Wheel of Time

[Ryku]

Anyone here love The Wheel of Time as much as I do?

[Anebriated]

Its a great series, Jordan needs to finish it up though. Its starting to get a little long.

[peam]

I quit reading at the 4th book.

Booooooooooring.

[Vixen]

Love it, absolutely. I'm on the 6th book now

[Galleazzo]

Yeah, I think Jordan really could've used an editor. Too many sideplots dragging on too long. It's sorta why I think the whole thing (which'll be 12 books, not including New Spring) is a marketing ploy.

[DeV]

Originally posted by Ryku
Anyone here love The Wheel of Time as much as I do? Ryku, a short synopsis of the plot might peak my interest.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by DarkelfVold
Ryku, a short synopsis of the plot might peak my interest.

There is nothing short about The Wheel of Time.

[Mint]

Am I going to get bashed if I say I have no idea what the Wheel of Time is? TV show like Wheel of Fortune?

[Skirmisher]

Yes, painfully and at length.

[DeV]

Skirmisher is it anything similiar to Stephen Kings, Dark Tower series?

[Mint]

Originally posted by Skirmisher
Yes, painfully and at length.

You sound too enthusiastic...

[Skirmisher]

These are from Amazon.com

Editorial Reviews (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0812511816//qid=1080760786/sr=8-3/ref=pd_ka_3/104-1132532-1848725?v=glance&s=books&vi=reviews)



From Library Journal
The peaceful villagers of Emond's Field pay little heed to rumors of war in the western lands until a savage attack by troll-like minions of the Dark One forces three young men to confront a destiny which has its origins in the time known as The Breaking of the World. This richly detailed fantasy presents a fully realized, complex adventure which will appeal to fans of classic quests. Recommended.
Copyright 1990 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

"Jordan is able to take...familiar elements and make them his own, in a powerful novel of wide and complex scope. Open religious and political conflicts add a gritty realism, while the cities and courts provide plenty of drama and splendor. Women have a stronger role than in Tolkien...Each character in this large cast remains distinct....Their adventures are varied, and exciting....The Eye of the World stands alone as a fantasy epic."--Locus

If you do decide to try it, the advice i give to every person i speak to about it is to not give up till you get to at least page 100. The first book takes a little bit to reach escape velocity, but once the action starts its hard to put down.

It was originally thought by many to be a trilogy but quickly expanded due to his wordy writing style into much much larger a series.

Even if you don't read the whole thing I think the first five books or so are quite entertaining and should be alot of fun for most.

[Galleazzo]

Basically these bunch of farm kids from the frigging back of beyond find out they're central to the upcoming Armageddon, and the hugely long story tells of how they change under the pressures. Characterizations are cool, the scenes are good, the dialogue's not bad, and the plot's okay, but it's being dragged out forever, too much of what's going on seems to be there just to fill more books, and the snappiest dialogue and characterizations get thin after long enough.

[DeV]

Nice honest review Galleazzo.. I might just check out and read the first book. See how I like it from there.

[Anebriated]

Im done all the books he has put out. I highly suggest it to anyone who likes a good read and likes Gemstone. There are alot of similarities. Finish book one and youll be hooked.

[Ravenstorm]

There are WoT Muds and Mushes out there for people interested in one.

Raven

[Vesi]

Originally posted by Galleazzo
Yeah, I think Jordan really could've used an editor. Too many sideplots dragging on too long. It's sorta why I think the whole thing (which'll be 12 books, not including New Spring) is a marketing ploy.

I heard he was married to the editor.

I started reading them several years ago and then realized not all of them were out. (I usually check that) I was reading faster than he could produce them. I wait several years and pick up again and lo and behold that damn wheel is still turning! I may go back and finish them once he's written them all.

Vesi

[Galleazzo]

Heh, you know how I started reading 'em? Another marketing ploy.

Bunch of years ago I was finishing a job and had time to kill, so I found myself in a bookstore. Publisher had packaged the first 2/3rd of the 1st book and had a stack of them out. Free of charge, take one away.

