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dethawed
05-16-2010, 02:29 PM
Dug up an old item from my locker, someone wants to buy it but I figure I should get an appraisal
It's a stein that can be filled with water, spring water from the grocery works. Once you have water in it you can cast some spells on the stein which turns the water inside to a drinkable spell.
From what I remember:
Minor shock = haste
Bless = bravery
MD = +10 mana
Elemental Defense = ewave
Colors = Phoen's Strength
Calm= Minor Sanct
As you can see the spells gained are from the same circle of the spell cast, but once the stein is charged, anyone can drink from it.
There were other spells, but I can't remember. The stein can hold up to 20 sips of a liquid. Every 2 sips require 1 cast of a spell to charge.
Also if you are not a dwarf the stein can stun you when you drink. I would say it is close to a 1 in 10 chance, but I am unsure on the exact chance.
Ice age stein
s>tap stein
You tap a rough hewn windak stein capped with dwarven steel, which is in your right hand.
>drink stein
You tip your stein up to your mouth only to find out it is empty.
>pour water in my stein
You carefully pour a little bit from your clear spring water into your windak stein.
You have 3 quaffs left.
>close stein
You close a windak stein.
>901 stein
You trace a series of glowing runes while chanting the phrase for Minor Shock...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a windak stein.
The stein flashes silver and shakes a little.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>open stein
You open a windak stein.
>drink stein
You tilt back your stein and take a gulp of the delicious drink.
You begin to notice the world slow down around you. Strange.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
Curious what this could fetch.
m444w
05-16-2010, 02:38 PM
A decent amount, the dwarf thing makes it a problem for hunting with it, and the recharge properties sort of limit it. neat item though... I'd say 50 mill or so. If you are looking to trade, let me know.
I believe the idea was later copied in an urnon chalice, or black ora chalice, but that has been since lost.
Kitsun
05-16-2010, 02:39 PM
You've got more than one someone wanting to buy it. Screw that guy and contact me!
Ardwen
05-16-2010, 03:38 PM
Screw them both and contact me, and and and heh
Morph
05-16-2010, 04:35 PM
smells like something you should auction
Buckwheet
05-16-2010, 05:34 PM
I am down with an auction.
kookiegod
05-16-2010, 05:42 PM
ditto
Inspire
05-16-2010, 07:49 PM
I would auction it, If Ondreian is offering 50m for it, it's probably worth 100m.
StrayRogue
05-16-2010, 08:00 PM
I don't think that's worth 100m. Not even 50 million. Way too restrictive. Regardless, a cool item.
Stunseed
05-16-2010, 08:01 PM
I would auction it, If Ondreian is offering 50m for it, it's probably worth 100m.
Bitter, party of 2....
Wait, that's a rubber doll, not your Wife!
PS. Tell your Wife she sucks at CvC.
Inspire
05-16-2010, 08:03 PM
Bitter, party of 2....
Wait, that's a rubber doll, not your Wife!
PS. Tell your Wife she sucks at CvC.
Oh look, someone who thinks he's important.
Too bad you're just fat and ugly and ... not important.
Why are you still stalking me... 2 years later? Psycho!
dethawed
05-16-2010, 08:04 PM
Thank you all for the info.
I'm going to try to find the full list of spells before I decide to do anything else with it.
I just returned to the lands after about 8 years. Still trying to gauge the current market.
Stunseed
05-16-2010, 08:05 PM
Did your Jennifer Lopez hand type that out?
PS. Your keyboard is going to short if you don't stop crying about the ass-raping you took today.
Stunseed
05-16-2010, 08:11 PM
Let me know how that multiple personality issue you have comes out. I don't need to defend anything considering you attempted to slander a respectable merchant and are clearly far too emotionally upset from the absolute murking you got today.
Count to ten, buddy. You'll have to open up J-Lo to do that, but I promise all you have to do is close your fist and everything will be alright.
Inspire
05-16-2010, 08:16 PM
Let me know how that multiple personality issue you have comes out. I don't need to defend anything considering you attempted to slander a respectable merchant and are clearly far too emotionally upset from the absolute murking you got today.
Count to ten, buddy. You'll have to open up J-Lo to do that, but I promise all you have to do is close your fist and everything will be alright.
Please find someone else to masterbate to.
Stunseed
05-16-2010, 08:22 PM
Then how bout you stop being a complete jackass in a text-based game that hates you? Obviously from what happened today, you need to take a step back and recover mentally before you wrap the iron's power cord around the neck. You are many things, but for the love of everything holy, move the radio away from the bathtub, man.
