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LMingrone
06-03-2010, 12:11 AM
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=8616789

Damn.

Allereli
06-03-2010, 12:15 AM
it's absurd every stadium has a jumbotron that plays replays when it doesn't count, but not when it does.

thefarmer
06-03-2010, 12:15 AM
Can MLB review it afterwards, call it an incorrect ruling and give the pitcher his perfect game?

LMingrone
06-03-2010, 12:16 AM
it's absurd every stadium has a jumbotron that plays replays when it doesn't count, but not when it does.


Stupid Yankee Stadium rarely plays replays...still love the place though.

Celephais
06-03-2010, 12:19 AM
Can MLB review it afterwards, call it an incorrect ruling and give the pitcher his perfect game?

Nope. That Ump is just going to have to kill himself to get out of this one.

Allereli
06-03-2010, 12:19 AM
Stupid Yankee Stadium rarely plays replays...still love the place though.

but they play the subway race. GO #6!

Drew
06-03-2010, 12:20 AM
I feel really bad for the pitcher, talk about a chance that will never come again.

Asrial
06-03-2010, 12:44 AM
Bud Selig could over turn it (which he should).

They're also saying that it could be scored as an error and preserve the no hitter at least.

However...

3 perfect games so far.. 22 (or is it 21 with this one?) in MLB history.. pitchers are starting to become dominant again!

Xanator
06-03-2010, 12:52 AM
This is just terrible, man. I have to feel like you call the runner out on that play even if he looks more safe than out, considering the context. The guy had thrown less than 90 pitches. Had to look twice and see if that was Joe West umpiring first.

I don't think there's anything that allows MLB to overturn that play in any way. I know it's possible to protest and get a particular play scored differently (i.e. a play ruled a hit at the time changed to an error after a protest, which could theoretically turn a one-hitter into a no-no). Just a horrible, horrible call.

xdigitalx
06-03-2010, 12:58 AM
I really couldn't believe it was that evident till I watched it. Everyone in the stadium knew what was on the line, you would think they would have gotten that call right. That umpire will hear about for it years. I feel bad for the pitcher.

Sagoth

Tisket
06-03-2010, 01:11 AM
That is just sad.

EasternBrand
06-03-2010, 08:59 AM
It's a good thing Ernie Harwell is already dead, because this would have killed him. Also, Griffey's retirement makes me feel really old all of a sudden.

Parkbandit
06-03-2010, 11:22 AM
I feel bad for the umpire. I'm glad he already took responsibility for the bad call and called the pitcher to apologize for it.

Alfster
06-03-2010, 11:25 AM
Shit happens. All I care is that they stay the fuck away from instant reply on every close call. That would be the gay.

Wonder how many death threats that ump'll get.

Atlanteax
06-03-2010, 11:30 AM
Geez, and that was not even close.

Since it was the 9th and 2 outs, maybe they can officially change the record books?

Alfster
06-03-2010, 11:36 AM
That would be stupid. They played the rest of the game. He gave up a hit. It's over. Don't change history.

Atlanteax
06-03-2010, 11:51 AM
Apparently Bug Selig has the power to do via "in the best interests of baseball" clause ... and there are quite a few sport analysts calling for him to do so.

kookiegod
06-03-2010, 12:06 PM
Listening to the Ump Joyce, he is taking full responsibility to making a bad call, gotta give him credit for manning up.

~Paul

Cephalopod
06-03-2010, 12:10 PM
http://blstb.msn.com/i/2F/B08E3B6DA577844C7B7BD57D47E3C.jpg

Ardwen
06-03-2010, 12:29 PM
Not once since baseball has gained a commissioner has one overturned an on field game play, this is far from the first such incedent. Selig could make them play in kilts, ball gowns or nude and say it was best interest, that power is pretty much never ysed, mostly because the players union would riot heh.

Parkbandit
06-03-2010, 01:05 PM
Not once since baseball has gained a commissioner has one overturned an on field game play, this is far from the first such incedent. Selig could make them play in kilts, ball gowns or nude and say it was best interest, that power is pretty much never ysed, mostly because the players union would riot heh.

What would it change though? It was clearly a mistake.. but one that had no bearing on the end result, except a pitcher was robbed of a once in a lifetime achievement. I say give him his perfect game, take away the hit from the guy who hit it.. who's really being hurt here? Seems to me, the players union would be in agreement.

Allereli
06-03-2010, 01:13 PM
http://blstb.msn.com/i/2F/B08E3B6DA577844C7B7BD57D47E3C.jpg

you have no idea how close I came to posting this picture. I've been thinking about Rat Race all night because of this

Ardwen
06-03-2010, 02:11 PM
And if the call blown had been one that allowed a run in a 1-0 game? Slippery Slope issues, I doubt they'll change it. I'd love it if they do but I'll be shocked if they do. A whole lot of other awful calls would also need to be both reviewed and changed if they changed this one. However I think this will force MLB to implement a better replay rule.

Gan
06-03-2010, 02:13 PM
This just opened the door wider for instant replay. Especially since it is already used for foul ball/homerun balls in question.

This would be #21 if I remember right - if Selig were to overturn the call and end the game as a no-hitter.

Its especially painful since the pitcher was the one covering 1st base for the out (that was not an out).

Celephais
06-03-2010, 02:16 PM
This just opened the door wider for instant replay. Especially since it is already used for foul ball/homerun balls in question.