Well, hot damn, free book, worked for me. So I took it. A'course I had to get the thing to see how it ended.

Oops.

If you want to try it out, I say go check your library. That way you get to check it out for free.

[Satira]

NOTHING is like the Dark Tower series, DarkElf.. NOTHING.

My ex loved the WoT series. I tried reading it a long time ago and found it to be dry and verbose.

[DeV]

Originally posted by Lady Satira
NOTHING is like the Dark Tower series, DarkElf.. NOTHING.

My ex loved the WoT series. I tried reading it a long time ago and found it to be dry and verbose. My girlfriend is hooked on the Dark Tower series. Currently trying to persuade me to read the first book so I too can be hooked. But Im resisting the forces for now.

[Satira]

They're the best. The first one, it's hard to get through the beginning but it's well worth it.

[Tsa`ah]

I picked up Eye of the World when it first came out in trade paperback my sophomore year of high school and have waited anxiously for each new release since.

It's a great series in my opinion.

[Nakiro]

I am a horribly slow ready. Reading a 12 book series would take me the better half of my natural life.

[Ryku]

hey its cool man, i dont read all that much anymore but i get through about one WoT book ever couple months or so. Just by readin a bit here and there, tryin to go to sleep and such, but honestly this series drew me in like nothing i've ever read before. Granted im not exactly a book worm type at all but if your into fantasy and great character interaction, just read the first 30 pages of The Eye of the World and you'll be fucking hooked!

[Edaarin]

My brother got books 1-3 for his birthday...9 years ago? We've been hooked ever since. RJ needs to hurry the fuck up and finish in case he gets into an accident or something...

[Scott]

I love the books. However it's starting to drag out. The first few books were amazing, now it's slowly going downhill. I hope he wraps them up before they start to really suck. I'd still recommend the series to anyone, they are great books.

[Ryku]

haha no doubt, i mean the guy isnt all that young, imagine if he up and died or something. Not only would we lose a badass writer, but SO many WoT readers would freakin FLIP! :no:

[Skirmisher]

Hell have you guys seen some of the websites that exist for this series?

Its kinda freaky and I love the series.

These guys have like EVERY page analyzed and every sentance diagramed.

If I were Jordan I would be Veeeeeery careful about meeting fans.......

[Galleazzo]

I can see it now -- whoops, RJ just kicked from a heart attack .....

"News flash: Tarmon Gai'don CANCELLED! The Shadow and the forces of the Light meet in Mayene for high-level talks designed to defuse tensions and establish a New World Order. A spokestrolloc for the Shayol Ghul regime says that progress is being made and a draft agreement should be forthcoming before Bel Tine. The Seanchan envoy to the crown of Illian refused comment, but unnamed sources close to the Daughter of Nine Moons have stated off the record that the Seanchan will not tolerate a separate peace that excludes them.

"This is Petal McBoot for the News Ajah, live from Mayene."

[Ryku]

:lol:

[Edaarin]

Book 12 is slated to come out October 11th.

Completely random bump, but I reaaaally freaking hope that there's a little more substance in it than in Book 10.

[Vixen]

I just finished a New Spring, cause I am cheap and waited for it to come out in paperback, but I was thrilled to actually have a release date for the next one. About damn time I say

Originally posted by Edaarin
Book 12 is slated to come out October 11th.

Completely random bump, but I reaaaally freaking hope that there's a little more substance in it than in Book 10.

By Book 10 you mean the preamble to book 11 right? Thats all it was...

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Dave
By Book 10 you mean the preamble to book 11 right? Thats all it was...

Well ya ... that's generally how a series works. 9 being the preamble to 10, 8 to 9 ... so on and so forth.

10 was without a climax. It was boring and seemed that Jordan really didn't have anything to rival Rand and Nynaeve cleansing the male half of the source. That camp sat around, we read several pages of Egwene's camp doing nothing but waiting. Matrim's camp not really doing anything ... perhaps bickering between Aes Sedai and Seanchan on the run. Perrin's camp had one opportunity for something climatic, be it storming Shaido camp, or something with the haunted town ... but no ... It was mainly him riding around and doing nothing more.