Play some adventure quest, or something before you fly over the top...It's alright to admit you have a problem, but you need to seriously get help.
StrayRogue
05-16-2010, 08:26 PM
WTF happened today?!
Danical
05-16-2010, 08:26 PM
Details?
EDIT: SR beat me to it! :fist:
:rofl: I love how a simple appraisal turns into a giant f5 war <3
Kitsun
05-16-2010, 08:31 PM
TLDR Version:
Tycine was being a complete bitch cunt by casting spells when a mechant, Leanney was working. Tycine was asked politely to stop. Tycine essentially calls merchant a retard. Merchant decides she doesn't have to take this shit and leave.
Leanney tries to come back to do more work. Tycine comes back again. Tycine is told no work will be done if she is there. People tell Tycine to fuck off. She does not. Leanney goes away.
Tycine wanders out of sanct. I set her on fire. Glanvis, friend of Tycine, spikes her to death.
Kizun posts on officials. Multiple people tell him he is wrong. He either pulls his post or gets it pulled.
Enter now.
m444w
05-16-2010, 08:32 PM
Kizun's MA crew met a bigger fish in the pond, after acting like a complete jackass (constantly casting sanctuary while a demon was interfering with it in the same room and causing a ton of screen scroll) and pissing off a merchant by calling her retarded and a bitch, and thereby infuriating her enough so that she didn't want to work anymore.
He pretended the merchant discriminated against his "wife" on the officials, and made another pissy moany thread. Alot of people called him on it (myself included, though my post got pulled because I mentioned him by name).
Topped off by the biggest epic fail i've seen in awhile when he spikethorned another character in his MA crew instead of Livn (who immolated him for his usual deucebaggery, bullying the lower level characters that were standing around tell him to leave).
dethawed
05-16-2010, 08:34 PM
TLDR Version:
Tycine was being a complete bitch cunt by casting spells when a mechant, Leanney was working. Tycine was asked politely to stop. Tycine essentially calls merchant a retard. Merchant decides she doesn't have to take this shit and leave.
Leanney tries to come back to do more work. Tycine comes back again. Tycine is told no work will be done if she is there. People tell Tycine to fuck off. She does not. Leanney goes away.
Tycine wanders out of sanct. I set her on fire. Glanvis, friend of Tycine, spikes her to death.
Kizun posts on officials. Multiple people tell him he is wrong. He either pulls his post or gets it pulled.
Enter now.
Is this the lands that I have came back to, bunch of people who can't sort things out in game?
Stunseed
05-16-2010, 08:36 PM
Inspire/Sylvancode/J-Lo hander is now the worst cancer this game has. The rest of the population is much better off than this absolute waste of space.
Kitsun
05-16-2010, 08:36 PM
I'd say it says a lot that Kizun is pretty much standing by himself on this topic. I didn't see a single person that didn't think he was a raging douche. He's just special in his own little way.
Danical
05-16-2010, 08:39 PM
Link to thread on officials?
(sry for encouraged derailing of thread)
StrayRogue
05-16-2010, 08:42 PM
lol awesome.
I may reactivate to Solescape-destroy his ass to oblivion
Drevihyin
05-16-2010, 08:47 PM
https://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=8&topic=3&page=39
Fallen
05-16-2010, 08:59 PM
Even with deleted/pulled posts that was a funny read.
deadly
05-17-2010, 04:21 AM
wish i had the silver for this i would buy it for my capped dwarf
Kitsun
05-17-2010, 06:27 AM
Admitting to breaking policy.
Not smart!
Lulz on the rest. Plz continue.
In your myopic view, Tycine did nothing to initiate conflict. How everyone else sees it though: Just to be a spiteful bitch, Tycine denied the other 20-25 people in the room a chance at something like 8 to 12 more chances at being chosen to be able to make an item.
There were infact verbal warnings, threats and indicators that she was not safe following her course of action.
You can put your blinders and earmuffs on all you want, until I hear from a GM that my actions were inappropriate, you're just full of wind. I don't actually see you running to assist and report to document the altercation where you think I broke policy. Is it because you know you're full of shit?
What really makes your actions truly fucking disgusting? The GM was trying to stay IC but was asking for some compassion in just keeping the scrolling to a minimum. You weren't even nice enough to give her a sorry, you went right for the "U R TARD" attack.
Buckwheet
05-17-2010, 08:37 AM
WTB Log!