This would be #21 if I remember right - if Selig were to overturn the call and end the game as a no-hitter.

Its especially painful since the pitcher was the one covering 1st base for the out (that was not an out).

#21 for perfect games, 3rd of the year (crazy). The other option is making it an error, and a no hitter, which would not be a perfect game, but at least then they don't have to "Undo" the next at bat.

Tisket
06-03-2010, 02:27 PM
I feel bad for the umpire. I'm glad he already took responsibility for the bad call and called the pitcher to apologize for it.

I agree. He actually apologized to the pitcher in person and publicly on the radio. It kind of takes the fun out of hating on the ump though. The bastard.

I do wonder how it will affect the rest of his career as an umpire. But I don't know how umps get assigned to MLB games in the first place.

thefarmer
06-03-2010, 02:34 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5246454

Methais
06-03-2010, 02:47 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0602/mlb_e_blowncall_203.jpg

Allereli
06-03-2010, 04:08 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/04/sports/baseball/04tigers.html?hp

GM gave Galarraga a $53,000 red Corvette

Gan
06-03-2010, 04:25 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/04/sports/baseball/04tigers.html?hp

GM gave Galarraga a $53,000 red Corvette

From the article:


Meanwhile, Commissioner Bud Selig (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/bud_selig/index.html?inline=nyt-per) released a statement Thursday afternoon saying that because of Joyce’s call “and other recent events,” he would examine the umpiring system, the expanded use of instant replay and other related features. But before announcing a ruling, he said he would consult with unions and baseball’s special committee for on-field matters, which includes managers, general managers, club owners and presidents.

The statement read, in part: “As Jim Joyce said in his postgame comments, there is no dispute that last night’s game should have ended differently. While the human element has always been an integral part of baseball, it is vital that mistakes on the field be addressed.”
So far the door's open to reversal. We'll see if it is considered.

And also from the same article:


Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, said he hoped Selig would eventually reverse the call and declare that Galarraga had achieved a perfect game. “I think it’s tremendously heartening to see someone understand they made a mistake and someone accept the apology,” he said at his afternoon briefing.
:wtf:
Why would the white house even feel the need to comment on this? Seriously?

Celephais
06-03-2010, 04:34 PM
:wtf:
Why would the white house even feel the need to comment on this? Seriously?

Did you read further? Some Representative is putting forth some house resolution to call on MLB to reverse it. Ridiculous.

Gan
06-03-2010, 04:48 PM
I can understand the Detroit Mayor wanting to do something (as listed in the article), but our Congressional idiots (Federal level) need to focus their job for a change. This includes the White House.

Next thing you know, Obama will hire John Madden because he's an expert in instant replay, to consult with Bud Selig about proposed enhancement of instant replay (use of) in MLB. (Yes, I know Madden was a football coach turned sports commentator.)

Celephais
06-03-2010, 04:55 PM
"In a bold move the house challenges this years Tony award nominees."

LMingrone
06-03-2010, 05:03 PM
Listen to Mike on YES or WFAN today. This stuff is hilarious.

"In a bold move I challenge Hurt Locker as best picture. We need instant replay at the Oscars."

Latrinsorm
06-03-2010, 05:18 PM
There have definitely been more inaccurate calls, but not many that happened at a worse time.

Asrial
06-03-2010, 06:10 PM
I think a good way to handle instant replay would be to give each team 3 replays (ala football) for the ENTIRE GAME (even if it goes into extra innings).

Keep the replay system as is for home runs.

Use the home run replay system to initiate replays on FINAL OUT events.

Parkbandit
06-03-2010, 06:19 PM
There have definitely been more inaccurate calls, but not many that happened at a worse time.

http://whoremotions.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/captain_obvious.jpg

Celephais
06-03-2010, 06:38 PM
I think a good way to handle instant replay would be to give each team 3 replays (ala football) for the ENTIRE GAME (even if it goes into extra innings).

Keep the replay system as is for home runs.

Use the home run replay system to initiate replays on FINAL OUT events.

3 replays a game per team would be awful. It'd happen so much and it would really suck. One a game, and if it's overturned you get another one. Three would be ridiculous. .. That or booth review only. In-fact I vote on booth review only.

BigWorm
06-03-2010, 07:02 PM
They should just use the NHL's system. Despite being the dumbest league in sports, that's one think the NHL does right IMHO.

TheEschaton
06-03-2010, 07:08 PM
NHL is all booth-initiated reviews, no?

Xanator
06-03-2010, 08:57 PM
NHL is all booth-initiated reviews, no?

As they pertain to goal calls, and there has to be definitive proof to overturn the ruling on the ice. For example, a player deflects a puck with his stick above the level of the crossbar into the net, and the referee calls it a goal. The booth can review this play to determine whether the puck was played with a high stick, and overturn the call on the ice if they have definitive proof that it was.

Much more commonly used to determine whether a puck crosses the goal line, in which case they have to be able to definitively see space between the puck and the line to overturn a no-goal, or definitively see no space between the puck and the line to overturn a goal. Can sometimes be an excruciatingly long process (10+ minute reviews have happened and can be momentum-killers), and the officials aren't exactly good at informing the crowd in attendance what they're reviewing if it's ambiguous.

Still a good system though, as the point is to get it right. I listened to a lot of local sports talk today, and it never ceases to amaze me how passionately some baseball fans want to keep the sport in the dark ages.