It wasn't a bad book, but it is the only one in the series that I actually put down for fear of boring myself to sleep.

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah

Originally posted by Dave
By Book 10 you mean the preamble to book 11 right? Thats all it was...

Well ya ... that's generally how a series works. 9 being the preamble to 10, 8 to 9 ... so on and so forth.

10 was without a climax. It was boring and seemed that Jordan really didn't have anything to rival Rand and Nynaeve cleansing the male half of the source. That camp sat around, we read several pages of Egwene's camp doing nothing but waiting. Matrim's camp not really doing anything ... perhaps bickering between Aes Sedai and Seanchan on the run. Perrin's camp had one opportunity for something climatic, be it storming Shaido camp, or something with the haunted town ... but no ... It was mainly him riding around and doing nothing more.

It wasn't a bad book, but it is the only one in the series that I actually put down for fear of boring myself to sleep.

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by Tsa`ah]

Yeah, um... Preambles tend to lack such a climax and or real story, they just give the setting for the story. So basically you told me I was wrong because in your eyes I can never be right, about anything, then went back and said I was right.
I <3 you too.

[Tsa`ah]

You're not that high on my list, so just drop that line of thought. I would have posted the same to anyone else making the statement.

Each book in the series, or any series, is a set up for the next book. The lack of climax didn't change the process in anyway.

:sniffle:

[Syberus]

I'm hoping that means this one is like 23987429837429734 pages and really good. 10 is almost a chore to get through, especially if you've already read it once.

[Galleazzo]

As long as the suckers keep popping $30 for each new hardcover, RJ's gonna keep writing them. Turned into a fucking soap opera long since.

[Overlord]

Heh, I have what I would call a weak consensus on the "lengthly" or "wordy" matter of WoT. I have been re-reading the series for the third time around and I'm currently on The Crossroads Of Twilight, and it kind of sucks...I'm urged to skip the parts I know are bloody insipid and relish the exceptional allotments such as the Siege of the White Tower and ....well thats about it really heh. Too much set up for the next installment.

Still love it though!!

[Caiylania]

I tried the first book and had to force myself to finish. That was it for me. My all time favorite fantasy series would be "The sword of truth series" by terry goodkind. Wizard's first rule was amazing, and they just keep getting better. I love how you never know whats going to happen next.

[Leetahkin]

I always start over with book one a few months before the next book is due to be released. It's been a while though, so I'll have to check to make sure I have all the books thus far.

I also read the Terry Goodkind Sword of Truth books.

[Vestarr]

Ive read the whole series of WoT so far and waiting on the next books.
Another good read is the Xanth series by Piers Anthony ..every book is a story in its owns but they are all subtly (sp) related thru characters and the land.

---Vest

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Galleazzo
As long as the suckers keep popping $30 for each new hardcover, RJ's gonna keep writing them. Turned into a fucking soap opera long since.

Costco is your friend.

New hardcovers are like $14 there. :D

[Overlord]

Originally posted by Nobody Cares
I also read the Terry Goodkind Sword of Truth books.
Beat me to that comment , loved the series as well, short and more direct. Excellent start with Wizards First Rule.

:smilegrin:

[Leetahkin]

Yup, and actually Caiylania beat me to it by a few seconds.
I found the TG books more... sadistic/risque at times.
And I still hate your sig.

[Overlord]

Originally posted by Nobody Cares
Yup, and actually Caiylania beat me to it by a few seconds.
I found the TG books more... sadistic/risque at times.
And I still hate your sig.

Thats the general idea.....Erm, how does the new one settle with you. (As if your opinion truely makes a difference in the matter!!)

[Leetahkin]

LMAO!!!
Aww, you're so sweet! :heart: it

[Overlord]

*Groans and stumbles into the nearest wall*

Yeah.....sweet :rock:
:whistle:

[KymberlynX]

Originally posted by Vestarr
Ive read the whole series of WoT so far and waiting on the next books.
Another good read is the Xanth series by Piers Anthony ..every book is a story in its owns but they are all subtly (sp) related thru characters and the land.

