don't look tacked on to the body.

Are they both fake? Dunno. If so, OP's wife should definitely go to B's surgeon instead.

[EasternBrand]

Me either ... but my penis disagrees with me.

More seriously, I've found that I settle very easily.

Caught your mistake there.

[Lumi]

To believe "surgery for self-esteem is valid", you have to believe that at least some value lies in physical appearance. IF that's true, we have a disagreement of where value lies in the human being. If you don't believe that a person's value lies in physical appearance, then you have a disconnect between what you believe, and what you practice.

The problem is that this is all a matter of perception, and one's self-perception is often the least forgiving kind.

The value lies not in the body itself, but in how comfortable a person feels about his or her body. There are plenty of instances of people being perfectly happy accepting a particular "imperfection" in someone else, but not in him- or herself. In such a situation, one can look to surgical solutions to alter a self-perceived imperfection without necessarily betraying a physically-based criterion for value judgments in others.

tldr; version: Just because you want to go under the knife to "fix" your own problems doesn't mean you judge other people on "shallow", physical grounds. We're our own harshest critics.

[Celephais]

Uh.. guys, TheE is just baiting you. He's saying that if you have self confidence issues because of your appearance, you're shallow. The fact that TheE is perfectly fine looking like he does, tells us that he's better than us.

[TheEschaton]

But I am better than you. ;)

See? Self-confidence, and believe me, I'm not winning beauty contests.

[Celephais]

But I am better than you. ;)

See? Self-confidence, and believe me, I'm not winning beauty contests.

But the fact that I'm not saying I'm better than you does make me bett...

And I'm only not winning beauty contests because I'm not entering them. And I'm not entering them because I don't need that type of reassurance.

[TheEschaton]

Pride isn't a flaw, when it's fact!

[AnticorRifling]

But beauty contests are easy when everyone is wearing a burka.

[RichardCranium]

I have a poll for ya....

A?
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/fake-tits.jpg

Or B?
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/43365748_282fd3f827.jpg

B, but only because the chick in A has much too small a frame for those tits. They're both a nice set.

[Sean of the Thread]

B by a mile.

I like all boobs except rojo's man boob pictures. His milkshake did not bring all the boys to his yard.

[Delias]

Here's the thing: I believe the value of a person lies not one bit in their physical appearance

So if you believe that physical appearance neither adds nor subtracts value, why do you have an opinion on fake tits either way?

According to the information provided, I have determined that you dislike boobs.

Anyway, as it turns out, she wants to wait until we have another kid before making any kind of decision that could possibly affect her breast-feeding... and it would be sort of pointless to buy new tits just to ruin them again. She did seem quite impressed with Rucca's argument, which I promised I wouldn't show any of you.

I will now let this thread resume its natural course, where we can continue to discuss boobs in all their glory, or you know, just let it die. Whatever. :)

[Celephais]

She did seem quite impressed with Rucca's argument, which I promised I wouldn't show any of you.

If you aren't going to show them to us, why even bring it up?

.. yes I said them.

[Kuyuk]

So if you believe that physical appearance neither adds nor subtracts value, why do you have an opinion on fake tits either way?

According to the information provided, I have determined that you dislike boobs.

Anyway, as it turns out, she wants to wait until we have another kid before making any kind of decision that could possibly affect her breast-feeding... and it would be sort of pointless to buy new tits just to ruin them again. She did seem quite impressed with Rucca's argument, which I promised I wouldn't show any of you.

I will now let this thread resume its natural course, where we can continue to discuss boobs in all their glory, or you know, just let it die. Whatever. :)


Well, send her over already to get inseminated...

[Delias]

If you aren't going to show them to us, why even bring it up?

.. yes I said them.

My natural cruel streak, I suppose.

[TheEschaton]

So if you believe that physical appearance neither adds nor subtracts value, why do you have an opinion on fake tits either way?

According to the information provided, I have determined that you dislike boobs.


I have no opinion on fake tits as an object per se, I have an opinion on the reason a person would want to get fake tits. I think fake tits look good on my face, for example, but I don't think I'd like the person who felt they needed to have them to improve their self-esteem.

[CrystalTears]

If the implant cost, effort and recovery is worth it, I say do it. I don't see the big deal with any cosmetic surgery if you have the means and the drive. It's an elaborate makeover. BFD.

People dress better, workout, and wear makeup to look and feel prettier. Do you look down at them because you deem them as having self-esteem issues as well? Frankly it's the same thing, just more expensive.

[TheEschaton]

Working out is often a health issue. But yes, I do feel the same about people who dress better and put on makeup if it somehow gives them a greater sense of self-worth. If they wear expensive clothes or makeup because there's some societal projection on what they're supposed to look like in their job or position, or whatever, fine, that speaks more to society's flaw than that particular individual. It's when the individual starts to believe society's stupid ass projections are relevant to their worth as individuals that I have to question their idiocy. Plus, the thing with cosmetic surgery is that it's permanent.

"You wonder why other countries hate us, when we have shows like The Swan, and Extreme Makeover? 'Forget about developing a personality, I'll just get my face cut up! Am I happy? Am I....that's the expression I ordered, happy!'"

[Gan]

I definately agree with tax deductions for fake tits as a business expense.

Those community college girls need all the breaks they can get.