StrayRogue
05-17-2010, 12:52 PM
God you are an idiot Inspire.
Jarvan
05-17-2010, 01:12 PM
I always found it funny as hell that people think RPing a char that pisses off merchants is just RPing.
And yet they cry and bitch when someone else Rps a person that kills people that pisses off merchants.
It's just RPing people.
This said, anyone that makes a merchant leave by being a dick or bitch, deserves to have their deeds burned thru in the quickest way possible.
RichardCranium
05-17-2010, 01:13 PM
Is this the lands that I have came back to, bunch of people who can't sort things out in game?
lol
phantasm
05-17-2010, 03:54 PM
No, its much worse than this.
dethawed
05-20-2010, 03:24 PM
A few people have inquired more info about the stein.
My current offer on it is a self mana prayer item, which I feel is a perfect fit for my warmage.
Only other spell I feel I need more would be Heroism, I have a couple mage rechargeables with it right now, but I've been told recharging is bunk.
As to negative effects on the stein. The chance of a stun if your not a dwarf. It gives a flat 2 round stun every time. I'll try to get a clip when I'm home from work.
Also the fact it can only hold one spell at a time. If you fill it up with 20 drinks and turn all the water (10 casts) you will have to drain it completely before you can start again.
If it is empty, it is just a basic drink holder. You can drink plain water from it if you want to, though I don't know why you would want to.
Inspire
05-20-2010, 04:43 PM
A few people have inquired more info about the stein.
My current offer on it is a self mana prayer item, which I feel is a perfect fit for my warmage.
Only other spell I feel I need more would be Heroism, I have a couple mage rechargeables with it right now, but I've been told recharging is bunk.
As to negative effects on the stein. The chance of a stun if your not a dwarf. It gives a flat 2 round stun every time. I'll try to get a clip when I'm home from work.
Also the fact it can only hold one spell at a time. If you fill it up with 20 drinks and turn all the water (10 casts) you will have to drain it completely before you can start again.
If it is empty, it is just a basic drink holder. You can drink plain water from it if you want to, though I don't know why you would want to.
Self mana prayer is worth about 60m.
Self mana Heroism is worth about 90m.
Your Stein is worth at least 150m. (Perma-Haste)
IE. You can have both the items you want if you SELL the item vs trading for 1 single item
BigWorm
05-20-2010, 05:04 PM
Self mana prayer is worth about 60m.
Self mana Heroism is worth about 90m.
Your Stein is worth at least 150m. (Perma-Haste)
IE. You can have both the items you want if you SELL the item vs trading for 1 single item
How is this perma-haste?
Self mana prayer is worth about 60m.
Self mana Heroism is worth about 90m.
Your Stein is worth at least 150m. (Perma-Haste)
IE. You can have both the items you want if you SELL the item vs trading for 1 single item
These prices are all wrong. Self mana heroism would be worth SO much more than that. If this stein really was perma haste, it'd be worth more than that. The pitslasher would be worth more than that today.
That stein is an awesome item, no doubt, but don't base your prices off what this nob says. I do have a question, can you charge the haste with iron and silver wands? Or with minor shock imbedded in a ranger wand?
Danical
05-20-2010, 06:02 PM
A few people have inquired more info about the stein.
My current offer on it is a self mana prayer item, which I feel is a perfect fit for my warmage.
Only other spell I feel I need more would be Heroism, I have a couple mage rechargeables with it right now, but I've been told recharging is bunk.
As to negative effects on the stein. The chance of a stun if your not a dwarf. It gives a flat 2 round stun every time. I'll try to get a clip when I'm home from work.
Also the fact it can only hold one spell at a time. If you fill it up with 20 drinks and turn all the water (10 casts) you will have to drain it completely before you can start again.
If it is empty, it is just a basic drink holder. You can drink plain water from it if you want to, though I don't know why you would want to.
I think you'd be best off holding a public auction than trying to trade behind closed doors. If you don't know the market very well set it at a MB of 100m and let all the sharks come to you, so to speak.
Reltov420
05-20-2010, 06:16 PM
Auction this thing! Prayer is nice, but common on scrolls and scrolls can be charged almost forever. The stein has multiple spells, several very useful ones, and lasts forever. Any one spell item wouldnt be worth this thing. I'll reluctantly inculde self mana heroism or targeting with that...
Inspire
05-20-2010, 07:12 PM
These prices are all wrong. Self mana heroism would be worth SO much more than that. If this stein really was perma haste, it'd be worth more than that. The pitslasher would be worth more than that today.