---Vest

I read the first 15 of the Xanth series...very good indeed. I've wanted to re-read them all for some time now, but I can't seem to find them all.

Another good series that I am currently reading is the Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin.

I tried the first book in WoT series, but couldn't get into it.

Anyone who has read both WoT and Song of Ice and Fire able to give a comparison of the two?

[Numbers]

Used to love thse books, but as others have already said, they've gone on for waaaay too long. The first three were incredible. The next three were meh... the last few have been crap. Winter's Heart and Crossroad of Twilight had NOTHING happen in them. 800 pages of nothing! It's almost a chore to read the books at this point, but I've got to, cause I need to know how it all ends.

I've tried the Sword of Truth books, but I stopped reading them years ago after the third book, I think. I've been thinking of going back to them, but I wasn't really enjoying them.

The best series I've read so far is the Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin. There's been three books in it so far, with the fourth coming out soon. Definitely worth a look.

http://tinyurl.com/chf5j

[Edited on 6-7-2005 by 3704558]

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by Ryku
Anyone here love The Wheel of Time as much as I do?

Is Wheel of Time the one with the pussy ass dwarves who are all like "omfg, I broke a nail! NOOOOO" ?

Or is that the Death Gate Cycle? I always get them confused. Which ever is the one with the pussy ass dwarves, I could not stand. Dwarves are not pussies! They are teh l33t!

[Prestius]

For a synopsis, scroll down to the Robert Jordan books here:

http://rinkworks.com/bookaminute/sff.shtml

[Gan]

Loved the books initially, loved the large number of pages, hate the way Jordan has strung it out for so long, and I've since forgotten what has happened detail wise after the 5th book. I bought the 10th book but put it down because I couldnt remember half the characters. I might consider re-reading if he ever concludes it and I know there is a definate ending. Otherwise I'll keep the WoT series in the same category as Terry Goodkind's series that started out well but as since become too commercialized/strung out. Bleh.

They need to follow Terry Brooks and set it up in trilogies that are intra related but with the focus that is on the initial set of 3 that you're currently reading. Or even stretch it out like Stepen Donaldson's Chronicles of Thomas Covenant which was in 2 series of 6 books each (and has a new book out in hardback now for the third set of 6 possibly).

[Tsa`ah]

As a rule I avoid anything written by Piers Anthony. Unless his writing style has drastically changed, he does nothing but regurgitate the same story over and over. On occasion he delves into his bestiality cravings, and in every one of his books ... he has writer's block when it comes to names.

Terry Brooks is always a good read.

I think the WoT series would have been better if he fleshed out the Age of Legends more. The best books were the first, of course, and the third or fourth (which ever has Rand and Mat going through the ter-angreal in Moridian). I had thought the random glimpses at events from just before the War of Shadow to the Aiel settling in the Waste were hints at what was to come story wise. A book, a few chapters per book ... what have you, of events from Mat's prior lives, Lews Therin's life ... anything. I think those stories would have been 100x better than the last couple.

[Harlock]

Originally posted by peam
I quit reading at the 4th book.

Booooooooooring.

Same here. After book four I felt no need to carry on. The books were getting very tedious and similar. Only the hazards and which characters were in trouble changed. Jordan can write ensemble characters very well, but he struggles with plot.

[Apotheosis]

For all you wheel of time fans

http://www.wotmud.org/

[AnticorRifling]

I read the first one, haven't picked up the series since then.

Everytime I hear/read wheel of time the voice in my head goes "Wheel of morality turn turn turn tell us the lesson we must learn" ala Animaniacs.

[Overlord]

Originally posted by Adredrin

Originally posted by Ryku
Anyone here love The Wheel of Time as much as I do?

Is Wheel of Time the one with the pussy ass dwarves who are all like "omfg, I broke a nail! NOOOOO" ?