;)

[Gan]

"You wonder why other countries hate us, when we have shows like The Swan, and Extreme Makeover? 'Forget about developing a personality, I'll just get my face cut up! Am I happy? Am I....that's the expression I ordered, happy!'"

Especially when they're still watching reruns of Bay Watch and thinking its the phatest shit on the planet.

David Hasselhoff has a huge international following.

Enough said!

[TheEschaton]

Did YOU change your location to "a big bag of mashed up jackass"? Cause that's pretty funny.

[Gan]

Yes - quite a while ago. :)

I believe credit for the phrase goes to Chris Matthews.

[Cephalopod]

Yes - quite a while ago. :)

I believe credit for the phrase goes to Chris Matthews.

I think it was actually Keith Olbermann, referring to Rush. I could be wrong, though.

He also called Michelle Malkin a "big mashed up bag of meat with lipstick".

[Gan]

I think it was actually Keith Olbermann, referring to Rush. I could be wrong, though.

He also called Michelle Malkin a "big mashed up bag of meat with lipstick".

Hmmm, now I have to go back and find the collage of clips from MSNBC. I believe this was the one used by Jon Stewart on the daily show where he ragged all over MSNBC for some reason or another.

[4a6c1]

Saw this and decided to post in the fake boob thread instead of Respond to Rep.


Seems like I upset some of the ladies who believe that changing your outside is (or should be) tied to your self-esteem. ;)

Did not neg rep you (actually i think i sent you green rep with moobs recently) but this seems like a pretty stupid and broad assertion to make.

As a ridonkulously arrogant and vain woman I believe I can successfully argue that when I trim the hairy macro-organisms that are my eyebrows, or paint my toenails to match my car, or color my hair something crazy unnatural, or wax the abyssal caverns down below, or spend 45 minutes applying fake eyelashes I am ALSO changing my outside.

Are these tied to self-esteem or are they socially accepted female mating rituals? Both? Maybe we dont know.

My point is getting surgery to enhance your tits is a little more permanent but really not a big deal. And people that make a big deal about it would probably also argue that putting on makeup, trimming your eyebrows, waxing your labia are also somehow tied to self-esteem. If that is so....this argument is not about fake boobs. It's about social mechanics and moral taboos (hurting oneself for beauty.)

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Saw this and decided to post in the fake boob thread instead of Respond to Rep.



Did not neg rep you (actually i think i sent you green rep with moobs recently) but this seems like a pretty stupid and broad assertion to make.

As a ridonkulously arrogant and vain woman I believe I can successfully argue that when I trim the hairy macro-organisms that are my eyebrows, or paint my toenails to match my car, or color my hair something crazy unnatural, or wax the abyssal caverns down below, or spend 45 minutes applying fake eyelashes I am ALSO changing my outside.

Are these tied to self-esteem or are they socially accepted female mating rituals? Both? Maybe we dont know.

My point is getting surgery to enhance your tits is a little more permanent but really not a big deal. And people that make a big deal about it would probably also argue that putting on makeup, trimming your eyebrows, waxing your labia are also somehow tied to self-esteem. If that is so....this argument is not about fake boobs. It's about social mechanics and moral taboos (hurting oneself for beauty.)

Well said.

Now let's go get manicures and then scissor.

[Delias]

And once you've waxed, I'll stop by and double check their work.

[Gan]

I have no opinion on fake tits as an object per se, I have an opinion on the reason a person would want to get fake tits. I think fake tits look good on my face, for example, but I don't think I'd like the person who felt they needed to have them to improve their self-esteem.

Upon later reflection... The tits as a whole are not fake. The surrounding skin is not fake. The nipple (numnumnum) is not fake. The only thing fake persay is some additional mass inserted inside the breast.

Calling implanted breasts fake would be like calling a condom wrapped schlong fake.

Think of it as just being accessorized.

Now lets discuss Vajazzleing next!

[4a6c1]

Now lets discuss Vajazzleing next!

LMAO

Trademark that shit.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Vajazzling looks like sparkly herpes :(

[Delias]

Glitter and herpes share an innate relationship anyway.

[Divinity]

I would say get a lift if it's the post-deflation that's the reason for this poll being created at all. I'm considering getting it done after I have another child. I've heard about and seen waaaay too many ugly fake bitties. Blech.

[AnticorRifling]

.... or wax the abyssal caverns down below ...

Was anything else even said in this thread because all I'm getting is a dial tone now.

[Cephalopod]

http://www.straightrazorplace.com/forums/attachments/razors/28705d1249474228-my-new-straight-razor-stand-44789.-thread-completely-useless-without-images-1-.jpg

[Warriorbird]

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/6749/busen-memo

Breasts and YOU ALLLLLLL

[Methais]

Here's the thing: I believe the value of a person lies not one bit in their physical appearance. It's not a religious belief, or a political belief. Furthermore, I think it's a fairly uncontroversial belief that a person's value is based on something other than appearance, at least in this modern time.

To believe "surgery for self-esteem is valid", you have to believe that at least some value lies in physical appearance. IF that's true, we have a disagreement of where value lies in the human being. If you don't believe that a person's value lies in physical appearance, then you have a disconnect between what you believe, and what you practice.

What's your opinion on women shaving their legs and all that?

[Celephais]

What's your opinion on women shaving their legs and all that?

Inconsequential. He's want's men to shave their legs.