That stein is an awesome item, no doubt, but don't base your prices off what this nob says. I do have a question, can you charge the haste with iron and silver wands? Or with minor shock imbedded in a ranger wand?
Have you been keeping up with what has been sold and for what price? I have... The 215 ring has sold a couple times. It's not self mana, so I used the wrong word, but the price range is accurate.
I believe it was the the 5x per day self recharging heroism that went for 90m.
I believe with the way this stein works, you could have perma-haste very easily. You'd need a bottle of water and a silver wand.
The pitslasher would be worth more IMO but this would be a suitable and obtainable substitute, unlike the short sword.
I believe with the way this stein works, you could have perma-haste very easily. You'd need a bottle of water and a silver wand.
And you'd need to be a dwarf unless you want to risk stunfucking your self every time you try to refresh your haste.
pabstblueribbon
05-20-2010, 10:15 PM
People who know what they're doing have dwarven chars regardless
Inspire
05-20-2010, 10:27 PM
People who know what they're doing have dwarven chars regardless
I was waiting for that.
Are they really that mechanically better off? Fat, smelly, hairy... no thanks. Plus everyone knows Sylvans are hung.
Archigeek
05-21-2010, 12:35 AM
Your stein is effectively worth as much as a gem eater, except that what you charge it with is much much easier to find. If it works with wands as someone asked, it's worth even more, because then pretty much anyone can use it in the field. It isn't however anything close to an effective unlimited haste item, because you have to go through some motions to make it work: refill it, get it out, risk stun, drink it, put it away, etc.
It's very nice and very useful, and in my opinion worth more than prayer. Like I said in the other thread though, test it out thoroughly to make sure it doesn't have any legacy bugs and post all the results and auction it.
By the way, Inspire really has no clue about what items are worth, in spite of his claims to the contrary.
waywardgs
05-21-2010, 08:11 AM
Lol @ x/day = self mana
lawl @ a 5x a day item going for 90m.
Archigeek
05-22-2010, 04:32 PM
Actually 5x a day heroism for 90m is probably about right today. Who the hell knows though? The group of people who want high end things is smaller than it used to be, and a lot of those people already have the high end things they want. On the other hand, there's so much coin floating around, and it's worth so few $'s/million that prices on the items people really do want can go through the roof.
I think if I owned this stein I'd run it through the paces of various spells with the help of someone who's been playing more recently than you have and might be able to help you spot any legacy problems. Then post logs and auction it. Up to you though. Good luck.
Danical
05-22-2010, 04:42 PM
Definitely find all the other spells this casts.
kookiegod
05-22-2010, 05:24 PM
Your stein is effectively worth as much as a gem eater, except that what you charge it with is much much easier to find. If it works with wands as someone asked, it's worth even more, because then pretty much anyone can use it in the field. It isn't however anything close to an effective unlimited haste item, because you have to go through some motions to make it work: refill it, get it out, risk stun, drink it, put it away, etc.
It's very nice and very useful, and in my opinion worth a more than prayer. Like I said in the other thread though, test it out thoroughly to make sure it doesn't have any legacy bugs and post all the results and auction it.
.
This...
I been pondering it for a few days, and its awesome....
But its not the pitslasher. As a haste item for 60 seconds, even with 20 charges, more work to charge, get out, etc, than its worth. Its not hard to get 100 wiregrass bracelets and imbed them with 8 charges or so in a few hour script sesssion.
As a heroism, it rocks. Again, as Kerl said, its like a gem eater, you got to work to get water, get it charged, etc., and I am fairly sure on the value.
Having said it, and fair being fair, I will match the bid for a self mana prayer item (wearable too) AND add 10m in coins, or you can pick thru the list of stuff I posted for sale and work out a deal.
Ardwen
05-22-2010, 08:55 PM
Heroism is about the best spell out there value wise, its useful to every single person that does anything except people that only pick locks or hang in courtyards, Of all the items I've owned or had a chance to buy not getting the 5x heroism is about my largest regret and thats saying alot when you think about it, I brokered the deal that got the Pitslasher to Blades, didnt bat an eyelash moving the weapon and dont regret it at all.
Nieninque
06-07-2010, 12:22 PM
I apologise to all the people who knew the original Tycine for the behaviour this tard is subjecting her to.
Apparently selling characters is bad.
phantasm
06-07-2010, 02:06 PM
I don't think Tycine will mind, unless she understands chineese.
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