Or is that the Death Gate Cycle? I always get them confused. Which ever is the one with the pussy ass dwarves, I could not stand. Dwarves are not -------! They are teh l33t!

lmfao thats the Death Gate Cycle, I haven't read those since like 95. The windows had a transclucent film going across them like skin. And yeah, the falling breaking of the nails...pussys

[Praefection]

Too funny since I first picked up the first book about eight years ago. Like others have said the first few were amazing and I gradually worked my way through the next seven or eight. I forget which one I quit reading on when I couldn't remember what character was what or where they were.

Although if he ever did pull the books together and finish the series I'd probably pick them up and reread til the end.

[Overlord]

Thats my only concern, I remember reading as they were released, but I kept re-reading them all when the next came out. I'm just finishing The Crossroads Of Twilight but in october I'll be reading them all again!! (Just for novelty purposes)

[Leetahkin]

I am so horrible about that. I have to reread each series over with book one, because quite frankly, I can never remember half the story by the time the next book comes out.

And.. am I the only one that has conflicting emotions over the forest scene in Sword of Truth books? :embarrassed:

[Overlord]

to which forest scene are you reffering?

[Leetahkin]

the umm.... female was turned... bad one

Edited to add: If you still don't recall, u2u me. I can't bring myself to explain it here.

[Edited on 6-8-2005 by Nobody Cares]

[Hips]

bump. (http://www.knifeofdreams.com/excerpt.php)

[Jayvn]

This whole thread makes me want to read part of the first book so I can say I didn't like it too and be cool with everyone else =/

[Jayvn]

Ok, I just clicked on michi's link and saw book 11 !!!! yeah..that's about 10 books further than I need to go.. that's almost 4 trilogy's... I prefer my reading to be forced in mindless scroll as I clickety clack at the homerow keys.

[Jayvn]

Ok, I just clicked on michi's link and saw book 11 !!!! yeah..that's about 10 books further than I need to go.. that's almost 4 trilogy's... I prefer my reading to be forced in mindless scroll as I clickety clack at the homerow keys.

[Numbers]

That excerpt isn't too promising. I'd almost forgotten how dull and pedantic Jordan's writing style has become. That whole spiel from the excerpt could have been written with half the words and twice the entertainment.

I may end up just giving up on the series and reading a synopsis once the last book comes out in 2027.

[NocturnalRob]

4 year bump for all you NYCers

Brandon Sanderson is going to be at the Barnes & Noble near Union Square today at 7pm to discuss "The Gathering Storm." I may try to get down there. Should be interesting and nerd-tastic.

[Belnia]

I love The Wheel of Time as written by Sanderson so much more than The Wheel of Time as written by Jordan.

Everything flows more smoothly, the breaks in the action come at opportune times that MAKE SENSE, and I'm not left following characters I hate for 200 pages. A++

[BriarFox]

Stuff actually happens in TGS! Characters evolve! Plots move! It's awesome. Some very funny scenes, too (like Mat describing how women fool you).

[Hips]

I thought the first half or so was pretty much boring (and spot on for Robert Jordan) but shit really picks up and by chapter 39 I was glued to the book. Bravo, Brandon Sanderson.

[droit]

I read (and liked) the first 5 books in the series before giving up. Can I skip the 4000 pages or so of nonsense between them and this book, or do I have to trudge through the whole thing if I want to have any clue what's going on?

[Hips]

I think you'll miss out on some of the character development (mainly with Mat, I could care less about Perrin and I DETEST Faile), but I'd look for a synopsis. The Gathering Storm is definitely worth the read, even if you got bored with the previous books. I'm serious, chapter 39 (and the following chapters) made EVERYTHING worth it, even though there was a serious lack of Mat. Poor Mat. <3 Mat.

[g++]

Skip the whole thing imo. I read the first book and about half of the second book, then at one point I realized I had just read a six page description of a barn and I threw the book away.

[lostinlove]

well i read first 4 books and that was enough for me 4th one was quite boring

[BriarFox]

well i read first 4 books and that was enough for me 4th one was quite boring

Yeah, 1-3 are great. 4 is very dull. 5 gets better, mostly because of Mat. 6 is a mix of very interesting and very dull parts. 7, 8, 9, and 10 should have been one book. 11 isn't bad. 12 is turning out to be great.

[Danical]

Yeah, 1-3 are great. 4 is very dull. 5 gets better, mostly because of Mat. 6 is a mix of very interesting and very dull parts. 7, 8, 9, and 10 should have been one book. 11 isn't bad. 12 is turning out to be great.

You quoted a bot!

I read 4 or 5 or something and I absolutely could not stand any of the characters, except for Mat of course.

Nyneave or whatever tugging on her braid 2903482390840398 times can suck a bag of dicks.

[Ashlander]

Don't forget about Rand's foursome.

[Numbers]

I've been slow-going so far, only up to chapter 20 or something. I'm glad to hear it gets better, though. It's been a bit of a snooze-fest so far.

[Ardwen]

That bot had one of the best posts in the thread though!

[Stretch]

Finally got around to finishing it.

Plot resolutions FTW, although I didn't really like the last few chapters.

[Numbers]

Finished it the other night. The last half of the book definitely flowed a lot better than the first half. It's also good that plots are finally being wrapped up. Some things still confused me, though.


SPOILERS!!!!
What the hell was the deal with the zombie chapter?
Why did Rand destroying the statue cause Lews to shut up?
Which Forsaken are still alive? I forgot what happened to Asmodean and Moghedian.
Whatever happened to the gray shadow assassin from a previous book?
I forgot what happened to Padan Fain. Is he still alive?
Is it me or is the ending kind of predictable with the whole Callandor only being useful with one man and two women?

I'm sure I could answer some of these by rereading past books, but I really don't want to. I need cliff notes or something.

[BriarFox]

What the hell was the deal with the zombie chapter?

Zombies?

Why did Rand destroying the statue cause Lews to shut up?

Lews Therin was always moaning about how men shouldn't have that much power. Maybe he's less worried now.

Which Forsaken are still alive? I forgot what happened to Asmodean and Moghedian.

I think he's killed about 8 or 9 of them, but a couple have come back. So .. Demandred, the new Ishmael or whatever his name is, Mesaana, aran'gar and osan'gar, and possibly Lanfear? Something like that.

Whatever happened to the gray shadow assassin from a previous book?

You mean aran'gar and osan'gar? Or the Grey Men? Or the gholam?

I forgot what happened to Padan Fain. Is he still alive?

Didn't the Black Wind in the Ways eat him?

Is it me or is the ending kind of predictable with the whole Callandor only being useful with one man and two women?

Yeah, totally going to be Rand, Elayne, and Aviendha.

[Danical]

I hear the internet (http://www.wotmud.org/directory/summaries.php) is a good source of information.

Also, I actually bought the d20 version of WoT. I actually read most of the fatty book and learned a shitload and how certain characters were expressed mechanically. Some were obvious, some were disappointing, and some were very surprising given the text.

[Danical]

lulz, three ways are a good way to end the book.

[Danical]

also, didn't Fain die in like book 3 or 4????

(Didn't the Black Wind in the Ways eat him?)

[Tsa`ah]

What the hell was the deal with the zombie chapter?

Wha huh?


Why did Rand destroying the statue cause Lews to shut up?


You have your cause and effect mixed up. Destroying the male choden kal was an act of sanity.


Which Forsaken are still alive? I forgot what happened to Asmodean and Moghedian.

Well, aside from the two killed by balefire in this book ... Be'lal and Rahvin were also killed in a similar manner. They won't be reincarnated.

Ishamael was killed and then reincarnated as Moridin.
Lanfear was killed and then reincarnated as Cyndane.
Aginor killed himself and was then reincarnated as Osan'gar (Dashiva) ... who was killed.
Balthamel was killed and the reincarnated as Aran'gar (a woman ... Halima).
Sammael presumed dead, consumed by mashadar in Aridhol.
Asmodean killed by Rahvin and then unkilled when Rand killed Rahvin with balefire ... only to be killed moments later by an unknown assailant that he apparently knew.

So 6 remain. 3 reincarnates and 3 of the remaining 5 that weren't roasted via balefire in this book. 3 can still, apparently, be reincarnated. It's like they're fucking Cylons.


Whatever happened to the gray shadow assassin from a previous book?

There were all sort of assassins. Some were shadowspawn, some were altered by the shadow. You need to be a bit more specific.


I forgot what happened to Padan Fain. Is he still alive?

Fain set a trap for Rand that backfired. Either Rand or Lan put a mortal hurt on him and he fled. RJ said we would see him again in MoL, as well as the identity of Asmodean's killer. Sanderson has confirmed it.



Is it me or is the ending kind of predictable with the whole Callandor only being useful with one man and two women?

I don't believe it will be Elayne for a number of reasons (about to pop a baby out being chief among them), or Aviendha. Min has seen the same for her. Alivia is likely to be one, probably Nynaeve for the other.

[BriarFox]

What the hell was the deal with the zombie chapter?

Zombies?

Ahhh. You mean the town south of Caemlyn that Mat stops at for provisions, only to stay there until dark after being warned to go away. Then all the people go fucking schizoid nuts, lose their minds, and start trying to orangutan each other.

It was the result of one of those "bubbles of evil" in the Pattern. The Dark One's presence is affecting reality in strange ways, and this town was one example.

[Numbers]

Yeah, I got the bubbles of evil thing, but it seems like an awfully long and unimportant chapter in the scheme of things. Just filler. I felt like I was reading a Max Brooks book for a second.

And the gray assassin, I think it was the gholam? That thing that could melt into shadows.

[BriarFox]

Yeah, I got the bubbles of evil thing, but it seems like an awfully long and unimportant chapter in the scheme of things. Just filler. I felt like I was reading a Max Brooks book for a second.

And the gray assassin, I think it was the gholam? That thing that could melt into shadows.

Gholam's still out there somewhere. Last I remember, Mat scared it away with his foxhead pendant, since something about the way it negates the One Power and the way the gholam negates it clash. When he touched it with it, it started smoking.

[Numbers]

Does anyone know when Sanderson expects to have the next one out? I know in the foreword he said he was halfway done with it, but I'm really hoping it comes out sooner rather than later.

[BriarFox]

Does anyone know when Sanderson expects to have the next one out? I know in the foreword he said he was halfway done with it, but I'm really hoping it comes out sooner rather than later.

Nov of 2010, I think, then Nov of 2011 for the third.

[Stretch]

Bump. Next book will be released in less than two weeks (Nov 2nd).

It has taken 20 freaking years to get to this point.

[BriarFox]

Looking forward to it. Already pre-ordered on Amazon.

[Gsgeek]

Same , getting psyched for it. Probably gonna reread the previous one though to refresh where everything stands again.

[Stretch]

Finally found the time to read it.

I'm glad that a lot of the loose ends are getting tied up, but it feels really rushed. I wish some of this stuff had made it into the really, really, really slow books.

[LeDru]

Nearly finished with the new one, lots of things get wrapped up but some still left hanging. Great read though.

[Hips]

I get that the last battle is coming and all, but I hate how it seems (to me) like everyone is pairing up/getting married. :/

[Lord Orbstar]

If Jordan had not died, I am sure the series would have never fucking ended. I am glad to finally almost be done with it. Half my LIFE waiting to end a book series that seemed to splinter like the hydra. Every book launched 3 more plot off-shoots of irrelevance it seemed.

Reading Towers of Midnight now, one more and we are all done.

[Lumi]

Finished it a couple days ago, loved it. I feel a little crappy saying this, but it's like Sanderson is better at writing Robert Jordan's series than Jordan was.

Sanderson is the freaking man. Can't wait for the last book!

[Enitocin]

Anyone need a hand?